Guest guest Posted March 19, 1999 Report Share Posted March 19, 1999 When you take too much magnesium you get diarrhea. Must be your body's way of getting rid of it. Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 1999 Report Share Posted March 19, 1999 Hi Sharon Perhaps check out this site which promotes hydration using Magnesium Oxide as probably the best colon cleansing and apply the first step for detoxi program. Most interesting.. www.denmar.net. cheers. At 08:37 19/03/99 -0500, you wrote: >From: " Sharon L. House " <shouse@...> > >When you take too much magnesium you get diarrhea. Must be your body's way >of getting rid of it. > >Sharon > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Ta Da! Come see our new web site! > >Onelist: A free email community service >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self- help subjects. > >THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > >This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > >You can subscribe/unsubscribe via e-mail by sending AN e-mail to the following address >DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE > oxyplus-subscribeonelist - subscribe to a list. > oxyplus-unsubscribeonelist - unsubscribe from a list. > oxyplus-digestonelist - switch your subscription to digest mode. > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 1999 Report Share Posted March 19, 1999 " From: Reg Lee <reglee@...> Hi Sharon Perhaps check out this site which promotes hydration using Magnesium Oxide as probably the best colon cleansing and apply the first step for detoxi program. Most interesting.. www.denmar.net. cheers. " Thanks! Great site! Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 1999 Report Share Posted December 5, 1999 Hmmm, should I speak or hold my peace. Let's just say, I like to use amino acid chelates, my " preference " . I like the liquid for absorbtion (it's quicker), but that doesn't mean better. And my " favorite " lab is Albion Labs who makes minerals for Futurebiotics. Magnesium being what it is, I'm sure that the Walmart brand would suffice as well. I'm just a " nutrition snob " I suppose. Whatever I am, I only use nutrition that " works " , so if I don't notice any changes, I don't use it. I've been on numerous cleansing programs that were a total waste and wash of cash. Which leads us into another discussion entirely, but we won't go there now. Save that for later. I'm still chewing my cud on water safety, toxins and drugs in my water supply, and the problems with the hormones in milk. I further declare, that the planet is unsafe, and that everything that you have learned in school is useless for real life. It's becoming increasing clear that Einstein should have been elected to president with his well known slogan, " Today's problems will never be solved in the consciousness in which they were created " . I think that in our efforts to dissect, and choose the right products that we can economically justify, etc, etc, we lose sight of the BIG PICTURE. ESSENTIALS. We need to focus on the essentials. Such as, how many of us ate 5 servings of RAW, whole, green leafy veggies. It's 9pm, EST, and my kids are in bed. I'm FINALLY going to get my salad for the day. (if I was in the mood, I start a rant about how I took my Master Formula religiously today, but I dare not go there with the current MLM backlash we are experiencing.) In the meantime, my favorite stress-buster of late, is going to http://www. and playing canasta. If anyone would like to join me, you can find me at the speedy genius's tables under the alias of zeropoint. Canasta is wonderful, because it gives me an opportunity to practice my breathing exercises at the same time that I play. Absent any real friends locally, at least any interested in playing canasta (didn't everyone used to play cards for fun, instead of TV??? that's the way I grew up, from what I remember), this is this single mother's answer to entertainment. Be blessed and be well, for one more day, At 05:32 PM 12/5/99 -0800, you wrote: >Joe Peppe writes: > >> What kind of Magnesium do you take? Liquid? Do you endorse the Water Oz >> company liquid minerals by that inventor Mr. Bill Rich..(not MLM) He says >> his are the only true usable ones cause he uses a laser somehow to split >his >> minerals up into an assimilatable form. Do you or anyone know the >> authenticity of Bill Rich's claims? > >Joe, > This is patently absurd. Each second of each day your body performs >trillions of individual little chemical reactions. Each of these is a >little experiment. These reactions usually fly, but over the course of our >lives untold trillions of these reactions get screwed up. A few of these > " experiments " lead to better ways for our nature to handle environmental >assaults, etc. This is all done on an unconscious level. Bad reactions >will eventually fall by the way side. Nature has eons of time and an >infinite number of tricks to sort out every situation. > Along comes a man (and like all of us, trying to make a buck) who >concludes that all these years and through the zillions of reactions, nature >has been processing minerals all wrong. Minerals are only assimulable if >they have been zapped by a proprietary secret ray gun under his personal >control. Mr. Bill Rich will permit you to survive--but for a price. > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Get 75% Off Our Best Selling Health and Wellness Books! >SelfCare.com has everything you need to take care of you and your family, >plus spend $40 or more and your shipping is free! >http://clickhere./click/1824 > > > >eGroups.com Home: cures for cancer/ > - Simplifying group communications > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 1999 Report Share Posted December 5, 1999 Thanks , I know we can't improve on nature. This guy says he's improving on colloidal mineral supplements that I 've been told do more harm than good by quite a few doctors. Have you heard his $1.oo tape? I'll send you one if you would like to critique what he is saying. I'm sure I'm not doing the man justice. Tell us some more about your liquid GSH if you want. We're genuinely interested. Thanks for responding. You have humorous way with words. What personal cancer/disease did you beat and how did you do it? If you care to share we're interested also. Godspeed, drpeppe@... Magnesium > Joe Peppe writes: > > > What kind of Magnesium do you take? Liquid? Do you endorse the Water Oz > > company liquid minerals by that inventor Mr. Bill Rich..(not MLM) He says > > his are the only true usable ones cause he uses a laser somehow to split > his > > minerals up into an assimilatable form. Do you or anyone know the > > authenticity of Bill Rich's claims? > > Joe, > This is patently absurd. Each second of each day your body performs > trillions of individual little chemical reactions. Each of these is a > little experiment. These reactions usually fly, but over the course of our > lives untold trillions of these reactions get screwed up. A few of these > " experiments " lead to better ways for our nature to handle environmental > assaults, etc. This is all done on an unconscious level. Bad reactions > will eventually fall by the way side. Nature has eons of time and an > infinite number of tricks to sort out every situation. > Along comes a man (and like all of us, trying to make a buck) who > concludes that all these years and through the zillions of reactions, nature > has been processing minerals all wrong. Minerals are only assimulable if > they have been zapped by a proprietary secret ray gun under his personal > control. Mr. Bill Rich will permit you to survive--but for a price. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get 75% Off Our Best Selling Health and Wellness Books! > SelfCare.com has everything you need to take care of you and your family, > plus spend $40 or more and your shipping is free! > http://clickhere./click/1824 > > > > eGroups.com Home: cures for cancer/ > - Simplifying group communications > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 1999 Report Share Posted December 5, 1999 , I second that witness on Albion Labs. Mr. Albion holds the only patent on real chelation of a mineral. Everyone else is either a liar or they stole his chelation process and are using it illegally. My x wife taught me canasta, havn't played for about 15 years but enjoyed it and I havn't owned a T.V. for three. drpeppe@... Re: Magnesium > Hmmm, should I speak or hold my peace. > > Let's just say, I like to use amino acid chelates, my " preference " . I like > the liquid for absorbtion (it's quicker), but that doesn't mean better. > And my " favorite " lab is Albion Labs who makes minerals for Futurebiotics. > > Magnesium being what it is, I'm sure that the Walmart brand would suffice > as well. I'm just a " nutrition snob " I suppose. Whatever I am, I only use > nutrition that " works " , so if I don't notice any changes, I don't use it. > > I've been on numerous cleansing programs that were a total waste and wash > of cash. Which leads us into another discussion entirely, but we won't go > there now. Save that for later. I'm still chewing my cud on water safety, > toxins and drugs in my water supply, and the problems with the hormones in > milk. > > I further declare, that the planet is unsafe, and that everything that you > have learned in school is useless for real life. It's becoming increasing > clear that Einstein should have been elected to president with his well > known slogan, " Today's problems will never be solved in the consciousness > in which they were created " . > > I think that in our efforts to dissect, and choose the right products that > we can economically justify, etc, etc, we lose sight of the BIG PICTURE. > > ESSENTIALS. > > We need to focus on the essentials. Such as, how many of us ate 5 servings > of RAW, whole, green leafy veggies. It's 9pm, EST, and my kids are in bed. > I'm FINALLY going to get my salad for the day. (if I was in the mood, I > start a rant about how I took my Master Formula religiously today, but I > dare not go there with the current MLM backlash we are experiencing.) > > In the meantime, my favorite stress-buster of late, is going to > http://www. and playing canasta. If anyone would like to join me, > you can find me at the speedy genius's tables under the alias of zeropoint. > > Canasta is wonderful, because it gives me an opportunity to practice my > breathing exercises at the same time that I play. Absent any real friends > locally, at least any interested in playing canasta (didn't everyone used > to play cards for fun, instead of TV??? that's the way I grew up, from what > I remember), this is this single mother's answer to entertainment. > > Be blessed and be well, > for one more day, > > > At 05:32 PM 12/5/99 -0800, you wrote: > >Joe Peppe writes: > > > >> What kind of Magnesium do you take? Liquid? Do you endorse the Water Oz > >> company liquid minerals by that inventor Mr. Bill Rich..(not MLM) He says > >> his are the only true usable ones cause he uses a laser somehow to split > >his > >> minerals up into an assimilatable form. Do you or anyone know the > >> authenticity of Bill Rich's claims? > > > >Joe, > > This is patently absurd. Each second of each day your body performs > >trillions of individual little chemical reactions. Each of these is a > >little experiment. These reactions usually fly, but over the course of our > >lives untold trillions of these reactions get screwed up. A few of these > > " experiments " lead to better ways for our nature to handle environmental > >assaults, etc. This is all done on an unconscious level. Bad reactions > >will eventually fall by the way side. Nature has eons of time and an > >infinite number of tricks to sort out every situation. > > Along comes a man (and like all of us, trying to make a buck) who > >concludes that all these years and through the zillions of reactions, nature > >has been processing minerals all wrong. Minerals are only assimulable if > >they have been zapped by a proprietary secret ray gun under his personal > >control. 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Guest guest Posted December 5, 1999 Report Share Posted December 5, 1999 Hello Joe, First of all I don't have cancer. I do have an obsessive interest in it. I wear a lot of hats but the one that I've worn the longest is that of medicinal chemist and clinical researcher. I have made hundreds and hundreds of otherwise unobtainable meds for cancer and certain other chronic diseases. I usually can't discuss these as I make them for various docs, clinics, small companies, etc. and in the info age everybody wants to keep their secrets. I don't ever betray secrets but I will nudge people in a propitious direction if asked. I no longer make GSH sublingual drops or sprays as they have a thio odor and the technology is outdated. I rarely mention on the lists the things that I do or sell, and if I do the purpose is not to sell. Thanks for the offer to send the tape, but it is hard for me too sit through a sales pitch. Magnesium > > > > Joe Peppe writes: > > > > > What kind of Magnesium do you take? Liquid? Do you endorse the Water Oz > > > company liquid minerals by that inventor Mr. Bill Rich..(not MLM) He > says > > > his are the only true usable ones cause he uses a laser somehow to split > > his > > > minerals up into an assimilatable form. Do you or anyone know the > > > authenticity of Bill Rich's claims? > > > > Joe, > > This is patently absurd. Each second of each day your body performs > > trillions of individual little chemical reactions. Each of these is a > > little experiment. These reactions usually fly, but over the course of > our > > lives untold trillions of these reactions get screwed up. A few of these > > " experiments " lead to better ways for our nature to handle environmental > > assaults, etc. This is all done on an unconscious level. Bad reactions > > will eventually fall by the way side. Nature has eons of time and an > > infinite number of tricks to sort out every situation. > > Along comes a man (and like all of us, trying to make a buck) who > > concludes that all these years and through the zillions of reactions, > nature > > has been processing minerals all wrong. Minerals are only assimulable if > > they have been zapped by a proprietary secret ray gun under his personal > > control. Mr. Bill Rich will permit you to survive--but for a price. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 1999 Report Share Posted December 5, 1999 QuestIVHealth has a micro-mineral thats organic and chelated. Check it out Love LloydAt 08:38 PM 12/5/99 -0600, you wrote: >, >I second that witness on Albion Labs. Mr. Albion holds the only patent on >real chelation of a mineral. Everyone else is either a liar or they stole >his chelation process and are using it illegally. >My x wife taught me canasta, havn't played for about 15 years but enjoyed it >and I havn't owned a T.V. for three. >drpeppe@... > > Re: Magnesium > > >> Hmmm, should I speak or hold my peace. >> >> Let's just say, I like to use amino acid chelates, my " preference " . I >like >> the liquid for absorbtion (it's quicker), but that doesn't mean better. >> And my " favorite " lab is Albion Labs who makes minerals for Futurebiotics. >> >> Magnesium being what it is, I'm sure that the Walmart brand would suffice >> as well. I'm just a " nutrition snob " I suppose. Whatever I am, I only >use >> nutrition that " works " , so if I don't notice any changes, I don't use it. >> >> I've been on numerous cleansing programs that were a total waste and wash >> of cash. Which leads us into another discussion entirely, but we won't go >> there now. Save that for later. I'm still chewing my cud on water >safety, >> toxins and drugs in my water supply, and the problems with the hormones in >> milk. >> >> I further declare, that the planet is unsafe, and that everything that you >> have learned in school is useless for real life. It's becoming >increasing >> clear that Einstein should have been elected to president with his well >> known slogan, " Today's problems will never be solved in the consciousness >> in which they were created " . >> >> I think that in our efforts to dissect, and choose the right products that >> we can economically justify, etc, etc, we lose sight of the BIG PICTURE. >> >> ESSENTIALS. >> >> We need to focus on the essentials. Such as, how many of us ate 5 >servings >> of RAW, whole, green leafy veggies. It's 9pm, EST, and my kids are in >bed. >> I'm FINALLY going to get my salad for the day. (if I was in the mood, I >> start a rant about how I took my Master Formula religiously today, but I >> dare not go there with the current MLM backlash we are experiencing.) >> >> In the meantime, my favorite stress-buster of late, is going to >> http://www. and playing canasta. If anyone would like to join >me, >> you can find me at the speedy genius's tables under the alias of >zeropoint. >> >> Canasta is wonderful, because it gives me an opportunity to practice my >> breathing exercises at the same time that I play. Absent any real friends >> locally, at least any interested in playing canasta (didn't everyone used >> to play cards for fun, instead of TV??? that's the way I grew up, from >what >> I remember), this is this single mother's answer to entertainment. >> >> Be blessed and be well, >> for one more day, >> >> >> At 05:32 PM 12/5/99 -0800, you wrote: >> >Joe Peppe writes: >> > >> >> What kind of Magnesium do you take? Liquid? Do you endorse the Water >Oz >> >> company liquid minerals by that inventor Mr. Bill Rich..(not MLM) He >says >> >> his are the only true usable ones cause he uses a laser somehow to >split >> >his >> >> minerals up into an assimilatable form. Do you or anyone know the >> >> authenticity of Bill Rich's claims? >> > >> >Joe, >> > This is patently absurd. Each second of each day your body performs >> >trillions of individual little chemical reactions. Each of these is a >> >little experiment. These reactions usually fly, but over the course of >our >> >lives untold trillions of these reactions get screwed up. A few of these >> > " experiments " lead to better ways for our nature to handle environmental >> >assaults, etc. This is all done on an unconscious level. Bad reactions >> >will eventually fall by the way side. Nature has eons of time and an >> >infinite number of tricks to sort out every situation. >> > Along comes a man (and like all of us, trying to make a buck) who >> >concludes that all these years and through the zillions of reactions, >nature >> >has been processing minerals all wrong. Minerals are only assimulable if >> >they have been zapped by a proprietary secret ray gun under his personal >> >control. 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Guest guest Posted December 5, 1999 Report Share Posted December 5, 1999 Did your unobtainable meds work for cancer? If so, what's the success rate? Just curious. On Sun, 5 Dec 1999, VGammill wrote: > Hello Joe, > First of all I don't have cancer. I do have an obsessive interest in > it. I wear a lot of hats but the one that I've worn the longest is that of > medicinal chemist and clinical researcher. I have made hundreds and > hundreds of otherwise unobtainable meds for cancer and certain other > chronic diseases. I usually can't discuss these as I make them for various > docs, clinics, small companies, etc. and in the info age everybody wants to > keep their secrets. I don't ever betray secrets but I will nudge people in > a propitious direction if asked. > I no longer make GSH sublingual drops or sprays as they have a thio > odor and the technology is outdated. I rarely mention on the lists the > things that I do or sell, and if I do the purpose is not to sell. > Thanks for the offer to send the tape, but it is hard for me too sit > through a sales pitch. > > > Magnesium > > > > > > > Joe Peppe writes: > > > > > > > What kind of Magnesium do you take? Liquid? Do you endorse the Water > Oz > > > > company liquid minerals by that inventor Mr. Bill Rich..(not MLM) He > > says > > > > his are the only true usable ones cause he uses a laser somehow to > split > > > his > > > > minerals up into an assimilatable form. Do you or anyone know the > > > > authenticity of Bill Rich's claims? > > > > > > Joe, > > > This is patently absurd. Each second of each day your body > performs > > > trillions of individual little chemical reactions. Each of these is a > > > little experiment. These reactions usually fly, but over the course of > > our > > > lives untold trillions of these reactions get screwed up. A few of > these > > > " experiments " lead to better ways for our nature to handle environmental > > > assaults, etc. This is all done on an unconscious level. Bad reactions > > > will eventually fall by the way side. Nature has eons of time and an > > > infinite number of tricks to sort out every situation. > > > Along comes a man (and like all of us, trying to make a buck) who > > > concludes that all these years and through the zillions of reactions, > > nature > > > has been processing minerals all wrong. Minerals are only assimulable > if > > > they have been zapped by a proprietary secret ray gun under his personal > > > control. Mr. Bill Rich will permit you to survive--but for a price. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Easy as one, two, FREE! FREE shipping, Gift Wrap and > ShimmerRing with any purchase at iBeauty.com We have > over 500 brands of fragrances, treatment, cosmetics. > http://clickhere./click/1790 > > -- Check out your group's private Chat room > -- ChatPage?listName=cures for cancer & m=1 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 1999 Report Share Posted December 5, 1999 Dr. , I presume, Thanks for answering me. And no, I'm not trying to sell you anything. However I am trying to get a free evaluation of what Mr.Bill Rich is talking about from someone who's opinion I respect. So what technology replaced the sublingual GSH spray? And in your opinion what do you mean by saying Immunocal is a low peformance product. I believe you said something to that effect about 100 e-mails ago. Are you hiring, I'm job hunting. Hey cures for cancers team go. We're ripping up the tele-wires on this website! At your service, drpeppe@... Magnesium > > > > > > > Joe Peppe writes: > > > > > > > What kind of Magnesium do you take? Liquid? Do you endorse the Water > Oz > > > > company liquid minerals by that inventor Mr. Bill Rich..(not MLM) He > > says > > > > his are the only true usable ones cause he uses a laser somehow to > split > > > his > > > > minerals up into an assimilatable form. Do you or anyone know the > > > > authenticity of Bill Rich's claims? > > > > > > Joe, > > > This is patently absurd. Each second of each day your body > performs > > > trillions of individual little chemical reactions. Each of these is a > > > little experiment. These reactions usually fly, but over the course of > > our > > > lives untold trillions of these reactions get screwed up. A few of > these > > > " experiments " lead to better ways for our nature to handle environmental > > > assaults, etc. This is all done on an unconscious level. Bad reactions > > > will eventually fall by the way side. Nature has eons of time and an > > > infinite number of tricks to sort out every situation. > > > Along comes a man (and like all of us, trying to make a buck) who > > > concludes that all these years and through the zillions of reactions, > > nature > > > has been processing minerals all wrong. Minerals are only assimulable > if > > > they have been zapped by a proprietary secret ray gun under his personal > > > control. Mr. Bill Rich will permit you to survive--but for a price. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Easy as one, two, FREE! FREE shipping, Gift Wrap and > ShimmerRing with any purchase at iBeauty.com We have > over 500 brands of fragrances, treatment, cosmetics. > http://clickhere./click/1790 > > -- Check out your group's private Chat room > -- ChatPage?listName=cures for cancer & m=1 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 1999 Report Share Posted December 5, 1999 Dear Lloyd, Can you type out the label of that for me. Does that QuestIVHealth have a phone # or any pertinant labeling info? At your service, drpeppe@... Re: Magnesium > > > > > >> Hmmm, should I speak or hold my peace. > >> > >> Let's just say, I like to use amino acid chelates, my " preference " . I > >like > >> the liquid for absorbtion (it's quicker), but that doesn't mean better. > >> And my " favorite " lab is Albion Labs who makes minerals for Futurebiotics. > >> > >> Magnesium being what it is, I'm sure that the Walmart brand would suffice > >> as well. I'm just a " nutrition snob " I suppose. Whatever I am, I only > >use > >> nutrition that " works " , so if I don't notice any changes, I don't use it. > >> > >> I've been on numerous cleansing programs that were a total waste and wash > >> of cash. Which leads us into another discussion entirely, but we won't go > >> there now. Save that for later. I'm still chewing my cud on water > >safety, > >> toxins and drugs in my water supply, and the problems with the hormones in > >> milk. > >> > >> I further declare, that the planet is unsafe, and that everything that you > >> have learned in school is useless for real life. It's becoming > >increasing > >> clear that Einstein should have been elected to president with his well > >> known slogan, " Today's problems will never be solved in the consciousness > >> in which they were created " . > >> > >> I think that in our efforts to dissect, and choose the right products that > >> we can economically justify, etc, etc, we lose sight of the BIG PICTURE. > >> > >> ESSENTIALS. > >> > >> We need to focus on the essentials. Such as, how many of us ate 5 > >servings > >> of RAW, whole, green leafy veggies. It's 9pm, EST, and my kids are in > >bed. > >> I'm FINALLY going to get my salad for the day. (if I was in the mood, I > >> start a rant about how I took my Master Formula religiously today, but I > >> dare not go there with the current MLM backlash we are experiencing.) > >> > >> In the meantime, my favorite stress-buster of late, is going to > >> http://www. and playing canasta. If anyone would like to join > >me, > >> you can find me at the speedy genius's tables under the alias of > >zeropoint. > >> > >> Canasta is wonderful, because it gives me an opportunity to practice my > >> breathing exercises at the same time that I play. Absent any real friends > >> locally, at least any interested in playing canasta (didn't everyone used > >> to play cards for fun, instead of TV??? that's the way I grew up, from > >what > >> I remember), this is this single mother's answer to entertainment. > >> > >> Be blessed and be well, > >> for one more day, > >> > >> > >> At 05:32 PM 12/5/99 -0800, you wrote: > >> >Joe Peppe writes: > >> > > >> >> What kind of Magnesium do you take? Liquid? Do you endorse the Water > >Oz > >> >> company liquid minerals by that inventor Mr. Bill Rich..(not MLM) He > >says > >> >> his are the only true usable ones cause he uses a laser somehow to > >split > >> >his > >> >> minerals up into an assimilatable form. Do you or anyone know the > >> >> authenticity of Bill Rich's claims? > >> > > >> >Joe, > >> > This is patently absurd. Each second of each day your body performs > >> >trillions of individual little chemical reactions. Each of these is a > >> >little experiment. These reactions usually fly, but over the course of > >our > >> >lives untold trillions of these reactions get screwed up. A few of these > >> > " experiments " lead to better ways for our nature to handle environmental > >> >assaults, etc. This is all done on an unconscious level. Bad reactions > >> >will eventually fall by the way side. Nature has eons of time and an > >> >infinite number of tricks to sort out every situation. > >> > Along comes a man (and like all of us, trying to make a buck) who > >> >concludes that all these years and through the zillions of reactions, > >nature > >> >has been processing minerals all wrong. Minerals are only assimulable if > >> >they have been zapped by a proprietary secret ray gun under his personal > >> >control. 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Guest guest Posted December 6, 1999 Report Share Posted December 6, 1999 Joyce asks: > > Did your unobtainable meds work for cancer? If so, what's the success > rate? Just curious. The things that I make and do are not unobtainable. I do my selling to clinics and then usually give them some sort of exclusive in exchange for funding. I try to stay out of marketing. Success rates are very deceptive. One should look at a prospective treatment the same way as buying real estate. One of the main things you look at is the neighborhood. You ask you practitioner about all similar cases of cancer he/she treated with various modalities. Ask of explanations for any failures. Beware of any practitioner who consistently blames the patient. For example, avoid the practitioner who says, " I found out later that the patient was sneaking tons of sugar behind my back. " On the other hand you can respect the practioner who says, " I failed to adequately explain to the patient the importance of avoiding sugar " or something similar. Sometimes patients die because they simply can't afford the treatment and you can't afford to carry everybody. Sometimes the patients want to die. Any practitioner can easily attain a 100% success rate by prescreening all clients. Such success rates are simply a marketing ploy. I prefer dealing with the more humane practitioners who will try to help a stage 4 even though they may have no immune system left and even less money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 1999 Report Share Posted December 6, 1999 Joe, I did not say Immunocal was a low performance product. One patient asked me for milk whey and I sent him to Debbie. I prefer being called by my first name and without any titles. I do not want to be mistaken for an MD. I do not want to wear that stigma. My opinion of a person usually drops about 200 notches when I find out that they are an MD. MD's are OK in the ER and maybe a few other things, but they are too brainwashed and too arrogant to retrain. I learned quite a bit recently from a village herbal doc in Cyprus. An MD came to him for treatment for his psoriasis cure. It was explained to the MD that because he was an MD he would be charged $8,000 -- which he paid. Anyone else would get the treatment free. We laughed long and hard over that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 1999 Report Share Posted December 6, 1999 Thankyou for clarifying this. I was beginning to get a little confused. Joe was beginning to call a few people by that title. Tony I knew for sure wasn't now I know somewhat sketchily what you do and having the titile of doctor is not one of them. I there fore thought it quite sarcastic and out of line giving you guys a title you never paid for. You could of been a doctor either of you and that is shown in your inteligence and knowledge of the things you share. It seems we keep attacking the same things, certainly not what I deem important. Importance would be whether something works, why it works and what it works for, not who made it, or who sells it, those issues should matter more after you have researched the important things. I thought maybe we were all getting back on track and the sarcasm and bickering was over. So Joe if you are reading this, please attack the things that matter, and quit putting unnessesary sarcastic barbs at good folks. Enough. This is to me totally non Christ like. It is so hard not to respond back in kind, but I want it to stop so please lets end the name calling, of good folks here or even company's you know nothing about. Debbie " vgammill " <ygammil-@...> wrote: original article:cures for cancer/?start=4366 > Joe, > I did not say Immunocal was a low performance product. One patient > asked me for milk whey and I sent him to Debbie. > I prefer being called by my first name and without any titles. I do > not want to be mistaken for an MD. I do not want to wear that stigma. My > opinion of a person usually drops about 200 notches when I find out that > they are an MD. MD's are OK in the ER and maybe a few other things, but > they are too brainwashed and too arrogant to retrain. > I learned quite a bit recently from a village herbal doc in Cyprus. An > MD came to him for treatment for his psoriasis cure. It was explained to > the MD that because he was an MD he would be charged $8,000 -- which he > paid. Anyone else would get the treatment free. We laughed long and hard > over that one. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 1999 Report Share Posted December 6, 1999 Re: Magnesium > Joyce asks: > > > > Did your unobtainable meds work for cancer? If so, what's the success > > rate? Just curious. > > The things that I make and do are not unobtainable. I do my selling to > clinics and then usually give them some sort of exclusive in exchange for > funding. I try to stay out of marketing. Success rates are very deceptive. > One should look at a prospective treatment the same way as buying real > estate. One of the main things you look at is the neighborhood. You ask > you practitioner about all similar cases of cancer he/she treated with > various modalities. Ask of explanations for any failures. Beware of any > practitioner who consistently blames the patient. > For example, avoid the practitioner who says, " I found out later that > the patient was sneaking tons of sugar behind my back. " > On the other hand you can respect the practioner who says, " I failed to > adequately explain to the patient the importance of avoiding sugar " or > something similar. > Sometimes patients die because they simply can't afford the treatment > and you can't afford to carry everybody. Sometimes the patients want to > die. Any practitioner can easily attain a 100% success rate by prescreening > all clients. Such success rates are simply a marketing ploy. I prefer > dealing with the more humane practitioners who will try to help a stage 4 > even though they may have no immune system left and even less money. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Easy as one, two, FREE! FREE shipping, Gift Wrap and > ShimmerRing with any purchase at iBeauty.com We have > over 500 brands of fragrances, treatment, cosmetics. > http://clickhere./click/1790 > > -- Check out your group's private Chat room > -- ChatPage?listName=cures for cancer & m=1 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 1999 Report Share Posted December 6, 1999 Sorry, I thought you mentioned somthing about watered down as opposed to your subligual batch. You are in another league from this farm boy. Joe Peppe Re: Magnesium > Joe, > I did not say Immunocal was a low performance product. One patient > asked me for milk whey and I sent him to Debbie. > I prefer being called by my first name and without any titles. I do > not want to be mistaken for an MD. I do not want to wear that stigma. My > opinion of a person usually drops about 200 notches when I find out that > they are an MD. MD's are OK in the ER and maybe a few other things, but > they are too brainwashed and too arrogant to retrain. > I learned quite a bit recently from a village herbal doc in Cyprus. An > MD came to him for treatment for his psoriasis cure. It was explained to > the MD that because he was an MD he would be charged $8,000 -- which he > paid. Anyone else would get the treatment free. We laughed long and hard > over that one. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Don't have the time or patience to search for unique > products & services? Then click to let us find them for you. > You Request, We Respond. hhtp://clickhere./click/1957 > > > > > > > > > -- 20 megs of disk space in your group's Document Vault > -- docvault/cures for cancer/?m=1 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 1999 Report Share Posted December 6, 1999 Sorry, Somehow I thougt Tony and were doctors. No sarcasm intended. Joe Peppe Re: Magnesium > > Thankyou for clarifying this. I was beginning to get a little confused. > Joe was beginning to call a few people by that title. Tony I knew for > sure wasn't now I know somewhat sketchily what you do and having the > titile of doctor is not one of them. I there fore thought it quite > sarcastic and out of line giving you guys a title you never paid for. > You could of been a doctor either of you and that is shown in your > inteligence and knowledge of the things you share. It seems we keep > attacking the same things, certainly not what I deem important. > Importance would be whether something works, why it works and what it > works for, not who made it, or who sells it, those issues should matter > more after you have researched the important things. I thought maybe we > were all getting back on track and the sarcasm and bickering was over. > So Joe if you are reading this, please attack the things that matter, > and quit putting unnessesary sarcastic barbs at good folks. Enough. > This is to me totally non Christ like. It is so hard not to respond > back in kind, but I want it to stop so please lets end the name > calling, of good folks here or even company's you know nothing about. > Debbie > > " vgammill " <ygammil-@...> wrote: > original article:cures for cancer/?start=4366 > > Joe, > > I did not say Immunocal was a low performance product. One > patient > > asked me for milk whey and I sent him to Debbie. > > I prefer being called by my first name and without any titles. > I do > > not want to be mistaken for an MD. I do not want to wear that > stigma. My > > opinion of a person usually drops about 200 notches when I find out > that > > they are an MD. MD's are OK in the ER and maybe a few other > things, but > > they are too brainwashed and too arrogant to retrain. > > I learned quite a bit recently from a village herbal doc in > Cyprus. An > > MD came to him for treatment for his psoriasis cure. It was > explained to > > the MD that because he was an MD he would be charged $8,000 -- which > he > > paid. Anyone else would get the treatment free. We laughed long > and hard > > over that one. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Don't have the time or patience to search for unique > products & services? Then click to let us find them for you. > You Request, We Respond. hhtp://clickhere./click/1957 > > > > > > > > > -- Create a poll/survey for your group! > -- vote?listname=cures for cancer & m=1 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 1999 Report Share Posted December 6, 1999 Joe, I do have a couple of doctorates and I'm sure many on the list do and just don't like to strut about like those MD crypto-obitiatrists. For those who don't have a dictionary handy, " crypto " is the root for " hidden " and " obitiatrist " is Dr. Kevorkian's term for those docs who openly euthanize patients. I think is an ND but I could really make her squirm if I called her, Her Excellency, Her Serenity, The Reverend Doctor Doctor Doctor Webster. I pay respect from the heart by addressing her by her first name. I know there are many on the list who think that their MD is the most wonderful doc in the world as they are trained and licensed to give the highest quality of pills from Merck and Lilly. I can say this, the only MD's I respect are mostly people no one has heard of. If down in Mexico is reading this, I must clarify that he is a good guy -- I know him. , if you are reading this, doesn't it make you uncomfortable to be in a profession where so many of your compadres are royal jerks; a profession that has been co-opted by the interests of big business? How did you avoid becoming an agent for Lilly, Merck and the rest? Re: Magnesium > Sorry, > Somehow I thougt Tony and were doctors. No sarcasm intended. > Joe Peppe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 1999 Report Share Posted December 6, 1999 Howdy , For the record, I completely rewrote the curriculum for the Trinity School of Health, http://www.trinityschool.com, ND program. I have taught NDs in a variety of classes regarding natural health. I have studied the entire curriculum as a Master Herbalist, as well, and incorporated some aspects of that program into my current views. I would NEVER call myself a ND, because I believe that it's misleading to the public, and my current experience with NDs leads much to be desired. I have been involved in the licensure, or not, of NDs, and worked as a paid lobbyist for many health schools and manufacturing companies who have a financial interest in our " health freedoms " . I call myself a naturopath, because that's what I am. I'm a teacher, educator, and wholistic practitioner in the most comprehensive sense of the word. I work with vibrational therapies, specifically computerized voice analysis to determine exact missing frequencies in the body, and can tell you what body systems are affected by looking at your voice print. In using essential oils, we are able to quickly restore " electricity " to the body. By restoring this energy pattern, other shifts in health occur as homeostatis returns. Vitality and vibration comes before the inert minerals and their co-factors can be assimilated and utilized by the body. If the " light " in the body goes out, no healing can occur. All the other magic pills are gravy, on the Thanksgiving platter. Always be well, PS. , if you want, you can call me sensei, k? Can I still call you " dear " ? At 12:21 PM 12/6/99 -0800, you wrote: >Joe, > I do have a couple of doctorates and I'm sure many on the list do and >just don't like to strut about like those MD crypto-obitiatrists. For those >who don't have a dictionary handy, " crypto " is the root for " hidden " and > " obitiatrist " is Dr. Kevorkian's term for those docs who openly euthanize >patients. I think is an ND but I could really make her squirm if I >called her, Her Excellency, Her Serenity, The Reverend Doctor Doctor Doctor >Webster. I pay respect from the heart by addressing her by her >first name. > I know there are many on the list who think that their MD is the most >wonderful doc in the world as they are trained and licensed to give the >highest quality of pills from Merck and Lilly. I can say this, the only >MD's I respect are mostly people no one has heard of. > If down in Mexico is reading this, I must clarify that he is a >good guy -- I know him. , if you are reading this, doesn't it make you >uncomfortable to be in a profession where so many of your compadres are >royal jerks; a profession that has been co-opted by the interests of big >business? How did you avoid becoming an agent for Lilly, Merck and the >rest? > > > > > Re: Magnesium > > >> Sorry, >> Somehow I thougt Tony and were doctors. No sarcasm intended. >> Joe Peppe > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Was the salesman clueless? Productopia has the answers. >http://clickhere./click/1702 > > > >eGroups.com Home: cures for cancer/ > - Simplifying group communications > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2000 Report Share Posted January 16, 2000 I started taking magnesium tablets a few years ago and it was very helpful with pain control. When I added malic acid about a year after starting the magnesium I had maximum benefit for FM type pain. It was about a 10-20% reduction in FM pain, and seemed to even out flares which had been really debilitating. That amount of pain relief may not sound like much, but when you have really horrible pain, any improvement is welcome. About three months into my taking magnesium, I saw my CFS specialist, and she was impressed enough by my experience to add magnesium injections to my regimen. I didn't notice any additional benefit from the injections, so after about a month I stopped taking them, stayed on the oral mag, and eventually added malic acid. I can't remember the name of the local anesthetic that I mixed with the magnesium, but it is essential to mix the two or the shot is intolerably painful. It would be tough to give yourself a shot that painful without flinching, and that can be dangerous; needle breakage while the needle is in your muscle is the hazard that comes to mind. While I'm on the subject of shots, I also tried a few months of B12, with no noticeable improvement, also Kutapressin for a few months with no noticeable improvement. Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2000 Report Share Posted January 16, 2000 to anyone who is considering trying malic acid/magnesium; I got major relief of fibro pain symptoms; about 75% better; but I tried it 3 years ago for 3 weeks and it did nothing; then I read that while on the supplement it takes 8-10 months with FMS/CFS to replace your magnesium deficits; so a year ago I started again and in about 5 weeks I started to see improvement; then the major pain reduction slowly came over the next 6 months with 75mg 3 times/day. What i take is called " malic relief formula " from Biochem and it has some herbs in it with devil's claw and chromium. If your stomache can handle it I've read its best to take between meals. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2000 Report Share Posted January 17, 2000 Tim, No, I don't know about the oligo-minerals, but I'll ask my doc when I see him and when I get the chance I'll see if Medline has anything on it. The German form was called, I think, " magnesium hydrochloride aspartate. " Magnesium aspartate became available in liquid form quite a while back, by Twin Labs. I took it and it did nothing. Dr. Seelig, the mag researcher, said there was a difference between the two. But when I talked with her six months ago she seemed less impressed by what ion the mag was " bonded " to or " chelated " to (sorry but I'm no chemist), and suggested I take plain old-fashioned mag oxide. We had so much catching up, and her call took me by such utter surprise that I wasn't as sharp as I should have been, e.g., to ask her why she seems to have put less emphasis on the above. ly if I could get the form she said was then only available from Germany I'd love to try it (for old times sake and also on the chance it would be more effective). But I'm so busy with so many aspects of my illness and life I don't have time/energy to pursue it. I might fax her about it, and if I do and get a response I'll post. My last fax to her went unanswered. That surprised me, as up till then she was very responsive. Either (I hope not) she's ill OR since I put her in touch with my current doc she feels she must go the professional route, and though my doc is good is sorta loused up in not getting back to her when he very much should have. As a patient even an assertive one you only have so much control. If anyone hears about mag hydrochloride aspartate (or maybe it was mag asp hydrochloride. . .it's been years), do post. Tim, if you find out more about the oligos, do let us know. Anything Cheney is associated with interests me very much. I think he's a marvelous thinker and seems to be an excellent clinician. Judith Wisdom On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:42:46 -0500 charles c campbell <candtcampbell@...> writes: > From: charles c campbell <candtcampbell@...> > > Judith, > > Do you suppose that German form of magnesium is available these > days? I > got the impression from your post that it's been quite some time > since > your magnesium researcher mentioned it to you. > > Also, do you know anything about oligo-minerals? I saw it in Cheney's > office a while back but didn't ask him about it. > > Tim > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2000 Report Share Posted June 18, 2000 > NOw is not available in my area. Is there any way, over the internet, to > find information or purchase their products? > Here is the NOW Foods address: 550 Road Glendale Heights, IL 60139 (630) 545-9000 Their website is http://www.nowvitamins.com I haven't found a supplements site that carries a full line of their products yet. You might e-mail them for info. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2000 Report Share Posted August 14, 2000 Steve, Do I understand correctly that you took 1cc. inj. daily? a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2000 Report Share Posted August 14, 2000 Where can I find this info to show my doc? He is afraid to give me 2 cc. a week.... a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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