Epsom salt baths

[Guest guest]

> i started epsom salt baths with my son today any one know what i

> should expect??? thank you neva

I would look for 2 different things:

1. he gets irritatable, fussed up and crabby - indicates detoxing

reaction at an excessive level. Keep doing the baths regularly, maybe

a little less salts so the reaction isn't so difficult, and it should

pass.

2. he gets calmer, more relaxed, more focused - indicates the effect

of processing the phenols/toxics at a good level. Can give baths as

needed.

That is my interpretation. When I have the boys do the foot bath,

they get more relaxed. The tenseness goes away.

.

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-karen thanks for the help neva

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>I have read several different places that the use of

>Epsom Salt Baths has at times produced excellent

>results. I am wondering how often the baths are given

>and how " strong " do you make them? I bought a box at

>the drug store and the directions say '2 cups per

>gallon of water'.

>We have 4 1/2 year old triplet boys, 2 of which are

>autistic, who still take a bath all at the same

>time...so the tub is very large and full to the top.

>I am nervous about making it too strong in the event

>someone drinks it, but want it to be strong enough to

>be able to tell if it helps or not!

>Any insight would be appreciated!

>Thanks

>Pat (Mom to Jon, Josh & Jake)

caveat: personal experience only, and from an adult,

NOT kids:

I thought epsom salt did nothing for me from a number

of tries. Come to find out I was not using enough!

When I used the whole boxfull I felt GREAT the next

morning--- it took that much to notice an effect!

I am now doing experiments with making creme (not too

good so far) and also using the creme that Kirkman's

sells. Dana has directions for how to make it yourself

on her website, I believe, in case you are interested:

http://www.autismchannel.net/dana/

best of luck with the experiments!

Moria

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> I have read several different places that the use of

> Epsom Salt Baths has at times produced excellent

> results. I am wondering how often the baths are given

> and how " strong " do you make them? I bought a box at

> the drug store and the directions say '2 cups per

> gallon of water'.

> We have 4 1/2 year old triplet boys, 2 of which are

> autistic, who still take a bath all at the same

> time...so the tub is very large and full to the top.

> I am nervous about making it too strong in the event

> someone drinks it, but want it to be strong enough to

> be able to tell if it helps or not!

> Any insight would be appreciated!

one box per tub full.

It is a laxative if drunk, but nothing worse happens.

Andy . . . .. . . .

> Thanks

> Pat (Mom to Jon, Josh & Jake)

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[Guest guest]

epsom salt baths help my daughter sooo much, her mood is better into the

next day! They HELP! do it!

Jean

[Guest guest]

Most people use two cups per bathtub. My son reacted at first to the

baths with aggression the next mornings, so I dropped way back--to a

teaspoon to a tub of water, and worked up until I found the amount

that he can tolerate. He tolerates around one to one and a half cups.

W

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I personally enjoy and recommend a minimum of about 20 pounds per tub, and

have used up to 800 pounds in a Sensory Deprivation Tank for Detox

(specific Gravity 1.31, to be exact).

I've never had nor have any of my patients ever had any untoward reactions,

only very positive and beneficial results..

Rich

Re: [ ] Epsom Salt Baths

> >I have read several different places that the use of

> >Epsom Salt Baths has at times produced excellent

> >results. I am wondering how often the baths are given

> >and how " strong " do you make them? I bought a box at

> >the drug store and the directions say '2 cups per

> >gallon of water'.

> >We have 4 1/2 year old triplet boys, 2 of which are

> >autistic, who still take a bath all at the same

> >time...so the tub is very large and full to the top.

> >I am nervous about making it too strong in the event

> >someone drinks it, but want it to be strong enough to

> >be able to tell if it helps or not!

> >Any insight would be appreciated!

> >Thanks

> >Pat (Mom to Jon, Josh & Jake)

>

> caveat: personal experience only, and from an adult,

> NOT kids:

>

> I thought epsom salt did nothing for me from a number

> of tries. Come to find out I was not using enough!

> When I used the whole boxfull I felt GREAT the next

> morning--- it took that much to notice an effect!

> I am now doing experiments with making creme (not too

> good so far) and also using the creme that Kirkman's

> sells. Dana has directions for how to make it yourself

> on her website, I believe, in case you are interested:

> http://www.autismchannel.net/dana/

>

> best of luck with the experiments!

> Moria

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Excuse me my ignorance but what does the Epsom salt bath actually do for the

child? Thanks...

Re: [ ] Re: Epsom Salt Baths

epsom salt baths help my daughter sooo much, her mood is better into the

next day! They HELP! do it!

Jean

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Hi,

I give my daughter Epsom Salt baths occasionally, but if you're not filtering

the bath water I think it would be better

to use the cream, or a simple solution of the salts on the skin. Owens

has said in the past that the topical

application seemed to be more effective than the baths. I'm spraying the

solution on my daughter's legs in the morning

and, if no bath, in the evening. If she starts to melt down, I spray it on her

then too.

I definately would start with a low dose and work up from there as this aids in

detox.

Epsom Salt Solution

Boil 1 cup of pure, filtered water and add 1/4 to 1/2 cup Epsom Salts. Stir to

disolve. Let cool, then pour some into

a pump spray bottle (available at the pharmacy for about $2). Spray on the skin

and rub in. This pump spray solves the

problem of providing a dose while away from home - it travels well.

K.

[Guest guest]

> Excuse me my ignorance but what does the Epsom salt bath actually do for the

child? Thanks...

provides sulfate and magnesium.

I guess you know what magnesium is good for.

Many of our kids are deficient in sulfate, and sulfate is used in the body in

one of the liver

detoxification phases, to rid the body of toxic " stuff " .

That's why some kids calm down after a bath with Epsom salts. The body is

cleaner.

Valentina

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My 4-year-old daughter Jenna has autism. She and her 2 younger sisters

sometimes take a bath together and drink the water too (shocking! According

to family members. Surprise; we have bigger issues). Anyway, sometimes Jen

will have a softer BM right afterwards, not a big deal. I usually use about

2 cups for a half tubful of water That's when Jenna stays in the tub the

longest and it seems to relax her the most. Her bath is the last thing

right before bedtime and she has a lot of problems regulating herself so

that's important to us. But that could be because the water is not gritty

up to that point, or it tastes good up to that point, or who knows what

else. She does like the bath better with the Epson Salts, no question.

Valeri

I have read several different places that the use of

Epsom Salt Baths has at times produced excellent

results. I am wondering how often the baths are given

and how " strong " do you make them? I bought a box at

the drug store and the directions say '2 cups per

gallon of water'.

We have 4 1/2 year old triplet boys, 2 of which are

autistic, who still take a bath all at the same

time...so the tub is very large and full to the top.

I am nervous about making it too strong in the event

someone drinks it, but want it to be strong enough to

be able to tell if it helps or not!

Any insight would be appreciated!

Thanks

Pat (Mom to Jon, Josh & Jake)

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[Guest guest]

Hope you don't mind me asking, but I couldn't get to those links you

posted. So, you just mix a cup in the regular bath? How long do you

leave him in there? And 2x a day is sufficient? Are there any side

effects to watch out for?

Thanks, Traci

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--Hi Traci,

I got the info from a mom Janet at speech diet. She told me to start

at 1 cup in the tub, make sure it dissolves, then increase to up to 2

cups. I was not told of any side effects so I would suggest you post

to speechdiet and ask them. Epsom salts are a natural

product that many people use, it takes the toxins out of the body,

infact from what I hear most people should take a epsom salt bath

once in a while, (sounding a little like pro-efa????) It is great for

the skin and cleared up my other son's skin rash.

They also told me to leave him in for 20 min, not a problem in my

house but I know some children don't like it. I noticed after the

first bath, he was way more mellow. I am actually going to bring the

article I got from speech diet group and bring it to JAck's new prvt.

OT who was interested in it and had never heard of it helping sensory

issues. Hope this helps, again the speech diet group at is

great obviously have great info.

Eileen

- In @y..., " roddyt001 " <roddyt001@h...> wrote:

> Hope you don't mind me asking, but I couldn't get to those links

you

> posted. So, you just mix a cup in the regular bath? How long do you

> leave him in there? And 2x a day is sufficient? Are there any side

> effects to watch out for?

>

> Thanks, Traci

[Guest guest]

Can you wash your child's hair in this? Well, obviously you CAN, but does

the hair come out clean?

Thanks,

Marie

seanzonigal <seanzonigal@...> wrote: Hi All,

I thought since alot of people are interested in the epsom salt baths

that I would just post 1 message instead of individual ones. I

actually got this info from speech diet group which I love because I

get great info from a group of great people.

Basically A Dr. Rosemary Waring found that most autistic spectrum

kids and alot of other children with neurological issues including

Sensory intergration disorder and ADHD/ADD. So I jumped to it because

JAck has sensory.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I don't know as I would not get this stuff near Charlies eyes or

mouth . It WILL cause diareoha if a child drinks it ...

The baths will help sulphation and help your child excrete toxins etc

but you can help too by reducing their intake of additives and

phenols ( highly coloured foods ) .

Charlie has an epsom salt bath once or twice a week . I confess I

tend to keep hair washing to other nights but please choose a good

shampoo ( like Green people in the UK ) with as few chemicals as

possible so you are not adding in the very things you are trying to

clear out of their system . Samre goes for bath shower gels and

bubble baths - usually worth avoiding if you want this treatment to

help .

Regards

Deborah

Marie <psalm_127@y...> wrote:

> Can you wash your child's hair in this? Well, obviously you CAN,

but does

> the hair come out clean?

> Thanks,

> Marie

[Guest guest]

I don't think I would wash their hair in it, just soak their body.

I'm going to pick up some as well, since this is so easy to try and

readily available. I don't even wash my daughter's hair with bath

water either, but use our shower sprayer to wet her hair down,

shampoo, and then use it again to rinse off. I'd probably use the

sprayer to rinse off the excess salt water after she is done with her

bath as well...afterall the shower sprayer is a great sensory tool as

well. :-)

Jill

Hi All,

> I thought since alot of people are interested in the epsom salt

baths

> that I would just post 1 message instead of individual ones. I

> actually got this info from speech diet group which I love because

I

> get great info from a group of great people.

> Basically A Dr. Rosemary Waring found that most autistic spectrum

> kids and alot of other children with neurological issues including

> Sensory intergration disorder and ADHD/ADD. So I jumped to it

because

> JAck has sensory.

[Guest guest]

Hi Marie,

To be honest I don't know but what I do is put the

water on low while washing and rinsing. You can I

assume wash your child's hair in it can't hurt!

Eileen

--- Marie <psalm_127@...> wrote:

> Can you wash your child's hair in this? Well,

> obviously you CAN, but does

> the hair come out clean?

> Thanks,

> Marie

[Guest guest]

You know after giving Jack these baths since friday I haven't noticed

any residue from the salt. What the article says it that some of the

epsom salts left on the skin may continue to be absorbed as long as

it is still on the skin, offering something sort of like a " time

release " into the blood stream, just like medications that are given

through skin patches.

So maybe leaving them on is a good thing unless your child does not

like it or makes them itchy.

Just a thought

Eileen

--- In @y..., " jills2daughters " <Momof2girls@c...>

wrote:

> I don't think I would wash their hair in it, just soak their body.

> I'm going to pick up some as well, since this is so easy to try and

> readily available. I don't even wash my daughter's hair with bath

> water either, but use our shower sprayer to wet her hair down,

> shampoo, and then use it again to rinse off. I'd probably use the

> sprayer to rinse off the excess salt water after she is done with

her

> bath as well...afterall the shower sprayer is a great sensory tool

as

> well. :-)

>

> Jill

[Guest guest]

i've been doing it and it's not been a problem.

m.l

----- Original Message -----

> Can you wash your child's hair in this? Well, obviously you CAN, but does

> the hair come out clean?

> Thanks,

> Marie

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you everyone, who has responded to this. I was just curious on what the

rest of you do. My kiddos are all too old to be drinking their bathwater, so

that shouldn't be an issue e also has had very bad cradle cap since a

couple of months old, and has never really grown out of it. I have found some

natural remedies that are great for getting the crud off her scalp. I am now

wondering if epsom salt might help too? I might give it a try just to see...

Thanks again

Marie

Lynn McClendon <mamapudd@...> wrote: i've been doing it and it's

not been a problem.

m.l

----- Original Message -----

> Can you wash your child's hair in this? Well, obviously you CAN, but does

> the hair come out clean?

> Thanks,

> Marie

>

[Guest guest]

sorry guys off topic again ~ Marie What is good for cradle cap?

Marie <psalm_127@...> wrote: Thank you everyone, who has responded

to this. I was just curious on what the rest of you do. My kiddos are all too

old to be drinking their bathwater, so that shouldn't be an issue e also

has had very bad cradle cap since a couple of months old, and has never really

grown out of it. I have found some natural remedies that are great for getting

the crud off her scalp. I am now wondering if epsom salt might help too? I

might give it a try just to see...

Thanks again

Marie

Lynn McClendon <mamapudd@...> wrote: i've been doing it and it's

not been a problem.

m.l

----- Original Message -----

> Can you wash your child's hair in this? Well, obviously you CAN, but does

> the hair come out clean?

> Thanks,

> Marie

>

[Guest guest]

What results are you seeing over the long run with the salt baths? Guess

I'll give it a whirl since Wiley is tactilly sensitive.

>i've been doing it and it's not been a problem.

>

>m.l

>

>----- Original Message -----

> > Can you wash your child's hair in this? Well, obviously you CAN, but

>does

> > the hair come out clean?

> > Thanks,

> > Marie

[Guest guest]

nothing overly obvious. It's soothing though and been a good sensory time to

get him more used to baths- which he hated while he loves swimming???

my boys love it as well.

i had an odd thing i've wondered about with them. i've been doing them some

too, started out doing them to get austin in the tub daily. anyway, my

deodorant stopped working. ick. then i read about alluminum and how it's in

most deodorants. so i looked and yep mine has it. so i bought a new deo

without it.

so i'm wondering if it was getting rid of the alluminum that was in my

deodorant causing it not to work?

austin has benefitted from everything i've done so far, little subtle

things. carnosine however took away the wonderful sleeping he got from EFAs,

so i took it away. I'm getting better results again from him now. Yesterday

I also tried the extra b vitamins. Huge differences.

Lynn

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> What results are you seeing over the long run with the salt baths? Guess

> I'll give it a whirl since Wiley is tactilly sensitive.

[Guest guest]

My daughter has good results from the Epsom Salt baths. We use 2

cups to the bath. Started with one cup first. It seems to mellow her out,

especially when she phenols are the culprit. You should try it, it really

does relax you.

K

[Guest guest]

>>> Is it ok to use every night? THe baths work wonders for my son

and I use the crem 2 times a day as well...it really helps with his

phenol issues...ginger

I think it is okay to use as long or as much as is tolerated. Both

the sulfate and magnesium leave the body relatively quickly so a

steady supply is good.

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