Newbie

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your (very complete) answers, Margret and !

I had a good laugh watching the video

(OK, I am reassured about the delicacy of the operations !)

I just received the book by Günther W. and will have a good

reading session this week-end.

Cheers,

Antoine

[Guest guest]

Hi, Pat, no not any seed can be sprouted. Seeds found it stores, beans,

peas, etc., sometimes are damaged in processing. Its best to get seeds

labeled specifically for sprouting. These can be purchased at some health

food stores, but the health for store in my town is dark, hot and dirty.

I don't purchase anything there. For how to, check out .com,

they have instructions on how to sprout most anything. Also, you can buy

seeds and equipment from them. I suggest that you start with a quart wide

mouth jar. Go to you tube, and type in sprouting and there are a lot of

videos there.

ew

newbie

Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:02:51 -0000

Hi everyone, my name is Pat and I'm a newbie in the group and new to

sprouting. Can any seeds be sprouted and how do I go about it? ( not

asking much am I? LOL )

Pat

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wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad. "

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[Guest guest]

Hi'I just posted a response to a post earlier this week regarding later in

childhood.  My pediatrician told me that he just learned that there is a study

being done with regards to possibly finding 2 different types of , one

having an early onset and the other later on.  I have emailed him asking him for

more information.  Will post when I receive it.

Olga

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi. Couldn't find an answer in Files or searching Messages. Anyone know of a

good source in the USA for purchasing small quantities of essential oils? I'm

looking for a good jasmine. Thanks! :wink2:

>

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As far as purchasing small quantities of EO's, I would suggest Liberty Naturals

and Eden Botanicals. I have ordered lots of samples from these two companies. As

far as a good jasmine, I will defer to the others. Happy shopping!

npvanilla

[Guest guest]

I to understand but my huge concern is that it appears you live in

Mansfield? is this in Ohio.... if so that is of where I to be of grown up at and

it is of a horrible place for me. I to moved to Columbus for supports. I to go

to a dr. there names of Emilio Amigo he is of born cuban but moved to this

country as an exile in the 1960's. he is of a very good psychologist who treats

kids and adults on the spectrum he has over 160-175 clients each week at hims

office. so he sees hundreds over the years of very different presentations of

spectrum issues. it would be of good to have more females to come.

sondra

[Guest guest]

I to understand but my huge concern is that it appears you live in

Mansfield? is this in Ohio.... if so that is of where I to be of grown up at and

it is of a horrible place for me. I to moved to Columbus for supports. I to go

to a dr. there names of Emilio Amigo he is of born cuban but moved to this

country as an exile in the 1960's. he is of a very good psychologist who treats

kids and adults on the spectrum he has over 160-175 clients each week at hims

office. so he sees hundreds over the years of very different presentations of

spectrum issues. it would be of good to have more females to come.

sondra

[Guest guest]

I to understand but my huge concern is that it appears you live in

Mansfield? is this in Ohio.... if so that is of where I to be of grown up at and

it is of a horrible place for me. I to moved to Columbus for supports. I to go

to a dr. there names of Emilio Amigo he is of born cuban but moved to this

country as an exile in the 1960's. he is of a very good psychologist who treats

kids and adults on the spectrum he has over 160-175 clients each week at hims

office. so he sees hundreds over the years of very different presentations of

spectrum issues. it would be of good to have more females to come.

sondra

[Guest guest]

This is for . I cannot find your original message, but I hope you read

this. I am sorry that your parents did not want to give you a diagnosis because

they thought it would hurt you. I am a parent now, and working on getting my 3

year old, Zoe, diagnosed. I am having some issues with my mother not wanting me

to get her diagnosed. She tells me she will be " labeled " and considered

" autistic " forever. I am so confused by her thoughts. If my daughter is

autistic, and she needs help, why wouldn't I want to give it to her? I don't

understand why people act this way about autism. If it were cancer, if my

daughter had cancer, would ignoring it make it go away? No, and neither will

ignoring autism. I really hope that you can get the help you need, either here

in this group, or somewhere in your area.

jamie

[Guest guest]

This is for . I cannot find your original message, but I hope you read

this. I am sorry that your parents did not want to give you a diagnosis because

they thought it would hurt you. I am a parent now, and working on getting my 3

year old, Zoe, diagnosed. I am having some issues with my mother not wanting me

to get her diagnosed. She tells me she will be " labeled " and considered

" autistic " forever. I am so confused by her thoughts. If my daughter is

autistic, and she needs help, why wouldn't I want to give it to her? I don't

understand why people act this way about autism. If it were cancer, if my

daughter had cancer, would ignoring it make it go away? No, and neither will

ignoring autism. I really hope that you can get the help you need, either here

in this group, or somewhere in your area.

jamie

[Guest guest]

Sondra,

I was born in Mansfield,TX my father is in the militart however and now we are

in Lawton,OK.

________________________________

To: Autism_in_Girls_and_Women

Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 9:09:29 AM

Subject: Re: newbie

I to understand but my huge concern is that it appears you live in

Mansfield? is this in Ohio.... if so that is of where I to be of grown up at and

it is of a horrible place for me. I to moved to Columbus for supports. I to go

to a dr. there names of Emilio Amigo he is of born cuban but moved to this

country as an exile in the 1960's. he is of a very good psychologist who treats

kids and adults on the spectrum he has over 160-175 clients each week at hims

office. so he sees hundreds over the years of very different presentations of

spectrum issues. it would be of good to have more females to come.

sondra

[Guest guest]

Sondra,

I was born in Mansfield,TX my father is in the militart however and now we are

in Lawton,OK.

________________________________

To: Autism_in_Girls_and_Women

Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 9:09:29 AM

Subject: Re: newbie

I to understand but my huge concern is that it appears you live in

Mansfield? is this in Ohio.... if so that is of where I to be of grown up at and

it is of a horrible place for me. I to moved to Columbus for supports. I to go

to a dr. there names of Emilio Amigo he is of born cuban but moved to this

country as an exile in the 1960's. he is of a very good psychologist who treats

kids and adults on the spectrum he has over 160-175 clients each week at hims

office. so he sees hundreds over the years of very different presentations of

spectrum issues. it would be of good to have more females to come.

sondra

[Guest guest]

Sondra,

I was born in Mansfield,TX my father is in the militart however and now we are

in Lawton,OK.

________________________________

To: Autism_in_Girls_and_Women

Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 9:09:29 AM

Subject: Re: newbie

I to understand but my huge concern is that it appears you live in

Mansfield? is this in Ohio.... if so that is of where I to be of grown up at and

it is of a horrible place for me. I to moved to Columbus for supports. I to go

to a dr. there names of Emilio Amigo he is of born cuban but moved to this

country as an exile in the 1960's. he is of a very good psychologist who treats

kids and adults on the spectrum he has over 160-175 clients each week at hims

office. so he sees hundreds over the years of very different presentations of

spectrum issues. it would be of good to have more females to come.

sondra

[Guest guest]

,

It was not my parents that did not want me dignosed!

I WAS THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS AND THE DOCTORS!!!!!!

In fact my parents would tell every school I have Autism but they never had any

offical paperwork so I got a IEP only because of my Diabetes and " emotionaly

disturbed problems "  

________________________________

From: cerulean1974 <no_reply >

To: Autism_in_Girls_and_Women

Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 9:30:25 AM

Subject: Re: newbie

This is for . I cannot find your original message, but I hope you read

this. I am sorry that your parents did not want to give you a diagnosis because

they thought it would hurt you. I am a parent now, and working on getting my 3

year old, Zoe, diagnosed. I am having some issues with my mother not wanting me

to get her diagnosed. She tells me she will be " labeled " and considered

" autistic " forever. I am so confused by her thoughts. If my daughter is

autistic, and she needs help, why wouldn't I want to give it to her? I don't

understand why people act this way about autism. If it were cancer, if my

daughter had cancer, would ignoring it make it go away? No, and neither will

ignoring autism. I really hope that you can get the help you need, either here

in this group, or somewhere in your area.

jamie

[Guest guest]

,

It was not my parents that did not want me dignosed!

I WAS THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS AND THE DOCTORS!!!!!!

In fact my parents would tell every school I have Autism but they never had any

offical paperwork so I got a IEP only because of my Diabetes and " emotionaly

disturbed problems "  

________________________________

From: cerulean1974 <no_reply >

To: Autism_in_Girls_and_Women

Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 9:30:25 AM

Subject: Re: newbie

This is for . I cannot find your original message, but I hope you read

this. I am sorry that your parents did not want to give you a diagnosis because

they thought it would hurt you. I am a parent now, and working on getting my 3

year old, Zoe, diagnosed. I am having some issues with my mother not wanting me

to get her diagnosed. She tells me she will be " labeled " and considered

" autistic " forever. I am so confused by her thoughts. If my daughter is

autistic, and she needs help, why wouldn't I want to give it to her? I don't

understand why people act this way about autism. If it were cancer, if my

daughter had cancer, would ignoring it make it go away? No, and neither will

ignoring autism. I really hope that you can get the help you need, either here

in this group, or somewhere in your area.

jamie

[Guest guest]

,

It was not my parents that did not want me dignosed!

I WAS THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS AND THE DOCTORS!!!!!!

In fact my parents would tell every school I have Autism but they never had any

offical paperwork so I got a IEP only because of my Diabetes and " emotionaly

disturbed problems "  

________________________________

From: cerulean1974 <no_reply >

To: Autism_in_Girls_and_Women

Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 9:30:25 AM

Subject: Re: newbie

This is for . I cannot find your original message, but I hope you read

this. I am sorry that your parents did not want to give you a diagnosis because

they thought it would hurt you. I am a parent now, and working on getting my 3

year old, Zoe, diagnosed. I am having some issues with my mother not wanting me

to get her diagnosed. She tells me she will be " labeled " and considered

" autistic " forever. I am so confused by her thoughts. If my daughter is

autistic, and she needs help, why wouldn't I want to give it to her? I don't

understand why people act this way about autism. If it were cancer, if my

daughter had cancer, would ignoring it make it go away? No, and neither will

ignoring autism. I really hope that you can get the help you need, either here

in this group, or somewhere in your area.

jamie

[Guest guest]

so happy you do not live to mansfield ohio that is of a terrible place.

sondra

[Guest guest]

so happy you do not live to mansfield ohio that is of a terrible place.

sondra

[Guest guest]

so happy you do not live to mansfield ohio that is of a terrible place.

sondra

[Guest guest]

Hi

" This is for . I cannot find your original message, but I hope you read

this. I am sorry that your parents did not want to give you a diagnosis

because they thought it would hurt you. I am a parent now, and working on

getting my 3 year old, Zoe, diagnosed. I am having some issues with my

mother not wanting me to get her diagnosed. She tells me she will be

" labeled " and considered " autistic " forever. I am so confused by her

thoughts. If my daughter is autistic, and she needs help, why wouldn't I

want to give it to her? I don't understand why people act this way about

autism. If it were cancer, if my daughter had cancer, would ignoring it make

it go away? No, and neither will ignoring autism. I really hope that you can

get the help you need, either here in this group, or somewhere in your area.

"

Unfortunately this is a world where prejudice rules far too often. Zoe's

grandmother perhaps had experiences with people with labels being

discriminated against. Perhaps she remembers Hitler killing people with the

label autistic or the like. Perhaps she remembers someone less whose family

were embarrassed by autism. It is understandable but it perpetuates the idea

that our disorders are a fault rather than just a fact of life. I don't know

why all people aren't loved and accepted equally in this society but they

aren't. Be it neuro-diversity or any other sort of difference, change is in

the air. Perhaps not in my life time but it will happen.

Maybe we should just give everyone a label so it becomes the cool thing.

Weirder things have happened. < smile>

Nora

[Guest guest]

Hi

" This is for . I cannot find your original message, but I hope you read

this. I am sorry that your parents did not want to give you a diagnosis

because they thought it would hurt you. I am a parent now, and working on

getting my 3 year old, Zoe, diagnosed. I am having some issues with my

mother not wanting me to get her diagnosed. She tells me she will be

" labeled " and considered " autistic " forever. I am so confused by her

thoughts. If my daughter is autistic, and she needs help, why wouldn't I

want to give it to her? I don't understand why people act this way about

autism. If it were cancer, if my daughter had cancer, would ignoring it make

it go away? No, and neither will ignoring autism. I really hope that you can

get the help you need, either here in this group, or somewhere in your area.

"

Unfortunately this is a world where prejudice rules far too often. Zoe's

grandmother perhaps had experiences with people with labels being

discriminated against. Perhaps she remembers Hitler killing people with the

label autistic or the like. Perhaps she remembers someone less whose family

were embarrassed by autism. It is understandable but it perpetuates the idea

that our disorders are a fault rather than just a fact of life. I don't know

why all people aren't loved and accepted equally in this society but they

aren't. Be it neuro-diversity or any other sort of difference, change is in

the air. Perhaps not in my life time but it will happen.

Maybe we should just give everyone a label so it becomes the cool thing.

Weirder things have happened. < smile>

Nora

[Guest guest]

Hi

" This is for . I cannot find your original message, but I hope you read

this. I am sorry that your parents did not want to give you a diagnosis

because they thought it would hurt you. I am a parent now, and working on

getting my 3 year old, Zoe, diagnosed. I am having some issues with my

mother not wanting me to get her diagnosed. She tells me she will be

" labeled " and considered " autistic " forever. I am so confused by her

thoughts. If my daughter is autistic, and she needs help, why wouldn't I

want to give it to her? I don't understand why people act this way about

autism. If it were cancer, if my daughter had cancer, would ignoring it make

it go away? No, and neither will ignoring autism. I really hope that you can

get the help you need, either here in this group, or somewhere in your area.

"

Unfortunately this is a world where prejudice rules far too often. Zoe's

grandmother perhaps had experiences with people with labels being

discriminated against. Perhaps she remembers Hitler killing people with the

label autistic or the like. Perhaps she remembers someone less whose family

were embarrassed by autism. It is understandable but it perpetuates the idea

that our disorders are a fault rather than just a fact of life. I don't know

why all people aren't loved and accepted equally in this society but they

aren't. Be it neuro-diversity or any other sort of difference, change is in

the air. Perhaps not in my life time but it will happen.

Maybe we should just give everyone a label so it becomes the cool thing.

Weirder things have happened. < smile>

Nora

[Guest guest]

Oh Nora, I LOVE that idea of giving everyone a label!

You know I ran into some of the same issues with the school and my daughter.

She has always had an IEP due to her epilepsy and developmental delays.

However the doctors (at the time) had said the delays were likely due to the

medications she was on as an infant to try and control her seizures. The

school was more than willing to accept this as the cause and after several

years of being off the meds that cause delays, and having therapy all that

time, and there still wasn't significant improvement, especially in the

language department, I asked a few people about autism being a possibility

and the teachers at school would either say 'she talks so she doesn't have

autism' or 'she's too social to be autistic' and one doctor even told me

that maybe she had Aspergers but they'd not look into that till she was 10

or 11!

They all said that applying the label of Autism wouldn't increase the

therapy and supports etc. that she would get so it didn't make sense to do

that to her.

It was only because I knew that *I* needed to know if it was Autism or not,

that we finally got a developmental peditrician to do a full evaluation on

her and determined that she did indeed have Autism. She has recently started

with a private behavioral/mental health therapist and she has said that just

in the short time that she's seen her she can say that she feels she

definately falls on the spectrum.

This got her and I talking about this support group and how it has helped me

deal with 's autism and what it could mean for her long term future

in a better way. And how the more I learn about what those with Autism

really feel and different 'quirks' of those with Autism, that I don't really

see how people with Autism are all that much different than those of us

considered to be NeuroTypical. There are many things that Sondra (and

others) have said, that I can personally relate to, or know others who can

as well.

That is when the therapist said to me that she agreed that she felt the vast

majority of people have different parts of the spectrum as well and the only

difference is if it's something that interferes with our daily living or

not.

Such as OCD tendancies. She shared with me that as a child she knew where

everything in the house went, every knic-knac, every piece of furniture and

she would have a fit if something was moved, even by just a few inches. She

shared that her mother would fix the things for her cause it was easier to

do that, than deal with her tantrum. But she eventually learned to work

through that and grew to understand that it was ok that things aren't always

in their place.

I myself am not a terribly organized person (which is actually an

understatement! LOL) but I've always been very particular about how laundry

is folded, especially towels. Well when my older daughter got old enough to

start helping out with stuff around the house it was really hard for me to

let go of the idea of them being done perfectly to my satisfaction. It took

some time for me to let her do them, and in fact it still bothers me when I

go in and look in the closet and see them not folded how I like and stacked

in any which way and not organized in there like I like... but I can deal

with it and let it go because I know it's important for Tiffanie to learn

how to do these things and for me NOT to go behind her and fix it, making he

feel like she can't do it good enough. There will be plenty of time after

she's grown and out on her own for me to worry about it being organized.

At work I have a specific way of doing each task and when others come in to

help, I appriciate the help but get aggravated when they do it their way and

I prefer it all to be uniform and done the same way. But I can deal with it

and move on.

But I think that knowing that a person has Autism can only be helpful to

those in their daily lives, because it helps them to know what to expect and

know that they may need to adapt their way of doing things so that it better

fits the child. If I didn't know that had Autism then when she had a

tantrum I may get mad at her and scold her or punish her by taking away a

favorite thing or putting her in time out etc. But knowing that she has

Autism I know that these things won't be effective and that the tantrum is

usually her way of trying to express herself, and what I really need to do

is calm her and show her a better way to express herself, in hopes that some

day she will be able to recall these skills and express her frustration in

more constructive ways than falling on the floor yelling or pinching and

squeezing etc.

JMO

Theresa

>

>

>

> Hi

>

> " This is for . I cannot find your original message, but I hope you

> read

> this. I am sorry that your parents did not want to give you a diagnosis

> because they thought it would hurt you. I am a parent now, and working on

> getting my 3 year old, Zoe, diagnosed. I am having some issues with my

> mother not wanting me to get her diagnosed. She tells me she will be

> " labeled " and considered " autistic " forever. I am so confused by her

> thoughts. If my daughter is autistic, and she needs help, why wouldn't I

> want to give it to her? I don't understand why people act this way about

> autism. If it were cancer, if my daughter had cancer, would ignoring it

> make

> it go away? No, and neither will ignoring autism. I really hope that you

> can

> get the help you need, either here in this group, or somewhere in your

> area.

> "

>

> Unfortunately this is a world where prejudice rules far too often. Zoe's

> grandmother perhaps had experiences with people with labels being

> discriminated against. Perhaps she remembers Hitler killing people with the

> label autistic or the like. Perhaps she remembers someone less whose family

> were embarrassed by autism. It is understandable but it perpetuates the

> idea

> that our disorders are a fault rather than just a fact of life. I don't

> know

> why all people aren't loved and accepted equally in this society but they

> aren't. Be it neuro-diversity or any other sort of difference, change is in

> the air. Perhaps not in my life time but it will happen.

>

> Maybe we should just give everyone a label so it becomes the cool thing.

> Weirder things have happened. < smile>

>

> Nora

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh Nora, I LOVE that idea of giving everyone a label!

You know I ran into some of the same issues with the school and my daughter.

She has always had an IEP due to her epilepsy and developmental delays.

However the doctors (at the time) had said the delays were likely due to the

medications she was on as an infant to try and control her seizures. The

school was more than willing to accept this as the cause and after several

years of being off the meds that cause delays, and having therapy all that

time, and there still wasn't significant improvement, especially in the

language department, I asked a few people about autism being a possibility

and the teachers at school would either say 'she talks so she doesn't have

autism' or 'she's too social to be autistic' and one doctor even told me

that maybe she had Aspergers but they'd not look into that till she was 10

or 11!

They all said that applying the label of Autism wouldn't increase the

therapy and supports etc. that she would get so it didn't make sense to do

that to her.

It was only because I knew that *I* needed to know if it was Autism or not,

that we finally got a developmental peditrician to do a full evaluation on

her and determined that she did indeed have Autism. She has recently started

with a private behavioral/mental health therapist and she has said that just

in the short time that she's seen her she can say that she feels she

definately falls on the spectrum.

This got her and I talking about this support group and how it has helped me

deal with 's autism and what it could mean for her long term future

in a better way. And how the more I learn about what those with Autism

really feel and different 'quirks' of those with Autism, that I don't really

see how people with Autism are all that much different than those of us

considered to be NeuroTypical. There are many things that Sondra (and

others) have said, that I can personally relate to, or know others who can

as well.

That is when the therapist said to me that she agreed that she felt the vast

majority of people have different parts of the spectrum as well and the only

difference is if it's something that interferes with our daily living or

not.

Such as OCD tendancies. She shared with me that as a child she knew where

everything in the house went, every knic-knac, every piece of furniture and

she would have a fit if something was moved, even by just a few inches. She

shared that her mother would fix the things for her cause it was easier to

do that, than deal with her tantrum. But she eventually learned to work

through that and grew to understand that it was ok that things aren't always

in their place.

I myself am not a terribly organized person (which is actually an

understatement! LOL) but I've always been very particular about how laundry

is folded, especially towels. Well when my older daughter got old enough to

start helping out with stuff around the house it was really hard for me to

let go of the idea of them being done perfectly to my satisfaction. It took

some time for me to let her do them, and in fact it still bothers me when I

go in and look in the closet and see them not folded how I like and stacked

in any which way and not organized in there like I like... but I can deal

with it and let it go because I know it's important for Tiffanie to learn

how to do these things and for me NOT to go behind her and fix it, making he

feel like she can't do it good enough. There will be plenty of time after

she's grown and out on her own for me to worry about it being organized.

At work I have a specific way of doing each task and when others come in to

help, I appriciate the help but get aggravated when they do it their way and

I prefer it all to be uniform and done the same way. But I can deal with it

and move on.

But I think that knowing that a person has Autism can only be helpful to

those in their daily lives, because it helps them to know what to expect and

know that they may need to adapt their way of doing things so that it better

fits the child. If I didn't know that had Autism then when she had a

tantrum I may get mad at her and scold her or punish her by taking away a

favorite thing or putting her in time out etc. But knowing that she has

Autism I know that these things won't be effective and that the tantrum is

usually her way of trying to express herself, and what I really need to do

is calm her and show her a better way to express herself, in hopes that some

day she will be able to recall these skills and express her frustration in

more constructive ways than falling on the floor yelling or pinching and

squeezing etc.

JMO

Theresa

>

>

>

> Hi

>

> " This is for . I cannot find your original message, but I hope you

> read

> this. I am sorry that your parents did not want to give you a diagnosis

> because they thought it would hurt you. I am a parent now, and working on

> getting my 3 year old, Zoe, diagnosed. I am having some issues with my

> mother not wanting me to get her diagnosed. She tells me she will be

> " labeled " and considered " autistic " forever. I am so confused by her

> thoughts. If my daughter is autistic, and she needs help, why wouldn't I

> want to give it to her? I don't understand why people act this way about

> autism. If it were cancer, if my daughter had cancer, would ignoring it

> make

> it go away? No, and neither will ignoring autism. I really hope that you

> can

> get the help you need, either here in this group, or somewhere in your

> area.

> "

>

> Unfortunately this is a world where prejudice rules far too often. Zoe's

> grandmother perhaps had experiences with people with labels being

> discriminated against. Perhaps she remembers Hitler killing people with the

> label autistic or the like. Perhaps she remembers someone less whose family

> were embarrassed by autism. It is understandable but it perpetuates the

> idea

> that our disorders are a fault rather than just a fact of life. I don't

> know

> why all people aren't loved and accepted equally in this society but they

> aren't. Be it neuro-diversity or any other sort of difference, change is in

> the air. Perhaps not in my life time but it will happen.

>

> Maybe we should just give everyone a label so it becomes the cool thing.

> Weirder things have happened. < smile>

>

> Nora

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh Nora, I LOVE that idea of giving everyone a label!

You know I ran into some of the same issues with the school and my daughter.

She has always had an IEP due to her epilepsy and developmental delays.

However the doctors (at the time) had said the delays were likely due to the

medications she was on as an infant to try and control her seizures. The

school was more than willing to accept this as the cause and after several

years of being off the meds that cause delays, and having therapy all that

time, and there still wasn't significant improvement, especially in the

language department, I asked a few people about autism being a possibility

and the teachers at school would either say 'she talks so she doesn't have

autism' or 'she's too social to be autistic' and one doctor even told me

that maybe she had Aspergers but they'd not look into that till she was 10

or 11!

They all said that applying the label of Autism wouldn't increase the

therapy and supports etc. that she would get so it didn't make sense to do

that to her.

It was only because I knew that *I* needed to know if it was Autism or not,

that we finally got a developmental peditrician to do a full evaluation on

her and determined that she did indeed have Autism. She has recently started

with a private behavioral/mental health therapist and she has said that just

in the short time that she's seen her she can say that she feels she

definately falls on the spectrum.

This got her and I talking about this support group and how it has helped me

deal with 's autism and what it could mean for her long term future

in a better way. And how the more I learn about what those with Autism

really feel and different 'quirks' of those with Autism, that I don't really

see how people with Autism are all that much different than those of us

considered to be NeuroTypical. There are many things that Sondra (and

others) have said, that I can personally relate to, or know others who can

as well.

That is when the therapist said to me that she agreed that she felt the vast

majority of people have different parts of the spectrum as well and the only

difference is if it's something that interferes with our daily living or

not.

Such as OCD tendancies. She shared with me that as a child she knew where

everything in the house went, every knic-knac, every piece of furniture and

she would have a fit if something was moved, even by just a few inches. She

shared that her mother would fix the things for her cause it was easier to

do that, than deal with her tantrum. But she eventually learned to work

through that and grew to understand that it was ok that things aren't always

in their place.

I myself am not a terribly organized person (which is actually an

understatement! LOL) but I've always been very particular about how laundry

is folded, especially towels. Well when my older daughter got old enough to

start helping out with stuff around the house it was really hard for me to

let go of the idea of them being done perfectly to my satisfaction. It took

some time for me to let her do them, and in fact it still bothers me when I

go in and look in the closet and see them not folded how I like and stacked

in any which way and not organized in there like I like... but I can deal

with it and let it go because I know it's important for Tiffanie to learn

how to do these things and for me NOT to go behind her and fix it, making he

feel like she can't do it good enough. There will be plenty of time after

she's grown and out on her own for me to worry about it being organized.

At work I have a specific way of doing each task and when others come in to

help, I appriciate the help but get aggravated when they do it their way and

I prefer it all to be uniform and done the same way. But I can deal with it

and move on.

But I think that knowing that a person has Autism can only be helpful to

those in their daily lives, because it helps them to know what to expect and

know that they may need to adapt their way of doing things so that it better

fits the child. If I didn't know that had Autism then when she had a

tantrum I may get mad at her and scold her or punish her by taking away a

favorite thing or putting her in time out etc. But knowing that she has

Autism I know that these things won't be effective and that the tantrum is

usually her way of trying to express herself, and what I really need to do

is calm her and show her a better way to express herself, in hopes that some

day she will be able to recall these skills and express her frustration in

more constructive ways than falling on the floor yelling or pinching and

squeezing etc.

JMO

Theresa

>

>

>

> Hi

>

> " This is for . I cannot find your original message, but I hope you

> read

> this. I am sorry that your parents did not want to give you a diagnosis

> because they thought it would hurt you. I am a parent now, and working on

> getting my 3 year old, Zoe, diagnosed. I am having some issues with my

> mother not wanting me to get her diagnosed. She tells me she will be

> " labeled " and considered " autistic " forever. I am so confused by her

> thoughts. If my daughter is autistic, and she needs help, why wouldn't I

> want to give it to her? I don't understand why people act this way about

> autism. If it were cancer, if my daughter had cancer, would ignoring it

> make

> it go away? No, and neither will ignoring autism. I really hope that you

> can

> get the help you need, either here in this group, or somewhere in your

> area.

> "

>

> Unfortunately this is a world where prejudice rules far too often. Zoe's

> grandmother perhaps had experiences with people with labels being

> discriminated against. Perhaps she remembers Hitler killing people with the

> label autistic or the like. Perhaps she remembers someone less whose family

> were embarrassed by autism. It is understandable but it perpetuates the

> idea

> that our disorders are a fault rather than just a fact of life. I don't

> know

> why all people aren't loved and accepted equally in this society but they

> aren't. Be it neuro-diversity or any other sort of difference, change is in

> the air. Perhaps not in my life time but it will happen.

>

> Maybe we should just give everyone a label so it becomes the cool thing.

> Weirder things have happened. < smile>

>

> Nora

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue and welcome!

Thanks for introducing yourself.

Please look through the files and search archives and look at the

photos.

When you are ready and have questions.... let us know!! :-)

Gayle

(WI/USA)

On May 29, 2009, at 12:10 PM, sue_cousino wrote:

> Hi,

>

> Just wanted to introduce myself. I am not currently making KT, but

> am interested in learning about it and perhaps getting started in

> the near future. So far, your posts have been interesting. Plan on

> digging into the files too.

>

> I live in SE Michigan with my 5 huskies, 1 golden rescue, and 7

> stray?? cats (all have taken up residence here!). I currently make

> milk and water kefir. The milk kefir is shared with my animals and

> a friend with MS.

>

> Sue

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