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Hi

This isn't exactly nutrition, but there is something called Modifilan which is

supposed to pull out toxic metals. It is made from seaweed and supposedly

improves a lot of people's thyroids who take it.

Doris

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Can people tell me nutritionally what are the best things for thyroid and

Adrenal glands???

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Cows need a LOT of salt. My mother was raised on a dairy and she told

me about this, dairies must keep salt licks around to keep the cows

healthy. Also they add salt to the feed. Milk has a lot of salt and so

lactating cows require extra. Milk production goes down if the cows do

not have enough salt in their diet. In fact, I read in one place that

cows will lick dirt, urine and even manure to get salt if it is not in

their food. They REALLY want their salt.

Here some interesting info from http://www.saltinstitute.org/47c.html.

Very interesting that the natural salt appetite is for BOTH sodium and

chloride, and not just sodium.

Appetite for salt

Animals have a more well defined appetite for sodium chloride than any

other compound in nature except water. Ruminants have such a strong

appetite for sodium that the exact location of salt source is

permanently imprinted into their memory which they can then return to

when they become deficient. Bell (133) showed that when steers were

trained to receive their sodium in response to pressing a panel, maximum

effort to receive the sodium occurred at eight days and after, on a

sodium deficient diet. Cattle also have a keen sense of smell for sodium

(192). Sodium deficient steers were offered a cafeteria of 12 buckets of

water with only one containing moderate levels of sodium salts. Steers

would quickly choose the water containing sodium salts without having to

taste the water sources.

Horses have been shown to have a specific appetite for salt if the diet

is deficient in sodium (132). This is not true for the other nutrients.

For example, horses do not develop a preference for calcium supplements

when fed a calcium deficient diet (193). This natural appetite for salt

is what makes salt such an excellent delivery mechanism for other

nutrients that need to be consumed regularly, but where a natural

appetite is lacking. The 1984 NRC Beef Cattle committee (157) recognized

this fact in stating that minerals lacking in the diet can be provided

by " self-feeding " common salt-mineral mixtures when the mixture is

consumed in amounts to satisfy the animals' appetite for salt.

Cattle are also able to detect when they are chloride deficient. In a

Cornell study, lactating cows fed a chloride deficient diet (.18%

chloride) consumed 337 grams of salt a week while those fed the chloride

adequate diet (0.40% chloride) ate 149 grams per week (134). Sodium

levels were adequate so that cows were consuming the salt to satisfy

their chloride requirement.

--Kurt

Re: Re: Vitamin C

Why do they give salt lick to cows?

Doris

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Kurt, That was a great answer to a very short question. I have two Australian

shepards that eat dirt every day...always from the same few places. Maybe they

know something we have forgotten. Mel

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In a message dated 12/28/05 9:12:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,

kz7m@... writes:

> i had an old uncle (70+) diagnosed with inoperable lung cancer and

> given just a few months to live. he sought " alternative " treatment of

> some vitamin " C " cocktail and ozone (???). treatments not covered by

> socialized medicine in Canada but was very reasonable cost. within

> two years he was and still is cancer free

In the USA, ozone is very expensive to do. I would be interested in the

source in Canada that does this treatment for 'a very reasonable cost.'

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Dr. Andrade,

Let her know what you would charge for this. her email is:

szukidavis@...

Virginia

szukidavis@... wrote:

In a message dated 12/28/05 9:12:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,

kz7m@... writes:

> i had an old uncle (70+) diagnosed with inoperable lung cancer and

> given just a few months to live. he sought " alternative " treatment of

> some vitamin " C " cocktail and ozone (???). treatments not covered by

> socialized medicine in Canada but was very reasonable cost. within

> two years he was and still is cancer free

In the USA, ozone is very expensive to do. I would be interested in the

source in Canada that does this treatment for 'a very reasonable cost.'

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In a message dated 1/15/06 11:37:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jennyhauf@... writes:

>

>

> Dr. Andrade,

> Let her know what you would charge for this. her email is:

> szukidavis@...

>

> Virginia

>

>

Wrong...mistake...this should be addressed to someone else.

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Hi Sheri,

I forwarded you post on Vitamin C and the dosage to a dear friend of mine

and was asked why you don't recommend Ester-C?

Timéa

Mom to (1991-02-20), Christian (1991-02-20), (1997-12-25),

(2002-07-04),

Doula, Certified Lactation Educator

In Churchill (Innisifil) Ontario

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In a message dated 7/20/2006 2:19:33 P.M. Central Standard Time,

ruizfam6@... writes:

Hello. I was wondering if anyone was familiar w/ the Emer'gen-C

products? They make one for children...the box says

500 mg Vitamin C as Seven Mineral Ascorbates

32 Active Mineral Complexes (magnesium, zinc, potassium etc..) plus

Vitamins A,B's, D, E & K

Thanks!!

Tania

I dus them (the Kool-Aid like packets that you add to 6 oz of

water)...curious to hear if they are any good or not..

Amy

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Hi Tania,

My mother brought me up with big ideas about Vit C. I am in no way

going to belittle the importance of Vit C. I am in school for

Chiropractics right now. In my nutrition class the Dr. had lots of

wonderful things to say about it. However, he said not to give Vit C

to children because it can cause decay of tooth enamel. I used to give

it to my kids but then stopped after that. I do NOT supplement with

fluoride because of the toxicity (that's another topic) and I don't

want to take the chance of ruining their teeth. I did use the Emer'gen-

C twice. My kids didn't like it. It was very fizzy. They don't drink

soda, so they are not use to that. I tasted it and was not fond of it

myself. We were given good sources of Vit C to get it in our system a

more natural way: Broccili, cantaloupe, red peppers, citrus fruit,

strawberries, acerole(nut).

I hope this helps, but do what you feel is best.

Tammy :)

>

> Hello. I was wondering if anyone was familiar w/ the Emer'gen-C

> products? They make one for children...the box says

>

> 500 mg Vitamin C as Seven Mineral Ascorbates

>

> 32 Active Mineral Complexes (magnesium, zinc, potassium etc..) plus

> Vitamins A,B's, D, E & K

>

>

> Thanks!!

> Tania

>

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Tammy,

Chewable Vit.C is indeed not so good for teeth, but you can always use something

like this:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002JI20E/103-8316267-8439827?v=glance & n=37609\

01

It is buffered and its ph is very close to that of our bodies, and it is in the

form of salt, not acid. It is powdered, and should be dissolved in

water/juice/other drink. Very potent form. Tastes a little bit like salt, but

MUCH LESS salty, less intense taste. My both kids drink it ok dissolved in plain

water. Not sure they even realize it isn't jsut water, so mild the taste is

(depends on the dose though). I like it because the form is good for the whole

family, including the baby.

I guess you would need to eat a truck load of broccoli to get 5000mg of vit C,

LOL, - this is how much I usually take when I have an acute illness.

Olga

Re: Vitamin C

Hi Tania,

My mother brought me up with big ideas about Vit C. I am in no way

going to belittle the importance of Vit C. I am in school for

Chiropractics right now. In my nutrition class the Dr. had lots of

wonderful things to say about it. However, he said not to give Vit C

to children because it can cause decay of tooth enamel. I used to give

it to my kids but then stopped after that. I do NOT supplement with

fluoride because of the toxicity (that's another topic) and I don't

want to take the chance of ruining their teeth. I did use the Emer'gen-

C twice. My kids didn't like it. It was very fizzy. They don't drink

soda, so they are not use to that. I tasted it and was not fond of it

myself. We were given good sources of Vit C to get it in our system a

more natural way: Broccili, cantaloupe, red peppers, citrus fruit,

strawberries, acerole(nut).

I hope this helps, but do what you feel is best.

Tammy :)

>

> Hello. I was wondering if anyone was familiar w/ the Emer'gen-C

> products? They make one for children...the box says

>

> 500 mg Vitamin C as Seven Mineral Ascorbates

>

> 32 Active Mineral Complexes (magnesium, zinc, potassium etc..) plus

> Vitamins A,B's, D, E & K

>

>

> Thanks!!

> Tania

>

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I am a huge respecter of the therapeutic properties of Vitamin C, but my

personal view is that what we assimilate from food sources is probably of

much greater value than synthetic Vitamin C we get in supplements. A bit

like when you breastfeed, people tell you there's not much iron in

breastmilk. Good point - there isn't - but the iron that is in breastmilk

is much more bioavailable to the baby than any *exogenous* iron source, and

far more is absorbed and utilised.

I've not considered the aspect of vitamin C and tooth decay - but it sort of

makes sense given that the most commonly-found form is ascorbic acid - and

no acid is going to be good for tooth enamel....

Sue

>

> Hi Tania,

> My mother brought me up with big ideas about Vit C. I am in no way

> going to belittle the importance of Vit C. I am in school for

> Chiropractics right now. In my nutrition class the Dr. had lots of

> wonderful things to say about it. However, he said not to give Vit C

> to children because it can cause decay of tooth enamel. I used to give

> it to my kids but then stopped after that. I do NOT supplement with

> fluoride because of the toxicity (that's another topic) and I don't

> want to take the chance of ruining their teeth. I did use the Emer'gen-

> C twice. My kids didn't like it. It was very fizzy. They don't drink

> soda, so they are not use to that. I tasted it and was not fond of it

> myself. We were given good sources of Vit C to get it in our system a

> more natural way: Broccili, cantaloupe, red peppers, citrus fruit,

> strawberries, acerole(nut).

> I hope this helps, but do what you feel is best.

> Tammy :)

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<<<I am a huge respecter of the therapeutic properties of Vitamin C, but my

personal view is that what we assimilate from food sources is probably of

much greater value than synthetic Vitamin C we get in supplements.>>>

Totally agree! I also think that natural vitamins that we get from foods are

superior to any form of bottled vitamins. However, I also think that soil today

is so depleted of vital nutrients, that vegatables and fruits (organic or not)

don't supply enough vitamins and minerals for us anymore...

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Hi Olga,

Thanks for the link and just wanted to say that Sodium Ascorbate

does not absorb into your body the way natrual Vit c does. I have

recently just found this out because I always thought that they were

the same thing. After doing research I found the difference.

5000mg WOW! We also learned that Echinacea is way better and more

effective in fighting colds/illness. Give it a try and see if it

works for you. I used to take 2000mg of Vit C every hour for 3

hours, then 1000mg of Vit C every hour after that. I switched to

Echinacea after learning this and what a difference I saw. I also

break the capsule open and put it in my childrens yogurt for them

during the onset of a cold.

Tammy :)

>

> Tammy,

> Chewable Vit.C is indeed not so good for teeth, but you can always

use something like this:

> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002JI20E/103-8316267-8439827?

v=glance & n=3760901

> It is buffered and its ph is very close to that of our bodies, and

it is in the form of salt, not acid. It is powdered, and should be

dissolved in water/juice/other drink. Very potent form. Tastes a

little bit like salt, but MUCH LESS salty, less intense taste. My

both kids drink it ok dissolved in plain water. Not sure they even

realize it isn't jsut water, so mild the taste is (depends on the

dose though). I like it because the form is good for the whole

family, including the baby.

> I guess you would need to eat a truck load of broccoli to get

5000mg of vit C, LOL, - this is how much I usually take when I have

an acute illness.

> Olga

>

>

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Tammy,

We use both vitamin C and echinacea. They work in a different way and carry

different value for our bodies, and I don't think one can be substituted by

another. Yes, echinacea works wonderfully! We use liquid acohol-free tincture of

root for the kids, and take capsules oureselves when sick or getting there. As

for vitamin C, I split 5000mg into 3-4 doses and take them morning to late

evening. I also take a lot of garlic in capsules when sick, and some zinc. This

combination works pretty well most of the time.

Did you come across some alerts about Sodium Ascorbate? Or did you read that it

is absorbed poorly?

Olga

Re: Vitamin C

Hi Olga,

Thanks for the link and just wanted to say that Sodium Ascorbate

does not absorb into your body the way natrual Vit c does. I have

recently just found this out because I always thought that they were

the same thing. After doing research I found the difference.

5000mg WOW! We also learned that Echinacea is way better and more

effective in fighting colds/illness. Give it a try and see if it

works for you. I used to take 2000mg of Vit C every hour for 3

hours, then 1000mg of Vit C every hour after that. I switched to

Echinacea after learning this and what a difference I saw. I also

break the capsule open and put it in my childrens yogurt for them

during the onset of a cold.

Tammy :)

>

> Tammy,

> Chewable Vit.C is indeed not so good for teeth, but you can always

use something like this:

> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002JI20E/103-8316267-8439827?

v=glance & n=3760901

> It is buffered and its ph is very close to that of our bodies, and

it is in the form of salt, not acid. It is powdered, and should be

dissolved in water/juice/other drink. Very potent form. Tastes a

little bit like salt, but MUCH LESS salty, less intense taste. My

both kids drink it ok dissolved in plain water. Not sure they even

realize it isn't jsut water, so mild the taste is (depends on the

dose though). I like it because the form is good for the whole

family, including the baby.

> I guess you would need to eat a truck load of broccoli to get

5000mg of vit C, LOL, - this is how much I usually take when I have

an acute illness.

> Olga

>

>

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I personally don't take them daily, just use Emergen-C with the onset of a cold,

and drank it during labor (which was GREAT). I have good results when using it

for a cold, but I don't know about as a daily supplement (I'm don't take

vitamins, etc.).

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Misty,

can you please tell more about VitC during labor? what does it do?

Olga

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I personally don't take them daily, just use Emergen-C with the onset of a

cold, and drank it during labor (which was GREAT). I have good results when

using it for a cold, but I don't know about as a daily supplement (I'm don't

take vitamins, etc.).

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Olga,

I was mistaken Sodium Ascorbate, good stuff. Ascorbic Acid- not Vit

C. This link explains the difference. Sorry about the confusion.

http://www.regenerativenutrition.com/content.asp?id=420

Tammy :)

> >

> > Tammy,

> > Chewable Vit.C is indeed not so good for teeth, but you can

always

> use something like this:

> > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002JI20E/103-8316267-

8439827?

> v=glance & n=3760901

> > It is buffered and its ph is very close to that of our bodies,

and

> it is in the form of salt, not acid. It is powdered, and should

be

> dissolved in water/juice/other drink. Very potent form. Tastes a

> little bit like salt, but MUCH LESS salty, less intense taste.

My

> both kids drink it ok dissolved in plain water. Not sure they

even

> realize it isn't jsut water, so mild the taste is (depends on

the

> dose though). I like it because the form is good for the whole

> family, including the baby.

> > I guess you would need to eat a truck load of broccoli to get

> 5000mg of vit C, LOL, - this is how much I usually take when I

have

> an acute illness.

> > Olga

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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We use metabolics plain vitamin c which my sniffer dog son does not

detect in his juice.

www.metabolics.com

>

> Hi again!

>

> Does anyone know of a good Vitamin C that is either in palatable (for

> squeamish 7 yo!) liquid form or undetectably dissolvable?

>

> I would like to give some to my daughter to ward off colds over the

> winter but she has a very low " Yuck " threshold!

>

> Thanks :-)

>

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Hi ,

A doc recently told me that one could take as much as 10 gr a day of Vit C.

He explained the process. Basically one cannot absorb more than X (1 gr?) a day.

But the way it works is that the rest, which is eliminated (in the urine),

carries the debris and toxins that are " cleaned up " by the Vit E (that's why you

should also take some vit E, with food or supplements.

But he warned me that I would get diarrhea with higher doses. Sure enough, when

I started doing over 2 gr a day (I was planning to raise to 4, but not all of a

sudden), I got diarrhea. After that I learnt that ascorbic acid is an irritant,

and should be taken with care.

I am now back on 1 gr, and may try again to rise the dose.

How did you start with your 5 gr a day? All of a sudden or you increased it

slowly?

Did you get any diarrhea?

Saludos,

----

Mazar Barnett

'I now belong to a higher cult of mortals, for I have seen the albatross!'

(R. C. , 1912)

Vitamin C

Hi all, - wondered if anyone knows of any natural anti-viral nutrients/natural

substances to fight EBV(epstein bar virus) and HPV. I know vit. C is a natural

antiviral - I take at least 5 grams a day - does anyone here take large doses of

vit. C daily? - I know Linus ing took over 10 gr. a day and other doctors

had success treating cancer/aids to varying degrees with high dose vit.

C(intervaneously). The Vitamin C Foundation has good info. on C and its

applications -

http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/

paul

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Hi ,

A doc recently told me that one could take as much as 10 gr a day of Vit C.

He explained the process. Basically one cannot absorb more than X (1 gr?) a day.

But the way it works is that the rest, which is eliminated (in the urine),

carries the debris and toxins that are " cleaned up " by the Vit E (that's why you

should also take some vit E, with food or supplements.

But he warned me that I would get diarrhea with higher doses. Sure enough, when

I started doing over 2 gr a day (I was planning to raise to 4, but not all of a

sudden), I got diarrhea. After that I learnt that ascorbic acid is an irritant,

and should be taken with care.

I am now back on 1 gr, and may try again to rise the dose.

How did you start with your 5 gr a day? All of a sudden or you increased it

slowly?

Did you get any diarrhea?

Saludos,

----

Mazar Barnett

'I now belong to a higher cult of mortals, for I have seen the albatross!'

(R. C. , 1912)

Vitamin C

Hi all, - wondered if anyone knows of any natural anti-viral nutrients/natural

substances to fight EBV(epstein bar virus) and HPV. I know vit. C is a natural

antiviral - I take at least 5 grams a day - does anyone here take large doses of

vit. C daily? - I know Linus ing took over 10 gr. a day and other doctors

had success treating cancer/aids to varying degrees with high dose vit.

C(intervaneously). The Vitamin C Foundation has good info. on C and its

applications -

http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/

paul

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,

ascorbic acid is an irritant so you should switch to

sodium ascorbate or calcium ascorbate, they are more

assimilible forms of vitamin C.

Sylvain

--- Mazar Barnett <juanmbarg@...> wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> A doc recently told me that one could take as much

> as 10 gr a day of Vit C.

> He explained the process. Basically one cannot

> absorb more than X (1 gr?) a day. But the way it

> works is that the rest, which is eliminated (in the

> urine), carries the debris and toxins that are

> " cleaned up " by the Vit E (that's why you should

> also take some vit E, with food or supplements.

>

> But he warned me that I would get diarrhea with

> higher doses. Sure enough, when I started doing over

> 2 gr a day (I was planning to raise to 4, but not

> all of a sudden), I got diarrhea. After that I

> learnt that ascorbic acid is an irritant, and should

> be taken with care.

>

> I am now back on 1 gr, and may try again to rise the

> dose.

> How did you start with your 5 gr a day? All of a

> sudden or you increased it slowly?

> Did you get any diarrhea?

>

> Saludos,

>

>

> ----

> Mazar Barnett

>

> 'I now belong to a higher cult of mortals, for I

> have seen the albatross!'

> (R. C. , 1912)

> Vitamin C

>

>

> Hi all, - wondered if anyone knows of any natural

> anti-viral nutrients/natural substances to fight

> EBV(epstein bar virus) and HPV. I know vit. C is a

> natural antiviral - I take at least 5 grams a day -

> does anyone here take large doses of vit. C daily? -

> I know Linus ing took over 10 gr. a day and

> other doctors had success treating cancer/aids to

> varying degrees with high dose vit.

> C(intervaneously). The Vitamin C Foundation has good

> info. on C and its applications -

> http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/

>

> paul

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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ascorbic acid is an irritant so you should switch to

sodium ascorbate or calcium ascorbate, they are more

assimilible forms of vitamin C.

Sylvain

--- Mazar Barnett <juanmbarg@...> wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> A doc recently told me that one could take as much

> as 10 gr a day of Vit C.

> He explained the process. Basically one cannot

> absorb more than X (1 gr?) a day. But the way it

> works is that the rest, which is eliminated (in the

> urine), carries the debris and toxins that are

> " cleaned up " by the Vit E (that's why you should

> also take some vit E, with food or supplements.

>

> But he warned me that I would get diarrhea with

> higher doses. Sure enough, when I started doing over

> 2 gr a day (I was planning to raise to 4, but not

> all of a sudden), I got diarrhea. After that I

> learnt that ascorbic acid is an irritant, and should

> be taken with care.

>

> I am now back on 1 gr, and may try again to rise the

> dose.

> How did you start with your 5 gr a day? All of a

> sudden or you increased it slowly?

> Did you get any diarrhea?

>

> Saludos,

>

>

> ----

> Mazar Barnett

>

> 'I now belong to a higher cult of mortals, for I

> have seen the albatross!'

> (R. C. , 1912)

> Vitamin C

>

>

> Hi all, - wondered if anyone knows of any natural

> anti-viral nutrients/natural substances to fight

> EBV(epstein bar virus) and HPV. I know vit. C is a

> natural antiviral - I take at least 5 grams a day -

> does anyone here take large doses of vit. C daily? -

> I know Linus ing took over 10 gr. a day and

> other doctors had success treating cancer/aids to

> varying degrees with high dose vit.

> C(intervaneously). The Vitamin C Foundation has good

> info. on C and its applications -

> http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/

>

> paul

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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Oh, I see...

thanks..

juan

----

Mazar Barnett

'I now belong to a higher cult of mortals, for I have seen the albatross!'

(R. C. , 1912)

Vitamin C

>

>

> Hi all, - wondered if anyone knows of any natural

> anti-viral nutrients/natural substances to fight

> EBV(epstein bar virus) and HPV. I know vit. C is a

> natural antiviral - I take at least 5 grams a day -

> does anyone here take large doses of vit. C daily? -

> I know Linus ing took over 10 gr. a day and

> other doctors had success treating cancer/aids to

> varying degrees with high dose vit.

> C(intervaneously). The Vitamin C Foundation has good

> info. on C and its applications -

> http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/

>

> paul

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juan

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(R. C. , 1912)

Vitamin C

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> Hi all, - wondered if anyone knows of any natural

> anti-viral nutrients/natural substances to fight

> EBV(epstein bar virus) and HPV. I know vit. C is a

> natural antiviral - I take at least 5 grams a day -

> does anyone here take large doses of vit. C daily? -

> I know Linus ing took over 10 gr. a day and

> other doctors had success treating cancer/aids to

> varying degrees with high dose vit.

> C(intervaneously). The Vitamin C Foundation has good

> info. on C and its applications -

> http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/

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