Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 34 is a pretty low value. You would probably feel better with it in the 60 - 90 range. Mine is around 64 and I feel better there. The way you get the levels up are to supplement with elemental iron and B6 (helps with storage which is what ferritin is - iron stores). Steph Hair Loss> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi everyone,> > >> > > I've been dealing with hair loss and deteriorating quality for several> > years. I've undergone treatment for hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue. I> > still take 60-90 mg Armour, but discontinued hydrocortisone/HC for adreanal> > fatigue after I started iodine earlier this year because felt more relief> > with it than I ever did with HC. Given it's negative side effects and the> > good reaction I felt with iodine initially, I felt it was better to wean off> > of HC and did so a few months ago.> > >> > > When I first started iodine, I noticed that my hair, which had become> > frail and thin over the last year especially, seemed to improve in quality> > and was not falling out nearly as much. The only problem with iodine was> > that it caused quick weight gain for me. After a few months of being very> > depressed about that (more so because I'm single and trying to date, and the> > weight gain has greatly affected my confidence), I stopped iodine for a few> > weeks back in May. I started to notice that I was not feeling well at all,> > so I resumed iodine again in mid-May. Right around that time, I started to> > notice that my hair started falling out more than ever. So much falls out> > that I'm stunned that I don't have bald spots.> > >> > > I was just wondering if anyone has any advice. I'm already going through> > a very rough time, but seeing my hair coming out constantly is causing> > additional stress for me, and I'm worried about the long term consequences> > of this.> > >> > > I should maybe mention that I don't have insurance, am unemployed and> > don't have the ability to do lab testing right now. Also, I've been taking> > what I believe to be about 30 mg of Lugol's (based on my dropper> > calibration) for 5 days in a row with 2 days off each week. I use at least> > 1.5 tsp of sea salt everyday, and 3000 mg vitamin C. I usually take all of> > the companion supplements as well. Also, I just did a "whole body" cleanse> > (kit by Enzymatic).> > >> > > Thank you,> > > Sherry> > >> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Gracia many do not feel comfortable " playing around " with their body to find what works. Part of this stems from not knowing what to do if something goes wrong. In her case she doesn't have insurance or a job. I have confidence in trying things because in most cases I know how to counteract things with other supplements. Many do not have this knowledge. Steph Re: Hair Loss > IMO you are taking very low doses of everything and I wonder why? why > not take iodine every day 50-100mg? most ppl take 3-5 grains of Armour > (180==300mg). then you can add enough HC back in and you will feel 100% > better. > Gracia > > > > > lookonthebriteside wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> I've been dealing with hair loss and deteriorating quality for several >> years. I've undergone treatment for hypothyroidism and adrenal >> fatigue. I still take 60-90 mg Armour, but discontinued >> hydrocortisone/HC for adreanal fatigue after I started iodine earlier >> this year because felt more relief with it than I ever did with HC. >> Given it's negative side effects and the good reaction I felt with >> iodine initially, I felt it was better to wean off of HC and did so a >> few months ago. >> >> When I first started iodine, I noticed that my hair, which had become >> frail and thin over the last year especially, seemed to improve in >> quality and was not falling out nearly as much. The only problem with >> iodine was that it caused quick weight gain for me. After a few months >> of being very depressed about that (more so because I'm single and >> trying to date, and the weight gain has greatly affected my >> confidence), I stopped iodine for a few weeks back in May. I started >> to notice that I was not feeling well at all, so I resumed iodine >> again in mid-May. Right around that time, I started to notice that my >> hair started falling out more than ever. So much falls out that I'm >> stunned that I don't have bald spots. >> >> I was just wondering if anyone has any advice. I'm already going >> through a very rough time, but seeing my hair coming out constantly is >> causing additional stress for me, and I'm worried about the long term >> consequences of this. >> >> I should maybe mention that I don't have insurance, am unemployed and >> don't have the ability to do lab testing right now. Also, I've been >> taking what I believe to be about 30 mg of Lugol's (based on my >> dropper calibration) for 5 days in a row with 2 days off each week. I >> use at least 1.5 tsp of sea salt everyday, and 3000 mg vitamin C. I >> usually take all of the companion supplements as well. Also, I just >> did a " whole body " cleanse (kit by Enzymatic). >> >> Thank you, >> Sherry >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------ > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group > IodineOT/ > > > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Directed to Sherry's questions and just giving her somethings to think about is all. The person that wrote the original question at bottom of this e-mail. from IllinoisFrom: spacejunkie2001us <scastor@...>iodine Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 10:11:43 AMSubject: Re: Hair Loss I think this is supposed to be directed at another poster. By God's grace, I am insured, employed and married And, short of losing some hair, I'm in darn good health! But, I do agree with you that a stressful environment can definitely exaccerbate our physical issues. > > > > > > I have been having issues with losing hair but it is low estrogen & progesterone that I believe are causing my issues. That may be the case for you as well. > > > > > > Do you consume good omega 3 fatty acids? That is a problem for me at times too. > > > > > > Unfortunately there are a lot of things that when imbalanced cause hair loss. I am still trying to fine tune my body to figure it out too. I used to have very thick hair and now it is not that way. It's frustrating - I understand. > > > > > > Steph > > > > > > > > > Hair Loss > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > I've been dealing with hair loss and deteriorating quality for several years. I've undergone treatment for hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue. I still take 60-90 mg Armour, but discontinued hydrocortisone/HC for adreanal fatigue after I started iodine earlier this year because felt more relief with it than I ever did with HC. Given it's negative side effects and the good reaction I felt with iodine initially, I felt it was better to wean off of HC and did so a few months ago. > > > > > > When I first started iodine, I noticed that my hair, which had become frail and thin over the last year especially, seemed to improve in quality and was not falling out nearly as much. The only problem with iodine was that it caused quick weight gain for me. After a few months of being very depressed about that (more so because I'm single and trying to date, and the weight gain has greatly affected my confidence), I stopped iodine for a few weeks back in May. I started to notice that I was not feeling well at all, so I resumed iodine again in mid-May. Right around that time, I started to notice that my hair started falling out more than ever. So much falls out that I'm stunned that I don't have bald spots. > > > > > > I was just wondering if anyone has any advice. I'm already going through a very rough time, but seeing my hair coming out constantly is causing additional stress for me, and I'm worried about the long term consequences of this. > > > > > > I should maybe mention that I don't have insurance, am unemployed and don't have the ability to do lab testing right now. Also, I've been taking what I believe to be about 30 mg of Lugol's (based on my dropper calibration) for 5 days in a row with 2 days off each week. I use at least 1.5 tsp of sea salt everyday, and 3000 mg vitamin C. I usually take all of the companion supplements as well. Also, I just did a "whole body" cleanse (kit by Enzymatic). > > > > > > Thank you, > > > Sherry > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 I've tried taking a higher dose of Armour and up to about 40 mg of HC. I didn't really feel better. The best I've felt since 1991 (when my symptoms started) is when I first started taking iodine. But with the toll it's taken on my appearance (weight gain and hair loss), and the profound depression I'm dealing with due to other issues, I'm not sure how much iodine is helping me feel better, although I'm sure it's helping somewhat. I did feel worse (physically) when I stopped for a couple of weeks in May. Sherry > >> > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> I've been dealing with hair loss and deteriorating quality for several > >> years. I've undergone treatment for hypothyroidism and adrenal > >> fatigue. I still take 60-90 mg Armour, but discontinued > >> hydrocortisone/HC for adreanal fatigue after I started iodine earlier > >> this year because felt more relief with it than I ever did with HC. > >> Given it's negative side effects and the good reaction I felt with > >> iodine initially, I felt it was better to wean off of HC and did so a > >> few months ago. > >> > >> When I first started iodine, I noticed that my hair, which had become > >> frail and thin over the last year especially, seemed to improve in > >> quality and was not falling out nearly as much. The only problem with > >> iodine was that it caused quick weight gain for me. After a few months > >> of being very depressed about that (more so because I'm single and > >> trying to date, and the weight gain has greatly affected my > >> confidence), I stopped iodine for a few weeks back in May. I started > >> to notice that I was not feeling well at all, so I resumed iodine > >> again in mid-May. Right around that time, I started to notice that my > >> hair started falling out more than ever. So much falls out that I'm > >> stunned that I don't have bald spots. > >> > >> I was just wondering if anyone has any advice. I'm already going > >> through a very rough time, but seeing my hair coming out constantly is > >> causing additional stress for me, and I'm worried about the long term > >> consequences of this. > >> > >> I should maybe mention that I don't have insurance, am unemployed and > >> don't have the ability to do lab testing right now. Also, I've been > >> taking what I believe to be about 30 mg of Lugol's (based on my > >> dropper calibration) for 5 days in a row with 2 days off each week. I > >> use at least 1.5 tsp of sea salt everyday, and 3000 mg vitamin C. I > >> usually take all of the companion supplements as well. Also, I just > >> did a " whole body " cleanse (kit by Enzymatic). > >> > >> Thank you, > >> Sherry > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group > > IodineOT/ > > > > > > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Since I have taken gluten out of my diet brain fog and depression is gone. I have suffered with depression most my life plus stomach troubles as far back as I can remember. Also since taking gluten out of my diet my body absorbs the vitamin and minerals from foods and the supplements I take. I can pop supplements all day but if my gi tracy isn't working properly then I'm just wasting my money.It was very hard to take wheat, barley and rye out of my diet. And just about everything processed, can and box has gluten in it. Wheat is a cross between two grasses. Man did that purposely, not a plant God put on the earth.A good book to read is the The Makers Diet by Jordan Rubin. Also I read a lot about gluten on-line about gluten and its long chain protein and how our bodies haven't evolved to digest this protein.Just another thing to think about Sherry. There are so many factors balancing out our bodies. from IllinoisFrom: lookonthebriteside <slehr05@...>iodine Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 11:25:17 AMSubject: Re: Hair Loss I've tried taking a higher dose of Armour and up to about 40 mg of HC. I didn't really feel better. The best I've felt since 1991 (when my symptoms started) is when I first started taking iodine. But with the toll it's taken on my appearance (weight gain and hair loss), and the profound depression I'm dealing with due to other issues, I'm not sure how much iodine is helping me feel better, although I'm sure it's helping somewhat. I did feel worse (physically) when I stopped for a couple of weeks in May. Sherry > >> > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> I've been dealing with hair loss and deteriorating quality for several > >> years. I've undergone treatment for hypothyroidism and adrenal > >> fatigue. I still take 60-90 mg Armour, but discontinued > >> hydrocortisone/HC for adreanal fatigue after I started iodine earlier > >> this year because felt more relief with it than I ever did with HC. > >> Given it's negative side effects and the good reaction I felt with > >> iodine initially, I felt it was better to wean off of HC and did so a > >> few months ago. > >> > >> When I first started iodine, I noticed that my hair, which had become > >> frail and thin over the last year especially, seemed to improve in > >> quality and was not falling out nearly as much. The only problem with > >> iodine was that it caused quick weight gain for me. After a few months > >> of being very depressed about that (more so because I'm single and > >> trying to date, and the weight gain has greatly affected my > >> confidence), I stopped iodine for a few weeks back in May. I started > >> to notice that I was not feeling well at all, so I resumed iodine > >> again in mid-May. Right around that time, I started to notice that my > >> hair started falling out more than ever. So much falls out that I'm > >> stunned that I don't have bald spots. > >> > >> I was just wondering if anyone has any advice. I'm already going > >> through a very rough time, but seeing my hair coming out constantly is > >> causing additional stress for me, and I'm worried about the long term > >> consequences of this. > >> > >> I should maybe mention that I don't have insurance, am unemployed and > >> don't have the ability to do lab testing right now. Also, I've been > >> taking what I believe to be about 30 mg of Lugol's (based on my > >> dropper calibration) for 5 days in a row with 2 days off each week. I > >> use at least 1.5 tsp of sea salt everyday, and 3000 mg vitamin C. I > >> usually take all of the companion supplements as well. Also, I just > >> did a "whole body" cleanse (kit by Enzymatic). > >> > >> Thank you, > >> Sherry > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group > > IodineOT/ > > > > > > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Thanks, Karin...That seems like a good deal. Sherry > > > > > > > > I looked at glutathione on vitacost.com, and it wasn't that expensive...The liposome version must be the expensive one. > > > > > > > > What do you think about me taking alpha lipoic acid with four silver fillings? I think ALA that was one the items on the list to increase your own production of glutathione...and one of the ones I'm not doing due to my silver fillings. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Steph...Is it necessary to take the B6 together WITH the iron supplement? I've been taking both, though one in the morning and the other at night. I was just wondering if it makes a difference to not take them at the same time. Thanks, Sherry > > > > > > > > I have been having issues with losing hair but it is low estrogen & > > > progesterone that I believe are causing my issues. That may be the case for > > > you as well. > > > > > > > > Do you consume good omega 3 fatty acids? That is a problem for me at > > > times too. > > > > > > > > Unfortunately there are a lot of things that when imbalanced cause hair > > > loss. I am still trying to fine tune my body to figure it out too. I used to > > > have very thick hair and now it is not that way. It's frustrating - I > > > understand. > > > > > > > > Steph > > > > > > > > > > > > Hair Loss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > I've been dealing with hair loss and deteriorating quality for several > > > years. I've undergone treatment for hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue. I > > > still take 60-90 mg Armour, but discontinued hydrocortisone/HC for adreanal > > > fatigue after I started iodine earlier this year because felt more relief > > > with it than I ever did with HC. Given it's negative side effects and the > > > good reaction I felt with iodine initially, I felt it was better to wean off > > > of HC and did so a few months ago. > > > > > > > > When I first started iodine, I noticed that my hair, which had become > > > frail and thin over the last year especially, seemed to improve in quality > > > and was not falling out nearly as much. The only problem with iodine was > > > that it caused quick weight gain for me. After a few months of being very > > > depressed about that (more so because I'm single and trying to date, and the > > > weight gain has greatly affected my confidence), I stopped iodine for a few > > > weeks back in May. I started to notice that I was not feeling well at all, > > > so I resumed iodine again in mid-May. Right around that time, I started to > > > notice that my hair started falling out more than ever. So much falls out > > > that I'm stunned that I don't have bald spots. > > > > > > > > I was just wondering if anyone has any advice. I'm already going through > > > a very rough time, but seeing my hair coming out constantly is causing > > > additional stress for me, and I'm worried about the long term consequences > > > of this. > > > > > > > > I should maybe mention that I don't have insurance, am unemployed and > > > don't have the ability to do lab testing right now. Also, I've been taking > > > what I believe to be about 30 mg of Lugol's (based on my dropper > > > calibration) for 5 days in a row with 2 days off each week. I use at least > > > 1.5 tsp of sea salt everyday, and 3000 mg vitamin C. I usually take all of > > > the companion supplements as well. Also, I just did a " whole body " cleanse > > > (kit by Enzymatic). > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > Sherry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 No I didn't make sure I did that. I don't think it is important. Steph Hair Loss> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Hi everyone,> > > >> > > > I've been dealing with hair loss and deteriorating quality for several> > > years. I've undergone treatment for hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue. I> > > still take 60-90 mg Armour, but discontinued hydrocortisone/HC for adreanal> > > fatigue after I started iodine earlier this year because felt more relief> > > with it than I ever did with HC. Given it's negative side effects and the> > > good reaction I felt with iodine initially, I felt it was better to wean off> > > of HC and did so a few months ago.> > > >> > > > When I first started iodine, I noticed that my hair, which had become> > > frail and thin over the last year especially, seemed to improve in quality> > > and was not falling out nearly as much. The only problem with iodine was> > > that it caused quick weight gain for me. After a few months of being very> > > depressed about that (more so because I'm single and trying to date, and the> > > weight gain has greatly affected my confidence), I stopped iodine for a few> > > weeks back in May. I started to notice that I was not feeling well at all,> > > so I resumed iodine again in mid-May. Right around that time, I started to> > > notice that my hair started falling out more than ever. So much falls out> > > that I'm stunned that I don't have bald spots.> > > >> > > > I was just wondering if anyone has any advice. I'm already going through> > > a very rough time, but seeing my hair coming out constantly is causing> > > additional stress for me, and I'm worried about the long term consequences> > > of this.> > > >> > > > I should maybe mention that I don't have insurance, am unemployed and> > > don't have the ability to do lab testing right now. Also, I've been taking> > > what I believe to be about 30 mg of Lugol's (based on my dropper> > > calibration) for 5 days in a row with 2 days off each week. I use at least> > > 1.5 tsp of sea salt everyday, and 3000 mg vitamin C. I usually take all of> > > the companion supplements as well. Also, I just did a "whole body" cleanse> > > (kit by Enzymatic).> > > >> > > > Thank you,> > > > Sherry> > > >> > >> > > > > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 , The only reason I haven't tried taking a higher amount of iodine is because I'm very worried that it could cause even MORE weight gain, and possibly even more hair loss (I'm not sure what the source of the hair loss is, but I know the weight gain is related to iodine/detox). I'm already in a VERY fragile state emotionally. I really can't tolerate an even bigger toll on my appearance. I'm taking 600 mg NAC per day. Do you know if that's a good amount? Thank you, Sherry > >I've looked into glutathione, just because I know it's a powerful > >antioxidant. However, if I recall correctly, my research indicated that > >it's not beneficial to take it as a supplement because it doesn't absorb > >well, or something like that. There are some suggestions on things you can > >do to help create it in your body, and I do several of them. But my > >understanding is that taking it as a glutathione supplement is not very > >effective. > > > >Do you believe otherwise, Steph? I will try it if you think it could make > >a difference. > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > --A.J. Muste > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 I agree that a lot of folks have benefited from Cutler's work, but I know a few people personally who suffered severe negative consequences (including one who paid Cutler as a consultant, & worked with him directly. She gets pretty irritated when people suggest that maybe she didn't follow the protocol correctly!) This suggests to me quite strongly that one size does not fit all.There are a lot of alternative practitioners who advocate the use of ALA without reference to mercury, & their patients often seem to do well, regardless. So the Cutler claims about the danger have always rather puzzled me. There are quite a few docs who should see serious problems in their patients if ALA were causing the problems that it is claimed to cause. There are so many variables, it is hard to say. Maybe those docs include something else in their protocol that counteracts the potential harm? If it works for somebody, I sure wouldn't want to see them stop it because it didn't work for somebody else.It has been suggested more than once on the list that weight gain when you are taking iodine is likely about detox issues -- about not being able to keep up with the level of detox you are achieving. So there is one issue that worries me a bit here. NAC is a glutathione precursor & promotes detox. ALA apparently promotes detox. MB12 supports methylation & promotes detox. If you are gaining weight because your detox pathways are overwhelmed, supplementing with other things that promote detox MIGHT be making the situation worse. Detox is an area where you can definitely get too much of a good thing. There is a school of thought that if you tough out a bad detox situation, it is worth it in the end, because you get rid of a lot of toxins. But most of us need to function in our daily lives. (Besides which there is a school of thought that if detoxing makes you sick, you aren't detoxing effectively anyway. Detoxing too fast is like having your septic system back up into your basement.)I have seen this consideration raised on other alternative health lists. A person is taking OSR or ALA or NAC & adds iodine or OSR or MB12 or whatever, & suddenly finds himself dealing with detox issues that he wasn't having before. If you are gaining weight because your body can't clear out the toxins you are shaking loose, adding NAC, ALA, or anything else that promotes detox COULD increase the problem. (This is often complicated by the fact that a person doesn't realize that something he has added promotes detox. Some supplements do more than one thing, & if you are told to take it for something other than detox, you may not realize that it promotes detox, too.) If the weight gain/hair loss is a detox issue, you need to open up the detox pathways more than you need to add another detoxing agent. A lot of people figure that if they are feeling lousy, taking a detox agent will help them feel better. But if too-rapid detox is the problem, increasing detox is not going to help you feel better, it's going to make you feel worse. If that is the case, you need to reduce the input of detoxing agents & do some serious liver/colon cleansing, FIR sauna, detox baths or whatever until the body has thrown off the backed up toxins. It seems like you should feel better once you have cleaned your body out enough.And then, I would say you probably need to be very slow & careful about adding detox agents back in.The problem, of course, is that some symptoms can have more than one possible cause. If the hair loss is hormonal, tinkering with the detox part of the equation might not help. (Though even there, I have read some recommendations to address hormonal problems with milk thistle & other things that improve the function of the liver.) So I am not going to tell you that what you need to do is reduce your detox until you have purged what is already shaken loose in your body. But I will suggest that that MIGHT be something to consider.AnneOn Jul 6, 2010, at 9:03 AM, ladybugsandbees wrote: How do you define "best". There isn't a way to do this. Everyone's body is different. He says no DMPS challenge yet I did one 2 times. He says no ALA w/ amalgam fillings. Yet I took it for 6 mos before removing them. He says take DMSA every 3 hours - I took it all at once at night. This is how my doctor's practice and many many others are doing it with their patients. Their patients are having success - or I know my doctor wouldn't use the protocol he uses. My other DO does IV chelation. I think as with all protocols we need to be careful in stating it is the best way to do something. Even with high dose iodine it isn't the best way to do things in all cases. I think stating that many have had good results with his protocol is a good way to state it. Just my humble opinion but I shy away from promoting anything as the best. Steph Hair Loss> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone,> > > > > > > > I've been dealing with hair loss and deteriorating quality for several years. I've undergone treatment for hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue. I still take 60-90 mg Armour, but discontinued hydrocortisone/HC for adreanal fatigue after I started iodine earlier this year because felt more relief with it than I ever did with HC. Given it's negative side effects and the good reaction I felt with iodine initially, I felt it was better to wean off of HC and did so a few months ago.> > > > > > > > When I first started iodine, I noticed that my hai! r, which had become frail and thin over the last year especially, seemed to improve in quality and was not falling out nearly as much. The only problem with iodine was that it caused quick weight gain for me. After a few months of being very depressed about that (more so because I'm single and trying to date, and the weight gain has greatly affected my confidence), I stopped iodine for a few weeks back in May. I started to notice that I was not feeling well at all, so I resumed iodine again in mid-May. Right around that time, I started to notice that my hair started falling out more than ever. So much! falls o ut that I'm stunned that I don't have bald spots.> > > > > > > > I was just wondering if anyone has any advice. I'm already going through a very rough time, but seeing my hair coming out constantly is causing additional stress for me, and I'm worried about the long term consequences of this.> > > > > > > > I should maybe mention that I don't have insurance, am unemployed and don't have the ability to do lab testing right now. Also, I've been taking what I believe to be about 30 mg of Lugol's (based on my dropper calibration) for 5 days in a row with 2 days off each week. I use at least 1.5 tsp of sea salt everyday, and 3000 mg vitamin C. I usually take all of the companion supplements as well. Also, I just did a "whole body" cleanse (kit by Enzymatic).> > > > > > > > Thank you,> > > > Sherry> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 great, thank you very much. I'm looking at iron supps now and I have black strap molasses I can take til then. I'll add in B6 too. This is recommended on the Stop the Madness site: http://www.vitacost.com/Flora-Floradix-Floravital-Iron-Herb-Yeast-Free#Ingredien\ tFacts > > > > > > > > I have been having issues with losing hair but it is low estrogen & > > > progesterone that I believe are causing my issues. That may be the case for > > > you as well. > > > > > > > > Do you consume good omega 3 fatty acids? That is a problem for me at > > > times too. > > > > > > > > Unfortunately there are a lot of things that when imbalanced cause hair > > > loss. I am still trying to fine tune my body to figure it out too. I used to > > > have very thick hair and now it is not that way. It's frustrating - I > > > understand. > > > > > > > > Steph > > > > > > > > > > > > Hair Loss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > I've been dealing with hair loss and deteriorating quality for several > > > years. I've undergone treatment for hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue. I > > > still take 60-90 mg Armour, but discontinued hydrocortisone/HC for adreanal > > > fatigue after I started iodine earlier this year because felt more relief > > > with it than I ever did with HC. Given it's negative side effects and the > > > good reaction I felt with iodine initially, I felt it was better to wean off > > > of HC and did so a few months ago. > > > > > > > > When I first started iodine, I noticed that my hair, which had become > > > frail and thin over the last year especially, seemed to improve in quality > > > and was not falling out nearly as much. The only problem with iodine was > > > that it caused quick weight gain for me. After a few months of being very > > > depressed about that (more so because I'm single and trying to date, and the > > > weight gain has greatly affected my confidence), I stopped iodine for a few > > > weeks back in May. I started to notice that I was not feeling well at all, > > > so I resumed iodine again in mid-May. Right around that time, I started to > > > notice that my hair started falling out more than ever. So much falls out > > > that I'm stunned that I don't have bald spots. > > > > > > > > I was just wondering if anyone has any advice. I'm already going through > > > a very rough time, but seeing my hair coming out constantly is causing > > > additional stress for me, and I'm worried about the long term consequences > > > of this. > > > > > > > > I should maybe mention that I don't have insurance, am unemployed and > > > don't have the ability to do lab testing right now. Also, I've been taking > > > what I believe to be about 30 mg of Lugol's (based on my dropper > > > calibration) for 5 days in a row with 2 days off each week. I use at least > > > 1.5 tsp of sea salt everyday, and 3000 mg vitamin C. I usually take all of > > > the companion supplements as well. Also, I just did a " whole body " cleanse > > > (kit by Enzymatic). > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > Sherry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 I tried floradix but it wasn't "strong enough" to raise my ferritin levels. My children take it and it works for them - they are 8 & 10. Steph Hair Loss> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Hi everyone,> > > >> > > > I've been dealing with hair loss and deteriorating quality for several> > > years. I've undergone treatment for hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue. I> > > still take 60-90 mg Armour, but discontinued hydrocortisone/HC for adreanal> > > fatigue after I started iodine earlier this year because felt more relief> > > with it than I ever did with HC. Given it's negative side effects and the> > > good reaction I felt with iodine initially, I felt it was better to wean off> > > of HC and did so a few months ago.> > > >> > > > When I first started iodine, I noticed that my hair, which had become> > > frail and thin over the last year especially, seemed to improve in quality> > > and was not falling out nearly as much. The only problem with iodine was> > > that it caused quick weight gain for me. After a few months of being very> > > depressed about that (more so because I'm single and trying to date, and the> > > weight gain has greatly affected my confidence), I stopped iodine for a few> > > weeks back in May. I started to notice that I was not feeling well at all,> > > so I resumed iodine again in mid-May. Right around that time, I started to> > > notice that my hair started falling out more than ever. So much falls out> > > that I'm stunned that I don't have bald spots.> > > >> > > > I was just wondering if anyone has any advice. I'm already going through> > > a very rough time, but seeing my hair coming out constantly is causing> > > additional stress for me, and I'm worried about the long term consequences> > > of this.> > > >> > > > I should maybe mention that I don't have insurance, am unemployed and> > > don't have the ability to do lab testing right now. Also, I've been taking> > > what I believe to be about 30 mg of Lugol's (based on my dropper> > > calibration) for 5 days in a row with 2 days off each week. I use at least> > > 1.5 tsp of sea salt everyday, and 3000 mg vitamin C. I usually take all of> > > the companion supplements as well. Also, I just did a "whole body" cleanse> > > (kit by Enzymatic).> > > >> > > > Thank you,> > > > Sherry> > > >> > >> > > > > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Sherry, I hope things get better for you soon. For hair, you might want to investigate dried stinging nettles. I learned about drinking herbal infusions at susunweed.com. Nettles is one of the infusions she recommends. All you need is a quart jar with a metal lid and nettles. Put in a quarter jar of nettle, fill to the top with boiling water, seal the lid. Do this at night and start drinking it the next day. Nettle infusion contains calcium, magnesium, phosphorous, chromium, iron, cobalt, potassium, manganese, selenium, silicon, the entire B complex, vitamins A C D and K, plus some protein. She also has recipes for nettle rinses for your hair that I haven't tried. Nettles are inexpensive, especially if you buy it by the pound. As for weight, I've not gained any since starting iodoral 18 months ago, but I haven't lost any either. When I gave up milk last year, I had been consuming 2 gallons a week, which is about 5000 calories. The milk replacements I used instead were a fraction of that, yet I didn't lose one mealy pound! Things finally turned around when I started using dinner recipes from Dr Cabot's book, The Liver Cleansing Diet. Mainly, it's everything from scratch, no red meat, no dairy. Since you're unemployed, presumably you'll have some time on your hands to actually do all that cooking. I suspect my problem, and perhaps yours, could be detox pathways not working well. It would be time and effort that represents a huge investment into improving your health, and it can be done with money you'd spend on food anyway. hope this helps. Jana On 7/6/2010 11:11 AM, lookonthebriteside wrote: > Interesting, Donna. I've not heard that before...Mine is definitely from all over...No bald patches whatsoever, thank god > > Sherry > > >>> >>>> I have been having issues with losing hair but it is low estrogen & progesterone that I believe are causing my issues. That may be the case for you as well. >>>> >>>> Do you consume good omega 3 fatty acids? That is a problem for me at times too. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately there are a lot of things that when imbalanced cause hair loss. I am still trying to fine tune my body to figure it out too. I used to have very thick hair and now it is not that way. It's frustrating - I understand. >>>> >>>> Steph >>>> >>>> >>>> Hair Loss >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> I've been dealing with hair loss and deteriorating quality for several years. I've undergone treatment for hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue. I still take 60-90 mg Armour, but discontinued hydrocortisone/HC for adreanal fatigue after I started iodine earlier this year because felt more relief with it than I ever did with HC. Given it's negative side effects and the good reaction I felt with iodine initially, I felt it was better to wean off of HC and did so a few months ago. >>>> >>>> When I first started iodine, I noticed that my hair, which had become frail and thin over the last year especially, seemed to improve in quality and was not falling out nearly as much. The only problem with iodine was that it caused quick weight gain for me. After a few months of being very depressed about that (more so because I'm single and trying to date, and the weight gain has greatly affected my confidence), I stopped iodine for a few weeks back in May. I started to notice that I was not feeling well at all, so I resumed iodine again in mid-May. Right around that time, I started to notice that my hair started falling out more than ever. So much falls out that I'm stunned that I don't have bald spots. >>>> >>>> I was just wondering if anyone has any advice. I'm already going through a very rough time, but seeing my hair coming out constantly is causing additional stress for me, and I'm worried about the long term consequences of this. >>>> >>>> I should maybe mention that I don't have insurance, am unemployed and don't have the ability to do lab testing right now. Also, I've been taking what I believe to be about 30 mg of Lugol's (based on my dropper calibration) for 5 days in a row with 2 days off each week. I use at least 1.5 tsp of sea salt everyday, and 3000 mg vitamin C. I usually take all of the companion supplements as well. Also, I just did a " whole body " cleanse (kit by Enzymatic). >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> Sherry >>>> >>>> >>> >> ________________________________ >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------ > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/ > > > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 any suggestions? > > > > > > > > > > I have been having issues with losing hair but it is low estrogen & > > > > progesterone that I believe are causing my issues. That may be the case for > > > > you as well. > > > > > > > > > > Do you consume good omega 3 fatty acids? That is a problem for me at > > > > times too. > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately there are a lot of things that when imbalanced cause hair > > > > loss. I am still trying to fine tune my body to figure it out too. I used to > > > > have very thick hair and now it is not that way. It's frustrating - I > > > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > Steph > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hair Loss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > I've been dealing with hair loss and deteriorating quality for several > > > > years. I've undergone treatment for hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue. I > > > > still take 60-90 mg Armour, but discontinued hydrocortisone/HC for adreanal > > > > fatigue after I started iodine earlier this year because felt more relief > > > > with it than I ever did with HC. Given it's negative side effects and the > > > > good reaction I felt with iodine initially, I felt it was better to wean off > > > > of HC and did so a few months ago. > > > > > > > > > > When I first started iodine, I noticed that my hair, which had become > > > > frail and thin over the last year especially, seemed to improve in quality > > > > and was not falling out nearly as much. The only problem with iodine was > > > > that it caused quick weight gain for me. After a few months of being very > > > > depressed about that (more so because I'm single and trying to date, and the > > > > weight gain has greatly affected my confidence), I stopped iodine for a few > > > > weeks back in May. I started to notice that I was not feeling well at all, > > > > so I resumed iodine again in mid-May. Right around that time, I started to > > > > notice that my hair started falling out more than ever. So much falls out > > > > that I'm stunned that I don't have bald spots. > > > > > > > > > > I was just wondering if anyone has any advice. I'm already going through > > > > a very rough time, but seeing my hair coming out constantly is causing > > > > additional stress for me, and I'm worried about the long term consequences > > > > of this. > > > > > > > > > > I should maybe mention that I don't have insurance, am unemployed and > > > > don't have the ability to do lab testing right now. Also, I've been taking > > > > what I believe to be about 30 mg of Lugol's (based on my dropper > > > > calibration) for 5 days in a row with 2 days off each week. I use at least > > > > 1.5 tsp of sea salt everyday, and 3000 mg vitamin C. I usually take all of > > > > the companion supplements as well. Also, I just did a " whole body " cleanse > > > > (kit by Enzymatic). > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > Sherry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 you gain weight because of toxins.if you will clean the liver ,then you can try to use a bit of self made ghee from a good unsalted butter.it works very good to release toxins stored in fat.you have to do it real slowly. On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:56 PM, lookonthebriteside <slehr05@...> wrote: Â , The only reason I haven't tried taking a higher amount of iodine is because I'm very worried that it could cause even MORE weight gain, and possibly even more hair loss (I'm not sure what the source of the hair loss is, but I know the weight gain is related to iodine/detox). I'm already in a VERY fragile state emotionally. I really can't tolerate an even bigger toll on my appearance. I'm taking 600 mg NAC per day. Do you know if that's a good amount? Thank you, Sherry > >I've looked into glutathione, just because I know it's a powerful > >antioxidant. However, if I recall correctly, my research indicated that > >it's not beneficial to take it as a supplement because it doesn't absorb > >well, or something like that. There are some suggestions on things you can > >do to help create it in your body, and I do several of them. But my > >understanding is that taking it as a glutathione supplement is not very > >effective. > > > >Do you believe otherwise, Steph? I will try it if you think it could make > >a difference. > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > --A.J. Muste > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Actually ALA is a powerful chelator when used in high amounts. And Steph, I totally agree with you. I did heavy metal detox with amalgams in my mouth while healing from cancer. I healed and I still have them in my mouth. And I currently use (for over 6 years) an organic multi-vitamin/mineral complex that contains 35 mg of ALA. In natural medicine there are many ways to get to the end goal. This is because none of us are cookie-cutters even though we may have similar or what looks to be the same health concerns as others. Some of these ways may be more effective or produce more consistent results than others; but it doesn’t mean they are the only way. Be Well Dr.L From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ladybugsandbees Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 11:04 AM iodine Subject: Re: Re: Hair Loss How do you define " best " . There isn't a way to do this. Everyone's body is different. He says no DMPS challenge yet I did one 2 times. He says no ALA w/ amalgam fillings. Yet I took it for 6 mos before removing them. He says take DMSA every 3 hours - I took it all at once at night. This is how my doctor's practice and many many others are doing it with their patients. Their patients are having success - or I know my doctor wouldn't use the protocol he uses. My other DO does IV chelation. I think as with all protocols we need to be careful in stating it is the best way to do something. Even with high dose iodine it isn't the best way to do things in all cases. I think stating that many have had good results with his protocol is a good way to state it. Just my humble opinion but I shy away from promoting anything as the best. Steph ----- Original Message ----- From: Mia Harrod iodine Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 10:48 AM Subject: RE: Re: Hair Loss I believe that cutlers way is the best way, but not the only way. ALA is a very powerful chelater, probably the most powerful, if you have mercury in your mouth it only makes sense not to do it. From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ladybugsandbees Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 7:03 AM iodine Subject: Re: Re: Hair Loss But here is the issue I have with this. Cutler is the only one who promotes this thought. I have not read it anywhere else. He is not the end all and be all in the mercury field. As I told you I did not use his chelation protocol and did just fine. According to him I should be a neurological mess. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mia Harrod iodine Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 12:03 AM Subject: RE: Re: Hair Loss I wouldn’t do that, not until you have the fillings removed, it can move the mercury all around badly. From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of lookonthebriteside Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 11:24 PM iodine Subject: Re: Hair Loss I looked at glutathione on vitacost.com, and it wasn't that expensive...The liposome version must be the expensive one. What do you think about me taking alpha lipoic acid with four silver fillings? I think ALA that was one the items on the list to increase your own production of glutathione...and one of the ones I'm not doing due to my silver fillings. > > > > > > > > I have been having issues with losing hair but it is low estrogen & progesterone that I believe are causing my issues. That may be the case for you as well. > > > > > > > > Do you consume good omega 3 fatty acids? That is a problem for me at times! too. > > > > > > > > Unfortunately there are a lot of things that when imbalanced cause hair loss. I am still trying to fine tune my body to figure it out too. I used to have very thick hair and now it is not that way. It's frustrating - I understand. > > > > > > > > Steph > > > > > > > > > > > > Hair Loss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > I've been dealing with hair loss and deteriorating quality for several years. I've undergone treatment for hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue. I still take 60-90 mg Armour, but discontinued hydrocortisone/HC for adreanal fatigue after I started iodine earlier this year because felt more relief with it than I ever did with HC. Given it's negative side effects and the good reaction I felt with iodine initially, I felt it was better to wean off of HC and did so a few months ago. > > > > > > > > When I first started iodine, I noticed that my hai! r, which had become frail and thin over the last year especially, seemed to improve in quality and was not falling out nearly as much. The only problem with iodine was that it caused quick weight gain for me. After a few months of being very depressed about that (more so because I'm single and trying to date, and the weight gain has greatly affected my confidence), I stopped iodine for a few weeks back in May. I started to notice that I was not feeling well at all, so I resumed iodine again in mid-May. Right around that time, I started to notice that my hair started falling out more than ever. So much! falls o ut that I'm stunned that I don't have bald spots. > > > > > > > > I was just wondering if anyone has any advice. I'm already going through a very rough time, but seeing my hair coming out constantly is causing additional stress for me, and I'm worried about the long term consequences of this. > > > > > > > > I should maybe mention that I don't have insurance, am unemployed and don't have the ability to do lab testing right now. Also, I've been taking what I believe to be about 30 mg of Lugol's (based on my dropper calibration) for 5 days in a row with 2 days off each week. I use at least 1.5 tsp of sea salt everyday, and 3000 mg vitamin C. I usually take all of the companion supplements as well. Also, I just did a " whole body " cleanse (kit by Enzymatic). > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > Sherry > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 I took biotics research Fe-Zyme and Pure Encapsulations B6-Complex and that was what finally raised my ferritin after over 2 years. Steph Hair Loss> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Hi everyone,> > > > >> > > > > I've been dealing with hair loss and deteriorating quality for several> > > > years. I've undergone treatment for hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue. I> > > > still take 60-90 mg Armour, but discontinued hydrocortisone/HC for adreanal> > > > fatigue after I started iodine earlier this year because felt more relief> > > > with it than I ever did with HC. Given it's negative side effects and the> > > > good reaction I felt with iodine initially, I felt it was better to wean off> > > > of HC and did so a few months ago.> > > > >> > > > > When I first started iodine, I noticed that my hair, which had become> > > > frail and thin over the last year especially, seemed to improve in quality> > > > and was not falling out nearly as much. The only problem with iodine was> > > > that it caused quick weight gain for me. After a few months of being very> > > > depressed about that (more so because I'm single and trying to date, and the> > > > weight gain has greatly affected my confidence), I stopped iodine for a few> > > > weeks back in May. I started to notice that I was not feeling well at all,> > > > so I resumed iodine again in mid-May. Right around that time, I started to> > > > notice that my hair started falling out more than ever. So much falls out> > > > that I'm stunned that I don't have bald spots.> > > > >> > > > > I was just wondering if anyone has any advice. I'm already going through> > > > a very rough time, but seeing my hair coming out constantly is causing> > > > additional stress for me, and I'm worried about the long term consequences> > > > of this.> > > > >> > > > > I should maybe mention that I don't have insurance, am unemployed and> > > > don't have the ability to do lab testing right now. Also, I've been taking> > > > what I believe to be about 30 mg of Lugol's (based on my dropper> > > > calibration) for 5 days in a row with 2 days off each week. I use at least> > > > 1.5 tsp of sea salt everyday, and 3000 mg vitamin C. I usually take all of> > > > the companion supplements as well. Also, I just did a "whole body" cleanse> > > > (kit by Enzymatic).> > > > >> > > > > Thank you,> > > > > Sherry> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Well, I only say that because Andy Cutler is a chemist and a scientist and has studied chelation using DMSA and ALA for 30 or 40 years in the lab. He says that any other way of taking it just picks up the mercury and moves it. He says that based on his research over all these years, there is no other way to successfully remove the mercury and he gives evidence and case studies to prove it. I am only repeating what he says. He used to have mercury poisoning himself. I know of others who have gotten well with IV chelation and cutler says that it does work, but it’s way too expensive for the average person and he is trying to make chelation affordable for everyone. Not trying to argue, these are just my opinions based on scientific evidence from a chemist how knows how mercury works and most doctors do not know how mercury works, even my own ND admitted that he never learned this stuff in school or after school. From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ladybugsandbeesSent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 12:04 PMiodine Subject: Re: Re: Hair Loss How do you define " best " . There isn't a way to do this. Everyone's body is different. He says no DMPS challenge yet I did one 2 times. He says no ALA w/ amalgam fillings. Yet I took it for 6 mos before removing them. He says take DMSA every 3 hours - I took it all at once at night. This is how my doctor's practice and many many others are doing it with their patients. Their patients are having success - or I know my doctor wouldn't use the protocol he uses. My other DO does IV chelation. I think as with all protocols we need to be careful in stating it is the best way to do something. Even with high dose iodine it isn't the best way to do things in all cases. I think stating that many have had good results with his protocol is a good way to state it. Just my humble opinion but I shy away from promoting anything as the best. Steph Hair Loss> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone,> > > > > > > > I've been dealing with hair loss and deteriorating quality for several years. I've undergone treatment for hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue. I still take 60-90 mg Armour, but discontinued hydrocortisone/HC for adreanal fatigue after I started iodine earlier this year because felt more relief with it than I ever did with HC. Given it's negative side effects and the good reaction I felt with iodine initially, I felt it was better to wean off of HC and did so a few months ago.> > > > > > > > When I first started iodine, I noticed that my hai! r, which had become frail and thin over the last year especially, seemed to improve in quality and was not falling out nearly as much. The only problem with iodine was that it caused quick weight gain for me. After a few months of being very depressed about that (more so because I'm single and trying to date, and the weight gain has greatly affected my confidence), I stopped iodine for a few weeks back in May. I started to notice that I was not feeling well at all, so I resumed iodine again in mid-May. Right around that time, I started to notice that my hair started falling out more than ever. So much! falls o ut that I'm stunned that I don't have bald spots.> > > > > > > > I was just wondering if anyone has any advice. I'm already going through a very rough time, but seeing my hair coming out constantly is causing additional stress for me, and I'm worried about the long term consequences of this.> > > > > > > > I should maybe mention that I don't have insurance, am unemployed and don't have the ability to do lab testing right now. Also, I've been taking what I believe to be about 30 mg of Lugol's (based on my dropper calibration) for 5 days in a row with 2 days off each week. I use at least 1.5 tsp of sea salt everyday, and 3000 mg vitamin C. I usually take all of the companion supplements as well. Also, I just did a " whole body " cleanse (kit by Enzymatic).> > > > > > > > Thank you,> > > > Sherry> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Dr. L, For someone who still has amalgams in their mouth, what is the maximum amount of ALA they should take on a daily basis? Thank you, Sherry > > > > > > > > > > I have been having issues with losing hair but it is low estrogen & > progesterone that I believe are causing my issues. That may be the case for > you as well. > > > > > > > > > > Do you consume good omega 3 fatty acids? That is a problem for me at > times! too. > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately there are a lot of things that when imbalanced cause > hair loss. I am still trying to fine tune my body to figure it out too. I > used to have very thick hair and now it is not that way. It's frustrating - > I understand. > > > > > > > > > > Steph > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hair Loss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > I've been dealing with hair loss and deteriorating quality for > several years. I've undergone treatment for hypothyroidism and adrenal > fatigue. I still take 60-90 mg Armour, but discontinued hydrocortisone/HC > for adreanal fatigue after I started iodine earlier this year because felt > more relief with it than I ever did with HC. Given it's negative side > effects and the good reaction I felt with iodine initially, I felt it was > better to wean off of HC and did so a few months ago. > > > > > > > > > > When I first started iodine, I noticed that my hai! r, which had > become frail and thin over the last year especially, seemed to improve in > quality and was not falling out nearly as much. The only problem with iodine > was that it caused quick weight gain for me. After a few months of being > very depressed about that (more so because I'm single and trying to date, > and the weight gain has greatly affected my confidence), I stopped iodine > for a few weeks back in May. I started to notice that I was not feeling well > at all, so I resumed iodine again in mid-May. Right around that time, I > started to notice that my hair started falling out more than ever. So much! > falls o ut that I'm stunned that I don't have bald spots. > > > > > > > > > > I was just wondering if anyone has any advice. I'm already going > through a very rough time, but seeing my hair coming out constantly is > causing additional stress for me, and I'm worried about the long term > consequences of this. > > > > > > > > > > I should maybe mention that I don't have insurance, am unemployed > and don't have the ability to do lab testing right now. Also, I've been > taking what I believe to be about 30 mg of Lugol's (based on my dropper > calibration) for 5 days in a row with 2 days off each week. I use at least > 1.5 tsp of sea salt everyday, and 3000 mg vitamin C. I usually take all of > the companion supplements as well. Also, I just did a " whole body " cleanse > (kit by Enzymatic). > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > Sherry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 I also started using bentonite clay sporadically. I think the hair loss got worse before I started using that but could the detox from bentonite increase hair loss? Thanks, Sherry > > > > > > > > > > I have been having issues with losing hair but it is low estrogen & > > > > progesterone that I believe are causing my issues. That may be the case for > > > > you as well. > > > > > > > > > > Do you consume good omega 3 fatty acids? That is a problem for me at > > > > times too. > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately there are a lot of things that when imbalanced cause hair > > > > loss. I am still trying to fine tune my body to figure it out too. I used to > > > > have very thick hair and now it is not that way. It's frustrating - I > > > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > Steph > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hair Loss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > I've been dealing with hair loss and deteriorating quality for several > > > > years. I've undergone treatment for hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue. I > > > > still take 60-90 mg Armour, but discontinued hydrocortisone/HC for adreanal > > > > fatigue after I started iodine earlier this year because felt more relief > > > > with it than I ever did with HC. Given it's negative side effects and the > > > > good reaction I felt with iodine initially, I felt it was better to wean off > > > > of HC and did so a few months ago. > > > > > > > > > > When I first started iodine, I noticed that my hair, which had become > > > > frail and thin over the last year especially, seemed to improve in quality > > > > and was not falling out nearly as much. The only problem with iodine was > > > > that it caused quick weight gain for me. After a few months of being very > > > > depressed about that (more so because I'm single and trying to date, and the > > > > weight gain has greatly affected my confidence), I stopped iodine for a few > > > > weeks back in May. I started to notice that I was not feeling well at all, > > > > so I resumed iodine again in mid-May. Right around that time, I started to > > > > notice that my hair started falling out more than ever. So much falls out > > > > that I'm stunned that I don't have bald spots. > > > > > > > > > > I was just wondering if anyone has any advice. I'm already going through > > > > a very rough time, but seeing my hair coming out constantly is causing > > > > additional stress for me, and I'm worried about the long term consequences > > > > of this. > > > > > > > > > > I should maybe mention that I don't have insurance, am unemployed and > > > > don't have the ability to do lab testing right now. Also, I've been taking > > > > what I believe to be about 30 mg of Lugol's (based on my dropper > > > > calibration) for 5 days in a row with 2 days off each week. I use at least > > > > 1.5 tsp of sea salt everyday, and 3000 mg vitamin C. I usually take all of > > > > the companion supplements as well. Also, I just did a " whole body " cleanse > > > > (kit by Enzymatic). > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > Sherry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 I do see what you are saying. The problem is that a laboratory is much different than when it is applied to a human being with a biochemical structure, life experiences that have influenced detox pathways and overall toxicity levels. Cutler concerns me because he does not treat people. He has no lab testing that was performed on individuals following his protocol. His books are disjointed and unorganized. I found them extremely difficult to follow. I am interested in his counting rules for hair tests but even that is dependant upon one specific hair testing company and cannot be applied to any other than DDI. As I stated to you a few days ago. It concerns me that he has chelation (supplements) being taken round the clock where you cannot get a good nights sleep. According to Chinese medicine, the liver works hard to filter our blood between 1:00 and 3:00 am during our sleep. The deep levels of sleep are where the body heals. If you have to wake up to take supplements you never get to that deep sleep. I see that as problematic. As Loretta stated. Various protocols work for some and there are others for different people. There is not one path to the end. Finding which is best for you can be difficult. If it is working for you - great. Stick with it and regain your health. There is more than one way to skin a cat. RE: Re: Hair Loss Well, I only say that because Andy Cutler is a chemist and a scientist and has studied chelation using DMSA and ALA for 30 or 40 years in the lab. He says that any other way of taking it just picks up the mercury and moves it. He says that based on his research over all these years, there is no other way to successfully remove the mercury and he gives evidence and case studies to prove it. I am only repeating what he says. He used to have mercury poisoning himself. I know of others who have gotten well with IV chelation and cutler says that it does work, but it’s way too expensive for the average person and he is trying to make chelation affordable for everyone. Not trying to argue, these are just my opinions based on scientific evidence from a chemist how knows how mercury works and most doctors do not know how mercury works, even my own ND admitted that he never learned this stuff in school or after school. From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ladybugsandbeesSent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 12:04 PMiodine Subject: Re: Re: Hair Loss How do you define "best". There isn't a way to do this. Everyone's body is different. He says no DMPS challenge yet I did one 2 times. He says no ALA w/ amalgam fillings. Yet I took it for 6 mos before removing them. He sa! ys take DMSA every 3 hours - I took it all at once at night. This is how my doctor's practice and many many others are doing it with their patients. Their patients are having success - or I know my doctor wouldn't use the protocol he uses. My other DO does IV chelation. I think as with all protocols we need to be careful in stating it is the best way to do something. Even with high dose iodine it isn't the best way to do things in all cases. I think stating that many have had good results with his protocol is a good way to state it. Just my humble opinion but I shy away from promoting anything as the best. Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 How does one get the detox pathways working more efficently?Debbie I agree that a lot of folks have benefited from Cutler's work, but I know a few people personally who suffered severe negative consequences (including one who paid Cutler as a consultant, & worked with him directly. She gets pretty irritated when people suggest that maybe she didn't follow the protocol correctly!) This suggests to me quite strongly that one size does not fit all.I have seen this consideration raised on other alternative health lists. A person is taking OSR or ALA or NAC & adds iodine or OSR or MB12 or whatever, & suddenly finds himself dealing with detox issues that he wasn't having before. If you are gaining weight because your body can't clear out the toxins you are shaking loose, adding NAC, ALA, or anything else that promotes detox COULD increase the problem. (This is often complicated by the fact that a person doesn't realize that something he has added promotes detox. Some supplements do more than one thing, & if you are told to take it for something other than detox, you may not realize that it promotes detox, too.) If the weight gain/hair loss is a detox issue, you need to open up the detox pathways more than you need to add another detoxing agent. A lot of people figure that if they are feeling lousy, taking a detox agent will help them feel better. But if too-rapid detox is the problem, increasing detox is not going to help you feel better, it's going to make you feel worse. If that is the case, you need to reduce the input of detoxing agents & do some serious liver/colon cleansing, FIR sauna, detox baths or whatever until the body has thrown off the backed up toxins. It seems like you should feel better once you have cleaned your body out enough.And then, I would say you probably need to be very slow & careful about adding detox agents back in.Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 HI Anne, can you please define what the different abbreviations below mean? I would like to understand what is being talked about but have no idea what the letters stand for. Thanks, Michele NAC, OSR, ALA or MB12 > NAC is a glutathione > precursor & promotes detox. ALA apparently promotes detox. MB12 > supports methylation & promotes detox. If you are gaining weight > because your detox pathways are overwhelmed, supplementing with other > I have seen this consideration raised on other alternative health > lists. A person is taking OSR or ALA or NAC & adds iodine or OSR or MB12 or whatever, & suddenly finds himself dealing with detox issues > that he wasn't having before. If you are gaining weight because your > body can't clear out the toxins you are shaking loose, adding NAC, > ALA, or anything else that promotes detox COULD increase the problem. > Anne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Why are you trying to raise your ferritin levels? I thought too much iron was bad for you. Cancer likes it. You lose it easily while still having periods but it's dangerous after menopause. I just answered my own question.You are too young to be in menopause. I remember having to take iron supps when young and had such heavy flows. A thing to consider is that heavy flows are caued by hormone imbalances. I would have them checke. Regular doctors don't know about saliva tests to read hormone levels. Layna Berman of Your Own Health and Fitness is a health practitioner who knows which labs to use and how to read their results. It's important to know that each lab puts out different results so knowing their system is critical. Her web site is yourownhealthandfitness.org. Re: Re: Hair Loss > >I tried floradix but it wasn't " strong enough " to raise my ferritin levels. My children take it and it works for them - they are 8 & 10. > >Steph > > > Hair Loss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > I've been dealing with hair loss and deteriorating quality for several > > > > years. I've undergone treatment for hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue. I > > > > still take 60-90 mg Armour, but discontinued hydrocortisone/HC for adreanal > > > > fatigue after I started iodine earlier this year because felt more relief > > > > with it than I ever did with HC. Given it's negative side effects and the > > > > good reaction I felt with iodine initially, I felt it was better to wean off > > > > of HC and did so a few months ago. > > > > > > > > > > When I first started iodine, I noticed that my hair, which had become > > > > frail and thin over the last year especially, seemed to improve in quality > > > > and was not falling out nearly as much. The only problem with iodine was > > > > that it caused quick weight gain for me. After a few months of being very > > > > depressed about that (more so because I'm single and trying to date, and the > > > > weight gain has greatly affected my confidence), I stopped iodine for a few > > > > weeks back in May. I started to notice that I was not feeling well at all, > > > > so I resumed iodine again in mid-May. Right around that time, I started to > > > > notice that my hair started falling out more than ever. So much falls out > > > > that I'm stunned that I don't have bald spots. > > > > > > > > > > I was just wondering if anyone has any advice. I'm already going through > > > > a very rough time, but seeing my hair coming out constantly is causing > > > > additional stress for me, and I'm worried about the long term consequences > > > > of this. > > > > > > > > > > I should maybe mention that I don't have insurance, am unemployed and > > > > don't have the ability to do lab testing right now. Also, I've been taking > > > > what I believe to be about 30 mg of Lugol's (based on my dropper > > > > calibration) for 5 days in a row with 2 days off each week. I use at least > > > > 1.5 tsp of sea salt everyday, and 3000 mg vitamin C. I usually take all of > > > > the companion supplements as well. Also, I just did a " whole body " cleanse > > > > (kit by Enzymatic). > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > Sherry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010  Wrong on all accounts. I am in menopause - had my last cycle in 9/2008. It happened over 2 years ago due to the last RAI. It damaged my ovaries and put me into early meno - at age 40. I needed to raise my ferritin because adequate amounts are needed for thyroid hormones. When ferritin is too low you cannot take enough thyroid medication to make your body not feel hypo. I was very fatigued. Cancer may like iron but I still believe it is important to obtain a balance of all aspects of the body when trying to heal. My cancer markers came down with the increase in ferritin levels. Steph Hair Loss> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Hi everyone,> > > > >> > > > > I've been dealing with hair loss and deteriorating quality for several> > > > years. I've undergone treatment for hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue. I> > > > still take 60-90 mg Armour, but discontinued hydrocortisone/HC for adreanal> > > > fatigue after I started iodine earlier this year because felt more relief> > > > with it than I ever did with HC. Given it's negative side effects and the> > > > good reaction I felt with iodine initially, I felt it was better to wean off> > > > of HC and did so a few months ago.> > > > >> > > > > When I first started iodine, I noticed that my hair, which had become> > > > frail and thin over the last year especially, seemed to improve in quality> > > > and was not falling out nearly as much. The only problem with iodine was> > > > that it caused quick weight gain for me. After a few months of being very> > > > depressed about that (more so because I'm single and trying to date, and the> > > > weight gain has greatly affected my confidence), I stopped iodine for a few> > > > weeks back in May. I started to notice that I was not feeling well at all,> > > > so I resumed iodine again in mid-May. Right around that time, I started to> > > > notice that my hair started falling out more than ever. So much falls out> > > > that I'm stunned that I don't have bald spots.> > > > >> > > > > I was just wondering if anyone has any advice. I'm already going through> > > > a very rough time, but seeing my hair coming out constantly is causing> > > > additional stress for me, and I'm worried about the long term consequences> > > > of this.> > > > >> > > > > I should maybe mention that I don't have insurance, am unemployed and> > > > don't have the ability to do lab testing right now. Also, I've been taking> > > > what I believe to be about 30 mg of Lugol's (based on my dropper> > > > calibration) for 5 days in a row with 2 days off each week. I use at least> > > > 1.5 tsp of sea salt everyday, and 3000 mg vitamin C. I usually take all of> > > > the companion supplements as well. Also, I just did a "whole body" cleanse> > > > (kit by Enzymatic).> > > > >> > > > > Thank you,> > > > > Sherry> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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