Re: school vent already!

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In a message dated 8/10/2001 2:43:03 PM Central Daylight Time,

gboughton@... writes:

> ? Then there are the forms...

> oh, fill one out for a blanket okay for any and all field

> trips and walks around the block. no way! Then there

> is the school supply list...1 can of powdered drink mix.

> I don't think so! Ted doesn't need that! 4 boxes of tissues,

> toothbrush and toothpaste, hair brush or comb, washcloth

> and hand towel. No paper or crayons or pencils or any thing

> that is for school. I am just going nuts. sorry,

> Gail

>

>

Hi Gail,

so far I take it Ted does not have a new IEP for next year? When did you

sign the current one, has it been over a year? can you invoke the stay put

option which would keep him in his currant setting? Which would be more

academic then what this program they want him in sounds like? They after all

are responsible for making sure that his IEP is written on time and such.

Call and ask what they are doing about it.

Then personally I'd send the forms back stating that his IEP does not include

unlimited field trips/walks off school grounds and never will. that he will

do those things with his regular education peers and occasionally with his

sped peers. ;-) that Ted drinks water or milk only during school hrs,

unless for a celebration for a holiday party with his reg. ed. peers.

And why does he need a blanket? Doesn't he already know how to brush his

teeth and hair? I do have brush her teeth after lunch but I'm not sure

if I'll have them have her do that this year since she hasn't really needed

the practice for afew years. the only kids you see in non sped classes maybe

brushing their teeth are those who have braces....and even alot of those seem

to prefer to just rinse their mouth out with water when done eating. And

unless he's still a really messy eater why in the world does he need a

washcloth and towel. EEEK. hope schools doesn't start for you til you get

this all worked out. Will you keep him at home until this is settled to your

satisfaction?

Joy

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In a message dated 8/10/2001 2:43:03 PM Central Daylight Time,

gboughton@... writes:

> ? Then there are the forms...

> oh, fill one out for a blanket okay for any and all field

> trips and walks around the block. no way! Then there

> is the school supply list...1 can of powdered drink mix.

> I don't think so! Ted doesn't need that! 4 boxes of tissues,

> toothbrush and toothpaste, hair brush or comb, washcloth

> and hand towel. No paper or crayons or pencils or any thing

> that is for school. I am just going nuts. sorry,

> Gail

>

>

Hi Gail,

so far I take it Ted does not have a new IEP for next year? When did you

sign the current one, has it been over a year? can you invoke the stay put

option which would keep him in his currant setting? Which would be more

academic then what this program they want him in sounds like? They after all

are responsible for making sure that his IEP is written on time and such.

Call and ask what they are doing about it.

Then personally I'd send the forms back stating that his IEP does not include

unlimited field trips/walks off school grounds and never will. that he will

do those things with his regular education peers and occasionally with his

sped peers. ;-) that Ted drinks water or milk only during school hrs,

unless for a celebration for a holiday party with his reg. ed. peers.

And why does he need a blanket? Doesn't he already know how to brush his

teeth and hair? I do have brush her teeth after lunch but I'm not sure

if I'll have them have her do that this year since she hasn't really needed

the practice for afew years. the only kids you see in non sped classes maybe

brushing their teeth are those who have braces....and even alot of those seem

to prefer to just rinse their mouth out with water when done eating. And

unless he's still a really messy eater why in the world does he need a

washcloth and towel. EEEK. hope schools doesn't start for you til you get

this all worked out. Will you keep him at home until this is settled to your

satisfaction?

Joy

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In a message dated 8/10/01 3:44:39 PM Central Daylight Time,

gboughton@... writes:

> Sorry, in my " state " I didn't make myself

> very clear, I meant to say they wanted

> a form signed that would cover all field

> trips with out doing one each time. I don't

> know why I used the term blanket...they

> didn't ask for a blanket.

LOL Gail I understood you lolol the term " Blanket " that you used, meant

covering ALL field trips.....right?

I use this term a lot too lol

Kathy mom to Sara 9

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In a message dated 8/10/01 3:44:39 PM Central Daylight Time,

gboughton@... writes:

> Sorry, in my " state " I didn't make myself

> very clear, I meant to say they wanted

> a form signed that would cover all field

> trips with out doing one each time. I don't

> know why I used the term blanket...they

> didn't ask for a blanket.

LOL Gail I understood you lolol the term " Blanket " that you used, meant

covering ALL field trips.....right?

I use this term a lot too lol

Kathy mom to Sara 9

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In a message dated 8/10/01 2:43:02 PM Central Daylight Time,

gboughton@... writes:

> Hi group,

> I guess I have no friends to vent this to. I just can't

> think of any one that has a similar situation.

HI Gail

First......... a (((((hug)))))) we are starting school on Monday and I'm a

bit nervous.

Second....I may steal these survival toys for Sara's new teachers lolol

Third........is Ted placement on his IEP for Reg Ed? Reg Ed with pullout to a

CDC classroom? Or what next was there ever a meeting to change

placements? or program type? Also is this a legally dated IEP not expired?

and do you still have your lawyer on call?

They can NOT change anything on the IEP without Prior Written notice and it

has to be done at an IEP meeting with the reason on the notice that this is

their intentions. I had an IEP meeting this week and I too was worried that

they were going to try and change Sara's placement or supports but a friend

told me (which I had forgotten) that they have to give me prior written

notice if changes were going to be made. The meeting went well, kind of a

waste of time really, the new Reg Ed teacher wasn't there so my questions are

on hold till next meeting

Maybe this week we can schedule a chat and all brainstorm on your situation

Kathy mom to Sara 9.........Oh how I hate your school district Heehee it

seems they lack respect for the Law...by the way there is a time frame for

meetings you call

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In a message dated 8/10/01 2:43:02 PM Central Daylight Time,

gboughton@... writes:

> Hi group,

> I guess I have no friends to vent this to. I just can't

> think of any one that has a similar situation.

HI Gail

First......... a (((((hug)))))) we are starting school on Monday and I'm a

bit nervous.

Second....I may steal these survival toys for Sara's new teachers lolol

Third........is Ted placement on his IEP for Reg Ed? Reg Ed with pullout to a

CDC classroom? Or what next was there ever a meeting to change

placements? or program type? Also is this a legally dated IEP not expired?

and do you still have your lawyer on call?

They can NOT change anything on the IEP without Prior Written notice and it

has to be done at an IEP meeting with the reason on the notice that this is

their intentions. I had an IEP meeting this week and I too was worried that

they were going to try and change Sara's placement or supports but a friend

told me (which I had forgotten) that they have to give me prior written

notice if changes were going to be made. The meeting went well, kind of a

waste of time really, the new Reg Ed teacher wasn't there so my questions are

on hold till next meeting

Maybe this week we can schedule a chat and all brainstorm on your situation

Kathy mom to Sara 9.........Oh how I hate your school district Heehee it

seems they lack respect for the Law...by the way there is a time frame for

meetings you call

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In a message dated 8/10/2001 3:43:32 PM Central Daylight Time,

gboughton@... writes:

> trips and walks around >>

>

> Joy said,

> <<And why does he need a blanket?>>

>

> Sorry, in my " state " I didn't make myself

> very clear, I meant to say they wanted

> a form signed that would cover all field

> trips with out doing one each time. I don't

> know why I used the term blanket...they

> didn't ask for a blanket.

>

hehe. ok, i musta been reading it wrong. LOL.

but good luck. sounds like a big mess.

Joy

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In a message dated 8/10/2001 3:43:32 PM Central Daylight Time,

gboughton@... writes:

> trips and walks around >>

>

> Joy said,

> <<And why does he need a blanket?>>

>

> Sorry, in my " state " I didn't make myself

> very clear, I meant to say they wanted

> a form signed that would cover all field

> trips with out doing one each time. I don't

> know why I used the term blanket...they

> didn't ask for a blanket.

>

hehe. ok, i musta been reading it wrong. LOL.

but good luck. sounds like a big mess.

Joy

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In a message dated 8/10/2001 4:20:44 PM Central Daylight Time, B4alltoday

writes:

> LOL Gail I understood you lolol the term " Blanket " that you used, meant

> covering ALL field trips.....right?

>

> I use this term a lot too lol

>

>

:-Þ so I had a senior moment......comes with the CRS ya know....at any age.

lol

Joy

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In a message dated 8/10/2001 4:20:44 PM Central Daylight Time, B4alltoday

writes:

> LOL Gail I understood you lolol the term " Blanket " that you used, meant

> covering ALL field trips.....right?

>

> I use this term a lot too lol

>

>

:-Þ so I had a senior moment......comes with the CRS ya know....at any age.

lol

Joy

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Gail said,

<<? Then there are the forms...

oh, fill one out for a blanket okay for any and all field

trips and walks around >>

Joy said,

<<And why does he need a blanket?>>

Sorry, in my " state " I didn't make myself

very clear, I meant to say they wanted

a form signed that would cover all field

trips with out doing one each time. I don't

know why I used the term blanket...they

didn't ask for a blanket.

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Gail said,

<<? Then there are the forms...

oh, fill one out for a blanket okay for any and all field

trips and walks around >>

Joy said,

<<And why does he need a blanket?>>

Sorry, in my " state " I didn't make myself

very clear, I meant to say they wanted

a form signed that would cover all field

trips with out doing one each time. I don't

know why I used the term blanket...they

didn't ask for a blanket.

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..<< Will you keep him at home until this is settled to your

satisfaction?

Joy >>

I don't want to but I don't think it is right to send him

there so I don't know what else to do.

Gail

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..<< Will you keep him at home until this is settled to your

satisfaction?

Joy >>

I don't want to but I don't think it is right to send him

there so I don't know what else to do.

Gail

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<<You mean to tell me the school actually sent the " survival " kit to

you!!???

I can not believe it, HOW INCONSIDERATE!!!!! and RUDE!!!!

Do they not know the law and that they need to provide no matter

what!!!????? No pencils or paper, but koolaide!!!!???????????? Where is

this

at?

Renae

mom to Brady 7/cp and Lucas 5/ds>>

This is in the South Euclid/Lyndhurst school district in Ohio.

I had to have an attorney and Ted lost most of last year due

to the school putting a theraputic hold on him for non compliance!

Gail

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<<You mean to tell me the school actually sent the " survival " kit to

you!!???

I can not believe it, HOW INCONSIDERATE!!!!! and RUDE!!!!

Do they not know the law and that they need to provide no matter

what!!!????? No pencils or paper, but koolaide!!!!???????????? Where is

this

at?

Renae

mom to Brady 7/cp and Lucas 5/ds>>

This is in the South Euclid/Lyndhurst school district in Ohio.

I had to have an attorney and Ted lost most of last year due

to the school putting a theraputic hold on him for non compliance!

Gail

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In a message dated 8/10/01 6:09:45 PM Central Daylight Time, JTesmer799

writes:

> :-Þ so I had a senior moment......comes with the CRS ya know....at any

age.

> lol

>

> Joy

ROTFLOL Oooh yeah I know about that CRS lol I cooked a great meal last night,

lasagna, Italian salad, garlic bread and dump cake. We entertained Mike's

cousin from Chicago who was in town for the night. Also we had over Mike's

brother, wife and kids. Anyway my SIL asked me if I had anything for dessert

and I said " no " . SIL ran to the store to pick up a pie. Hours later after

dinner Kaite my 12 yr. old asked me when we were having this " dump cake " that

I made. ooooh I was so embarrassed, here my sweet SIL went to all this

trouble to go get dessert and I had already made one..............my Mom

thinks I need Gingko

Kathy mom to Sara 9............who sent half of this cake home with SIL lolol

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In a message dated 8/10/01 6:09:45 PM Central Daylight Time, JTesmer799

writes:

> :-Þ so I had a senior moment......comes with the CRS ya know....at any

age.

> lol

>

> Joy

ROTFLOL Oooh yeah I know about that CRS lol I cooked a great meal last night,

lasagna, Italian salad, garlic bread and dump cake. We entertained Mike's

cousin from Chicago who was in town for the night. Also we had over Mike's

brother, wife and kids. Anyway my SIL asked me if I had anything for dessert

and I said " no " . SIL ran to the store to pick up a pie. Hours later after

dinner Kaite my 12 yr. old asked me when we were having this " dump cake " that

I made. ooooh I was so embarrassed, here my sweet SIL went to all this

trouble to go get dessert and I had already made one..............my Mom

thinks I need Gingko

Kathy mom to Sara 9............who sent half of this cake home with SIL lolol

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<<from your e-mail, am i to understand that they are moving ted to middle

school when he is in 5th grade????WHY????/definately something wrong with

that picture....... what type of classroom setting is he in? what

happened

to his class from last year??????>>

Hi Lori,

They are moving him this year and he should be in the 4th grade.

They say he is an ungraded student and they say they are not

changing placement just moving the unit.

<<i had my camera and totally forgot to take pictures of ted and

you......it is

digital, so i now have to print all of the pictures out..... can you

download

any???? if so, i'll send some of the kids. i took pics of many of the

rides

in the plan of making alec a book of disney>>

We ran out of film ealier Sunday otherwise I would have been snapping

pictures of you and your darling children! We picked up our pictures

today

and I slipped one of each into a small notebook for Ted. He loves it.

Today

he showed me a couple of pictures of the room and cottage we stayed in

and told me he wanted to go there! LOL I'd love some pictures and I can

download. I will send you 1 or 2 in the regular mail since I didn't have

the

money to get them on cd but I did get doubles.

<<when does ted go back to school.... alec goes back in 2 weeks.....mon

aug

27th. >>

Ted is supposed to go back this exact same day.

<<sorry i didn;t mean to go on.........

tell me what is up with ted.............

oh and if you ever get to fl again..... let me know in advance..... we'll

plan ahead of time and meet....... you are also welcome to stay here in

miami...... we have plenty of room in the house.....a pool in the

backyard.......

lori >>

Oh no! I enjoy reading this all! Alec seemed very neat...I just wish

we could have spent more time with you guys. You and anyone on

the list would also be welcome if you ever come to Cleveland!

hugs!

Gail

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<<from your e-mail, am i to understand that they are moving ted to middle

school when he is in 5th grade????WHY????/definately something wrong with

that picture....... what type of classroom setting is he in? what

happened

to his class from last year??????>>

Hi Lori,

They are moving him this year and he should be in the 4th grade.

They say he is an ungraded student and they say they are not

changing placement just moving the unit.

<<i had my camera and totally forgot to take pictures of ted and

you......it is

digital, so i now have to print all of the pictures out..... can you

download

any???? if so, i'll send some of the kids. i took pics of many of the

rides

in the plan of making alec a book of disney>>

We ran out of film ealier Sunday otherwise I would have been snapping

pictures of you and your darling children! We picked up our pictures

today

and I slipped one of each into a small notebook for Ted. He loves it.

Today

he showed me a couple of pictures of the room and cottage we stayed in

and told me he wanted to go there! LOL I'd love some pictures and I can

download. I will send you 1 or 2 in the regular mail since I didn't have

the

money to get them on cd but I did get doubles.

<<when does ted go back to school.... alec goes back in 2 weeks.....mon

aug

27th. >>

Ted is supposed to go back this exact same day.

<<sorry i didn;t mean to go on.........

tell me what is up with ted.............

oh and if you ever get to fl again..... let me know in advance..... we'll

plan ahead of time and meet....... you are also welcome to stay here in

miami...... we have plenty of room in the house.....a pool in the

backyard.......

lori >>

Oh no! I enjoy reading this all! Alec seemed very neat...I just wish

we could have spent more time with you guys. You and anyone on

the list would also be welcome if you ever come to Cleveland!

hugs!

Gail

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In a message dated 8/11/01 7:09:32 AM Central Daylight Time,

bspyle@... writes:

> My guess is that the school furnishes the crayons, paper, etc., Gail. Why

> don't you ask them?

>

> And I would be thrilled to know my kid was going to be brushing his teeth

> after lunch at school!

>

> granny

Hi

For the 18 years my kids have been in schools, we have always had to provide

their school supplies, even math and spelling workbooks (12 bucks a piece).

The text books are provided by the schools.

Also if this was a wonderful world all would be brushing their teeth at

school, but it doesn't happen and I would not do anything that would make

Sara stand out as different. JMHO she rinses her mouth out after lunch like

the other kids

Kathy mom to Sara 9...........Im betting the brushing of teeth is not for the

reasons we would like, but teaching this HOME skill

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In a message dated 8/11/01 7:09:32 AM Central Daylight Time,

bspyle@... writes:

> My guess is that the school furnishes the crayons, paper, etc., Gail. Why

> don't you ask them?

>

> And I would be thrilled to know my kid was going to be brushing his teeth

> after lunch at school!

>

> granny

Hi

For the 18 years my kids have been in schools, we have always had to provide

their school supplies, even math and spelling workbooks (12 bucks a piece).

The text books are provided by the schools.

Also if this was a wonderful world all would be brushing their teeth at

school, but it doesn't happen and I would not do anything that would make

Sara stand out as different. JMHO she rinses her mouth out after lunch like

the other kids

Kathy mom to Sara 9...........Im betting the brushing of teeth is not for the

reasons we would like, but teaching this HOME skill

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In a message dated 8/11/01 8:04:57 AM Central Daylight Time,

bspyle@... writes:

> We covered those " home " skills when I was in grade school. Has education

> changed that much. MHMR is sending a skills trainer to our home to help me

> teach and how to take care of their home unassisted. Should I

> cancel?

>

> granny

Yes, Granny education has changed that much lololol and as far as canceling

the home provider NO WAY .........can she come to my daughter's apt and

assist her

Kathy mom to Sara 9.....notice how you said help " me " teach and

that's the way all home care should be, involve the parents ....again JMHO

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In a message dated 8/11/01 8:04:57 AM Central Daylight Time,

bspyle@... writes:

> We covered those " home " skills when I was in grade school. Has education

> changed that much. MHMR is sending a skills trainer to our home to help me

> teach and how to take care of their home unassisted. Should I

> cancel?

>

> granny

Yes, Granny education has changed that much lololol and as far as canceling

the home provider NO WAY .........can she come to my daughter's apt and

assist her

Kathy mom to Sara 9.....notice how you said help " me " teach and

that's the way all home care should be, involve the parents ....again JMHO

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In a message dated 8/11/01 8:26:40 AM Central Daylight Time,

gboughton@... writes:

> THEIR curriculum.

HI Gail

Heehee I look at it this way, if it's NOT in the IEP then don't go near it

with a 10 foot pole lolol even potty training in the schools gets to be an

obsessive compulsive behavior with some teachers. I know of a kid who was

taken to the potty every 30 mins for 15 mins a time, now guess how much

academics he got in a days time????? (did this make sense lol)

Some things need to be left with the parents, and plans for anything should

be drawn up with the parents .......involved with planning decisions

Kathy mom to Sara 9