Questions

[Guest guest]

Thanks Tonya - I knew that I had seen this somewhere. Liz, I'm

still checking on some of the other things that we discussed.

Amy

NCTFFCMH

>

> ---------------------------------

> Amy,

>

> OSEP's report to congress will have what you want in

> the Data tables

> http://www.ed.gov/offices/OSERS/OSEP/Products/OSEP2001AnlRpt/

>

> Tonya

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Tonya - I knew that I had seen this somewhere. Liz, I'm

still checking on some of the other things that we discussed.

Amy

NCTFFCMH

>

> ---------------------------------

> Amy,

>

> OSEP's report to congress will have what you want in

> the Data tables

> http://www.ed.gov/offices/OSERS/OSEP/Products/OSEP2001AnlRpt/

>

> Tonya

>

[Guest guest]

Have your son practice with M & M's or a similar non-threatening candy.

[Guest guest]

,

My son won't swallow pills either so we open the capsules and mix the contents

in his chocolate milk. The doctor also suggested stirring it into apple sauce,

yogurt, cereal or juice. Hope this helps until you can get him to swallow

pills.

questions

its been a while since I posted anything. I need help with 2 questions

1. what experience do people have with Auditory Training, with any of the

methods (Tomatis, Berrard etc.) any feedback, postitive, negative is

appreciated.

2. I need some suggestions to get my son to swallow pills, the dr. had

recently prescribed Strattera which comes in a capsule form, I'm taking out

the contents and mixing it with sugar, its really bitter and not the

recommended way to give the med.

thanks for your help

[Guest guest]

With Strattera, GOOD LUCK!! It is so bitter that my daughter would not take it

in any form. We have trouble with her taking pills too and the capsule is even

worse. We tried liquid form but they tried every flavor imaginable to hide the

bitter taste and NOTHING worked. We went so far as to make it into suppository

form. That did work and we were supposedly the first to try that form.

However, when we have to go to that extreme, my husband and I felt it just was

not worth fighting that battle. I just wish the drugs that were out there for

autistic children came in patch form. My father has various ailments and one of

his medications comes in a patch that he replaces every so often. Why can't

they do that for kid medications? I do not know much about making drugs but I

do know that my child does not take pills or any medications without a fight.

CL

Lubbock

[Guest guest]

With Strattera, GOOD LUCK!! It is so bitter that my daughter would not take it

in any form. We have trouble with her taking pills too and the capsule is even

worse. We tried liquid form but they tried every flavor imaginable to hide the

bitter taste and NOTHING worked. We went so far as to make it into suppository

form. That did work and we were supposedly the first to try that form.

However, when we have to go to that extreme, my husband and I felt it just was

not worth fighting that battle. I just wish the drugs that were out there for

autistic children came in patch form. My father has various ailments and one of

his medications comes in a patch that he replaces every so often. Why can't

they do that for kid medications? I do not know much about making drugs but I

do know that my child does not take pills or any medications without a fight.

CL

Lubbock

[Guest guest]

I just gave my 4-year-old daughter Adderall XR for the first time this

morning. I *tried* giving it to her yesterday -- opened the capsule and

sprinkled the contents into some softened vanilla ice cream -- but she must

have been suspicious, and wouldn't have anything to do with it. So, this

morning I bought some chocolate flavored whipped cream, squirted a little

onto a spoon, poured the capsule contents on top of that, then squirted a

little more whipped cream on top of that. She still gave me a huge fight,

but she did finally swallow it, after I bribed her with a toy truck I'd put

away for " emergencies. " I'm hoping that she'll take it w/o a fight tomorrow

morning -- I know she must have liked the whipped cream (who wouldn't?),

but she's always downright hostile toward any food she hasn't eaten before.

That would be almost *all* foods. :-)

I know that a lot of our kids are on special diets, so I guess the whipped

cream idea may not be too helpful for some. I just thought it was a perfect

" vehicle " for getting a time-released med down, though, since whipped cream

basically melts in your mouth -- no worries about the beads of medication

being chewed, thus releasing it all at once. Hope this might help someone.

Pecnik

[Guest guest]

I just gave my 4-year-old daughter Adderall XR for the first time this

morning. I *tried* giving it to her yesterday -- opened the capsule and

sprinkled the contents into some softened vanilla ice cream -- but she must

have been suspicious, and wouldn't have anything to do with it. So, this

morning I bought some chocolate flavored whipped cream, squirted a little

onto a spoon, poured the capsule contents on top of that, then squirted a

little more whipped cream on top of that. She still gave me a huge fight,

but she did finally swallow it, after I bribed her with a toy truck I'd put

away for " emergencies. " I'm hoping that she'll take it w/o a fight tomorrow

morning -- I know she must have liked the whipped cream (who wouldn't?),

but she's always downright hostile toward any food she hasn't eaten before.

That would be almost *all* foods. :-)

I know that a lot of our kids are on special diets, so I guess the whipped

cream idea may not be too helpful for some. I just thought it was a perfect

" vehicle " for getting a time-released med down, though, since whipped cream

basically melts in your mouth -- no worries about the beads of medication

being chewed, thus releasing it all at once. Hope this might help someone.

Pecnik

[Guest guest]

Regular Adderall pills are really tiny so if you have trouble getting the

time release granules down, you might try the regular ones first. They're so

tiny you could probably hide them in a spoon of something and they'd be

swallowed

whole unless your child is terribly tactile sensative.

Gaylen

[Guest guest]

Regular Adderall pills are really tiny so if you have trouble getting the

time release granules down, you might try the regular ones first. They're so

tiny you could probably hide them in a spoon of something and they'd be

swallowed

whole unless your child is terribly tactile sensative.

Gaylen

[Guest guest]

I found that my son swallowed his medicine better when we just gave it

to him straight, capsule pill or whatever. He doesn't seem to like being

tricked by mixing it in food. His nose must sniff it out! I make it all

business and tell him it's time for medication. The only thing I have

trouble giving him now is a liquid medication.

Vicki King

Re: questions

I just gave my 4-year-old daughter Adderall XR for the first time this

morning. I *tried* giving it to her yesterday -- opened the capsule and

sprinkled the contents into some softened vanilla ice cream -- but she

must

have been suspicious, and wouldn't have anything to do with it. So, this

morning I bought some chocolate flavored whipped cream, squirted a

little

onto a spoon, poured the capsule contents on top of that, then squirted

a

little more whipped cream on top of that. She still gave me a huge

fight,

but she did finally swallow it, after I bribed her with a toy truck I'd

put

away for " emergencies. " I'm hoping that she'll take it w/o a fight

tomorrow

morning -- I know she must have liked the whipped cream (who

wouldn't?),

but she's always downright hostile toward any food she hasn't eaten

before.

That would be almost *all* foods. :-)

I know that a lot of our kids are on special diets, so I guess the

whipped

cream idea may not be too helpful for some. I just thought it was a

perfect

" vehicle " for getting a time-released med down, though, since whipped

cream

basically melts in your mouth -- no worries about the beads of

medication

being chewed, thus releasing it all at once. Hope this might help

someone.

Pecnik

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[Guest guest]

I found that my son swallowed his medicine better when we just gave it

to him straight, capsule pill or whatever. He doesn't seem to like being

tricked by mixing it in food. His nose must sniff it out! I make it all

business and tell him it's time for medication. The only thing I have

trouble giving him now is a liquid medication.

Vicki King

Re: questions

I just gave my 4-year-old daughter Adderall XR for the first time this

morning. I *tried* giving it to her yesterday -- opened the capsule and

sprinkled the contents into some softened vanilla ice cream -- but she

must

have been suspicious, and wouldn't have anything to do with it. So, this

morning I bought some chocolate flavored whipped cream, squirted a

little

onto a spoon, poured the capsule contents on top of that, then squirted

a

little more whipped cream on top of that. She still gave me a huge

fight,

but she did finally swallow it, after I bribed her with a toy truck I'd

put

away for " emergencies. " I'm hoping that she'll take it w/o a fight

tomorrow

morning -- I know she must have liked the whipped cream (who

wouldn't?),

but she's always downright hostile toward any food she hasn't eaten

before.

That would be almost *all* foods. :-)

I know that a lot of our kids are on special diets, so I guess the

whipped

cream idea may not be too helpful for some. I just thought it was a

perfect

" vehicle " for getting a time-released med down, though, since whipped

cream

basically melts in your mouth -- no worries about the beads of

medication

being chewed, thus releasing it all at once. Hope this might help

someone.

Pecnik

Unlocking Autism

www.UnlockingAutism.org

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child with AUTISM.

Schafer Autism Report

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[Guest guest]

I don't have a lot of experience with pills and my kid (thankfully). For

all of you having pill problems, have you considered going to a compounding

pharmacy to make your prescription in a liquid? They can do that. That's

what I've done in the past.

Your major drug store chains and grocery store pharmacies are not

compounding. You'll have to call around and find one in your area.

Re: questions

I just gave my 4-year-old daughter Adderall XR for the first time this

morning. I *tried* giving it to her yesterday -- opened the capsule and

sprinkled the contents into some softened vanilla ice cream -- but she

must

have been suspicious, and wouldn't have anything to do with it. So, this

morning I bought some chocolate flavored whipped cream, squirted a

little

onto a spoon, poured the capsule contents on top of that, then squirted

a

little more whipped cream on top of that. She still gave me a huge

fight,

but she did finally swallow it, after I bribed her with a toy truck I'd

put

away for " emergencies. " I'm hoping that she'll take it w/o a fight

tomorrow

morning -- I know she must have liked the whipped cream (who

wouldn't?),

but she's always downright hostile toward any food she hasn't eaten

before.

That would be almost *all* foods. :-)

I know that a lot of our kids are on special diets, so I guess the

whipped

cream idea may not be too helpful for some. I just thought it was a

perfect

" vehicle " for getting a time-released med down, though, since whipped

cream

basically melts in your mouth -- no worries about the beads of

medication

being chewed, thus releasing it all at once. Hope this might help

someone.

Pecnik

Unlocking Autism

www.UnlockingAutism.org

Autism-Awareness-Action

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child with AUTISM.

Schafer Autism Report

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[Guest guest]

I don't have a lot of experience with pills and my kid (thankfully). For

all of you having pill problems, have you considered going to a compounding

pharmacy to make your prescription in a liquid? They can do that. That's

what I've done in the past.

Your major drug store chains and grocery store pharmacies are not

compounding. You'll have to call around and find one in your area.

Re: questions

I just gave my 4-year-old daughter Adderall XR for the first time this

morning. I *tried* giving it to her yesterday -- opened the capsule and

sprinkled the contents into some softened vanilla ice cream -- but she

must

have been suspicious, and wouldn't have anything to do with it. So, this

morning I bought some chocolate flavored whipped cream, squirted a

little

onto a spoon, poured the capsule contents on top of that, then squirted

a

little more whipped cream on top of that. She still gave me a huge

fight,

but she did finally swallow it, after I bribed her with a toy truck I'd

put

away for " emergencies. " I'm hoping that she'll take it w/o a fight

tomorrow

morning -- I know she must have liked the whipped cream (who

wouldn't?),

but she's always downright hostile toward any food she hasn't eaten

before.

That would be almost *all* foods. :-)

I know that a lot of our kids are on special diets, so I guess the

whipped

cream idea may not be too helpful for some. I just thought it was a

perfect

" vehicle " for getting a time-released med down, though, since whipped

cream

basically melts in your mouth -- no worries about the beads of

medication

being chewed, thus releasing it all at once. Hope this might help

someone.

Pecnik

Unlocking Autism

www.UnlockingAutism.org

Autism-Awareness-Action

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child with AUTISM.

Schafer Autism Report

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[Guest guest]

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hey ,

what are your goals for this challenge?!!!

In , shelley9621@a... wrote:

> Hi... I introduced myself last week (thyroid/soy question)..

Today is W2D1

> and with the exercise part of things I'm doing pretty okay -- I'm

making it

> through the cardio, and doing UB and LB workouts fairly well...

>

> BUT... I can't get the hang of this eating! How do you squeeze

in all

> those meals? Being anal retentive, can anyone give me an example

of what their

> daily totals of proteins, carbs and fat looks like from Fit Day or

Life Form?

>

> I've been lurking for a week here... seems like a fun group of

women! I hope

> to delurk a little more as I gain a little more confidence...

>

> Thanks in advance...

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I try not to count calories so I'm not sure what my ratios are. But a

typical day for me looks like:

Homemade turkey sauasage, tomato, oatmeal on the side

Chicken, barley, tomato

Lemon Snack Griddle Cake or protein pancake

Turkey or extra lean beef " chili " (or cooked with tomato, corn, black

beans)

Chicken, brown rice, salad or in the summer salad with egg/egg whites

fruit

Protein shake

Colleen

> Hi... I introduced myself last week (thyroid/soy question)..

Today is W2D1

> and with the exercise part of things I'm doing pretty okay -- I'm

making it

> through the cardio, and doing UB and LB workouts fairly well...

>

> BUT... I can't get the hang of this eating! How do you squeeze

in all

> those meals? Being anal retentive, can anyone give me an example

of what their

> daily totals of proteins, carbs and fat looks like from Fit Day or

Life Form?

>

> I've been lurking for a week here... seems like a fun group of

women! I hope

> to delurk a little more as I gain a little more confidence...

>

> Thanks in advance...

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey

I am pretty new to the group too, Welcome. I work out early in the

morning and have a shake while I get ready for work as my first meal

and my last meal is usually a shake too. Here is what I am having

today...

m1-- Strawberry pinapple protein shake (Simply Protien, H2O, and

frozen fruit)

m2-- oatmeal with protein powder (my stomach hurt so I didn't eat

too much)

m3-- ham sandwich with fresh veggies (I love the crunch)

m4-- 2grilled chicken strips, baked potatoe with a little cottage

cheese (it is awesome)

m5-- 3/4c. kashi go lean cereal w/ 1/2c. ff milk and eggs (3whites,

1 whole)(this is my favorite meal, it is tasty and filling)

m6-- shake (usually chocolate at night, like dessert)

I hope this helps, I dont know the exact amounts of Pro/ Carb/ Cal

but they are all fairly equal, especially M5. Welcome to the group,

you will love it.

Smile,

Katy

> Hi... I introduced myself last week (thyroid/soy question)..

Today is W2D1

> and with the exercise part of things I'm doing pretty okay -- I'm

making it

> through the cardio, and doing UB and LB workouts fairly well...

>

> BUT... I can't get the hang of this eating! How do you squeeze

in all

> those meals? Being anal retentive, can anyone give me an example

of what their

> daily totals of proteins, carbs and fat looks like from Fit Day or

Life Form?

>

> I've been lurking for a week here... seems like a fun group of

women! I hope

> to delurk a little more as I gain a little more confidence...

>

> Thanks in advance...

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Begin with breakfast and from there have a meal about every 2.5-3

hours. By bedtime it usually works out to six meals. I try to average

about 150 grams of protein per day(probably too much for a beginner-

shoot for 1 gram per pound of lean mass) and the same number of carbs.

A sure bet is about 20-25 grams of protein per meal and the same

carbs and you can't go wrong. After you've done the meal thing for a

while it will become so that you don't have to think about it so much.

Stasia

[Guest guest]

Hi Caroline.. lol = laugh out loud..

take care.. ask anything you need to be well friend

Kelley in Colorado

[Guest guest]

I don't have any real answers on the rotator cuff other than don't do anything

that hurts. Watch out for anything that would cause you to put your arms

overhead, like shoulder presses and lat pull downs. Those will mess you up for

sure.

The Judo doesn't replace any portion of the BFL workout. It's bonus points. Lots

of people doing BFL still teach aerobics, train for triathlons, play hockey,

take martial arts. You would still want to do the 20 minutes of intense

intervals. The benefits of interval training are unique. Nothing else will

improve your speed and endurance or ramp up your fat loss to that degree. It

will boost your fitness level for Judo and help you achieve more dramatic

results on your BFL challenge.

Questions

I'm sure these questions have been asked in one form or another

before, but here goes.

I just found out I have a small tear in my rotator? cuff (in my

shoulder) I'm sure someone else has had this happen. Not bad, but it

can certainly hurt like hell! Anyway, how do you handle UBWO? What

types of exercise do you leave out? I don't want to stop all together

but I don't want to make it worse either.

Other question: I do Judo twice a week, about 1 1/2 to 2 hours. Would

you put this under cardio workout? My first inclination is to do that,

although it's an all over muscle workout as well :-) But I just want

opinions.

Thank you in advance for your help everyone.

Kim

[Guest guest]

Kim,

Your rotator cuff muscles are what you use to rotate your arm at the

shoulder. They also are very important in keeping your shoulder

from dislocating. You don't want to do anything that might injur

your rotator cuff further. These injuries are very painful and

difficult to " fix " completely. It would be easy to reinjure, and

can end in surgery. I would talk to your doctor about getting

physical therapy to strengthen those muscles. Often this can be

pretty successful.

Just my 2 cents

-- In , " Kim " <kparker@n...>

wrote:

> I'm sure these questions have been asked in one form or another

> before, but here goes.

>

> I just found out I have a small tear in my rotator? cuff (in my

> shoulder) I'm sure someone else has had this happen. Not bad, but

it

> can certainly hurt like hell! Anyway, how do you handle UBWO? What

> types of exercise do you leave out? I don't want to stop all

together

> but I don't want to make it worse either.

>

> Other question: I do Judo twice a week, about 1 1/2 to 2 hours.

Would

> you put this under cardio workout? My first inclination is to do

that,

> although it's an all over muscle workout as well :-) But I just

want

> opinions.

>

> Thank you in advance for your help everyone.

>

> Kim

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> I don't have any real answers on the rotator cuff other

> than don't do anything that hurts.

I know I sound like a moron for asking here instead of my

dr. but it was a little hard to get info out of her. The

" don't do stuff that hurts " advise is probably the best

advice I could have gotten :-)

> The Judo doesn't replace any portion of the BFL workout.

I kind of figured, but I thought I'd ask anyway.

Thanks everyone for your help.

Kim

[Guest guest]

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> <tt>

> I've been having shoulder problems for a while. How do you

> know whether<BR> what you've

> hurt/pulled/torn/strained/generally made unhappy is

> your<BR> rotator cuff or something else?<BR>

Went to dr. and that's what she said. She said it wasn't a

full thickness tear and that it would heal itself with rest

and NSAIDs. She didn't say anything about quitting Judo or

workouts completely...just to take a week off, which I did.

My first reaction was just to avoid doing anything that's

painful but I also don't want surgery or anything, so I

wanted to make sure that was enough. Sounds to me like it

is.

Thanks so much for the help.

Kim

[Guest guest]

You do have the right to ask other diagnosis in the room in New York state anyways. They can not tell you which child is what only the "environment"

[Guest guest]

You can ask what type of classroom it is, but not the diagnosis of the

children in it(would you want anyone to be able to ask about your own

child?)

What you are seeing in your own son is he is picking up behaviors, and

it could be part of his own personal growth.

My son is twelve and has high functioning autism(one psychologist

diagnosed him as Aspergers)and he presents differently at different

times. Sometimes he just seems quiet, sometimes ADHD like, other times

he is very typical acting and you wouldn't know he has autism for

short periods of time. I have seen him change gradually over the years

and he is giving more eye contact and having fuller

conversations(higher level thinking, etc.)just in the last couple of

years. It is amazing to me to watch this happen. It sounds like your

son is doing the same thing, that from being exposed to different

environments, he is learning new ways of interacting and picking up

behaviors. What you have to look for is consistency...is he acting

ADHD all of the time, or just sometimes? Was he acting that way

because his friend does and he wanted to be like his friend, or was

he picking up the behavior at school and thinks that is how you

interact? You have to look at:where does it happen?(school, home, only

with certain people)you have to look at frequency(does it once in a

while, every minute or does it once and never again)and duration(does

it all day long, does it for five minutes and quits), etc. Then you

figure out how to address it...is it behavior you can distract him

from by giving him something to do that is incompatible with that

behavior(instead of picking his nose, you have him play with playdoh

and keep both hands on it)...do you ignore it(something you know he is

doing only for attention like screaming)or do you address it directly

with negative reinforcement(he has been screaming for 15 minutes so he

goes to timeout for a minute for each year of age and if he gets

quiet gets to get up immediately)...there is a lot to figuring out

behavior, and if you document it, it is easier to figure out a

strategy to address it and try to be consistent(the hardest thing in

the world!!! Good luck, hang in there! Sally