Re: Jen OT: Quaker Schools

[Guest guest]

i knw what that's like jordon and i can spend alot of time arguing if he hears something then it most be true and sometimes w his issues (and theres alot just ask if u want to know i'll share if someone wants to know trying not ramble) it is impossible to convince him otherwise. so his teachers have to be real specific about assignments and homework or it doesn't get done. here are a couple for instance's:

* one of his cartoons said if u get wat in ur ear it gets on ur brain and u forget stuff and so he would yell at me when i got water in his ears when washing his hair.

*he heard his teacher say that cows were brown, (true) she did say they could be white and black also so when we passed a field full of white and black cows and i said look at all the cows let count them he agrued very adametly that they were not cows they were brown.

so i know the not being able to teach ur kid feeling. the hours we spend daily working are in work books and flash cards where he knows i have the answers somewhere to prove ME wrong when fit.

Trisha

From: "nancydewolf@..." <nancydewolf@...> Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 9:02:49 PMSubject: Re: Jen OT: Quaker Schools

I considered home schooling but realized early on that my son and I, especially, do not do well together on things like this. I don't think my daughter and I do either. I take to an amazing tutor who is a retired teacher from our school and she even takes her son to a tutor because she can't teach him. She made me feel so much better when she told me that. The parent-child dynamics make it much more challenging. I applaud anyone who can successfully manage that dynamic and help their child excel. I am so thankful that, so far at least, we've had excellent school experiences with all the staff and so far, he's truly been in the best place for his needs. I'm looking forward to starting middle school with him next month, I hope it goes as well as elementary school did!

Re: Jen OT: Quaker Schools

I'm not a Mom yet, but should that day come (fingers crossed, I hope to home school. I'm not quite sure how I would do it, as I'm also the bread-winner for our "family". However, in the minimum I would tutor for several hours a day as my mother did with me. I was blessed to have received a wonderful education that was complimented by my Mother's tutelage. Parents these days have gotten lazy, school administrators have gotten lazy and thus kids have gotten lazy. I can't tell you how it irks me so to see people type online like they are texting with an old school phone. I think challenging a child's mind and daring them to excel is more important than socialization at school. There are so many other activities where kids can socialize ie. soccer, martial arts, community theater.I could go on a tirade about community involvement in schools, but I best not ;-) Plus, I'm still on a lot of pain killers!a>

> > I have a different take on this. I personally feel that there are enough opportunities in life for kids and adults to experience bad behavior from others. There are ENDLESS opportunites for that. No shortage. If you can provide a healthier environment for your children while in their formative years, they'll be fine when they're older. They'll be able to cope with crappy people just fine if they grow up healthy and sane.>

[Guest guest]

i knw what that's like jordon and i can spend alot of time arguing if he hears something then it most be true and sometimes w his issues (and theres alot just ask if u want to know i'll share if someone wants to know trying not ramble) it is impossible to convince him otherwise. so his teachers have to be real specific about assignments and homework or it doesn't get done. here are a couple for instance's:

* one of his cartoons said if u get wat in ur ear it gets on ur brain and u forget stuff and so he would yell at me when i got water in his ears when washing his hair.

*he heard his teacher say that cows were brown, (true) she did say they could be white and black also so when we passed a field full of white and black cows and i said look at all the cows let count them he agrued very adametly that they were not cows they were brown.

so i know the not being able to teach ur kid feeling. the hours we spend daily working are in work books and flash cards where he knows i have the answers somewhere to prove ME wrong when fit.

Trisha

From: "nancydewolf@..." <nancydewolf@...> Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 9:02:49 PMSubject: Re: Jen OT: Quaker Schools

I considered home schooling but realized early on that my son and I, especially, do not do well together on things like this. I don't think my daughter and I do either. I take to an amazing tutor who is a retired teacher from our school and she even takes her son to a tutor because she can't teach him. She made me feel so much better when she told me that. The parent-child dynamics make it much more challenging. I applaud anyone who can successfully manage that dynamic and help their child excel. I am so thankful that, so far at least, we've had excellent school experiences with all the staff and so far, he's truly been in the best place for his needs. I'm looking forward to starting middle school with him next month, I hope it goes as well as elementary school did!

Re: Jen OT: Quaker Schools

I'm not a Mom yet, but should that day come (fingers crossed, I hope to home school. I'm not quite sure how I would do it, as I'm also the bread-winner for our "family". However, in the minimum I would tutor for several hours a day as my mother did with me. I was blessed to have received a wonderful education that was complimented by my Mother's tutelage. Parents these days have gotten lazy, school administrators have gotten lazy and thus kids have gotten lazy. I can't tell you how it irks me so to see people type online like they are texting with an old school phone. I think challenging a child's mind and daring them to excel is more important than socialization at school. There are so many other activities where kids can socialize ie. soccer, martial arts, community theater.I could go on a tirade about community involvement in schools, but I best not ;-) Plus, I'm still on a lot of pain killers!a>

> > I have a different take on this. I personally feel that there are enough opportunities in life for kids and adults to experience bad behavior from others. There are ENDLESS opportunites for that. No shortage. If you can provide a healthier environment for your children while in their formative years, they'll be fine when they're older. They'll be able to cope with crappy people just fine if they grow up healthy and sane.>

[Guest guest]

i knw what that's like jordon and i can spend alot of time arguing if he hears something then it most be true and sometimes w his issues (and theres alot just ask if u want to know i'll share if someone wants to know trying not ramble) it is impossible to convince him otherwise. so his teachers have to be real specific about assignments and homework or it doesn't get done. here are a couple for instance's:

* one of his cartoons said if u get wat in ur ear it gets on ur brain and u forget stuff and so he would yell at me when i got water in his ears when washing his hair.

*he heard his teacher say that cows were brown, (true) she did say they could be white and black also so when we passed a field full of white and black cows and i said look at all the cows let count them he agrued very adametly that they were not cows they were brown.

so i know the not being able to teach ur kid feeling. the hours we spend daily working are in work books and flash cards where he knows i have the answers somewhere to prove ME wrong when fit.

Trisha

From: "nancydewolf@..." <nancydewolf@...> Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 9:02:49 PMSubject: Re: Jen OT: Quaker Schools

I considered home schooling but realized early on that my son and I, especially, do not do well together on things like this. I don't think my daughter and I do either. I take to an amazing tutor who is a retired teacher from our school and she even takes her son to a tutor because she can't teach him. She made me feel so much better when she told me that. The parent-child dynamics make it much more challenging. I applaud anyone who can successfully manage that dynamic and help their child excel. I am so thankful that, so far at least, we've had excellent school experiences with all the staff and so far, he's truly been in the best place for his needs. I'm looking forward to starting middle school with him next month, I hope it goes as well as elementary school did!

Re: Jen OT: Quaker Schools

I'm not a Mom yet, but should that day come (fingers crossed, I hope to home school. I'm not quite sure how I would do it, as I'm also the bread-winner for our "family". However, in the minimum I would tutor for several hours a day as my mother did with me. I was blessed to have received a wonderful education that was complimented by my Mother's tutelage. Parents these days have gotten lazy, school administrators have gotten lazy and thus kids have gotten lazy. I can't tell you how it irks me so to see people type online like they are texting with an old school phone. I think challenging a child's mind and daring them to excel is more important than socialization at school. There are so many other activities where kids can socialize ie. soccer, martial arts, community theater.I could go on a tirade about community involvement in schools, but I best not ;-) Plus, I'm still on a lot of pain killers!a>

> > I have a different take on this. I personally feel that there are enough opportunities in life for kids and adults to experience bad behavior from others. There are ENDLESS opportunites for that. No shortage. If you can provide a healthier environment for your children while in their formative years, they'll be fine when they're older. They'll be able to cope with crappy people just fine if they grow up healthy and sane.>

[Guest guest]

a, we homeschooled through a public charter school. My kid had to report to a teacher weekly or biweekly. I felt comfortable helping him with everything through high school except for the pre-calculus. I can do college level algebra, geometry, and statistics, but never did calculus. Thankfully, that's what his teacher was for.  You need patience, love and passion. Your child teaches you how to teach if you possess those qualities.

On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:37 PM, a Frey <paulajfrey@...> wrote:

I do worry about my teaching abilities. I don't want to be like some moms I know (who shall not be named). They tended to tell their kids they were stupid when they didn't get something right on the first try. A-hem! I aspire to be like my own mother who made me hungry for books and look forward to math time (there were M & Ms involved in my multiplication tables).

Just as a private school may not be better in one area than a public, you have to analyze each child, each situation - each time. No one size fits all. I'll see when I get there.

We are as a country falling behind in the area of education which is sad. But a good portion of that responsibility lies with the parents who assume that kids learn everything they should at school and don't compliment the school curriculum with studies at home. A parent who values knowledge is the best role model. Its nice to see so many folks on this board passionate about it. ;-)

a

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>   > I have a different take on this. I personally feel that there are enough opportunities in life for kids and adults to experience bad behavior from others. There are ENDLESS opportunites for that. No shortage. If you can provide a healthier environment for your children while in their formative years, they'll be fine when they're older. They'll be able to cope with crappy people just fine if they grow up healthy and sane.

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[Guest guest]

a, we homeschooled through a public charter school. My kid had to report to a teacher weekly or biweekly. I felt comfortable helping him with everything through high school except for the pre-calculus. I can do college level algebra, geometry, and statistics, but never did calculus. Thankfully, that's what his teacher was for.  You need patience, love and passion. Your child teaches you how to teach if you possess those qualities.

On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:37 PM, a Frey <paulajfrey@...> wrote:

I do worry about my teaching abilities. I don't want to be like some moms I know (who shall not be named). They tended to tell their kids they were stupid when they didn't get something right on the first try. A-hem! I aspire to be like my own mother who made me hungry for books and look forward to math time (there were M & Ms involved in my multiplication tables).

Just as a private school may not be better in one area than a public, you have to analyze each child, each situation - each time. No one size fits all. I'll see when I get there.

We are as a country falling behind in the area of education which is sad. But a good portion of that responsibility lies with the parents who assume that kids learn everything they should at school and don't compliment the school curriculum with studies at home. A parent who values knowledge is the best role model. Its nice to see so many folks on this board passionate about it. ;-)

a

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>   >

>   > I have a different take on this. I personally feel that there are enough opportunities in life for kids and adults to experience bad behavior from others. There are ENDLESS opportunites for that. No shortage. If you can provide a healthier environment for your children while in their formative years, they'll be fine when they're older. They'll be able to cope with crappy people just fine if they grow up healthy and sane.

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>

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[Guest guest]

a, we homeschooled through a public charter school. My kid had to report to a teacher weekly or biweekly. I felt comfortable helping him with everything through high school except for the pre-calculus. I can do college level algebra, geometry, and statistics, but never did calculus. Thankfully, that's what his teacher was for.  You need patience, love and passion. Your child teaches you how to teach if you possess those qualities.

On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:37 PM, a Frey <paulajfrey@...> wrote:

I do worry about my teaching abilities. I don't want to be like some moms I know (who shall not be named). They tended to tell their kids they were stupid when they didn't get something right on the first try. A-hem! I aspire to be like my own mother who made me hungry for books and look forward to math time (there were M & Ms involved in my multiplication tables).

Just as a private school may not be better in one area than a public, you have to analyze each child, each situation - each time. No one size fits all. I'll see when I get there.

We are as a country falling behind in the area of education which is sad. But a good portion of that responsibility lies with the parents who assume that kids learn everything they should at school and don't compliment the school curriculum with studies at home. A parent who values knowledge is the best role model. Its nice to see so many folks on this board passionate about it. ;-)

a

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>   > I have a different take on this. I personally feel that there are enough opportunities in life for kids and adults to experience bad behavior from others. There are ENDLESS opportunites for that. No shortage. If you can provide a healthier environment for your children while in their formative years, they'll be fine when they're older. They'll be able to cope with crappy people just fine if they grow up healthy and sane.

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[Guest guest]

You are absolutely right Trisha. Not every parent has hours to spend with their

educating their child. Its a sad fact that bills have to be paid first. And

believe me, I know that! I was more referencing the people who can spend time

with their kids, but just don't. The self-centered parent, which you are

obviously not ;-)My Mom did work full time and manage a farm, but I'm sure her

schedule would be considered light by many women today.

We all have to try our best and do our best for our kids. When we are

challenged, maybe the best lesson is to show our kids how we can rise above the

challenges life gives us..

I really initially chimed into this conversation, because the issue has been

weighing heavily on my mind as of late. Terry and I, if we are to have kids will

have to have them soon. (I turn 34 next week) Terry has severe learning

disabilities and just isn't book orientated, but he would likely be the primary

caregiver as I work 60 plus hours a week at time. So we're trying to sound out

what will work best for our family. The public schools in our area are

lackluster at best. I work for a non-profit so private school is out of the

question. Obviously we have some important decisions to make over the next few

years. Grrrr

As for your comments about money and socialization. We are in the same boat for

the most part.There are a number of community programs in SOME areas that allow

kids to participate for no fees if the parents are low income. I took part in

those when I was little. I WISH they were more common, but they tend to be up to

the generosity of individual donors. Some areas are so hard hit, well there are

no donors now.

The hall etiquette at your schools seems extremely severe. Have to agree with

that!

a

> >

> >

> > I have a different take on this. I personally feel that there are enough

opportunities in life for kids and adults to experience bad behavior from

others. There are ENDLESS opportunites for that. No shortage. If you can provide

a healthier environment for your children while in their formative years,

they'll be fine when they're older. They'll be able to cope with crappy people

just fine if they grow up healthy and sane.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You are absolutely right Trisha. Not every parent has hours to spend with their

educating their child. Its a sad fact that bills have to be paid first. And

believe me, I know that! I was more referencing the people who can spend time

with their kids, but just don't. The self-centered parent, which you are

obviously not ;-)My Mom did work full time and manage a farm, but I'm sure her

schedule would be considered light by many women today.

We all have to try our best and do our best for our kids. When we are

challenged, maybe the best lesson is to show our kids how we can rise above the

challenges life gives us..

I really initially chimed into this conversation, because the issue has been

weighing heavily on my mind as of late. Terry and I, if we are to have kids will

have to have them soon. (I turn 34 next week) Terry has severe learning

disabilities and just isn't book orientated, but he would likely be the primary

caregiver as I work 60 plus hours a week at time. So we're trying to sound out

what will work best for our family. The public schools in our area are

lackluster at best. I work for a non-profit so private school is out of the

question. Obviously we have some important decisions to make over the next few

years. Grrrr

As for your comments about money and socialization. We are in the same boat for

the most part.There are a number of community programs in SOME areas that allow

kids to participate for no fees if the parents are low income. I took part in

those when I was little. I WISH they were more common, but they tend to be up to

the generosity of individual donors. Some areas are so hard hit, well there are

no donors now.

The hall etiquette at your schools seems extremely severe. Have to agree with

that!

a

> >

> >

> > I have a different take on this. I personally feel that there are enough

opportunities in life for kids and adults to experience bad behavior from

others. There are ENDLESS opportunites for that. No shortage. If you can provide

a healthier environment for your children while in their formative years,

they'll be fine when they're older. They'll be able to cope with crappy people

just fine if they grow up healthy and sane.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You are absolutely right Trisha. Not every parent has hours to spend with their

educating their child. Its a sad fact that bills have to be paid first. And

believe me, I know that! I was more referencing the people who can spend time

with their kids, but just don't. The self-centered parent, which you are

obviously not ;-)My Mom did work full time and manage a farm, but I'm sure her

schedule would be considered light by many women today.

We all have to try our best and do our best for our kids. When we are

challenged, maybe the best lesson is to show our kids how we can rise above the

challenges life gives us..

I really initially chimed into this conversation, because the issue has been

weighing heavily on my mind as of late. Terry and I, if we are to have kids will

have to have them soon. (I turn 34 next week) Terry has severe learning

disabilities and just isn't book orientated, but he would likely be the primary

caregiver as I work 60 plus hours a week at time. So we're trying to sound out

what will work best for our family. The public schools in our area are

lackluster at best. I work for a non-profit so private school is out of the

question. Obviously we have some important decisions to make over the next few

years. Grrrr

As for your comments about money and socialization. We are in the same boat for

the most part.There are a number of community programs in SOME areas that allow

kids to participate for no fees if the parents are low income. I took part in

those when I was little. I WISH they were more common, but they tend to be up to

the generosity of individual donors. Some areas are so hard hit, well there are

no donors now.

The hall etiquette at your schools seems extremely severe. Have to agree with

that!

a

> >

> >

> > I have a different take on this. I personally feel that there are enough

opportunities in life for kids and adults to experience bad behavior from

others. There are ENDLESS opportunites for that. No shortage. If you can provide

a healthier environment for your children while in their formative years,

they'll be fine when they're older. They'll be able to cope with crappy people

just fine if they grow up healthy and sane.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Tricia, I do think you're taking this too hard. I think it has been an interesting discussion.On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Trisha Brandt <wilbty1@...> wrote:

paula wrote:

" I'm not a Mom yet, but should that day come (fingers crossed, I hope to home school. I'm not quite sure how I would do it, as I'm also the bread-winner for our " family " . However, in the minimum I would tutor for several hours a day as my mother did with me. I was blessed to have received a wonderful education that was complimented by my Mother's tutelage. "

 

 u are very lucky to have a well educated mom. who could teach u so much. my mom has the education of a 6th grader, and she had to wrk from dawn to after midnight some nights. i raised my brther and sister. so she could do those things for m. and i not saying this to get o poor u's i say it because like nacy has said not all parents can give their children the extra educational help their children need. luckily for my son i am well educated i work in his school i can asssist him and we spend many hours a day even on vacation learning.

 

the government has decided kids could memoreize faster then learn. yep that's the case it's faster this way, if they canmemorize thse fast then we can push them on to the next level and before u know it are kids are doing algrbra in 3rd grade. and yea that is exactly where i see things head, i do not agree with it but in my 5 years with just on district this is what i have learned. the kids in my school start cursive writing in 1st grade, and multiplication in 2nd. constitution studys begin in 3rd, 5th and 6th are doing algebra. everygrade in our school switches for classes even early childhood and care, k-6 all switch for math, science, history, and reading. i COMPLETELY DISAGREE with this but i feel these kids are too young for this but our score have gone up so who am i to complain. back to the point (SO SORRY i do that,)

 

paula wrote:

  " ...to see people type online like they are texting with an old school phone... " sorry i'm slow tonight spend the enitre day walkingthe fair, ugh, and i don't follow what ur saying.

 

paula wrote:

" I think challenging a child's mind and daring them to excel is more important than socialization at school. There are so many other activities where kids can socialize ie. soccer, martial arts, community theater. "

 

in our school it irks me cuz they are like never allowed to talk, in the hallways we use a method call " procedure " . every child in the school even EC and CARE have to walk mouthed closed one hand holding the other behind their back, faces forward, in a STRAIGHT line. if they are carrying things its held in the front close to the chest both hand holding boks and what. if the rule is broken there is NO warning they are gien what ever punishment the teacher uses and depending on how many times the rule is broken.. bodily contact is forbidden. we have no fights, kids smaking e other, tearing things in the halls the teachers display, books and boxes are not knocked out of hand. it has nearly deminished all hallway issues bt they are forced to walk like little soldiers, they are not allowed talk time in class at lunch only 15 minutes at recess 15 mins. would u like to be forbdden to talk but 15 mins a day. this policy is being adopted by many schools,

more then 100 schools from all ove te country have visited our school to se how it works among other policies and pograms we have in place.i have to say i disagree with u there because outr school and others do not allow much socializing. AND i make LESS then 13,000$ a year teaching. that money is for a family of four my husband cannot work b   ut is not elegible for workmans comp or disability or social security. so i do it all there is NO extra money at all none we cannot play sports, we have NEVER been on a vacation, we couldn't evengo camping buecause we couldn't affored 30$ a day camping fees. we went to the fair because my dad got a summer bonus and sent us 100$ totake Jordon to have some fun before school starts. i do not paly for field trips b\c the princial (my boss) knws i cannot afford it and she pays she also has bought his school pictures for us a number of times and not just other

parents too. do u know what it feels like to tell ur child year after year no honey i'mm sorry there will be no new school clothed this year. no honey  u can't play soccer this year either, sorry honey we can't go to the movies i do and it HURTS. so no not all children have oppertunities to socialize, around here they all cost money. 

 

i know it sounds like i am against u all but i not really i am not i love u all u all have been great friends, and maybe i am taking this a little too hard to heart i do that to. i agree with u that in all ur situations and honestly in all of homeschool\private school families i know it seems to be best but it's not b\c the public school is bad or the kids are bullys but b\c there is more learning going on more one on one. i wish i could afford to plae jordon somewhere else but that's not realistic not to mention i have a great support group of teachers that are willing to help any child in our district. my message is it's important to remember public school are public school for a reason 73-87% of the families in a city are on soem kind of state assistance which means our public schools are LOW funded (in fact we lose care and ec next year they had to get a grant to keep it open one more year.) not all public schools are

bad, not all kids brought up in public schools are bad. we can succeed too.

 

i am not mad and i hope no one else is either i amin no ways trying to piss anyone of i am just asking u all to remember that not ALL public school and ps attenders are bad most of us really strive to be the best and succeed. yes there is bad but there is good too.

 Trisha

From: a Frey <paulajfrey@...>

Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 4:52:30 PMSubject: Re: Jen OT: Quaker Schools

 

Parents these days have gotten lazy, school administrators have gotten lazy and thus kids have gotten lazy. I can't tell you how it irks me so. I think challenging a child's mind and daring them to excel is more important than socialization at school. There are so many other activities where kids can socialize ie. soccer, martial arts, community theater.

I could go on a tirade about community involvement in schools, but I best not ;-) Plus, I'm still on a lot of pain killers!a> > > I have a different take on this. I personally feel that there are enough opportunities in life for kids and adults to experience bad behavior from others. There are ENDLESS opportunites for that. No shortage. If you can provide a healthier environment for your children while in their formative years, they'll be fine when they're older. They'll be able to cope with crappy people just fine if they grow up healthy and

sane.>

[Guest guest]

Tricia, I do think you're taking this too hard. I think it has been an interesting discussion.On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Trisha Brandt <wilbty1@...> wrote:

paula wrote:

" I'm not a Mom yet, but should that day come (fingers crossed, I hope to home school. I'm not quite sure how I would do it, as I'm also the bread-winner for our " family " . However, in the minimum I would tutor for several hours a day as my mother did with me. I was blessed to have received a wonderful education that was complimented by my Mother's tutelage. "

 

 u are very lucky to have a well educated mom. who could teach u so much. my mom has the education of a 6th grader, and she had to wrk from dawn to after midnight some nights. i raised my brther and sister. so she could do those things for m. and i not saying this to get o poor u's i say it because like nacy has said not all parents can give their children the extra educational help their children need. luckily for my son i am well educated i work in his school i can asssist him and we spend many hours a day even on vacation learning.

 

the government has decided kids could memoreize faster then learn. yep that's the case it's faster this way, if they canmemorize thse fast then we can push them on to the next level and before u know it are kids are doing algrbra in 3rd grade. and yea that is exactly where i see things head, i do not agree with it but in my 5 years with just on district this is what i have learned. the kids in my school start cursive writing in 1st grade, and multiplication in 2nd. constitution studys begin in 3rd, 5th and 6th are doing algebra. everygrade in our school switches for classes even early childhood and care, k-6 all switch for math, science, history, and reading. i COMPLETELY DISAGREE with this but i feel these kids are too young for this but our score have gone up so who am i to complain. back to the point (SO SORRY i do that,)

 

paula wrote:

  " ...to see people type online like they are texting with an old school phone... " sorry i'm slow tonight spend the enitre day walkingthe fair, ugh, and i don't follow what ur saying.

 

paula wrote:

" I think challenging a child's mind and daring them to excel is more important than socialization at school. There are so many other activities where kids can socialize ie. soccer, martial arts, community theater. "

 

in our school it irks me cuz they are like never allowed to talk, in the hallways we use a method call " procedure " . every child in the school even EC and CARE have to walk mouthed closed one hand holding the other behind their back, faces forward, in a STRAIGHT line. if they are carrying things its held in the front close to the chest both hand holding boks and what. if the rule is broken there is NO warning they are gien what ever punishment the teacher uses and depending on how many times the rule is broken.. bodily contact is forbidden. we have no fights, kids smaking e other, tearing things in the halls the teachers display, books and boxes are not knocked out of hand. it has nearly deminished all hallway issues bt they are forced to walk like little soldiers, they are not allowed talk time in class at lunch only 15 minutes at recess 15 mins. would u like to be forbdden to talk but 15 mins a day. this policy is being adopted by many schools,

more then 100 schools from all ove te country have visited our school to se how it works among other policies and pograms we have in place.i have to say i disagree with u there because outr school and others do not allow much socializing. AND i make LESS then 13,000$ a year teaching. that money is for a family of four my husband cannot work b   ut is not elegible for workmans comp or disability or social security. so i do it all there is NO extra money at all none we cannot play sports, we have NEVER been on a vacation, we couldn't evengo camping buecause we couldn't affored 30$ a day camping fees. we went to the fair because my dad got a summer bonus and sent us 100$ totake Jordon to have some fun before school starts. i do not paly for field trips b\c the princial (my boss) knws i cannot afford it and she pays she also has bought his school pictures for us a number of times and not just other

parents too. do u know what it feels like to tell ur child year after year no honey i'mm sorry there will be no new school clothed this year. no honey  u can't play soccer this year either, sorry honey we can't go to the movies i do and it HURTS. so no not all children have oppertunities to socialize, around here they all cost money. 

 

i know it sounds like i am against u all but i not really i am not i love u all u all have been great friends, and maybe i am taking this a little too hard to heart i do that to. i agree with u that in all ur situations and honestly in all of homeschool\private school families i know it seems to be best but it's not b\c the public school is bad or the kids are bullys but b\c there is more learning going on more one on one. i wish i could afford to plae jordon somewhere else but that's not realistic not to mention i have a great support group of teachers that are willing to help any child in our district. my message is it's important to remember public school are public school for a reason 73-87% of the families in a city are on soem kind of state assistance which means our public schools are LOW funded (in fact we lose care and ec next year they had to get a grant to keep it open one more year.) not all public schools are

bad, not all kids brought up in public schools are bad. we can succeed too.

 

i am not mad and i hope no one else is either i amin no ways trying to piss anyone of i am just asking u all to remember that not ALL public school and ps attenders are bad most of us really strive to be the best and succeed. yes there is bad but there is good too.

 Trisha

From: a Frey <paulajfrey@...>

Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 4:52:30 PMSubject: Re: Jen OT: Quaker Schools

 

Parents these days have gotten lazy, school administrators have gotten lazy and thus kids have gotten lazy. I can't tell you how it irks me so. I think challenging a child's mind and daring them to excel is more important than socialization at school. There are so many other activities where kids can socialize ie. soccer, martial arts, community theater.

I could go on a tirade about community involvement in schools, but I best not ;-) Plus, I'm still on a lot of pain killers!a> > > I have a different take on this. I personally feel that there are enough opportunities in life for kids and adults to experience bad behavior from others. There are ENDLESS opportunites for that. No shortage. If you can provide a healthier environment for your children while in their formative years, they'll be fine when they're older. They'll be able to cope with crappy people just fine if they grow up healthy and

sane.>

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Tricia, I do think you're taking this too hard. I think it has been an interesting discussion.On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Trisha Brandt <wilbty1@...> wrote:

paula wrote:

" I'm not a Mom yet, but should that day come (fingers crossed, I hope to home school. I'm not quite sure how I would do it, as I'm also the bread-winner for our " family " . However, in the minimum I would tutor for several hours a day as my mother did with me. I was blessed to have received a wonderful education that was complimented by my Mother's tutelage. "

 

 u are very lucky to have a well educated mom. who could teach u so much. my mom has the education of a 6th grader, and she had to wrk from dawn to after midnight some nights. i raised my brther and sister. so she could do those things for m. and i not saying this to get o poor u's i say it because like nacy has said not all parents can give their children the extra educational help their children need. luckily for my son i am well educated i work in his school i can asssist him and we spend many hours a day even on vacation learning.

 

the government has decided kids could memoreize faster then learn. yep that's the case it's faster this way, if they canmemorize thse fast then we can push them on to the next level and before u know it are kids are doing algrbra in 3rd grade. and yea that is exactly where i see things head, i do not agree with it but in my 5 years with just on district this is what i have learned. the kids in my school start cursive writing in 1st grade, and multiplication in 2nd. constitution studys begin in 3rd, 5th and 6th are doing algebra. everygrade in our school switches for classes even early childhood and care, k-6 all switch for math, science, history, and reading. i COMPLETELY DISAGREE with this but i feel these kids are too young for this but our score have gone up so who am i to complain. back to the point (SO SORRY i do that,)

 

paula wrote:

  " ...to see people type online like they are texting with an old school phone... " sorry i'm slow tonight spend the enitre day walkingthe fair, ugh, and i don't follow what ur saying.

 

paula wrote:

" I think challenging a child's mind and daring them to excel is more important than socialization at school. There are so many other activities where kids can socialize ie. soccer, martial arts, community theater. "

 

in our school it irks me cuz they are like never allowed to talk, in the hallways we use a method call " procedure " . every child in the school even EC and CARE have to walk mouthed closed one hand holding the other behind their back, faces forward, in a STRAIGHT line. if they are carrying things its held in the front close to the chest both hand holding boks and what. if the rule is broken there is NO warning they are gien what ever punishment the teacher uses and depending on how many times the rule is broken.. bodily contact is forbidden. we have no fights, kids smaking e other, tearing things in the halls the teachers display, books and boxes are not knocked out of hand. it has nearly deminished all hallway issues bt they are forced to walk like little soldiers, they are not allowed talk time in class at lunch only 15 minutes at recess 15 mins. would u like to be forbdden to talk but 15 mins a day. this policy is being adopted by many schools,

more then 100 schools from all ove te country have visited our school to se how it works among other policies and pograms we have in place.i have to say i disagree with u there because outr school and others do not allow much socializing. AND i make LESS then 13,000$ a year teaching. that money is for a family of four my husband cannot work b   ut is not elegible for workmans comp or disability or social security. so i do it all there is NO extra money at all none we cannot play sports, we have NEVER been on a vacation, we couldn't evengo camping buecause we couldn't affored 30$ a day camping fees. we went to the fair because my dad got a summer bonus and sent us 100$ totake Jordon to have some fun before school starts. i do not paly for field trips b\c the princial (my boss) knws i cannot afford it and she pays she also has bought his school pictures for us a number of times and not just other

parents too. do u know what it feels like to tell ur child year after year no honey i'mm sorry there will be no new school clothed this year. no honey  u can't play soccer this year either, sorry honey we can't go to the movies i do and it HURTS. so no not all children have oppertunities to socialize, around here they all cost money. 

 

i know it sounds like i am against u all but i not really i am not i love u all u all have been great friends, and maybe i am taking this a little too hard to heart i do that to. i agree with u that in all ur situations and honestly in all of homeschool\private school families i know it seems to be best but it's not b\c the public school is bad or the kids are bullys but b\c there is more learning going on more one on one. i wish i could afford to plae jordon somewhere else but that's not realistic not to mention i have a great support group of teachers that are willing to help any child in our district. my message is it's important to remember public school are public school for a reason 73-87% of the families in a city are on soem kind of state assistance which means our public schools are LOW funded (in fact we lose care and ec next year they had to get a grant to keep it open one more year.) not all public schools are

bad, not all kids brought up in public schools are bad. we can succeed too.

 

i am not mad and i hope no one else is either i amin no ways trying to piss anyone of i am just asking u all to remember that not ALL public school and ps attenders are bad most of us really strive to be the best and succeed. yes there is bad but there is good too.

 Trisha

From: a Frey <paulajfrey@...>

Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 4:52:30 PMSubject: Re: Jen OT: Quaker Schools

 

Parents these days have gotten lazy, school administrators have gotten lazy and thus kids have gotten lazy. I can't tell you how it irks me so. I think challenging a child's mind and daring them to excel is more important than socialization at school. There are so many other activities where kids can socialize ie. soccer, martial arts, community theater.

I could go on a tirade about community involvement in schools, but I best not ;-) Plus, I'm still on a lot of pain killers!a> > > I have a different take on this. I personally feel that there are enough opportunities in life for kids and adults to experience bad behavior from others. There are ENDLESS opportunites for that. No shortage. If you can provide a healthier environment for your children while in their formative years, they'll be fine when they're older. They'll be able to cope with crappy people just fine if they grow up healthy and

sane.>

[Guest guest]

I think I would have to hire somebody once we reached Algebra.;-) Too teach us

both! I have completely forgotten anything past basic algebra. But it would be

fun to learn it together. Which is in part what I am hoping for - the day we

become fellow students.

I don't even have kids yet. Stupid biological clock!

a

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I have a different take on this. I personally feel that there are

> > enough opportunities in life for kids and adults to experience bad behavior

> > from others. There are ENDLESS opportunites for that. No shortage. If you

> > can provide a healthier environment for your children while in their

> > formative years, they'll be fine when they're older. They'll be able to cope

> > with crappy people just fine if they grow up healthy and sane.

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I think I would have to hire somebody once we reached Algebra.;-) Too teach us

both! I have completely forgotten anything past basic algebra. But it would be

fun to learn it together. Which is in part what I am hoping for - the day we

become fellow students.

I don't even have kids yet. Stupid biological clock!

a

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I have a different take on this. I personally feel that there are

> > enough opportunities in life for kids and adults to experience bad behavior

> > from others. There are ENDLESS opportunites for that. No shortage. If you

> > can provide a healthier environment for your children while in their

> > formative years, they'll be fine when they're older. They'll be able to cope

> > with crappy people just fine if they grow up healthy and sane.

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[Guest guest]

I think I would have to hire somebody once we reached Algebra.;-) Too teach us

both! I have completely forgotten anything past basic algebra. But it would be

fun to learn it together. Which is in part what I am hoping for - the day we

become fellow students.

I don't even have kids yet. Stupid biological clock!

a

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I have a different take on this. I personally feel that there are

> > enough opportunities in life for kids and adults to experience bad behavior

> > from others. There are ENDLESS opportunites for that. No shortage. If you

> > can provide a healthier environment for your children while in their

> > formative years, they'll be fine when they're older. They'll be able to cope

> > with crappy people just fine if they grow up healthy and sane.

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yes paula wrote:

"We are as a country falling behind in the area of education which is sad. But a good portion of that responsibility lies with the parents who assume that kids learn everything they should at school and don't compliment the school curriculum with studies at home. A parent who values knowledge is the best role model. Its nice to see so many folks on this board passionate about it. ;-)"

that is right and u wouldn't believe, as a parent with a generation of friends with kids in school and a teacher, how many times i have heard, "it's the teachers job to teach my johnny, she gets paid for it not me." it sickens me nd i just want to scream but i can't not at work anyway at home with friend i can and i do. it's time for our country to gow up and take responcibilites for them selves in stead of thinking it's someone elses job and we are owed something.

that is why i am going to try and starte a National Night out program n our area. i found this wesie that basically provides everything for this community wide project where families get together in an area and watch ovies, play games, whatever u plan 1 night a week or month what ever is best for the area. ther is a separate program for schools that i have to run past the principal but i'm sure she'll go for it.

trish

From: a Frey <paulajfrey@...> Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 11:37:22 PMSubject: Re: Jen OT: Quaker Schools

I do worry about my teaching abilities. I don't want to be like some moms I know (who shall not be named). They tended to tell their kids they were stupid when they didn't get something right on the first try. A-hem! I aspire to be like my own mother who made me hungry for books and look forward to math time (there were M & Ms involved in my multiplication tables).Just as a private school may not be better in one area than a public, you have to analyze each child, each situation - each time. No one size fits all. I'll see when I get there.We are as a country falling behind in the area of education which is sad. But a good portion of that responsibility lies with the parents who assume that kids learn everything they should at school and don't compliment the school curriculum with studies at home. A parent who values knowledge is the best role model. Its nice to see so many folks on this board passionate about it. ;-)a

> > > > > > I have a different take on this. I personally feel that there are enough opportunities in life for kids and adults to experience bad behavior from others. There are ENDLESS

opportunites for that. No shortage. If you can provide a healthier environment for your children while in their formative years, they'll be fine when they're older. They'll be able to cope with crappy people just fine if they grow up healthy and sane.> >>

[Guest guest]

yes paula wrote:

"We are as a country falling behind in the area of education which is sad. But a good portion of that responsibility lies with the parents who assume that kids learn everything they should at school and don't compliment the school curriculum with studies at home. A parent who values knowledge is the best role model. Its nice to see so many folks on this board passionate about it. ;-)"

that is right and u wouldn't believe, as a parent with a generation of friends with kids in school and a teacher, how many times i have heard, "it's the teachers job to teach my johnny, she gets paid for it not me." it sickens me nd i just want to scream but i can't not at work anyway at home with friend i can and i do. it's time for our country to gow up and take responcibilites for them selves in stead of thinking it's someone elses job and we are owed something.

that is why i am going to try and starte a National Night out program n our area. i found this wesie that basically provides everything for this community wide project where families get together in an area and watch ovies, play games, whatever u plan 1 night a week or month what ever is best for the area. ther is a separate program for schools that i have to run past the principal but i'm sure she'll go for it.

trish

From: a Frey <paulajfrey@...> Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 11:37:22 PMSubject: Re: Jen OT: Quaker Schools

I do worry about my teaching abilities. I don't want to be like some moms I know (who shall not be named). They tended to tell their kids they were stupid when they didn't get something right on the first try. A-hem! I aspire to be like my own mother who made me hungry for books and look forward to math time (there were M & Ms involved in my multiplication tables).Just as a private school may not be better in one area than a public, you have to analyze each child, each situation - each time. No one size fits all. I'll see when I get there.We are as a country falling behind in the area of education which is sad. But a good portion of that responsibility lies with the parents who assume that kids learn everything they should at school and don't compliment the school curriculum with studies at home. A parent who values knowledge is the best role model. Its nice to see so many folks on this board passionate about it. ;-)a

> > > > > > I have a different take on this. I personally feel that there are enough opportunities in life for kids and adults to experience bad behavior from others. There are ENDLESS

opportunites for that. No shortage. If you can provide a healthier environment for your children while in their formative years, they'll be fine when they're older. They'll be able to cope with crappy people just fine if they grow up healthy and sane.> >>

[Guest guest]

yes paula wrote:

"We are as a country falling behind in the area of education which is sad. But a good portion of that responsibility lies with the parents who assume that kids learn everything they should at school and don't compliment the school curriculum with studies at home. A parent who values knowledge is the best role model. Its nice to see so many folks on this board passionate about it. ;-)"

that is right and u wouldn't believe, as a parent with a generation of friends with kids in school and a teacher, how many times i have heard, "it's the teachers job to teach my johnny, she gets paid for it not me." it sickens me nd i just want to scream but i can't not at work anyway at home with friend i can and i do. it's time for our country to gow up and take responcibilites for them selves in stead of thinking it's someone elses job and we are owed something.

that is why i am going to try and starte a National Night out program n our area. i found this wesie that basically provides everything for this community wide project where families get together in an area and watch ovies, play games, whatever u plan 1 night a week or month what ever is best for the area. ther is a separate program for schools that i have to run past the principal but i'm sure she'll go for it.

trish

From: a Frey <paulajfrey@...> Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 11:37:22 PMSubject: Re: Jen OT: Quaker Schools

I do worry about my teaching abilities. I don't want to be like some moms I know (who shall not be named). They tended to tell their kids they were stupid when they didn't get something right on the first try. A-hem! I aspire to be like my own mother who made me hungry for books and look forward to math time (there were M & Ms involved in my multiplication tables).Just as a private school may not be better in one area than a public, you have to analyze each child, each situation - each time. No one size fits all. I'll see when I get there.We are as a country falling behind in the area of education which is sad. But a good portion of that responsibility lies with the parents who assume that kids learn everything they should at school and don't compliment the school curriculum with studies at home. A parent who values knowledge is the best role model. Its nice to see so many folks on this board passionate about it. ;-)a

> > > > > > I have a different take on this. I personally feel that there are enough opportunities in life for kids and adults to experience bad behavior from others. There are ENDLESS

opportunites for that. No shortage. If you can provide a healthier environment for your children while in their formative years, they'll be fine when they're older. They'll be able to cope with crappy people just fine if they grow up healthy and sane.> >>

[Guest guest]

I loved that!! I had to relearn a lot of things! My son and I had such wonderful times with this. When he was in elementary school, I was in college, and he loved my textbooks -- especially the science textbooks. He used to curl up next to me and ask me what was on each page. So cute.

FYI, I had to quit my job to do this. It was a huge financial hit for us. It was really tight with only DH's check. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:20 PM, a Frey <paulajfrey@...> wrote:

I think I would have to hire somebody once we reached Algebra.;-) Too teach us both! I have completely forgotten anything past basic algebra. But it would be fun to learn it together. Which is in part what I am hoping for - the day we become fellow students.

I don't even have kids yet. Stupid biological clock!

a

> > >   >

> > >   >

> > >   > I have a different take on this. I personally feel that there are

> > enough opportunities in life for kids and adults to experience bad behavior

> > from others. There are ENDLESS opportunites for that. No shortage. If you

> > can provide a healthier environment for your children while in their

> > formative years, they'll be fine when they're older. They'll be able to cope

> > with crappy people just fine if they grow up healthy and sane.

> > >   >

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[Guest guest]

I loved that!! I had to relearn a lot of things! My son and I had such wonderful times with this. When he was in elementary school, I was in college, and he loved my textbooks -- especially the science textbooks. He used to curl up next to me and ask me what was on each page. So cute.

FYI, I had to quit my job to do this. It was a huge financial hit for us. It was really tight with only DH's check. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:20 PM, a Frey <paulajfrey@...> wrote:

I think I would have to hire somebody once we reached Algebra.;-) Too teach us both! I have completely forgotten anything past basic algebra. But it would be fun to learn it together. Which is in part what I am hoping for - the day we become fellow students.

I don't even have kids yet. Stupid biological clock!

a

> > >   >

> > >   >

> > >   > I have a different take on this. I personally feel that there are

> > enough opportunities in life for kids and adults to experience bad behavior

> > from others. There are ENDLESS opportunites for that. No shortage. If you

> > can provide a healthier environment for your children while in their

> > formative years, they'll be fine when they're older. They'll be able to cope

> > with crappy people just fine if they grow up healthy and sane.

> > >   >

> > >

> >

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[Guest guest]

I loved that!! I had to relearn a lot of things! My son and I had such wonderful times with this. When he was in elementary school, I was in college, and he loved my textbooks -- especially the science textbooks. He used to curl up next to me and ask me what was on each page. So cute.

FYI, I had to quit my job to do this. It was a huge financial hit for us. It was really tight with only DH's check. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:20 PM, a Frey <paulajfrey@...> wrote:

I think I would have to hire somebody once we reached Algebra.;-) Too teach us both! I have completely forgotten anything past basic algebra. But it would be fun to learn it together. Which is in part what I am hoping for - the day we become fellow students.

I don't even have kids yet. Stupid biological clock!

a

> > >   >

> > >   >

> > >   > I have a different take on this. I personally feel that there are

> > enough opportunities in life for kids and adults to experience bad behavior

> > from others. There are ENDLESS opportunites for that. No shortage. If you

> > can provide a healthier environment for your children while in their

> > formative years, they'll be fine when they're older. They'll be able to cope

> > with crappy people just fine if they grow up healthy and sane.

> > >   >

> > >

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[Guest guest]

my dad was never around, my mom worked and her own ed level ws 6th grade. i didn't get help either. that's what my mom's generation was go wh there wasn't anywork to be done at home and u dropped out as son as possible to get a job (my mom had 5 sisters and 8 brothers) her family needed all the help they could get. luckily i am a driven person i guess i succeeded. Trisha

From: from Michigan <volleyjen0416@...> Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 11:48:23 PMSubject: Re: Jen OT: Quaker Schools

Many times parents either have to work or don't have the educational background to help their children. With the economy now days in a lot of families both parents have to work. I never remember my mom or dad helping me with homework but my mom did take me to (I forget the name of the after school program) to help with my math. They also tested my vocabulary level and I tested very high. Anyway, I'm not a parent so I can only tell you my own experiences. Jen

From: a Frey <paulajfreyhotmail (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Jen OT: Quaker SchoolsDate: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 12:37 AM

I do worry about my teaching abilities. I don't want to be like some moms I know (who shall not be named). They tended to tell their kids they were stupid when they didn't get something right on the first try. A-hem! I aspire to be like my own mother who made me hungry for books and look forward to math time (there were M & Ms involved in my multiplication tables).Just as a private school may not be better in one area than a public, you have to analyze each child, each situation - each time. No one size fits all. I'll see when I get there.We are as a country falling behind in the area of education which is sad. But a good portion of that responsibility lies with the parents who assume that kids learn everything they should at school and don't compliment the school curriculum with studies at home. A parent who values knowledge is the best role model. Its nice to see so many folks on this board passionate about it. ;-)a

> > > > > > I have a different take on this. I personally feel that there are enough opportunities in life for kids and adults to experience bad behavior from others. There are ENDLESS opportunites for that. No shortage. If you can provide a healthier environment for your children while in their formative years, they'll be fine when they're older. They'll be able to cope with crappy people just fine if they grow up healthy and sane.> >>

[Guest guest]

my dad was never around, my mom worked and her own ed level ws 6th grade. i didn't get help either. that's what my mom's generation was go wh there wasn't anywork to be done at home and u dropped out as son as possible to get a job (my mom had 5 sisters and 8 brothers) her family needed all the help they could get. luckily i am a driven person i guess i succeeded. Trisha

From: from Michigan <volleyjen0416@...> Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 11:48:23 PMSubject: Re: Jen OT: Quaker Schools

Many times parents either have to work or don't have the educational background to help their children. With the economy now days in a lot of families both parents have to work. I never remember my mom or dad helping me with homework but my mom did take me to (I forget the name of the after school program) to help with my math. They also tested my vocabulary level and I tested very high. Anyway, I'm not a parent so I can only tell you my own experiences. Jen

From: a Frey <paulajfreyhotmail (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Jen OT: Quaker SchoolsDate: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 12:37 AM

I do worry about my teaching abilities. I don't want to be like some moms I know (who shall not be named). They tended to tell their kids they were stupid when they didn't get something right on the first try. A-hem! I aspire to be like my own mother who made me hungry for books and look forward to math time (there were M & Ms involved in my multiplication tables).Just as a private school may not be better in one area than a public, you have to analyze each child, each situation - each time. No one size fits all. I'll see when I get there.We are as a country falling behind in the area of education which is sad. But a good portion of that responsibility lies with the parents who assume that kids learn everything they should at school and don't compliment the school curriculum with studies at home. A parent who values knowledge is the best role model. Its nice to see so many folks on this board passionate about it. ;-)a

> > > > > > I have a different take on this. I personally feel that there are enough opportunities in life for kids and adults to experience bad behavior from others. There are ENDLESS opportunites for that. No shortage. If you can provide a healthier environment for your children while in their formative years, they'll be fine when they're older. They'll be able to cope with crappy people just fine if they grow up healthy and sane.> >>

[Guest guest]

my dad was never around, my mom worked and her own ed level ws 6th grade. i didn't get help either. that's what my mom's generation was go wh there wasn't anywork to be done at home and u dropped out as son as possible to get a job (my mom had 5 sisters and 8 brothers) her family needed all the help they could get. luckily i am a driven person i guess i succeeded. Trisha

From: from Michigan <volleyjen0416@...> Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 11:48:23 PMSubject: Re: Jen OT: Quaker Schools

Many times parents either have to work or don't have the educational background to help their children. With the economy now days in a lot of families both parents have to work. I never remember my mom or dad helping me with homework but my mom did take me to (I forget the name of the after school program) to help with my math. They also tested my vocabulary level and I tested very high. Anyway, I'm not a parent so I can only tell you my own experiences. Jen

From: a Frey <paulajfreyhotmail (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Jen OT: Quaker SchoolsDate: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 12:37 AM

I do worry about my teaching abilities. I don't want to be like some moms I know (who shall not be named). They tended to tell their kids they were stupid when they didn't get something right on the first try. A-hem! I aspire to be like my own mother who made me hungry for books and look forward to math time (there were M & Ms involved in my multiplication tables).Just as a private school may not be better in one area than a public, you have to analyze each child, each situation - each time. No one size fits all. I'll see when I get there.We are as a country falling behind in the area of education which is sad. But a good portion of that responsibility lies with the parents who assume that kids learn everything they should at school and don't compliment the school curriculum with studies at home. A parent who values knowledge is the best role model. Its nice to see so many folks on this board passionate about it. ;-)a

> > > > > > I have a different take on this. I personally feel that there are enough opportunities in life for kids and adults to experience bad behavior from others. There are ENDLESS opportunites for that. No shortage. If you can provide a healthier environment for your children while in their formative years, they'll be fine when they're older. They'll be able to cope with crappy people just fine if they grow up healthy and sane.> >>

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ya know i was freaking when my step daughter brought it home 2 years ago in 6th, bein my specialty is prek-3 special ed i don't and haven't used it algebra in years. but i discovered with the algrbra an ysubject really that as long as they bri the book home it all comes back to me and we get the work done. i kno u will do it too when the time comes! Trisha

From: a Frey <paulajfrey@...> Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 12:20:45 AMSubject: Re: Jen OT: Quaker Schools

I think I would have to hire somebody once we reached Algebra.;-) Too teach us both! I have completely forgotten anything past basic algebra. But it would be fun to learn it together. Which is in part what I am hoping for - the day we become fellow students.I don't even have kids yet. Stupid biological clock!a> > > >> > > >> > > > I have a different take on this. I personally feel that there are> > enough opportunities in life for kids and adults to experience bad behavior> > from others. There are ENDLESS opportunites for that. No shortage. If you>

> can provide a healthier environment for your children while in their> > formative years, they'll be fine when they're older. They'll be able to cope> > with crappy people just fine if they grow up healthy and sane.> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >> >