New to the group

[Guest guest]

Hi, if you have delayed vaccines for a year, then just rediscuss the

issue with your husband when the time comes because you will most

likely see the difference with your child and that will be enough to

convince him.

My son is 18 months and has only had 4 vaccines at two months, but

besides those is completely unvaxed and has not been to the doctor

for a check up since he was 6 months. He had roseola right after his

first birthday, but went away within a few days with no medical

intervention. Other than that, nothing.

I have traveled with him many times within the U.S., as young as 4

months and he was perfectly fine. We too someday will travel to

India and Europe, but I am not at all concerned about his vax

status. I think in places like India it is important to drink only

bottled water and no raw veggies to avoid stomach issues.

The more time that passes the more you will feel comfortable with

your decision. Good Luck.

Vida

>

> Hi: I am new to the group and am excited to find support. I feel

like I am alone among my friends and family to even question the

issue of vaccines in children. I have read Neil Z. ,

Cave and numerous other books and websites on the issues and am

leaning towards not vaccinating. However, I am not sure my DH would

join me in the bandwagon. We have a 3 month old that we have delayed

vaccinations for a year till we research this further. He has already

seen Dr.Teripenny (sp) video. My question to this group is

> 1. How many of you have children that have never been vaccinated

and are still healthy??

> 2. We have family living all over the world including India,

Australia, Europe and China! If we travel to visit them, should we

consider vaccinations and how many people in this group have

travelled over the world without vaccinating their children??

>

> Thanks for all your respo.....

> ........

>

[Guest guest]

I have noticed that 's cycle also gets thrown off by other illnesses.  She

has a cold right now (our whole family does) and she is currently a week late

for her fever.  No fever with the cold and she seems OK except for a little

congestion and coughing so we are not complaining.

________________________________

From: Stacey <safokken@...>

Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 10:11:38 PM

Subject: Re:New to the group

Hi Amy,

I don't get to post too often but yours caught my eye. Teagan, age 2, just had

her follow up with her infectious disease doc to confirm her and he was

amazed that her cycles were to the day. like many doctors, he is still learning

about this syndrome as well. He, along with Teagan's ENT, said she could not

have her tonsils out until age 3 as well. She is only 23 pounds. She had tubes

put in last Jan after 9 mo of nonstop ear infections. she has not had another

but we initially missed because she continued to have colds so we thought.

She seems to get them right before or right after her cycle. I assumed it meant

her immune system lowered during that time. So in other words, I'm surprised

your Janna has frequent sinus infections.

On another note, Teagan who has been cycling since at least June, exactly every

three weeks beginning on Thurs., missed this cycle for some reason. She was

suppose to start prednisone (which we were scared to do) and apparently she

didn't want to take it because the fever never popped up on Thurs. It is now Sat

and she is acting fine. She always complains of head pain the night before an

episode and so far no pain. She did have a cold last week like with a low fever

of 100 which i know was not but I was wondering if it could have thrown

her cycle off. so now we are just waiting with anticipation and wondering if and

when it will be back.

Good luck with your little peanut, she sounds about the same size as mine!

Stacey

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

[Guest guest]

I have noticed that 's cycle also gets thrown off by other illnesses.  She

has a cold right now (our whole family does) and she is currently a week late

for her fever.  No fever with the cold and she seems OK except for a little

congestion and coughing so we are not complaining.

________________________________

From: Stacey <safokken@...>

Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 10:11:38 PM

Subject: Re:New to the group

Hi Amy,

I don't get to post too often but yours caught my eye. Teagan, age 2, just had

her follow up with her infectious disease doc to confirm her and he was

amazed that her cycles were to the day. like many doctors, he is still learning

about this syndrome as well. He, along with Teagan's ENT, said she could not

have her tonsils out until age 3 as well. She is only 23 pounds. She had tubes

put in last Jan after 9 mo of nonstop ear infections. she has not had another

but we initially missed because she continued to have colds so we thought.

She seems to get them right before or right after her cycle. I assumed it meant

her immune system lowered during that time. So in other words, I'm surprised

your Janna has frequent sinus infections.

On another note, Teagan who has been cycling since at least June, exactly every

three weeks beginning on Thurs., missed this cycle for some reason. She was

suppose to start prednisone (which we were scared to do) and apparently she

didn't want to take it because the fever never popped up on Thurs. It is now Sat

and she is acting fine. She always complains of head pain the night before an

episode and so far no pain. She did have a cold last week like with a low fever

of 100 which i know was not but I was wondering if it could have thrown

her cycle off. so now we are just waiting with anticipation and wondering if and

when it will be back.

Good luck with your little peanut, she sounds about the same size as mine!

Stacey

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

[Guest guest]

Thank you for all your support and information! I have passed all the emails to

my husband and we will be researching more of this for the next year. I didn't

mean to offend some people by implying that non-vaccinated kids are not healthy.

I was only trying to show my husband that there are several kids in this group

that have not been vaccinated and are doing fine/better than kids that are

vaccinated. It is a little scary when you have a 3 month old at home and

everybody around you claims that you are putting their lives in danger!! Anybody

else who can contribute stories about their non-vaccinated kids would be great -

the larger the number, the better I would be able to convince him. Thanks again

> From: Vida Khan <vidamarino@...>

> Subject: Re: New to the group

> Vaccinations

> Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 9:35 AM

> Hi, if you have delayed vaccines for a year, then just

> rediscuss the

> issue with your husband when the time comes because you

> will most

> likely see the difference with your child and that will be

> enough to

> convince him.

> My son is 18 months and has only had 4 vaccines at two

> months, but

> besides those is completely unvaxed and has not been to the

> doctor

> for a check up since he was 6 months. He had roseola right

> after his

> first birthday, but went away within a few days with no

> medical

> intervention. Other than that, nothing.

> I have traveled with him many times within the U.S., as

> young as 4

> months and he was perfectly fine. We too someday will

> travel to

> India and Europe, but I am not at all concerned about his

> vax

> status. I think in places like India it is important to

> drink only

> bottled water and no raw veggies to avoid stomach issues.

> The more time that passes the more you will feel

> comfortable with

> your decision. Good Luck.

> Vida

>

>

>

> >

> > Hi: I am new to the group and am excited to find

> support. I feel

> like I am alone among my friends and family to even

> question the

> issue of vaccines in children. I have read Neil Z. ,

>

> Cave and numerous other books and websites on the issues

> and am

> leaning towards not vaccinating. However, I am not sure my

> DH would

> join me in the bandwagon. We have a 3 month old that we

> have delayed

> vaccinations for a year till we research this further. He

> has already

> seen Dr.Teripenny (sp) video. My question to this group is

>

> > 1. How many of you have children that have never been

> vaccinated

> and are still healthy??

> > 2. We have family living all over the world including

> India,

> Australia, Europe and China! If we travel to visit them,

> should we

> consider vaccinations and how many people in this group

> have

> travelled over the world without vaccinating their

> children??

> >

> > Thanks for all your respo.....

> > ........

> >

[Guest guest]

,

Welcome to our list. I remember being in your shoes. Luckily, my

husband has always backed me on the vax thing, but to be bombarded

with " your kid is gonna die if you don't vaccinate NOW " is very

wearing on a new parent. I applaud you for not succumbing to the hype

and deciding to seek the answers for yourself.

I have two boys who are completely unvaccinated. My oldest will be

three on December 12th, and he's only been to the doctor (My " primary

doctor " is my chiropractor, who sees my kids at least once a month.)

after he accidentally inhaled a pistachio on Christmas evening last

year. He ended up having to have that extracted via a scope down his

throat while under general anesthesia, from which he made a very quick

and complete recovery. Other than that and a sniffle here or there,

he's been very, very healthy. In fact, he recently came down with a

" bug " that was going around his preschool. Most of the kids in his

school had the bug for three weeks or longer. My son had it less than

four full days. His immune system is very strong because I haven't

allowed it to be overloaded with neurotoxins, poisons and viruses

(i.e. vaccines, antibiotics and drugs like Tylenol or Motrin), and he

eats real food instead of processed stuff. He did have Roseola when

he was 16 months old, which lasted right about 24 hours and was

uneventful. Quick fever followed by spots that were gone in a flash,

with no medical intervention at all. My new baby is six months old

now (time flies!) and also completely unvaccinated. He has come down

with the sniffles a couple of times when my son brought something home

from school. He gets over them quick. Neither child has ever had an

ear infection.

There are a couple of families in the neighborhood that my son visits

a lot. All of the kids (fully vaccinated) seem to be sick so much.

The six-year-old twins across the street seem to have strep or an ear

infection every month, and the boy who is three months younger than my

oldest was on a round of antibiotics EVERY MONTH for the first sixteen

months of his life. He isn't on antibiotics as much now, but he's

still sick a lot. Also, my husband's niece, who is the same age as my

oldest, is VERY, VERY sickly... she is fully vaccinated, and has also

been on round after round of antibiotics. She was on nine different

rounds of antibiotic by the time she was six months old, and has

recently been diagnosed with asthma and has had very severe allergies

and eczema for the last year or so. She was hospitalized for asthma

for the first time right after her two-year shots. At that time they

also put tubes in her ears because she was so inflamed that she wasn't

hearing properly. Poor girl... you can't look at her without her

blowing up like a puffer fish. She wheezes constantly in her sleep

and snores really loud... she's not even THREE yet!

It amazes me how far I've come in my vaccine education since joining

this list. Keep learning all that you can... knowledge is POWER! In

addition to the above, here is the introduction that I gave to this

group last February. This the story of why I decided to research the

vaccine issue:

Hi Everyone,

I've been a member of this list for approximately one week now. Sorry for

the delay in posting my introduction.

My name is and I am a SAHM to two-year-old Caleb, and I'm expecting my

2nd son () in late April or early May. Caleb home birthed... he was

born in a pool of warm water in my dining room after about 2.5 hours of

relatively easy labor (which I attribute to the water and HypnoBirthing). I

plan to do the same all over again with !

I am a non-vaxing mom, and my decision to not vaccinate came after intense

research into the subject when I was pregnant the first time. I had decided

to research the subject so intensely because of personal experiences (please

notice the " s " on that… plural).

1. When I was a child, I went in for a round of boosters (I believe I was

eight years old). I don't know WHAT boosters I was given, but it was several

of them. Within minutes of receiving the injections, I went in to

anaphylaxis. I remember thinking, even as a child, that something was wrong

with the shots, as the reaction was almost immediate, and very violent. I

was subsequently diagnosed with chronic asthma, after not having a single

respiratory problem in my life prior to those boosters.

2. Seven year ago, a friend of mine took her two-year-old, very energetic,

loving, lively son in for his routine checkup, where they gave him his

" shots " on-schedule. MMR was one of the many shots given that day. Within 12

hours, her son was having seizures, for which she called the doctor. The

doctor said this was a " normal " reaction, and told her to give him Tylenol

to help him " sleep it off " . Her son, as we all knew him, never came back to

her after that day. He's trapped, to this day, in a body damaged by the very

vaccines that were supposed to protect him. (Severe Autism)

3. Four years ago my best friend's seven-year-old daughter went in for her

routine checkup, wherein she was given a round of vaccines. I'm not sure of

everything she was given, except I know the chicken pox vaccine was in the

mix, as her father had never had the chicken pox and was being forced to

stay away from her for 21 days so he would not contract the disease. It was

several immunizations all at once, though. That night, she developed a

severe (105+) fever. When the doctor was called (they always tell you to

call, not come in, if a reaction occurs… WHY?? I'm guessing it's because

they know a reaction is probable and don't want their practice swarmed by

parents seeking more help for the children they just poisoned, but who

really knows.), his response was, again, that this is a normal reaction, and

told Mom to give her Tylenol to bring down the fever and help her " sleep it

off " . She progressively got worse over the next 24 hours, until Mom finally

took her to Urgent Care, where she started seizing and then went into coma.

An ambulance was called, and she was transported to the ER. She was

diagnosed with Type I diabetes… in essence, the vaccines had attacked and

killed her pancreas. The doctor said this is a " rare side effect " to

vaccine, but it DOES happen. I watched alongside my best friend as that

little girl lay in a coma for four days, helpless and near death, because of

the very vaccine that was designed to protect her. Today that

eleven-year-old girl has to inject herself with insulin five times a day…

4. A couple of months before my first son was born, another friend of mine

took her healthy two-month-old in for his recommended shots, to keep him on

schedule. He was injected, sent home, and within a few hours developed a

severe fever. Again, Mom was told to give him Tylenol. Within a couple of

hours of onset of fever, he started seizing. Doc was called again, and again

told Mom this is a " normal reaction " to the shots, and to just put him to

bed and let him " sleep it off " . Within 12 hours after receiving the

vaccination, 9-1-1 was called; their son was dead when the paramedics got

there. Not just harmed… DEAD. Diagnosis? SIDS -- but only after having to

endure a lengthy investigation for child abuse (specifically " Shaken Baby

Syndrome " ). They were not even allowed to grieve for their child in

peace... Interesting medical article, " Multiple Vaccinations and The

Shaken Baby Syndrome " ,

http://www.nvic.org/doctors_corner/ed_yazbak_shaken_baby_syndrome.htm.

ALL of these incidents either happened to me personally or to someone I was

very close with personally. It happened over a wide spread number of years,

and it made me go " hmm… what's wrong with this picture? " If incidents like

these was so prevalent among the few people I actually knew on a very

personal level at the time, then just how wide spread are these types of

things? So before my son was born, I decided to investigate the rate of

vaccine reaction myself, and was astonished. I am still amazed that

BigPharma is allowed to continue to use our children as guinea pigs,

injecting them with toxin after toxin, after toxin. And not only can they

do this legally, but they are given immunity from being held accountable

when a child is injured or dies.

After being ridiculed, shunned and called everything from irresponsible to

being accused of neglect by family, friends and the medical community, I've

made vaccine awareness my personal platform, and want to do anything I can

to bring the real truth to the forefront of everyone's minds. I will not be

bullied or swayed, and I'm excited to have found and be a part of this list,

where I hope to gain more knowledge with which to arm myself.

Peace, Light and Love,

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:25 PM, karen rao <discoveryoga@...> wrote:

> Thank you for all your support and information! I have passed all the emails

> to my husband and we will be researching more of this for the next year. I

> didn't mean to offend some people by implying that non-vaccinated kids are

> not healthy. I was only trying to show my husband that there are several

> kids in this group that have not been vaccinated and are doing fine/better

> than kids that are vaccinated. It is a little scary when you have a 3 month

> old at home and everybody around you claims that you are putting their lives

> in danger!! Anybody else who can contribute stories about their

> non-vaccinated kids would be great - the larger the number, the better I

> would be able to convince him. Thanks again

>

[Guest guest]

Well hello there newbie. I can tell youre a real dog lover. Hi 5^

At least the furkid got a treat. I am in Canada so I am sure someone closer

can send you some grains.

Maybe when you get them you can find some friends or neighbors to give extra

grains to and then you will always have some kefir buddies in cases

like.... " uh-the-dog-ate'em "

Better luck next time and welcome.

.....sharon

[Guest guest]

Where are you located? I have some extra. I just need to dry them out first.

I can send them to you for the cost of shipping.

Siobhan WIlson

Hello All,

�

My name is Jessie and I live in WI on a bison/buffalo ranch...

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the nice welcome!� Yes, I am a super doggie lover and animal lover

in general.� Canada, huh? Must be even colder up there!�

�

That is a great idea, I was just sharing the finished kefir with my mom....duh,

never thought to just give her some grains, too.� Also, did I see someone

mention freezing them??

Jessie

Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole. -- Caras

Until one has loved an animal a part of one's soul remains unawakened-Anatole

France

�

�

[Guest guest]

Hello Siobhan,

�

I emailed my address to you privately.� Thanks!!!

Jessie

[Guest guest]

Welcome aboard, Oneida, you will find that the sprouts you grow at home

will taste and look much better than the ones you buy in the store. Also,

the sprouts in the store were probably grow in water laced with

chemicals. When you grow your own you control how they are grown. Ask

questions, lots of people on this net with experience to give you

answers.

ew

New to the group

Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:20:44 -0000

Hi Everybody,

My family and I are new to the group and just wanted to say

hi and we are glad to have found this group. We are just getting into

sprouting. Have not tried it yet, but we did get some Clover Sprouts

from the store just to try. None of us (Husband,Daughter,son or

myself) have eaten sprouts before, we loved them. We look forward to

learning a lot from everybody and sharing anything that we learn

along

the way. Can't wait to start sprouting our own.

Thank you for your time,

Oneida

" Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit;

wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad. "

--

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[Guest guest]

Hi Kristi. Your feelings are normal. When your son does sit up and meet

all those gross motor skills we have our hearts set on, you will be much

more excited than your friends are when their children reach those

milestones. I know it's hard and a part of the grieving, but at some point,

you will be able to reach out and enjoy your friend's babies. One thing

that is important is that your friends are going to take your lead in how

they respond to you. While it's important to maintain your friendships, it

is also so important to develop new friendships with parents whose children

are close to 's age and have DS.

Do remember to take time for yourself- get your nails done, or something you

find fun. I'm glad you found us and welcome to the best support group

online for DS!!!

new to the group

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Kristi and I have two little

boys. I have a typical 4 year old () and a 5 month old () with DS.

I haven't really found a support group in my area and I am starting to feel

more isolated from my friends. A lot of my friends had babies around the

time my son, , was born. They are starting to do things, like sit up,

that he isn't close to doing yet and I'm just struggling with it.. I adore

my baby and I hate that I feel this way. I guess I'm just looking to be able

to talk to someone else who has been through this and see if you have any

suggestions on how to deal with it. We did not know he had DS until after he

was born, my prenatal screenings were normal while I was pregnant and I'm

only 28, I had no reason to suspect that it was even a possibility. Of

course I have since learned that none of that matters, but at the time it

was a shock. Overall, I feel like I am dealing with it well and

most days I do just fine. Right now the stress is just getting to me. If

anyone has any insight, I would appreciate it! Thank you!

Kristi

[Guest guest]

Hi Kristi,

Welcome to the group. I understand the feelings of isolation, but

this, too shall pass. We did not know (for sure) Sam had DS until he

was a few weeks old. My husband and I went through similar

feelings. WHEre are you living?

YOu will find great help, love and support here.

Again, welcome

Barbara Rizk - mom to Sam (3 ds), (9) and (11) wife to

Mark and living on the left coast of the USA in Portland, Oregon.

On Jan 30, 2009, at 6:29 PM, Kristi Duda wrote:

> Hi everyone,

> I just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Kristi and I have

> two little boys. I have a typical 4 year old () and a 5 month

> old () with DS. I haven't really found a support group in my

> area and I am starting to feel more isolated from my friends. A lot

> of my friends had babies around the time my son, , was born.

> They are starting to do things, like sit up, that he isn't close to

> doing yet and I'm just struggling with it. I adore my baby and I

> hate that I feel this way. I guess I'm just looking to be able to

> talk to someone else who has been through this and see if you have

> any suggestions on how to deal with it. We did not know he had DS

> until after he was born, my prenatal screenings were normal while I

> was pregnant and I'm only 28, I had no reason to suspect that it was

> even a possibility. Of course I have since learned that none of that

> matters, but at the time it was a shock. Overall, I feel like I am

> dealing with it well and

> most days I do just fine. Right now the stress is just getting to

> me. If anyone has any insight, I would appreciate it! Thank you!

>

> Kristi

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kristi,

Congratulations on the birth of your son. Remember the DS is only a very

small part of who he is, yes he will be a bit behind his typical peers but

not always. You just might find he will beat some of those kids at reaching

milestones. My son with DS walked at 18months my friends typical daughter

walked at 20 months, as did her sister. One thing I discovered, my other

kids where on the early side of the chart of doing most things, as was Trent

on the early side of the DS chart. The average child with DS will sit

roughly a month later than the average typical kid - hope that helps.

Don't feel dishearten before you know it, he will be off to school and

achieving things in areas you would not have thought possible - okay he

will be behind in other areas and if anything like my son they are usually

things he doesn't have to worry about so why try. In saying that, that is a

very common way of thinking in my husband's family. Which brings to mind,

remember to look at both your family for traits that could be reflecting in

your son. I often remind people that Trent is - firstly a male, secondly a

Lymer male and thirdly a person with DS, the DS being a very small component

of his make-up. Trent is a very good sports person, again a bit of a

family trait - in his case the DS often kicks in - lack of concentration or

the can't be bothered gene and he will want to finish early.

As has suggested, find a group of other parents with children with

disabilities - they are much more fun and more relaxed - everyone is

happy and over the moon when one of the kids achieve anything - whereas in

other settings it can be a real 'look my kid is better than yours' type of

situation. It is still important to be a part of these groups to help you

with keeping up the needed work to keep your son on track though, also for

him to see and learn from his peers.

I have found this internet group, not only a wealth of information but great

support for all ages. I am also part of another group, (Australian based)

which I often feel out of - wrong age group and living in the wrong state.

All the best and remember also to have 'me' time on a regular basis.

Keep smiling

Jan, mother of Trent 24yo w/DS from the LandDownUnder

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of CSBC

Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 1:43 PM

; Kristi Duda

Subject: Re: new to the group

Hi Kristi. Your feelings are normal. When your son does sit up and meet

all those gross motor skills we have our hearts set on, you will be much

more excited than your friends are when their children reach those

milestones. I know it's hard and a part of the grieving, but at some point,

you will be able to reach out and enjoy your friend's babies. One thing

that is important is that your friends are going to take your lead in how

they respond to you. While it's important to maintain your friendships, it

is also so important to develop new friendships with parents whose children

are close to 's age and have DS.

Do remember to take time for yourself- get your nails done, or something you

find fun. I'm glad you found us and welcome to the best support group

online for DS!!!

new to the group

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Kristi and I have two little

boys. I have a typical 4 year old () and a 5 month old () with DS.

I haven't really found a support group in my area and I am starting to feel

more isolated from my friends. A lot of my friends had babies around the

time my son, , was born. They are starting to do things, like sit up,

that he isn't close to doing yet and I'm just struggling with it.. I adore

my baby and I hate that I feel this way. I guess I'm just looking to be able

to talk to someone else who has been through this and see if you have any

suggestions on how to deal with it. We did not know he had DS until after he

was born, my prenatal screenings were normal while I was pregnant and I'm

only 28, I had no reason to suspect that it was even a possibility. Of

course I have since learned that none of that matters, but at the time it

was a shock. Overall, I feel like I am dealing with it well and

most days I do just fine. Right now the stress is just getting to me. If

anyone has any insight, I would appreciate it! Thank you!

Kristi

[Guest guest]

Hi Kristi and welcome!

I remember those days. Although as new moms, we want to chart each

milestone along with the book and our friends (and as we did with older

siblings), it's hard you're not there at the same time. Unfortunately,

in the beginning there is a big focus on gross motor skills, which will

come, but more slowly. What I do know is that you make it to walking,

this really seems to diminish..... it's the pinnacle of " development

comparisons " for gross motor!

What I found was that people never quite know what to say, and

especially if you have friends with babies of similar ages, it's even

tougher, as they typically are very worried about making you feel bad,

so they don't say anything, which makes you feel bad :-) I found that

conversation starters that showed you acknowledged these differences

helped tremendously. For example, you could say " Oh , it looks like

Susie is starting to roll over... that's so exciting. Babies with Down

Syndrome typically don't roll over until x months, but we're watching

and think he'll be there soon " or something like that. I found

that although I was disappointed (in a way, sometimes) that

didn't " keep up " with her baby peers ('cuz let's face it, it's a mom

competition, not a baby one, LOL), the more I mentioned to others what

would do (and if I could, make a time reference) it helped

both me and the other person.... let's face it, not everyone is as

informed about DS as you are, so they might be wondering if he will ever

do these things (and yes, he will!)

Some days will be easier than others, but let me tell you, just like

your typical son, the time will fly by and you will wonder where that

sweet baby that stayed still went :-) I am wondering where my sweet,

baby went when I hear her say awful (but oh so age-appropriate)

things... like a typical tween! And I think, and for this, we had years

of speech therapy?

We too were surprised by 's diagnosis, as all our prenatal

testing was fine too. I am really thankful because I'm sure that any

genetecist or ob wouldn't have been able to share that she'd be included

in our neighborhood school, read and write pretty well, use the computer

better than all 4 of her grandparents, win games on the Wii that her

sister's aren't close to finishing (she's persistent, that's for sure)

and all the other neat things she CAN do. They wouldn't have been able

to tell us she'd have a great sense of humor, be the most compassionate

child in the house, have a way with all animals (even ones that bite

everyone else!), and like to sing Hannah Montana karaoke (but only in

her room, when she thinks no one can hear her, LOL.) You will discover

all the neat things your son will bring to your family, once he gets

past the " baby competition " :-)

Glad you found the group!

, mom to (13), (11 DS), and Sammy (9)

Kristi Duda wrote:

>

> Hi everyone,

> I just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Kristi and I have two

> little boys. I have a typical 4 year old () and a 5 month old

> () with DS. I haven't really found a support group in my area and

> I am starting to feel more isolated from my friends. A lot of my

> friends had babies around the time my son, , was born. They are

> starting to do things, like sit up, that he isn't close to doing yet

> and I'm just struggling with it. I adore my baby and I hate that I

> feel this way. I guess I'm just looking to be able to talk to someone

> else who has been through this and see if you have any suggestions on

> how to deal with it. We did not know he had DS until after he was

> born, my prenatal screenings were normal while I was pregnant and I'm

> only 28, I had no reason to suspect that it was even a possibility. Of

> course I have since learned that none of that matters, but at the time

> it was a shock. Overall, I feel like I am dealing with it well and

> most days I do just fine. Right now the stress is just getting to me.

> If anyone has any insight, I would appreciate it! Thank you!

>

> Kristi

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kristi,

I join the other members to welcome you to this group!  You will find a lot of

support, great ideas, as well as wise advice, here.  It has helped me a lot.

Bonnie, living in Belgium, Mom to Ana (16 yo  w/ds)

--- El sáb 31-ene-09, Barbara Rizk <rizk22@...> escribió:

De:: Barbara Rizk <rizk22@...>

Asunto: Re: new to the group

A: " Kristi Duda " <kristiduda@...>

Cc:

Fecha: sábado, 31 enero, 2009, 3:55 am

Hi Kristi,

Welcome to the group. I understand the feelings of isolation, but

this, too shall pass. We did not know (for sure) Sam had DS until he

was a few weeks old. My husband and I went through similar

feelings. WHEre are you living?

YOu will find great help, love and support here.

Again, welcome

Barbara Rizk - mom to Sam (3 ds), (9) and (11) wife to

Mark and living on the left coast of the USA in Portland, Oregon.

On Jan 30, 2009, at 6:29 PM, Kristi Duda wrote:

> Hi everyone,

> I just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Kristi and I have

> two little boys. I have a typical 4 year old () and a 5 month

> old () with DS. I haven't really found a support group in my

> area and I am starting to feel more isolated from my friends. A lot

> of my friends had babies around the time my son, , was born.

> They are starting to do things, like sit up, that he isn't close to

> doing yet and I'm just struggling with it. I adore my baby and I

> hate that I feel this way. I guess I'm just looking to be able to

> talk to someone else who has been through this and see if you have

> any suggestions on how to deal with it. We did not know he had DS

> until after he was born, my prenatal screenings were normal while I

> was pregnant and I'm only 28, I had no reason to suspect that it was

> even a possibility. Of course I have since learned that none of that

> matters, but at the time it was a shock. Overall, I feel like I am

> dealing with it well and

> most days I do just fine. Right now the stress is just getting to

> me. If anyone has any insight, I would appreciate it! Thank you!

>

> Kristi

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi EW,

          Thank you for the warm welcome. I just started sprouting some Quinoa 2

days ago. I can not wait until they are ready to eat.

Oneida

Welcome aboard, Oneida, you will find that the sprouts you grow at

home

will taste and look much better than the ones you buy in the store. Also,

the sprouts in the store were probably grow in water laced with

chemicals. When you grow your own you control how they are grown. Ask

questions, lots of people on this net with experience to give you

answers.

ew

 

[Guest guest]

On 2/4/09, scofield62001@... <scofield62001@...> wrote:

>

> Thank you for the warm welcome. I just started sprouting some Quinoa

2 days ago. I can not wait until they are ready to eat.

They're already ready. Quinoa only needs 12-24 hours sprouting time

after a short soak (half an hour to an hour).

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

>

>

> They're already ready. Quinoa only needs 12-24 hours sprouting time

> after a short soak (half an hour to an hour).

>

> Sparrow

Hi Sparrow,

I did not know that. Thank you for letting me know. Can we

eat the seeds that did not sprout?

Oneida

[Guest guest]

>

>

> They're already ready. Quinoa only needs 12-24 hours sprouting time

> after a short soak (half an hour to an hour).

>

> Sparrow

Hi Sparrow,

I did not know that. Thank you for letting me know. Can we

eat the seeds that did not sprout?

Oneida

[Guest guest]

On 2/4/09, scofield62001 <scofield62001@...> wrote:

>

> I did not know that. Thank you for letting me know. Can we

> eat the seeds that did not sprout?

Yes, the seeds will still have softened up and some may even have

germinated but not sent out a root. Quinoa sprouts aren't leafy like

many other sprouts. With many grains, you just sprout until you get

" little tails. "

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

On 2/4/09, scofield62001 <scofield62001@...> wrote:

>

> I did not know that. Thank you for letting me know. Can we

> eat the seeds that did not sprout?

Yes, the seeds will still have softened up and some may even have

germinated but not sent out a root. Quinoa sprouts aren't leafy like

many other sprouts. With many grains, you just sprout until you get

" little tails. "

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

> Yes, the seeds will still have softened up and some may even have

> germinated but not sent out a root. Quinoa sprouts aren't leafy like

> many other sprouts. With many grains, you just sprout until you get

> " little tails. "

>

> Sparrow

Thank you so much for all your help Sparrow. I think your name is

beautiful.

Oneida

[Guest guest]

> Yes, the seeds will still have softened up and some may even have

> germinated but not sent out a root. Quinoa sprouts aren't leafy like

> many other sprouts. With many grains, you just sprout until you get

> " little tails. "

>

> Sparrow

Thank you so much for all your help Sparrow. I think your name is

beautiful.

Oneida

[Guest guest]

On 2/4/09, scofield62001 <scofield62001@...> wrote:

>

> Thank you so much for all your help Sparrow. I think your name is

> beautiful.

>

> Oneida

You're welcome. And thank you; I think your name is beautiful, too!

Sparrow

[Guest guest]

>

>

> You're welcome. And thank you; I think your name is beautiful, too!

>

> Sparrow

I look forward to talking to you again. Have a great week.

Oneida

>