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Fran: When we were in the process of diagnosing with OCD,the

psychiatrist wanted to see a pediatric neurologist to rule

out seizure disorder. I ended up taking her to a pediatric

neurologist who specializes in behavioral problems. He used an EEG

to not only rule out seizure disorders, but also to diagnose the

OCD. Apparently people with OCD show a certain overactivity when

exposed to flashing lights in a certain part of their brain. I don't

think many neurologists do this--I think it may be somewhat

controversial, particularly if used as a single tool to diagnose or

rule out OCD. That being said, it sure is nice to be able to tell

people who are constantly bombarding me with questions like: So how

do you really know she has OCD, she's only 5 years old, don't all

kids act like that? BLAH BLAH BLAH.... " But you see, we had brain

tests done at the neurologist which confirms she has OCD. " People

shut up when you tell them that for some reason. The ignorance of

it all! Guess some people won't believe you until a MACHINE confirms

it.

By the way, I'm pretty sure that OCD is not tranferred specifically

through the mother--And I think I read if both parents have it, the

chance of offspring having OCD is around %50. 1 in 200 children have

OCD (diagnosed)....and the most common mental illness in children

behind depression and ADHD.

Take care,

Stephany

people

> > Hi Joni,

> > I recently took my son to a neurologist, by my request,

> because I

> > guess I wanted to exhaust all possiblities, although my son has

ocd,

> beyond a

> > doubt. The neuro did a basic, neurological exam and said he

found

> nothing to

> > warrant any further testing. The end....

> > I, too, would like to know whether or not further

testing

> is a good

> > idea. Would a CT scan be advisable....should they have an EEG?

I'm

> not sure

> > what we would exactly be looking for, but my feeling is that if

we

> are going

> > to be putting our children on all these very powerful

medications,

> we owe it

> > to them first to " exhaust all possibilities " .

> > Fran

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Sorry but i have never used this...

Kim

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does anyone use wsp Moisturizing Mist ???? i seem to be having a problem with it..... any help would be appreciated thanks for your time patti Our members maphttp://.homestead.com/locations.htmlOur Message Boardhttp://www.voy.com/21568/Check out these great Molds!!http://soapwerks.com/martinworld.htmMember Kae's Site... Awesome oil Prices!http://www.olivetreesoaps.com/All posts to this list are copyrighted by post author. They may NOT be forwarded, copied, or used in anyway without the permission of the post author with the exception of answering posts to this list. Posts are personal opinions only.

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patti-is this something you made yourself or bought and scented? Maybe we can help out if you can tell us more-

Deb

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i lovvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvve tonys scents...i really do....i really wanted to use his love spell and dragons blood for this mist .....and neither worked...it is beginning to look like only......wholesalesupplieplus fo's work..and that isnt good news for me lol

thanks soo much for your help

patti

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do you use bc's for a body splash ????? and have you used other co's scents with this base ????? i use bc lotion also.....

thanks sooooooooooooooooo much for any info you can give me

patti

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i have been thinking the same thing.....hmmmmmmmmmmm

i dont think any of the other scent companyies i have been dealing with.....are a poor grade of scent...soo.....whooooooooo knows...i am making some right now..and keeping my fingers crossed lolol

patti

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i just ordered about 20 different scent from tradewinds....god i hope those work....they havent come in yet......yikesssssssssssss

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for wsp Soapmaking | Candlemaking | Soap & Candle Making Supply Products - it is 15.95 a gal.....but i have to tell you....i dont recommend this product til they can explain this PH problem they told me about.....it works with some scents..and some scents it doesnt...and you dont know til you try......they told me ..it is forulated to their scents...but some of their scents dont work....and they told me it was a ph problem..i asked if they could tell me...which ones work...? and they said...it is a hit and miss...and i have to try them myself....i was on the phone with them a few differnt times....i really want a body splash but i used a whole gal of this....and not alot of scents work......not even some of theirs......

hope this helps....

patti

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hmmmm this is a far fetched idea (thinking out loud here) and I mean nothing

against wsp, but maybe their spray is formulated to work with only their

scents. I don't think they would do that... they are a great company and

I've never had any problems with any of their products, but it would tend

to make a person go "hmmmm" if only their scents mixed with their base. On

the other had it's a great marketing idea if thats how they want their base

to be used! lol

Terri... who is making soap today if it's the last thing she does!

itspatti5@... wrote:

i lovvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvve tonys scents...i really do....i really wanted

to use his love spell and dragons blood for this mist .....and neither worked...it

is beginning to look like only......wholesalesupplieplus fo's work..and that

isnt good news for me lol

thanks soo much for your help

patti

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I've never used their spray as a slash... never really thought about

doing that! I don't see why it wouldn't. I use a full range of

difference co's for my FO's in my sprays... Lebermuth, Harbin, Shaw

Mudge, Tradewinds and EO's from Now company.

Terri

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WSP=Whole Sale Supplies Plus

http://www.wholesalesuppliesplus.com

Bob & Deb wrote:

What is WSP?

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Tell me about this product!! sounds interesting. I have had a lot of folks

ask me to make a shampoo too-anyone have one to rec.?

DEb

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gee-wouldn't the sea salt dry your hair out? My friends on the coast always

wash it out after swimming as they have told me the salt ruins their hair?

They all have showers right at their doors. hhhmmm

Deb

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i have to admit..i baled lolol....i used up all of my wsp gal on tests soo someone suggested unity bath splash.....i called her and she is sending me out a gal ...but said i had to be real careful with the amount of fo's i use....but she didnt know of anyone having any trouble with re base...sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wish me luck.......

thanks to everyone for there help.....

patti

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I thought so too, but there are a ton of botanical extracts in there

that must defeat the drying of the sea salt... plus it has collagen in

it. I have thin hair and conditioners just weigh it down.... I use the

spray... it gets rid of the tangles and I don't have limp hair.

Terri

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In a message dated 11/13/01 5:03:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,

countrymeadowcreations@... writes:

<< I also use Bittercreek's bases (lotion, body spray, and bubble bath) >>

I use Bittercreek as well. This week I made up 5 gallons of lotion but had a

bit of trouble mixing in the scents (Sweetcakes). They " took " just fine but

were not distributed evenly. How does everyone do it?

Thanks,

lizz

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I make my lotion in 4 and 8 cups increments.. I have never had any trouble blending my scents into the lotion....

if i can help in any way...yell

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Thanks, Patti. Guess I should explain that I was too lazy to empty the

gallon out and then add the scent. I just dumped it into the gallon bottle

and shook. Then I used a loop thing attached to the end of a drill to stir.

Still not all distributed.

HELP!

Lizz

P.S. If I dump it out won't that introduce germs, molds, etc. into the

lotion. I don't want to spoil a whole gallon..

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Hmmmmmm that is a good point....what I do is...dump it into a large glass measuring bowl until it reads ...8 cups....and then I add my scent and color into it...and stir until it is nice and mixed.....and then..i put it into individual bottles....

i dont belive that putting it into a glass bowl could harm the lotion...

i love to answer questions.....god knows i ask enough of my own..it feels good when i can answer...i feel like a little girl saying....ooooh oohhh i know the answer lololol

ask any time i will try and help

patti

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I found a great funnel last weekend..that has a small opening...it fits right into my bottles.....i used to use plastic bags..and squeeze it out...

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I'm behind on my email reading again, like that's a surprise! But I just wanted

to chime in that I also use Bittercreek's bases (lotion, body spray, and bubble

bath) and they take the fo's really well. I've used WSP, Tradewinds, Scent

Shack, without any problems.

HTH!

Colleen

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