hello

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Mt b-day is still on the list May 22

> Hi Jodi,

>

> Welcome back!

>

> Can you please tell me your birthday again, so that I can add it

into the

> Birthday List?

>

> Thanks,

> Ling

[Guest guest]

Hi Jodi-I am a fairly new member here and am always behind in email but

look forward to getting to know you. carol

On Sat, 24 Nov 2001 01:45:44 -0000 jodicee_2000@... writes:

> Hi My name is Jodi. I used to be a member of tis group and lost my

> internet. My profile is still in the profiles on the third page .

>

> My email is now SexyJodie@... my aim name is Jodicee75. i

> don't know who to contact to get all this changed in the b-day list

>

> and am having trouble changing profile. anyway hello to everyone

> from before and Howdy to all of you I haven't met

>

> Jodi

>

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Welcome Charlene and family,

Hi, my name is Mabel Comas, mom to a set of 32 months old g-b-g,

triplets, my little one a has down syndrome. When I first had them I

thought I was the only one with triplets and one baby with ds. I found this

list and is a great place to be, surrounded by caring and loving people.

They are great. I saw the pictures of your beautiful babies. Brought me

memories. Again welcome and I will keep you and your family in my prayers.

Mabel, mom to Carolina, Cristian and a-ds 32 months old

>From: " Charlene Robbins " <taqsium@...>

>Reply-Multiples-DS

>Multiples-DS

>Subject: Hello

>Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:26:14 -0800

>

>I have twins, boy and girl born

>8/22/01 both with D.S. and my boy, Keane has PKU. They both also have the

>A/V heart defect. Keane is stable right now and has been home since he was

>3

>weeks old but Kalena has been in and out of Children's Hospital with

>complications. They are now going to schedule her heart surgery because of

>all the problems and she is finally big enough to have it!

>

>I also have an 11 y/o boy, who is the most wonderful, proud, big

>brother.

>I am also currently separated from my husband since I was 6 months

>pregnant.

>We are working well together as a team, but still struggle with our

>personal

>differences now and again.

>

>So just wanted to introduce the " baby birds " and the Robbins' Nest. I'm so

>glad you are all here for support.

>

>

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>xoxoxoxox

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Welcome Char and newborn twins!

I'm Gail, from New Jersey! I have 4 kids, Bobby 7 1/2, Jillian 5, and

my twins, and Tara are two and 8 months old. Tara was born with

Down syndrome.............she is doing well, it will be so great for you

to be here at this group soo early on with your twins...........ask away

any question.......wonderful group of mostly Moms!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good luck and get some sleep!!!!!

Gail

[Guest guest]

Hi Char and Welcome! Your "bunnies" are adorable and so is ! Thanks for sharing the pictures. I have boy/girl twins who just turned seven. Sara has Down Syndrome, does not. I also have Lucas who just turned eleven. I will keep your family in our prayers and keep us informed about how everything is going for Kalena.

Marcia

Mom to Sara (DS) and 7 and Lucas 11

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the reply, Jodie. Will check the list again

when I get home!

Ling

--- jodicee_2000@... wrote: > Mt b-day is still

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>

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> > Hi Jodi,

> >

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Welcome to the list. If your looking for great prices on butters and

oils check at the bottom of the emails from the list.... you'll find a

link to Olivetreesoaps. Thats Kae's site and she has the best prices

around! She's also a member of our list.

As far as adding oils and butters to M & P I can't help you there... I

strickly melt and pour it

I'm an HPer. There are plenty of M & Pers on the list who should be able

to help you out though.

Terri

[Guest guest]

Hi Terri

I did check out the Olivetreesoaps link and loved the prices! Next buying

spree...<grin>

Ok, I'm sure this is waaay basic but...what's an " HPer " ??? (hot process? Is

this making soap bases? How does this differ from cold process?)

Re: hello

Hi ,

Welcome to the list. If your looking for great prices on butters and

oils check at the bottom of the emails from the list.... you'll find a

link to Olivetreesoaps. Thats Kae's site and she has the best prices

around! She's also a member of our list.

As far as adding oils and butters to M & P I can't help you there... I

strickly melt and pour it

I'm an HPer. There are plenty of M & Pers on the list who should be able

to help you out though.

Terri

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Morning ,

Your right HPer is hot process. The only difference between cold

process and hot process really is little to no cure time is needed to

hot process. The only cure time basically is to let it dry out a bit,

(usually about 4-5 days for me) before wrapping. When hot process is

done 2-3 hours from starting, it's soap and can be used right away where

cold process needs to cure for several weeks before use.

Terri

[Guest guest]

, Not to discount what Terri had said, but actually CP can be used

after a week or so if it is made correctly. What is usualy called " cure

time " is the water evaporating out of the soap and the soap hardening to

make it longer lasting. Now if you discount the water from the start you

dont have to wait as long. The last few batches I have made, I have

discounted the water about 30% and the soap was as hard comming out of the

mold as soap that had cured for 6+ weeks. Me, being exicted to try out some

new soaps I had made used some after a week or two and no problems with

dryness ect... I always insulate good and make sure the soap goes thru a

gel stage and I think this is important.

To me the major difference between HP and CP is the texture of the end

result. CP is much smoother, harder soap (I guess harder would depend on

the recipe too). I had found HP soaps tended to be a bit on the spoungy side

unless they sit for several weeks as well. This includes HP soap that I had

experimented as well as other peoples so I am not putting anybodys soap

down. FWIW.

These are just my experiences....

CAthy, also, Welcome to the group! Where abouts do you live in our great

state of NY?

I dont know about shea and cocoa butters going rancid in MP. Maybe some of

our MPers on this list can answer that. I am a CPer at heart.

Shaye

The Soap Shack

www.mysoapshack.com

[Guest guest]

Either Vit. E, or else Jojoba might be good too in MP. Just a little tho.

ShayeThe Soap Shackwww.mysoapshack.com

-----Original Message-----From: Shikatani [mailto:cathys@...]Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 9:11 PM Subject: hello

Hi

I'm new to this group as well as to soaping but I'm having a blast so far and have spent way too much $$ already! (too easy! <Grin> I hope to make a business of it next spring (???) and meanwhile, will have fun and test out various techniques, etc.

I'd love to make a super moisturizing bar for myself so I bought cocoa butter (shea butter was too expensive retail at the health food store). But I read some soaping instructions from the internet that you shouldn't add cocoa or shea butter to M & P soaps as it'll go bad quickly. It didn't say how quickly....? I've read that you can use Vitamin E as a moisturizer and preservative so it seems like an idea additive. Any idea how much I should add? Any info on experiences working with Vit E or the butters would be most appreciated.

Have a great weekend!

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[Guest guest]

<<<Now if you discount the water from the start you dont have to wait as

long>>>>

That would explain the long curing I used to have to do. I never

discounted and got so tired of waiting plus I was told when I first

started out to cure for at least 4 or 5 weeks. This is why I moved to HP

so soon after getting into soaping... sure, making soap was fun doing

cp, but I wanted my soap then and now! lol

Terri who just got back seeing Colleen at her show today... it was a ZOO!!

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the explanations! I also read from somewhere on the internet

about making soap by putting the shavings in an oven proof roasting bag and

boiling it for an hour...I guess that's another version of HP? I'd love to

hear about the crock pot recipe...I just love the convenience of the crock

pot...put food in there and check back 5-10 hours later! <grin>

I'm not from NY, though I grew up not far from there (I grew up in

Montreal). I'm living on the coast in central California and found out about

this group through Colleen. Hope you don't mind a west coaster dropping

in...

RE: hello

, Not to discount what Terri had said, but actually CP can be used

after a week or so if it is made correctly. What is usualy called " cure

time " is the water evaporating out of the soap and the soap hardening to

make it longer lasting. Now if you discount the water from the start you

dont have to wait as long. The last few batches I have made, I have

discounted the water about 30% and the soap was as hard comming out of the

mold as soap that had cured for 6+ weeks. Me, being exicted to try out some

new soaps I had made used some after a week or two and no problems with

dryness ect... I always insulate good and make sure the soap goes thru a

gel stage and I think this is important.

To me the major difference between HP and CP is the texture of the end

result. CP is much smoother, harder soap (I guess harder would depend on

the recipe too). I had found HP soaps tended to be a bit on the spoungy side

unless they sit for several weeks as well. This includes HP soap that I had

experimented as well as other peoples so I am not putting anybodys soap

down. FWIW.

These are just my experiences....

CAthy, also, Welcome to the group! Where abouts do you live in our great

state of NY?

I dont know about shea and cocoa butters going rancid in MP. Maybe some of

our MPers on this list can answer that. I am a CPer at heart.

Shaye

The Soap Shack

www.mysoapshack.com

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[Guest guest]

Aww ok, Im not originally a NYer either but ive been here for 20 years. Im

a Westerner too, Grew up in South Eastern Idaho.

That soap shavings in an an oven proof bag is actually one of many methods

of rebatching. HP and CP are both methods of making it from scratch.

I love using the crock pot too for food. I use it all the time. Tomorow I

am making a roast with potatoes and carrots, all cooked in the crock pot.

MMM I can taste it already LOL.

Welcome again to the list

Shaye

RE: hello

, Not to discount what Terri had said, but actually CP can be used

after a week or so if it is made correctly. What is usualy called " cure

time " is the water evaporating out of the soap and the soap hardening to

make it longer lasting. Now if you discount the water from the start you

dont have to wait as long. The last few batches I have made, I have

discounted the water about 30% and the soap was as hard comming out of the

mold as soap that had cured for 6+ weeks. Me, being exicted to try out some

new soaps I had made used some after a week or two and no problems with

dryness ect... I always insulate good and make sure the soap goes thru a

gel stage and I think this is important.

To me the major difference between HP and CP is the texture of the end

result. CP is much smoother, harder soap (I guess harder would depend on

the recipe too). I had found HP soaps tended to be a bit on the spoungy side

unless they sit for several weeks as well. This includes HP soap that I had

experimented as well as other peoples so I am not putting anybodys soap

down. FWIW.

These are just my experiences....

CAthy, also, Welcome to the group! Where abouts do you live in our great

state of NY?

I dont know about shea and cocoa butters going rancid in MP. Maybe some of

our MPers on this list can answer that. I am a CPer at heart.

Shaye

The Soap Shack

www.mysoapshack.com

Our members map

http://.homestead.com/locations.html

Our Message Board

http://www.voy.com/21568/

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http://soapwerks.com/martinworld.htm

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[Guest guest]

I brought up discounting on the soapnuts list years ago and was quickly

given " the word " not to even mention it-I had a few sage soapers ;D give me

advice but I never heard of going to a 30% reduction-I only do a slight

reduction and will have to look into this.I know a certain amount is

mandatory for proper chemical processing to take place and you can discount

too much too.

Thanks

Deb

>

>

[Guest guest]

I love Nag Champa! I think it smells very " clean " .. like you would

expect a really good soap to smell! :-> It's good in lotion, too ...

- Ela

(000)___(000) Ela Heyn

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[Guest guest]

Welcome to you ! You will enjoy our little list of soapers. We do

alot of non-soap chatting so please feel free to interupt us with any

questions you may have. We are like a family here!

I am co-listmom with the owner of our list, Terri. We are both in

Baldwinsville.

I do mainly mp, but just started dabbling in cphp. I also do bath salts,

lotion, body sprays, bubble bath, and lotion bars.

Again, welcome!

Colleen

Country Meadow Creations

[Guest guest]

Hi !

Welcome to the list.

I'm Terri (List Mom1) Up here in Baldwinsville near Colleen. We're a

pretty relaxed group... feel free to ask questions... talk about kids...

the weather or whatever you feel like here. We're more like a group of

friends.

To answer your question ... hmmmm... it's a toughy... nothing is really

sticking out in my head other than the types of scents that folks are

using. I've noticed a swing twards the designer types... like Bath and

Body Works. Me though I wouldn't know what they smell like cause I've

never been to a Bath and Body Works! LOL( Bad I know cause we have that

HUGE Mall here.... which I hate going to and I only live about 7 miles

from it)

Again Welcome to the list

Terri

[Guest guest]

hi lyn

patti in binghamton

[Guest guest]

lolol.....i go through cortland almost 4 times a week.....my mom is in syracause.....lol...i am on the north side i guess of binghamton....chenango bridge ?? castle creek area

[Guest guest]

> hi lyn

>

> patti in binghamton

patti-hello there. i am just so all alone tonight. i ususally like

a quiet house but not tonight i guess.

son is out with friends and hubby had to go to Conn. for a business

trip.

i don't know Binghamton very well. i just know how to get to the

Vestal Wal-Mart.

lyn

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I certainly remember you and I am so glad to hear that

you and your family are doing so much better. I

aplaud your willingness to come back and share your

success with us and your willingness to help as you

have been helped by our list community.

Take care.

Louis

--- Ron Simurdiak Family wrote:

> Hello - Many of you old timers may remember me. I

> haven't been a member for a while since I have been

> without a computer since last July.

> I have a son, Joe, who was diagnosed with OCD

> (severe) and tic disorder at the age of 7 1/2. He

> is now 10 1/2. He has had a large variety of

> obsessions but the one constant is with germs. He

> started out with Celexa. He outgrew the med or

> rather experienced med " poop out " after a year and

> a half. Since that time he has been on 112 mgs of

> Luvox - 50 in the AM and 62 in the evening.

> We live in rural, norther WI. and had a

> difficult time finding appropriate therapy. We

> ended up traveling to Madison, 230 miles one way, to

> a specialist in pediatric E and RP. She was so

> wonderful that when school started, and we were no

> longer able to make the commute, we continued the

> sessions over the phone.

> I just wanted everyone to know that Joe

> continues to do well (for about a year and a half

> now).

> We continue to work on issues if and when they come

> up and from time to time. We manage to keep the

> obsessions and compulsions small and controlable. We

> visit his therapist (whenever we know we are going

> to be in the area). He still has OCD and probably

> always will (unless that cure I've been praying for

> happens in his life time), but I know longer fear

> that it will control him (us).

> I remember some list members from months ago

> mentioning that they really knew things were getting

> better when they could begin to read books for

> pleasure again and think about other things than OCD

> and how their children were functioning. Well I am

> finally to that point and have been for almost a

> year now. I have had other interests and haven't

> felt the need to be so attached to the group as I

> used to be. I feel like I have a " normal " family

> life again. I think most people just drop off the

> list when their life becomes managable again, and

> fail to come back from time to time to be

> encouraging. But this group was TREMENDOUSLY

> helpful to me in a time of personal crisis and I

> hope I can be encouraging to others who are

> struggling now and in the future. To be

> continued..... in WI

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

, thank you for the update. It's so nice to read about

success at fighting OCD and getting back to a " normal " life - gives

us an incentive to keep working hard at it!

> Hello - Many of you old timers may remember me. I haven't been a

member for a while since I have been without a computer since last

July.

> I have a son, Joe, who was diagnosed with OCD (severe) and tic

disorder at the age of 7 1/2. He is now 10 1/2. He has had a large

variety of obsessions but the one constant is with germs. He

started out with Celexa. He outgrew the med or rather experienced

med " poop out " after a year and a half. Since that time he has been

on 112 mgs of Luvox - 50 in the AM and 62 in the evening.

> We live in rural, norther WI. and had a difficult time finding

appropriate therapy. We ended up traveling to Madison, 230 miles one

way, to a specialist in pediatric E and RP. She was so wonderful

that when school started, and we were no longer able to make the

commute, we continued the sessions over the phone.

> I just wanted everyone to know that Joe continues to do well

(for about a year and a half now).

> We continue to work on issues if and when they come up and from

time to time. We manage to keep the obsessions and compulsions small

and controlable. We visit his therapist (whenever we know we are

going to be in the area). He still has OCD and probably always will

(unless that cure I've been praying for happens in his life time),

but I know longer fear that it will control him (us).

> I remember some list members from months ago mentioning that

they really knew things were getting better when they could begin to

read books for pleasure again and think about other things than OCD

and how their children were functioning. Well I am finally to that

point and have been for almost a year now. I have had other

interests and haven't felt the need to be so attached to the group as

I used to be. I feel like I have a " normal " family life again. I

think most people just drop off the list when their life becomes

managable again, and fail to come back from time to time to be

encouraging. But this group was TREMENDOUSLY helpful to me in a time

of personal crisis and I hope I can be encouraging to others who are

struggling now and in the future. To be continued..... in

WI

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

So glad that Joe is doing well.

It sure is great to hear that you are enjoying life

without OCD running the show.

Keep us posted.

Vivian

--- Ron Simurdiak Family wrote:

> Hello - Many of you old timers may remember me. I

> haven't been a member for a while since I have been

> without a computer since last July.

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

> Hello , thank you so much for dropping back in to the list to let

> us know how well Joe is doing. I can't agree more when you say, with

> effective treatment OCD is no longer able to control the child or the

> family. The meds and therapy are such a blessing, they can level the

field

> so OCD is a nuisance rather than an evil presence dictating every detail

of

> daily life. Joe deserves a round of applause for working so hard for his

> recovery. :-)

>

> Take care,

> Kathy R. in Indiana

>

> ----- Original Message -----

>

>

> > Hello - Many of you old timers may remember me. I haven't been a

member

> for a while since I have been without a computer since last July.

> <snip>

> > I just wanted everyone to know that Joe continues to do well (for

> about a year and a half now).

> > We continue to work on issues if and when they come up and from time to

> time. We manage to keep the obsessions and compulsions small and

> controlable. We visit his therapist (whenever we know we are going to be

in

> the area). He still has OCD and probably always will (unless that cure

I've

> been praying for happens in his life time), but I know longer fear that it

> will control him (us).

> > I remember some list members from months ago mentioning that they

> really knew things were getting better when they could begin to read books

> for pleasure again and think about other things than OCD and how their

> children were functioning. Well I am finally to that point and have been

> for almost a year now. I have had other interests and haven't felt the

need

> to be so attached to the group as I used to be. I feel like I have a

> " normal " family life again. I think most people just drop off the list

> when their life becomes managable again, and fail to come back from time

to

> time to be encouraging. But this group was TREMENDOUSLY helpful to me in

a

> time of personal crisis and I hope I can be encouraging to others who are

> struggling now and in the future. To be continued..... in WI

>

>