Zinc

January 4, 2003

now brand zinc picolinate is the capsule and zinc picolinate and

rice flour only. they don't say what the capsule is, i have been

taking it, it appears to be ok so far.

> Can anyone refer me to a good zinc supplement without any additives

etc.?

>

> Thank you,

> Michele

January 4, 2003

should mention i find the rice fillers fairely indigestible so i tip

the contents out of the capsule into my mouth to mix it with the

starch splitting amylase in silvia

> > Can anyone refer me to a good zinc supplement without any

additives

> etc.?

> >

> > Thank you,

> > Michele

January 4, 2003

If it doesn't specifically say vegicaps then it's gelatin (cow toenails)

SFrom: andrew

[mailto: alevin@...] @...: Sat, 04

Jan 2003 23:08:26 -0000Subject: [ ] Re: Zincnow brand zinc

picolinate is the capsule and zinc picolinate andrice flour only. they don't say

what the capsule is, i have been taking it, it appears to be ok so far.

January 5, 2003

I always open the capsules & mix in liquid with other supps.

Thanks,

Michele

In a message dated 1/4/03 7:32:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,

alevin@... writes:

<<

should mention i find the rice fillers fairely indigestible so i tip

the contents out of the capsule into my mouth to mix it with the

starch splitting amylase in silvia

>>

January 23, 2003

Hi Barbara,

I'm not very good with supplement questions, but it looks like

no one answered this, so I'll give it a shot.

> would adding a zinc suppliment, this one I'm using has:

> vit. A 333iu

> vit. C 33mg

> elemental zinc 5mg

> slippery elm 5mg

> could this cause sleep problems?

--um--there is not a reason I know of that it would. but that

doesn't mean it couldn't, for someone, or for some reason I

don't know of. Andy recommends zinc and C 4 times a day.

(Also magnesium and milk thistle and B's 4 times a day.)

> I have not started cleating yet (

waiting for shipment to arrive) he is also taking SNT, multi vit.

w/iron, and papya enzymes with every meals.. also is their anything

else I can do to prep his body for cleation?

I don't know what's in SNT and your multi.

vitamin E, mixed carotenes, vitamin A, and B vitamins are

recommended by Andy. (some may be already covered?)

Also milk thistle, good for liver, 4 times a day. (unlikely to

be in any multi-vitamin product)

>

> Would flax oil be beneficial during cleation?

yes, and before too. mercury and other stresses will use up

EFAs (which is what flax oil provides) and B's and probably lots

of other nutrients. You can give the flax oil once a day or

less often.

> I am scared about this but I know this is my last resort. I have

been all over the posts and andy's site but nothing directly addressed

this, that I found anyways..

if you want to read more about supplements you can go here:

/files/ANDY_INDEX

and look at the section on supplements and food.

best wishes,

Moria

January 23, 2003

Thank you!

[ ] Re: zinc

Hi Barbara,

I'm not very good with supplement questions, but it looks like

no one answered this, so I'll give it a shot.

> would adding a zinc suppliment, this one I'm using has:

> vit. A 333iu

> vit. C 33mg

> elemental zinc 5mg

> slippery elm 5mg

> could this cause sleep problems?

--um--there is not a reason I know of that it would. but that

doesn't mean it couldn't, for someone, or for some reason I

don't know of. Andy recommends zinc and C 4 times a day.

(Also magnesium and milk thistle and B's 4 times a day.)

> I have not started cleating yet (

waiting for shipment to arrive) he is also taking SNT, multi vit.

w/iron, and papya enzymes with every meals.. also is their anything

else I can do to prep his body for cleation?

I don't know what's in SNT and your multi.

vitamin E, mixed carotenes, vitamin A, and B vitamins are

recommended by Andy. (some may be already covered?)

Also milk thistle, good for liver, 4 times a day. (unlikely to

be in any multi-vitamin product)

>

> Would flax oil be beneficial during cleation?

yes, and before too. mercury and other stresses will use up

EFAs (which is what flax oil provides) and B's and probably lots

of other nutrients. You can give the flax oil once a day or

less often.

> I am scared about this but I know this is my last resort. I have

been all over the posts and andy's site but nothing directly addressed

this, that I found anyways..

if you want to read more about supplements you can go here:

/files/ANDY_INDEX

and look at the section on supplements and food.

best wishes,

Moria

January 24, 2003

In a message dated 1/24/2003 11:04:03 AM Central Standard Time,

aprokofiew@... writes:

> Some kids go wild/manic/hyper when adding more than just a small

> amount of zinc.

>

> >>

> this is Jon, anyone know why???

>

My son is like this. One possible reason might be that his copper, in ratio

to his zinc, was high. I have been giving him transdermal zinc for several

months, and he is now able to get 7.5 mg zinc orally and about 10 mg zinc

transdermally just about every day. If he starts getting hyper, usually if I

stop the transdermal zinc for a day or two then he's OK again. Overall he

seems better about zinc now, though I'm never going to try for the high

amounts of zinc that some people are able to use. I'm guessing that maybe his

copper level is more normal now and that's why he can handle more zinc, but

honestly, this is all just a guess on my part. I really don't know.

Debbie

January 24, 2003

>>

Some kids go wild/manic/hyper when adding more than just a small

amount of zinc.

>>

this is Jon, anyone know why???

January 24, 2003

--- In , barb and tode <bvan227@c...>

wrote:

> would adding a zinc suppliment, this one I'm using has:

> vit. A 333iu

> vit. C 33mg

> elemental zinc 5mg

> slippery elm 5mg

> could this cause sleep problems?

Some kids go wild/manic/hyper when adding more than just a small

amount of zinc.

>> I have not started cleating yet (

waiting for shipment to arrive) he is also taking SNT, multi vit.

w/iron, and papya enzymes with every meals..

All of these things can cause sleep problems for many children,

especially the SNT

http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

Dana

January 24, 2003

> Some kids go wild/manic/hyper when adding more than just a small

> amount of zinc.

> >>

> this is Jon, anyone know why???

Possible thyroid problems (as in hyper). Zinc increases thyroid action, so

more zinc means the thyroid might work faster. If he already is

hyperthyroid.... problems.

Also, something else that influences zinc... B6. I am not sure what's the

connection, but I was reading somewhere that if you want to supplement zinc

you have to give B6 also because somehow zinc depletes it (??)... I am not

sure if this is what I read, but I remember it was a connection between zinc

and B6.

Valentina

January 24, 2003

Also I have read that zinc's flushing effect on copper can cause

behavioural problems if kids with high copper levels get too much

flushed out too fast. Getting excess copper out is good, but it can

cause irritability and behavioural problems. If you suspect this is

happening could be a sign you should cut back zinc and molybdenum a

little until things settle down.

--- In , Valentina Scharpf <val@t...>

wrote:

> > Some kids go wild/manic/hyper when adding more than just a small

> > amount of zinc.

> > >>

> > this is Jon, anyone know why???

>

> Possible thyroid problems (as in hyper). Zinc increases thyroid

action, so

> more zinc means the thyroid might work faster. If he already is

> hyperthyroid.... problems.

>

> Also, something else that influences zinc... B6. I am not sure

what's the

> connection, but I was reading somewhere that if you want to

supplement zinc

> you have to give B6 also because somehow zinc depletes it (??)... I

am not

> sure if this is what I read, but I remember it was a connection

between zinc

> and B6.

>

> Valentina

January 24, 2003

thats interesting about zinc and b6

i though it was higher copper that got dumped when zinc was used that

made for kids going wild

i am a tad hyperthyroid and zinc if anything makes for slower.

--- In , Valentina Scharpf <val@t...>

wrote:

> > Some kids go wild/manic/hyper when adding more than just a small

> > amount of zinc.

> > >>

> > this is Jon, anyone know why???

>

> Possible thyroid problems (as in hyper). Zinc increases thyroid

action, so

> more zinc means the thyroid might work faster. If he already is

> hyperthyroid.... problems.

>

> Also, something else that influences zinc... B6. I am not sure

what's the

> connection, but I was reading somewhere that if you want to

supplement zinc

> you have to give B6 also because somehow zinc depletes it (??)... I

am not

> sure if this is what I read, but I remember it was a connection

between zinc

> and B6.

>

> Valentina

January 24, 2003

I'm not 100% on this, but I think she was refering to the fact that high levels

of zinc have been known to remove copper, now it is a metal but it is needed in

the body..I have been giving my son liquid chlorophyll which is Sodium copper

chlorophyllin, which I hope is leveling him off, I don't give too much extra

zinc, but since I know he is absorbing very little due to toxisity. I do think

this is working for us at the moment. I havn't seen any wild behavior yet. When

I do I'll take that as a sign to stop the extra zinc.

Thanks for all the input from everyone.

Always appreciated! Highly!!!!!

Barbara

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