Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 In a message dated 08/11/2001 8:09:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bspyle@... writes: << My guess is that the school furnishes the crayons, paper, etc., >> Hahahahahahahahahaha!! None of the schools my kids have attended EVER furnished those supplies. They did however give you a list of the materials the kids needed to bring to school. Until high school, the list was sent out with class assignments, so you could have the supplies before school started. And we never had to buy more than one box of tissues per child per year. Cheryl in VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 In a message dated 08/11/2001 8:09:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bspyle@... writes: << My guess is that the school furnishes the crayons, paper, etc., >> Hahahahahahahahahaha!! None of the schools my kids have attended EVER furnished those supplies. They did however give you a list of the materials the kids needed to bring to school. Until high school, the list was sent out with class assignments, so you could have the supplies before school started. And we never had to buy more than one box of tissues per child per year. Cheryl in VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 In a message dated 08/11/2001 9:05:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bspyle@... writes: << We covered those " home " skills when I was in grade school. Has education changed that much.>> Must have because we never covered those skills and thanks to the Navy, I was in schools all over the country! Washing hands after using the bathroom was the only home skills we worked on in schools. <<MHMR is sending a skills trainer to our home to help me teach and how to take care of their home unassisted. Should I cancel? >> I guess if they didn't cover that in school and they aren't being taught at home, someone should show them. You're lucky MHMR is willing to teach them that ... is there a charge for it? Cheryl in VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 In a message dated 08/11/2001 9:05:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bspyle@... writes: << We covered those " home " skills when I was in grade school. Has education changed that much.>> Must have because we never covered those skills and thanks to the Navy, I was in schools all over the country! Washing hands after using the bathroom was the only home skills we worked on in schools. <<MHMR is sending a skills trainer to our home to help me teach and how to take care of their home unassisted. Should I cancel? >> I guess if they didn't cover that in school and they aren't being taught at home, someone should show them. You're lucky MHMR is willing to teach them that ... is there a charge for it? Cheryl in VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 In a message dated 08/11/2001 9:26:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, gboughton@... writes: << welll they will be needing the bandage that they sent me because I will put a hurt on them even if it is just MY LOUD VOICE hurting their ears!!!! >> Maybe you need to send a little kit of your own to the teacher Gail! ;-) Now what kind of suggestions could we come up with for you to use .... glasses to help them open their eyes and see Ted as an individual! Cheryl in VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 In a message dated 08/11/2001 9:26:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, gboughton@... writes: << welll they will be needing the bandage that they sent me because I will put a hurt on them even if it is just MY LOUD VOICE hurting their ears!!!! >> Maybe you need to send a little kit of your own to the teacher Gail! ;-) Now what kind of suggestions could we come up with for you to use .... glasses to help them open their eyes and see Ted as an individual! Cheryl in VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 I haven't read everything in the thread yet, but the key word here seems to be " need. " If brushing or dental health were an issue, I'd agree that mid day brushing was a good thing to do--Corey had to when her braces were on--lots of kids do with braces. That creates a need. But no need, no do, imo. Judi (moving down the posts) Re: school vent already! <<My guess is that the school furnishes the crayons, paper, etc., Gail. Why don't you ask them? And I would be thrilled to know my kid was going to be brushing his teeth after lunch at school! granny>> Hi Granny, I usually love your practical and down to earth advice. My guess is that all the other kids get a supply list with typical school materials on it. I have parented 2 other children that went to school and this is how it was. Brushing after lunch just isn't anything that thrills me. Ted doesn't have a cavity in his head and when I take him to the dentist, he has little or no plaque. I'd be WAAAY more thrilled it they wouldn't call me 3 times a day with ridiculous things to say! I am rather fussy about our toothbrushes and just knowing them and their inadequacies I'd just rather not have Ted working on hygiene DAILY as part of the curriculum That is just so lame. They are just so lame and it make me furious that just because Ted has Down syndrome that he is subjected to what THEY want to do with him. I am his mother and I am only sending him to school for some social situations that I cannot provide and academics. If the majority of other kids at school are not doing this, why does Ted have to do it??? I don't want that for him. It may be fine for someone that wants that or needs that but I just don't! Gail Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for messages to go to the sender of the message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 I haven't read everything in the thread yet, but the key word here seems to be " need. " If brushing or dental health were an issue, I'd agree that mid day brushing was a good thing to do--Corey had to when her braces were on--lots of kids do with braces. That creates a need. But no need, no do, imo. Judi (moving down the posts) Re: school vent already! <<My guess is that the school furnishes the crayons, paper, etc., Gail. Why don't you ask them? And I would be thrilled to know my kid was going to be brushing his teeth after lunch at school! granny>> Hi Granny, I usually love your practical and down to earth advice. My guess is that all the other kids get a supply list with typical school materials on it. I have parented 2 other children that went to school and this is how it was. Brushing after lunch just isn't anything that thrills me. Ted doesn't have a cavity in his head and when I take him to the dentist, he has little or no plaque. I'd be WAAAY more thrilled it they wouldn't call me 3 times a day with ridiculous things to say! I am rather fussy about our toothbrushes and just knowing them and their inadequacies I'd just rather not have Ted working on hygiene DAILY as part of the curriculum That is just so lame. They are just so lame and it make me furious that just because Ted has Down syndrome that he is subjected to what THEY want to do with him. I am his mother and I am only sending him to school for some social situations that I cannot provide and academics. If the majority of other kids at school are not doing this, why does Ted have to do it??? I don't want that for him. It may be fine for someone that wants that or needs that but I just don't! Gail Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for messages to go to the sender of the message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 I have to jump in here as an MH teacher. I must say in my 14 years of teaching MH most parents are NOT like the parents on this list--most are very unsure of what to do with their children, how to teach them anything (including self-help/daily living skills)...so the schools/MH classrooms have provided the service of teaching, or at least supplementing, those " home " skills that are critical to daily life and being accepted in our community. Many (not all, but probably most) of the parents I've worked with don't differentiate between what are skills to be learned at home and what are school/academic skills. They struggle, like all of you, with just daily day in and day out life of raising a child with a disability. Most of them haven't given serious thought to can my child independently and effectively brush his teeth on a daily basis, can my child work a microwave oven, can my child plan an appropriate meal for him/herself. Perhaps they haven't been actively involved in support groups, haven't researched things about DS (and other various disabilities), haven't learned about inclusion and the possibilities there. These are not bad parents, they're wonderful parents. Most of my kids have been self-contained except for going out for a class here or there...I've had seven kids with DS. I've always had my kids bring in toothbrushes, toothpaste, hairbrush, comb..because those have been areas these kids needed the extra practice in and I KNOW that many of my kids come to school without brushing their teeth and I often wondered about their hair. But, as a parent, I realize mornings are hectic and when you're trying to get your child with a disability out the door, often along with 2-3 other kids, sometimes those things don't take priority. We always did grooming skills as part of our arrival routine. Most of the kids did it also after lunch. Of course, at those times, my kids were in my MH class, self-contained and everyone followed that routine after lunch. I would never take one of my kids out of a mainstream class to come brush their teeth, but in my class that was fine and just as important/relevant as learning about Roman Emperors or something. I agree that the IEP is the key in Ted's case. If you specifically don't want him brushing his teeth at school, let the teacher know...I, personally, wouldn't have minded that and would have supported you 100% in your efforts to make that something that you would be responsible for at home. Ideally, that's the way it should be, but for many families it isn't and someone needs to step in and work on those type of skills. I'm guessing the supply list the teacher sent to you was the list she sent to all the kids, it wasn't individualized for each student. I'm not sure of Ted's placement...is he strictly MH, does he spend time in the DH class, how many classes is he included in the " regular " classroom?? From the vast majority of MH classes that I know of in OH the curriculum is very much not academically based--it is focused a lot on communication, self-help/daily living and vocational skills. I had years where I never asked my students to bring in pencils or crayons or paper. We rarely used those things and if we did the school provided those things. If my students were mainstreamed a lot into the DH classroom or into a regular education classroom they would have an additional supply list which might have included pencils, pens, colored pencils, notebook paper, calculator... Being on this list has really opened my eyes to many things and I'm grateful for that because I think it will help me more appropriately plan, prepare and advocate for Mac's future education. I, too, hope that most daily living/self-help skills will be taught by me in our home or picked up naturally like most children learn them. My hope for Mac, currently, is that he will be able to function in the typical educational setting as long as possible and/or as frequently as possible and receive more direct, specific instruction in a DH classroom as needed. I want his education to be relevant and meaningful to his future as a productive, happy and independent adult based on his true abilities. That may mean he won't participate in the study of Roman Emperors or other stuff that will not have a direct impact on him as an adult and that may only frustrate him. I do not currently feel that he MH classroom would be appropriate for him based on my professional experience working with the MH system in our county. I see the MH classroom for those students with VERY limited academic skills and a great need for more intense instruction in the areas I mentioned before. I do want and expect more than that for/from him, but for some kids the MH classroom is a the perfect setting! Obviously whoever sent you the " first aid " kit knew you were not going to like what they proposed. It was a nice thought to try and soften the blow, but it was also a major cop-out to not call and set up a mtg. to discuss this in person or, at least, over the phone. Good luck!! Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 I have to jump in here as an MH teacher. I must say in my 14 years of teaching MH most parents are NOT like the parents on this list--most are very unsure of what to do with their children, how to teach them anything (including self-help/daily living skills)...so the schools/MH classrooms have provided the service of teaching, or at least supplementing, those " home " skills that are critical to daily life and being accepted in our community. Many (not all, but probably most) of the parents I've worked with don't differentiate between what are skills to be learned at home and what are school/academic skills. They struggle, like all of you, with just daily day in and day out life of raising a child with a disability. Most of them haven't given serious thought to can my child independently and effectively brush his teeth on a daily basis, can my child work a microwave oven, can my child plan an appropriate meal for him/herself. Perhaps they haven't been actively involved in support groups, haven't researched things about DS (and other various disabilities), haven't learned about inclusion and the possibilities there. These are not bad parents, they're wonderful parents. Most of my kids have been self-contained except for going out for a class here or there...I've had seven kids with DS. I've always had my kids bring in toothbrushes, toothpaste, hairbrush, comb..because those have been areas these kids needed the extra practice in and I KNOW that many of my kids come to school without brushing their teeth and I often wondered about their hair. But, as a parent, I realize mornings are hectic and when you're trying to get your child with a disability out the door, often along with 2-3 other kids, sometimes those things don't take priority. We always did grooming skills as part of our arrival routine. Most of the kids did it also after lunch. Of course, at those times, my kids were in my MH class, self-contained and everyone followed that routine after lunch. I would never take one of my kids out of a mainstream class to come brush their teeth, but in my class that was fine and just as important/relevant as learning about Roman Emperors or something. I agree that the IEP is the key in Ted's case. If you specifically don't want him brushing his teeth at school, let the teacher know...I, personally, wouldn't have minded that and would have supported you 100% in your efforts to make that something that you would be responsible for at home. Ideally, that's the way it should be, but for many families it isn't and someone needs to step in and work on those type of skills. I'm guessing the supply list the teacher sent to you was the list she sent to all the kids, it wasn't individualized for each student. I'm not sure of Ted's placement...is he strictly MH, does he spend time in the DH class, how many classes is he included in the " regular " classroom?? From the vast majority of MH classes that I know of in OH the curriculum is very much not academically based--it is focused a lot on communication, self-help/daily living and vocational skills. I had years where I never asked my students to bring in pencils or crayons or paper. We rarely used those things and if we did the school provided those things. If my students were mainstreamed a lot into the DH classroom or into a regular education classroom they would have an additional supply list which might have included pencils, pens, colored pencils, notebook paper, calculator... Being on this list has really opened my eyes to many things and I'm grateful for that because I think it will help me more appropriately plan, prepare and advocate for Mac's future education. I, too, hope that most daily living/self-help skills will be taught by me in our home or picked up naturally like most children learn them. My hope for Mac, currently, is that he will be able to function in the typical educational setting as long as possible and/or as frequently as possible and receive more direct, specific instruction in a DH classroom as needed. I want his education to be relevant and meaningful to his future as a productive, happy and independent adult based on his true abilities. That may mean he won't participate in the study of Roman Emperors or other stuff that will not have a direct impact on him as an adult and that may only frustrate him. I do not currently feel that he MH classroom would be appropriate for him based on my professional experience working with the MH system in our county. I see the MH classroom for those students with VERY limited academic skills and a great need for more intense instruction in the areas I mentioned before. I do want and expect more than that for/from him, but for some kids the MH classroom is a the perfect setting! Obviously whoever sent you the " first aid " kit knew you were not going to like what they proposed. It was a nice thought to try and soften the blow, but it was also a major cop-out to not call and set up a mtg. to discuss this in person or, at least, over the phone. Good luck!! Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 In a message dated 8/11/2001 11:53:20 AM Central Daylight Time, thrill@... writes: > I see the MH classroom for those students with VERY limited > academic skills and a great need for more intense instruction in the areas I > Hi Jill, I get what you're saying, but the above statement does indeed make me sit back. Those of us that have been on this list for years recall Tina's ('s mom) struggle to get included and give some academic instruction. The class he was in didn't work much on academics at all if I recall right. I talked to her alot back then.......she sure is quiet since Darius has gotten big enough to get around. lol.... Perhaps she would share with you exactly what happened after she got him into his home school, out of the type of classroom that you're talking about. :-) My point being that you do have it right that parents really don't know what they should ask for and trust the teachers. (BTDT in preschool) and teachers seem to be stuck in an IQ rut where if the IQ or if not tested the observations look like a lower IQ they decide they need to teach life skills. (still there and fighting that) My guess is some parents don't know that there is more they can have their child try to achieve, I keep bumping up against life skills. My answer lately has been....MATH AND READING ARE Life SKILLS NEEDED TO LIVE INDEPENDANTLY....after all you need to figure out money, buget, read directions etc etc. One reason I let her go in MSMI field trips is because they don't go to often AND they usually involve a skill like paying for a treat at DQ or making a list and purchasing the goodies to make a treat and using money IS one of her goals. Life skills? i don't make beds very often, just pull the covers up over the bed in the morning...why make it you'll just mess it up again, hehehe. :-) Joy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 In a message dated 8/11/2001 11:53:20 AM Central Daylight Time, thrill@... writes: > I see the MH classroom for those students with VERY limited > academic skills and a great need for more intense instruction in the areas I > Hi Jill, I get what you're saying, but the above statement does indeed make me sit back. Those of us that have been on this list for years recall Tina's ('s mom) struggle to get included and give some academic instruction. The class he was in didn't work much on academics at all if I recall right. I talked to her alot back then.......she sure is quiet since Darius has gotten big enough to get around. lol.... Perhaps she would share with you exactly what happened after she got him into his home school, out of the type of classroom that you're talking about. :-) My point being that you do have it right that parents really don't know what they should ask for and trust the teachers. (BTDT in preschool) and teachers seem to be stuck in an IQ rut where if the IQ or if not tested the observations look like a lower IQ they decide they need to teach life skills. (still there and fighting that) My guess is some parents don't know that there is more they can have their child try to achieve, I keep bumping up against life skills. My answer lately has been....MATH AND READING ARE Life SKILLS NEEDED TO LIVE INDEPENDANTLY....after all you need to figure out money, buget, read directions etc etc. One reason I let her go in MSMI field trips is because they don't go to often AND they usually involve a skill like paying for a treat at DQ or making a list and purchasing the goodies to make a treat and using money IS one of her goals. Life skills? i don't make beds very often, just pull the covers up over the bed in the morning...why make it you'll just mess it up again, hehehe. :-) Joy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 In a message dated 8/11/2001 3:05:12 PM Central Daylight Time, wildwards@... writes: > glasses to help them open their eyes and see Ted as an individual! > Cheryl in VA > > Oh picked up a pair of those coke bottle glasses out of the dentists goodie box last time....maybe a pair of those? Joy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 In a message dated 8/11/2001 3:05:12 PM Central Daylight Time, wildwards@... writes: > glasses to help them open their eyes and see Ted as an individual! > Cheryl in VA > > Oh picked up a pair of those coke bottle glasses out of the dentists goodie box last time....maybe a pair of those? Joy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 Jill, Hey I thought I was the only one not practicing bedmaking skills myself!!! I also agree with Joy that reading and math and I would include writing in there, are the life skills that not only our kids but all kids should be taught and that should be the major goals to achieve. I dont know, maybe because amanda can read and do some math and use a calculator pretty well and write and speak well, that I feel so strongly about this. But as a teacher, I also feel that all kids can learn and not only how to brush their teeth and make a bed, but academic skills and how to be an independent, productive person in society. Wow this is way too much thinking for someone still on vaca and really didnt even go away yet!!! ~ Mom to amanda almost DS 11 and 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 Jill, Hey I thought I was the only one not practicing bedmaking skills myself!!! I also agree with Joy that reading and math and I would include writing in there, are the life skills that not only our kids but all kids should be taught and that should be the major goals to achieve. I dont know, maybe because amanda can read and do some math and use a calculator pretty well and write and speak well, that I feel so strongly about this. But as a teacher, I also feel that all kids can learn and not only how to brush their teeth and make a bed, but academic skills and how to be an independent, productive person in society. Wow this is way too much thinking for someone still on vaca and really didnt even go away yet!!! ~ Mom to amanda almost DS 11 and 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 In a message dated 8/11/01 11:53:00 AM Central Daylight Time, thrill@... writes: > . Many (not all, but probably most) of the parents I've worked > with don't differentiate between what are skills to be learned at home and > what are school/academic skills. They struggle, like all of you, with just > daily day in and day out life of raising a child with a disability. Most of > them haven't given serious thought to can my child independently and > A long time ago another mother and I went with the director or whatever he was called to visit all the " special " classes. No one had heard of inclusion at that time. He said the biggest problem they had was retarded parents. No academics were being taught. Yet many mothers were so thrilled to have any school that they didn't care what was taught, didn't see the difference. And probably many parents still today blindly accept IEP's that are handed to them to sign, and don't know it can be any different. It's probably easier for the parent ane while they are well-meaning and love their children just as much they are short-changing them. Jessie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 In a message dated 8/11/01 11:53:00 AM Central Daylight Time, thrill@... writes: > . Many (not all, but probably most) of the parents I've worked > with don't differentiate between what are skills to be learned at home and > what are school/academic skills. They struggle, like all of you, with just > daily day in and day out life of raising a child with a disability. Most of > them haven't given serious thought to can my child independently and > A long time ago another mother and I went with the director or whatever he was called to visit all the " special " classes. No one had heard of inclusion at that time. He said the biggest problem they had was retarded parents. No academics were being taught. Yet many mothers were so thrilled to have any school that they didn't care what was taught, didn't see the difference. And probably many parents still today blindly accept IEP's that are handed to them to sign, and don't know it can be any different. It's probably easier for the parent ane while they are well-meaning and love their children just as much they are short-changing them. Jessie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 In a message dated 8/11/01 5:27:56 PM Central Daylight Time, JTesmer799@... writes: > . Life skills? i don't make beds > very often, just pull the covers up over the bed in the morning...why make > it > you'll just mess it up again, hehehe. :-) > > Joy > informed me the other day that he didn't want me to TOUCH his bed. I said OK because I can remember when I didn't want my mom to touch mine. I change the sheets when needed but otherwise leave it alone. And he informs me when they need changing. He did it himself for some time after I got hurt in a fall but it is a struggle for him so when I was better I took over again. Jessie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 In a message dated 8/11/01 5:27:56 PM Central Daylight Time, JTesmer799@... writes: > . Life skills? i don't make beds > very often, just pull the covers up over the bed in the morning...why make > it > you'll just mess it up again, hehehe. :-) > > Joy > informed me the other day that he didn't want me to TOUCH his bed. I said OK because I can remember when I didn't want my mom to touch mine. I change the sheets when needed but otherwise leave it alone. And he informs me when they need changing. He did it himself for some time after I got hurt in a fall but it is a struggle for him so when I was better I took over again. Jessie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 In a message dated 8/11/01 7:07:40 PM Central Daylight Time, david@... writes: > Sharon Scheyd, a mom from Louisiana, tells a wonderful story about a kid in > a school 'life skills room'... > > making the bed > unmaking the bed > making the bed > unmaking the bed > > Finally, looking up at the teacher, he asks... > > " Who _sleeps_ in this bed, anyway? " > > Cheers, > > I love it. Another case of the kid being smarter than the teacher. Jessie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 In a message dated 8/11/01 7:07:40 PM Central Daylight Time, david@... writes: > Sharon Scheyd, a mom from Louisiana, tells a wonderful story about a kid in > a school 'life skills room'... > > making the bed > unmaking the bed > making the bed > unmaking the bed > > Finally, looking up at the teacher, he asks... > > " Who _sleeps_ in this bed, anyway? " > > Cheers, > > I love it. Another case of the kid being smarter than the teacher. Jessie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 << Many (not all, but probably most) of the parents I've worked > with don't differentiate between what are skills to be learned at home and > what are school/academic skills. >> Hmm... I wonder how many of these parents have been beaten down, intimidated, and scoffed by systems if they ask for more intense academic education and less life skills education. I, for one, have had to file a due process against our distict to have my son get the education that he deserves, while the kids whose parents are less forcefull sit in self-contained classrooms learning lifeskills. I wonder how many parents would get a package with a kleenex, bandage, and hersheys kiss and fight? I wonder how many of them would jump at the chance for a teacher to APPROACH THEM and ask if they could introduce Reading, Math, and Writing to their IEP as opposed to bedmaking, making PBJs and walking in a straight line. It seems to me that there are lots of parents on this list that would like, get, fight for more than lifeskills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 << Many (not all, but probably most) of the parents I've worked > with don't differentiate between what are skills to be learned at home and > what are school/academic skills. >> Hmm... I wonder how many of these parents have been beaten down, intimidated, and scoffed by systems if they ask for more intense academic education and less life skills education. I, for one, have had to file a due process against our distict to have my son get the education that he deserves, while the kids whose parents are less forcefull sit in self-contained classrooms learning lifeskills. I wonder how many parents would get a package with a kleenex, bandage, and hersheys kiss and fight? I wonder how many of them would jump at the chance for a teacher to APPROACH THEM and ask if they could introduce Reading, Math, and Writing to their IEP as opposed to bedmaking, making PBJs and walking in a straight line. It seems to me that there are lots of parents on this list that would like, get, fight for more than lifeskills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 > writes: Hey I thought I was the only one not practicing bedmaking skills myself!!! Sharon Scheyd, a mom from Louisiana, tells a wonderful story about a kid in a school 'life skills room'... making the bed unmaking the bed making the bed unmaking the bed Finally, looking up at the teacher, he asks... " Who _sleeps_ in this bed, anyway? " Cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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