Re: I give up......

April 26, 2012

Baths did work for my son. It was the only time he didn't scream! :)Sent from my iPad

When my son was a baby and wouldn't stop crying we would walk and walk - one day my husband turned the water on at the kitchen sink and he stopped! Guess he liked the sound of the water! With my oldest daughter I used to sit her on the dryer in an infant seat while the clothes were drying. I know some people who drive their kids around - never tried that one, though.

To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 11:27 AMSubject: Re: I give up......

Does anything comfort him? make him stop screaming? How old is he? My had to be on a pre-digested formula called Nutramiguen....(spelling this wrong, I know)

To: autism-aspergers Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 12:03 PMSubject: Re: I give up......

Yea peyton has been screaming so much he has completely lost his voice. And when I asked the dr about it she said hes just colicy, so idk------------------------------>That sounds like my . I couldn't put him down either. I told my cousin that I wore the front pouch thing to do my chores just so that he was happy. She said she's put him down and let him scream......that is like the theory you hear about food....."if they are hungry enough they'll eat" ummmm.....no, mine will keep screaming and he'll starve too. >> > >>>>________________________________> >To: autism-aspergers >Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 8:20 PM>Subject: Re: I give up......> >> >>>Yeah, I attached a picture of colton when he fell into the table. And he just simply looked at me like what the hell is that table doing there? And walked off. Coltons younger brother will be 3 months old tomorrow and I literally can not put him down fir even a second or hes screaming his head off. Almost like hes in pain its very strange and he has a milk allergy and hes got acid reflux, so he has to sit up all the time.>>------------------------------>>>>I think it may be a matter of not being engaged with our own bodies. I know if I get up in the

morning and it is cold and I dress warmly, if it comes out warm - even if it gets over 30C - I probably won't notice i need to remove any clothes. I have also been known to dress for warm weather and then need reminding (this is why we have mothers and wives ) to put something else on. I don't always notice small things that cause pain. I am just focused on other things. My son is much the same. But when it comes to emotional or mental discomfort - that is another thing! My son cried almost constantly if not being held for the first 10 months of his life. But after that, if he fell over, sometimes he cried, sometimes he didn't. Usually not much at all - nothing like from the distress of not being held. He took years to learn to put out his hands to break his fall, but even when he put his teeth through his lips and there was blood everywhere, it>was more a whimper than a cry. The only time he really cried was if he couldn't see me when it

happened. Once I was there, it was fine.>>>>Strange thing is, if I cut my nails and there is even the slightest 'catch' on anything it drives me mad. My wife has often commented I fuss over my nails worse than any woman. It's just that if they are not smooth, then any contact with anything is like fingernails screeching on a blackboard. Did anyone else have a teacher who did that to get attention? Not sure how I survived a year without getting up and hitting her hard. Maybe because I was only 7 at the time >>>>>>>>>> ï¿½Just piggy-backing on what said- my son with Asperger's has an incredibly high tolerance for pain.ï¿½ He's now 10. If he cried (as a baby, toddler, or even now) we knew it was very bad... usually involving blood or worse.ï¿½ It's bizarre the level of pain he can handle!!ï¿½>> >> >>

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 3:57 PM, sara degeer <bradleysmommy1@... wrote:>> >> ï¿½>> [Attachment(s) <#136e5ee3c4d375be_TopText> from sara degeer>> included below]>> Yes he rocks all the time It took the sores a couple months to>> heal because he would keep rocking. Colton has a very high pain>> tolerance as well just the other day he was sitting in my lap and>> started throwing a fit and did the limp noodle thing and slid out>> of my lap and when his knees hit the floor he kinda lunged forward>> and hit his forehead on the coffee table that is in the videos

and>> didn't even cry. Just looked at me funny and walked away with a>> lump sticking out of his head about a 1/4 of an inch. It was huge>> and he should've cried. Here is a picture of it seconds after it>> happened. He was more upset that I was trying to hold him still to>> take the pic. >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------->> *From:* and > >> *To:* "autism-aspergers >> <mailto:autism-aspergers >">> <autism-aspergers >> <mailto:autism-aspergers >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 24, 2012 3:47 PM>> *Subject:* Re: I give up......>> >> ï¿½>> You mentioned the scars on his back from rocking? When the scars>> are sores does it stop him from rocking? My daughter has what

I>> think is an incredibly high tolerance for pain. When she has>> skinned her knees and does this weird sound thing but won't cry.>> She does freak out at the sight of blood even if it is not her>> own. I think it is all part of the sensory issues.ï¿½>> >> Ella did not speak until after her second birthday, but she did a>> lot of stuff early. When she finally did speak she was very>> articulate (well for a 26 -27 month old) if you or anyone wants to>> look at her videos let me know, I will give you the link.>> >> As for toys Ella has/has theï¿½oppositeï¿½of the Midas Touch, she>> intentionally took apart or broke most of her toys.ï¿½>> ï¿½>> */If guns kill people then pencils cause misspelled words/*>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------->> *From:* sara degeer

> >> *To:* "autism-aspergers >> <mailto:autism-aspergers >">> <autism-aspergers >> <mailto:autism-aspergers >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 24, 2012 1:35 PM>> *Subject:* Re: I give up......>> >> ï¿½>> No Colton doesn't talk. He babbles like a little baby, but no real>> words. He talks to himself almost constantly. And the rocking is>> all day and all night. He has scars from rocking, on his back he>> has like these lesion things from rocking against hard surfaces>> and it wont ever heal cause he continues to do it so often. I have>> been trying to get him to point at stuff since before he was a>> year old. And I wish he played normal with his toys seeing as how>> he has so many of them. I feel like half the time we just waste>> our money on toys because he doesn't play with them instead he>>

just carries them around the house in his hand and/or throws them>> at people.ï¿½>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------->> *From:* Lori Yurtin >> *To:* autism-aspergers >> <mailto:autism-aspergers >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 24, 2012 2:06 PM>> *Subject:* Re:

I give up......>> >> ï¿½>> One more thing. ï¿½He is darling! ï¿½And, although in isolation,>> rocking and spinning can be perfectly normal...if he isn't>> talking...isn't pointing...doesn't play appropiately with most>> toys...doesn't reference....etc, etc...he is on the spectrum.>> ï¿½Please don't doubt yourself. ï¿½If I waited, my son would never>> have learned to talk...NEVER! ï¿½My son also is "gifted" but has>> classic autism. ï¿½And, he is currently mainstreamed in 3rd grade.>> ï¿½I may homeschool him next year, though. ï¿½>> >> >> >> Please BOYCOTT the movie 21 Jump Street! It makes fun of those>> with autism!>> https://www.facebook.com/BoycottMovie21JumpStreetForAutism>> >> >> >> >> > >> Subject: I give up......>> To: "autism-aspergers >> <mailto:autism-aspergers >">> <autism-aspergers >> <mailto:autism-aspergers >>> Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 10:48 AM>> >> ï¿½>> So for the last 7 weeks that Coltons therapist has been coming>> to see him he has only showed up 3 times. He is suppose to>> come once a week for an hour. When he

cancels he texts me>> minutes away from the appt. time. Which I find ridiculous. So>> I called yesterday to have Early Steps try and get me a>> different Therapist. And to have Colton tested for ASD. And to>> get him into a Gifted school. They accept children that have>> anything from developmental delays to Severe Retardation. And>> you can start at 18 months old. Everything went good til>> today. When The old Therapist comes to my house and is like>> well can you tell me why I'm not on your case anymore? And I>> calmly explained to him that I need someone more reliable. He>> mentioned that I should not seek a dx and that I should wait a>> few years if I am told to do so. And then he goes on to talk>> about how everyone at the office is "talking" about "certain>> parents" that only want their child dx so they can

receive>> government benefits. And said that they don't say names cause>> they aren't allowed to but didn't think any of it was about>> me. I in no way shape or form want anything from the>> government only the right kind of care for my child. I am>> extremely hurt by what he said. And Think that you know maybe>> there isn't anything wrong with him. Maybe he's just weird and>> quirky. I can't stop thinking about it. I don't know what to>> do. I am really starting to question if there is anything>> wrong at all. :-/>> >> >> P.S. This is my Son>> Coltonï¿½http://www.youtube.com/user/bradleysmommy1?feature=mhee>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>

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April 26, 2012

Not to much will, no. He is on te same kind of thing bu its called Similac Alimentum. To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 12:27 PM Subject: Re: I give up......

Does anything comfort him? make him stop screaming? How old is he? My had to be on a pre-digested formula called Nutramiguen....(spelling this wrong, I know) To: autism-aspergers Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 12:03 PM Subject: Re:

I give up......

Yea peyton has been screaming so much he has completely lost his voice. And when I asked the dr about it she said hes just colicy, so idk

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>That sounds like my . I couldn't put him down either. I told my cousin that I wore the front pouch thing to do my chores just so that he was happy. She said she's put him down and let him scream......that is like the theory you hear about food....."if they are hungry enough they'll eat" ummmm.....no, mine will keep screaming and he'll starve too.

>

>________________________________

>

>To: autism-aspergers

>Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 8:20 PM

>Subject: Re: I give up......

>

>Yeah, I attached a picture of colton when he fell into the table. And he just simply looked at me like what the hell is that table doing there? And walked off. Coltons younger brother will be 3 months old tomorrow and I literally can not put him down fir even a second or hes screaming his head off. Almost like hes in pain its very strange and he has a milk allergy and hes got acid reflux, so he has to sit up all the time.

>

>------------------------------

>

>>I think it may be a matter of not being engaged with our own bodies. I know if I get up in the morning and it is cold and I dress warmly, if it comes out warm - even if it gets over 30C - I probably won't notice i need to remove any clothes. I have also been known to dress for warm weather and then need reminding (this is why we have mothers and wives ) to put something else on. I don't always notice small things that cause pain. I am just focused on other things. My son is much the same. But when it comes to emotional or mental discomfort - that is another thing! My son cried almost constantly if not being held for the first 10 months of his life. But after that, if he fell over, sometimes he cried, sometimes he didn't. Usually not much at all - nothing like from the distress of not being held. He took years to learn to put out his hands to break his fall, but even when he put his teeth through his lips and there was blood

everywhere, it

>was more a whimper than a cry. The only time he really cried was if he couldn't see me when it happened. Once I was there, it was fine.

>>

>>Strange thing is, if I cut my nails and there is even the slightest 'catch' on anything it drives me mad. My wife has often commented I fuss over my nails worse than any woman. It's just that if they are not smooth, then any contact with anything is like fingernails screeching on a blackboard. Did anyone else have a teacher who did that to get attention? Not sure how I survived a year without getting up and hitting her hard. Maybe because I was only 7 at the time

>>

>> ï¿½Just piggy-backing on what said- my son with Asperger's has an incredibly high tolerance for pain.ï¿½ He's now 10. If he cried (as a baby, toddler, or even now) we knew it was very bad... usually involving blood or worse.ï¿½ It's bizarre the level of pain he can handle!!ï¿½

>>

>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 3:57 PM, sara degeer <bradleysmommy1@... wrote:

>>

>> ï¿½

>> [Attachment(s) <#136e5ee3c4d375be_TopText> from sara degeer

>> included below]

>> Yes he rocks all the time It took the sores a couple months to

>> heal because he would keep rocking. Colton has a very high pain

>> tolerance as well just the other day he was sitting in my lap and

>> started throwing a fit and did the limp noodle thing and slid out

>> of my lap and when his knees hit the floor he kinda lunged forward

>> and hit his forehead on the coffee table that is in the videos and

>> didn't even cry. Just looked at me funny and walked away with a

>> lump sticking out of his head about a 1/4 of an inch. It was huge

>> and he should've cried. Here is a picture of it seconds after it

>> happened. He was more upset that I was trying to hold him still to

>> take the pic.

>>

>> ----------------------------------------------------------

>> *From:* and <alexandriairma@...

>>

>> *To:* "autism-aspergers

>> <mailto:autism-aspergers >"

>> <autism-aspergers

>> <mailto:autism-aspergers >

>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 24, 2012 3:47 PM

>> *Subject:* Re: I give up......

>>

>> ï¿½

>> You mentioned the scars on his back from rocking? When the scars

>> are sores does it stop him from rocking? My daughter has what I

>> think is an incredibly high tolerance for pain. When she has

>> skinned her knees and does this weird sound thing but won't cry.

>> She does freak out at the sight of blood even if it is not her

>> own. I think it is all part of the sensory issues.ï¿½

>>

>> Ella did not speak until after her second birthday, but she did a

>> lot of stuff early. When she finally did speak she was very

>> articulate (well for a 26 -27 month old) if you or anyone wants to

>> look at her videos let me know, I will give you the link.

>>

>> As for toys Ella has/has theï¿½oppositeï¿½of the Midas Touch, she

>> intentionally took apart or broke most of her toys.ï¿½

>> ï¿½

>> */If guns kill people then pencils cause misspelled words/*

>>

>> ----------------------------------------------------------

>> *From:* sara degeer <bradleysmommy1@...

>>

>> *To:* "autism-aspergers

>> <mailto:autism-aspergers >"

>> <autism-aspergers

>> <mailto:autism-aspergers >

>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 24, 2012 1:35 PM

>> *Subject:* Re: I give up......

>>

>> ï¿½

>> No Colton doesn't talk. He babbles like a little baby, but no real

>> words. He talks to himself almost constantly. And the rocking is

>> all day and all night. He has scars from rocking, on his back he

>> has like these lesion things from rocking against hard surfaces

>> and it wont ever heal cause he continues to do it so often. I have

>> been trying to get him to point at stuff since before he was a

>> year old. And I wish he played normal with his toys seeing as how

>> he has so many of them. I feel like half the time we just waste

>> our money on toys because he doesn't play with them instead he

>> just carries them around the house in his hand and/or throws them

>> at people.ï¿½

>>

>> ----------------------------------------------------------

>> *From:* Lori Yurtin <loriyurtin@...

>>

>> *To:* autism-aspergers

>> <mailto:autism-aspergers >

>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 24, 2012 2:06 PM

>> *Subject:* Re: I give up......

>>

>> ï¿½

>> One more thing. ï¿½He is darling! ï¿½And, although in isolation,

>> rocking and spinning can be perfectly normal...if he isn't

>> talking...isn't pointing...doesn't play appropiately with most

>> toys...doesn't reference....etc, etc...he is on the spectrum.

>> ï¿½Please don't doubt yourself. ï¿½If I waited, my son would never

>> have learned to talk...NEVER! ï¿½My son also is "gifted" but has

>> classic autism. ï¿½And, he is currently mainstreamed in 3rd grade.

>> ï¿½I may homeschool him next year, though. ï¿½

>>

>> Please BOYCOTT the movie 21 Jump Street! It makes fun of those

>> with autism!

>> https://www.facebook.com/BoycottMovie21JumpStreetForAutism

>>

>> From: sara degeer <bradleysmommy1@...

>>

>> Subject: I give up......

>> To: "autism-aspergers

>> <mailto:autism-aspergers >"

>> <autism-aspergers

>> <mailto:autism-aspergers >

>> Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 10:48 AM

>>

>> ï¿½

>> So for the last 7 weeks that Coltons therapist has been coming

>> to see him he has only showed up 3 times. He is suppose to

>> come once a week for an hour. When he cancels he texts me

>> minutes away from the appt. time. Which I find ridiculous. So

>> I called yesterday to have Early Steps try and get me a

>> different Therapist. And to have Colton tested for ASD. And to

>> get him into a Gifted school. They accept children that have

>> anything from developmental delays to Severe Retardation. And

>> you can start at 18 months old. Everything went good til

>> today. When The old Therapist comes to my house and is like

>> well can you tell me why I'm not on your case anymore? And I

>> calmly explained to him that I need someone more reliable. He

>> mentioned that I should not seek a dx and that I should wait a

>> few years if I am told to do so. And then he goes on to talk

>> about how everyone at the office is "talking" about "certain

>> parents" that only want their child dx so they can receive

>> government benefits. And said that they don't say names cause

>> they aren't allowed to but didn't think any of it was about

>> me. I in no way shape or form want anything from the

>> government only the right kind of care for my child. I am

>> extremely hurt by what he said. And Think that you know maybe

>> there isn't anything wrong with him. Maybe he's just weird and

>> quirky. I can't stop thinking about it. I don't know what to

>> do. I am really starting to question if there is anything

>> wrong at all. :-/

>>

>> P.S. This is my Son

>> Coltonï¿½http://www.youtube.com/user/bradleysmommy1?feature=mhee

>>

>> No virus found in this message.

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>

April 26, 2012

Yeah it really does suck. I wish I had a bigger family. I have no cousins or anything. To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 12:29 PM Subject: Re: I give up......

I have felt the same way. My mom says go back to school....so and so did it....and I'll say yeah, but her Mother lived with her and watched her son when she wasn't home. Who is going to live with me? Yeah, respectfully, shut up Mom! I don't have any help!! To: autism-aspergers Sent: Wednesday,

April 25, 2012 11:55 AM Subject: Re: I give up......

I wish it was that easy for me I have my husband but he works all the time. And my mom works full time and then when she gets home takes care of my sisters kids while she works. And that is pretty much the extent of my family. And no real friends that would help. and I have noticed that a lot people find it hard to beleive that someone could have absolutely no one to rely on, but I am one of those people.

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>Wow, that is hard. It really sounds like you might have postpartum

>depression going on...or just your bipolar rearing it's ugly head. You

>probably need to get checked and maybe talk to someone. You have to take

>care of yourself so that you can take care of the kids. Have you tried a

>sling to help with carrying the baby around. They are wonderful and easy and

>comfortable. Do you have help (daddy, grandparents, aunts/uncles, friend..

>)? Try to arrange someone to come and hold the baby while you play with your

>son or get a nap. Have you tried a swing for the baby. If it is the movement

>that he likes then maybe a swing or bouncy chair would help. You could look

>at getting a 'mother's helper' ... a preteen or early teen that can gain

>babysitting experience and help you out some. You usually don't have to pay

>them as much. Sleep when the baby sleeps, if possible.

>

>Good luck and don't give up. 'and this too shall pass!'

>

>ï»¿ ï»¿

>Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you;

>Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.

>One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.

>-- I give up......

>> >

>> > So for the last 7 weeks that Coltons therapist has been coming to see

>him he has only showed up 3 times. He is suppose to come once a week for an

>hour. When he cancels he texts me minutes away from the appt. time. Which I

>find ridiculous. So I called yesterday to have Early Steps try and get me a

>different Therapist. And to have Colton tested for ASD. And to get him into

>a Gifted school. They accept children that have anything from developmental

>delays to Severe Retardation. And you can start at 18 months old. Everything

>went good til today. When The old Therapist comes to my house and is like

>well can you tell me why I'm not on your case anymore? And I calmly

>explained to him that I need someone more reliable. He mentioned that I

>should not seek a dx and that I should wait a few years if I am told to do

>so. And then he goes on to talk about how everyone at the office is "talking

> about "certain parents" that only want their child dx so they can

>> receive government benefits. And said that they don't say names cause

>they aren't allowed to but didn't think any of it was about me. I in no way

>shape or form want anything from the government only the right kind of care

>for my child. I am extremely hurt by what he said. And Think that you know

>maybe there isn't anything wrong with him. Maybe he's just weird and quirky.

>I can't stop thinking about it. I don't know what to do. I am really

>starting to question if there is anything wrong at all. :-/

>> >

>> > P.S. This is my Son Colton http://www.youtube

>com/user/bradleysmommy1?feature=mhee

>> >

>>

>

April 26, 2012

Colton is so little he is only 21 pounds and he is 20 months. The people at WIC told me he needs to be on an all fat diet and I need to add a tablespoon of butter to all of his food to make him gain weight. YEAH RIGHT!!!! I will never do such a thing. Maybe this is just who he is and how he is suppose to be. Before I got pregnant I was 98 lbs. and 5 foot. Those people are crazy. To:

"autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 3:46 PM Subject: Re: I give up......

That is so awesome! I want to homeschool next year!My son was 30lbs at 10 months! No way could I carry him! Lol!Sent from my iPhone

My son is on the spectrum. I believe in attachment parenting & my son too cried often as a baby if he was t held. I carried him on me for the first year of his life! He was then ready to do his own thing. If he cried I always rushed to his side to help him. It wasn't enabling him but more of showing him I was there. My son is 6 now & when he's hurt he will hop around saying ouch but generally no tears at all. Only reason he ever cries is if he is interrupted when speaking. I feel that with autistic children the parents are tired & trying to 'fix' their child. I have embraced that my son is not typical but when I treat him with respect & really take the time to learn how he is feeling then we go without any issues! My son was in traditional kindergarten & each day he flipped further into himself. I pulled him out. We unschool & homeschool & My sin is more typical than ever!!!Bless,Breanna

Schultz

Mine was happy as long as he was held. He didn't cry when I held him! To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Cc: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 11:17 AM

Subject: Re: I give up......

My Chase was like that and he screamed even if I held him. Plus, he is a twin. I had no choice but to let him scream on many occasions. :(Sent from my iPhone

That sounds like my . I couldn't put him down either. I told my cousin that I wore the front pouch thing to do my chores just so that he was happy. She said she's put him down and let him scream......that is like the theory you hear about food....."if they are hungry enough they'll eat" ummmm.....no, mine will keep screaming and he'll starve too. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 8:20 PM Subject: Re: I give up......

Yeah, I attached a picture of colton when he fell into the table. And he just simply looked at me like what the hell is that table doing there? And walked off. Coltons younger brother will be 3 months old tomorrow and I literally can not put him down fir even a second or hes screaming his head off. Almost like hes in pain its very strange and he has a milk allergy and hes got acid reflux, so he has to sit up all the time.

------------------------------

>I think it may be a matter of not being engaged with our own bodies. I know if I get up in the morning and it is cold and I dress warmly, if it comes out warm - even if it gets over 30C - I probably won't notice i need to remove any clothes. I have also been known to dress for warm weather and then need reminding (this is why we have mothers and wives ) to put something else on. I don't always notice small things that cause pain. I am just focused on other things. My son is much the same. But when it comes to emotional or mental discomfort - that is another thing! My son cried almost constantly if not being held for the first 10 months of his life. But after that, if he fell over, sometimes he cried, sometimes he didn't. Usually not much at all - nothing like from the distress of not being held. He took years to learn to put out his hands to break his fall, but even when he put his teeth through his lips and there was blood everywhere,

it

was more a whimper than a cry. The only time he really cried was if he couldn't see me when it happened. Once I was there, it was fine.

>

>Strange thing is, if I cut my nails and there is even the slightest 'catch' on anything it drives me mad. My wife has often commented I fuss over my nails worse than any woman. It's just that if they are not smooth, then any contact with anything is like fingernails screeching on a blackboard. Did anyone else have a teacher who did that to get attention? Not sure how I survived a year without getting up and hitting her hard. Maybe because I was only 7 at the time