Coconut oil

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The nearest health food store. Both of mine have it.

jim

Vilik Rapheles wrote:

> From: Vilik Rapheles <vilik@...>

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> Does anyone know where to find food grade coconut oil?

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> Best Regards, Ratliff

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Fresh or rancid? My health store had rancid oil.

> Re: Coconut oil

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> From: Jim Lambert <jlambert@...>

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> The nearest health food store. Both of mine have it.

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> jim

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> Vilik Rapheles wrote:

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> > From: Vilik Rapheles <vilik@...>

> >

> > Does anyone know where to find food grade coconut oil?

> >

> > Best Regards, Ratliff

> > SE Tenn.

> > bobratliff@...

> >

> > ~~~~~~

> > Organic too! Omega Nutrition <www.omegaflo.com> 1800 661 FLAX (3529)

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: Where are you?

Lizz

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i am away from my usual computer so haven't any info here but..

I get my coconut oil from a confections company in Rochester, Theater

Confections?

Found it under Candy/confections in the phone book.

HTH<

Lizz

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Anyone know where I can buy coconut oil locally? I was about to order from

columbus as usual but shipping is just killin' me! Help, I'm almost out! TIA

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Do you have a local health food store ? I live in Canton, and I can buy it at

our health food store here in town. The price really isn't all that bad.

Right in my back yard, there is a place where I can get all of my cold process

soap supplies. If you have ever heard of Sandy Maine, ( She's written many books

on cold process soap making and herbal housekeeping )she owns and operates a

place called Sunfeather. The website is: www.sunsoap.com . Since you live fairly

close, I'll bet the shipping would be a lot less.

That might be a place for you to try...

Re: coconut oil

Anyone know where I can buy coconut oil locally? I was about to order from

columbus as usual but shipping is just killin' me! Help, I'm almost out! TIA

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Try Kae at olivetreesoaps. She's in Naples and wonderful to do business

with--her link is at the bottom of each post to this list, too!

HTH,

: ) christine

Dutt wrote:

> Anyone know where I can buy coconut oil locally? I was about to order from

columbus as usual but shipping is just killin' me! Help, I'm almost out! TIA

>

> Member Kae's Site... Awesome oil Prices!

> http://www.olivetreesoaps.com/

-- Ehrhardt

Body & Soap

***coming soon***

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Thanks guys for the quick replies. I checked out both sunsoap.com and olive

tree soap. While I would love to support our locals, the price was more than

double that of columbus foods, even with shipping. In a pinch, I will probably

order from them tho. For now, I'm going to try to use some recipes w/ less

coconut. Lizz, I'm in Rome. I've been calling all over utica and syracuse w/

no luck. Thanks again.

: Where are you?

Lizz

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if you do come across something local w/ a semi-decent price, please let me

know! I've been looking too and the only thing that I can say is don't order

from Camden Grey - Ina midnight-I'm-tired-and-past-thinking mode, I did and I

paid almost the same in shipping as I did for the oil!

Re: coconut oil

Anyone know where I can buy coconut oil locally? I was about to order from

columbus as usual but shipping is just killin' me! Help, I'm almost out! TIA

[Guest guest]

Ooh thanks Lizz: I'll start calling the ones I found in the phone book

tomorrow. There are a couple in Utica and a bunch in Syracuse.

I get my coconut oil from a confections company in Rochester, Theater

Confections?

Found it under Candy/confections in the phone book.

HTH<

Lizz

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I'll let you know what I come up with .

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if you do come across something local w/ a semi-decent price, please let me

know!

[Guest guest]

I'll let you know what I come up with .

,

if you do come across something local w/ a semi-decent price, please let me

know!

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I just received my 50 lb pail of 76 degree coconut oil from Columbus Foods and

well, it doesn't look anything like the other pail from the same place. The

other was semi-hard and white. This stuff is yellow, soft, oily and grainy.

Any clue as to what the deal is?? Thanks. D.

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Hi, ! The difference might just be the temperature it was exposed to

when it was in transit. I have coconut oil in my kitchen, and the same

pail looks very different in winter and summer, based on the indoor air

temp ...

- Ela

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[Guest guest]

Thanks. That's pretty much been the general response. Even got an email from

Mike at columbus foods and he told me to put some in the fridge to see if it

changes to what it normally looks like.

Hi, ! The difference might just be the temperature it was exposed to

when it was in transit. I have coconut oil in my kitchen, and the same

pail looks very different in winter and summer, based on the indoor air

temp ...

- Ela

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I think an excess of coconut oil could be a problem. I've never heard of

problems (or experienced them) in soaps where it's kept at under 20% of

the ingredients, though ...

- Ela

(000)___(000) Ela Heyn

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Ditto in reference to Peggy's answer.

H.

----- Original Message -----

" ...coconut oil...- it sounds good, but when it is saponified (turned into

soap), it becomes astringent and can cause dermatitis. "

Colleen, too much coconut oil in soap can be a little drying., but I`ve

never heard that it can cause dermatitis! I use coconut oil in all my soaps,

I think most people do.

Peggy

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Thanks all! I just thought maybe I'd missed something

in my research. That was a direct quote from a well

known soapmaker. I knew it could be drying if too

much was used, but to cause dermatitis I had never

heard. Thanks for educating me!

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Colleen ston

Country Meadow Creations

http://www.countrymeadowcreations.com

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Jannette, Joe & everyone - As we already know, Dr D's info is for us to read

and then decide on how to use it - guidelines for us. We always decide on what

we will or won't do. I always like to say - listen to your body. If you feel

good eating or drinking whatever it is - then continue to do so. If the opposite

happens, then stop. Certainly 'virgin' anything should be superior to anything

processed. It will be interesting to note how you continue feeling over any

length of time as you use the coconut oil.

Another important aspect is that even with guidelines to follow - we are all

still different people.

Thanks for sharing....

blessings,

kathy s

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> The only difference in our diets has been the use of coconut oil for cooking

instead of olive oil. In conclusion, while I do not doubt the veracity of Dr. D.

Adamo's analysis, I do doubt if the oil analyzed was virgin coconut oil as

opposed to copra. I must reiterate, coconut oil is the one Avoid that we'll

continue to eat! Jannette

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Thanks for expressing these ideas so clearly, Kathy! I think it is so very

important for us to accept this responsibility each in our own way, and, for

people, including D'Adamo, to do their research, and make hypothesis, according

to how they see it!

Frances

Re: coconut oil

Jannette, Joe & everyone - As we already know, Dr D's info is for us to read

and then decide on how to use it Another important aspect is that even with

guidelines to follow - we are all still different people.

Thanks for sharing....

blessings,

kathy s

**want Dr D's (NAP) products? Email kksmith@...

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Wanda M and I both are distributors for Coconut oil if anyone

ever wants any )

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Which one do you carry? is it the one from tropical traditions?

Love,

> Wanda M and I both are distributors for Coconut oil if anyone

> ever wants any )

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It is Roulac's brand, and we sell it through Affinity

Laurie Delk

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Have you overcome CFS? If so, what else did you do? Thanks

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Some info here.

From

A Comprehensive Guide to Mastering Autism

By Willis S. Langford

" Medium Chain Triglyceride (MCT) oils are made of triglycerides with medium

chain fatty acids (MCFAs) having 8 and 10 carbons in their chains. MCFAs are

naturally found in coconut oil, palm kernel oil, and milk fat. It is comprised

of primarily caprylic (C8:0) and capric (C10:0) acids with a very small

percentage of caproic (C6:0) and lauric (C12:0) acids, which are esterified to a

glycerol backbone. This fat is metabolized differently than long-chain

triglycerides (LCT). Complete hydrolysis to MCFAs and small amounts of

monoglycerides occurs in the stomach with very little secretion of pancreatic

lipase or bile acids. After MCFAs are absorbed into the intestinal mucosal

cells, they are not resynthesized into triglycerides and incorporated into

chylomicrons, as are long-chain fatty acids. MCFAs bypass the lymphatic system,

and are carried by the portal vein directly to the liver, where they are

metabolized to produce carbon dioxide, ketones, and acetate.

MCT oil can be used to add calories to a formula or diet in the case of

malabsorption syndromes, due to a more rapid digestion and absorption. Since it

requires lower concentrations of bile or pancreatic lipase for digestion and

absorption, patients with bile acid and pancreatic lipase deficiencies benefit

from adding this fat source to the diet. MCTs comprise the lipid component in

many infant formulas because infants rely on lingual lipase for lipid digestion

when pancreatic function is not fully developed. It may be worth noting that

lauric acid delayed the onset of clonic convulsions in mice in a dose dependent

manner.

MCTs are contraindicated for people with diabetes, due to the risk of

hyperketonemia. They are generally not recommended for people who have

compromised hepatic function because a diseased liver does not have the ability

to clear the increased levels of MCFAs. Essential fatty acids and fat-soluble

vitamins must be added to MCT oil if it is a significant source of fat in the

diet.

MCT oil may cause diarrhea when it is consumed in large amounts (small amounts

throughout the day promote greater tolerance). The most important MCT, lauric

acid (12 carbons), is not found in the commercial MCT oils, from which lauric

acid has been extracted for special use by the soap, cosmetic, and

pharmaceutical industries. It is only found in the natural oils such as coconut

oil and palm kernel oils, butter (all at about 50%), and Roquefort cheese. The

desired MCTs (in coconut oil) are saturated. In other oils, they may not be; so,

one must be careful when buying MCT oil. Coconut oil also contains lauric acid

(at 50%), that is said to convert in the intestines to an antiviral substance,

monolaurin, but monolaurin is not formed in the body unless there is a source of

lauric acid in the diet. Dr. Darrell See, immunological researcher, found no

antiviral activity indicated for monolaurin against one representative-type

virus (sackie virus B4, strain E2), however, he did establish that it is not

toxic to the liver or Peripheral Blood Mononuclear Cells, and does not affect

Phase I liver enzymes. It seems, however, that it is effective against

envelope-virus infections like Klebsiella, herpes simplex, Cytomegalovirus,

measles, mumps, influenza A, hepatitis C, Hemophilus influenza, staphylococcus

epidermidis and aureus, Group B gram positive streptococcus, streptococcus

agalactiae, gram-positive organisms, and some gram-negative organisms, (vibrio

parahaemolyticus and helicobacter pylori), listeria monocytogenes, and HIV-1.

The Chlamydia Trachomatis, herpes virus, and the Cytomegalovirus are inhibited

by the antimicrobial lipid monolaurin as is sexually transmitted viruses such as

HSV-2 and bacteria such as Neisseria gonorrhea. A number of fungi (several

species of ringworm), yeast (candida albicans) and protozoa (giardia lamblia)

are inactivated or killed by monolaurin. Monolaurin appears not to be effective

against Polio, sackie, Rhinovirus, and Rotavirus. One mother's son tested

" zero " on lauric acid. When she gave Monolaurin, he began to speak in complex

sentences for the first time in his 18-year life! Dr. Atkins recommends

that for treating cold and the flu one should use 1,800-3,600 mg for four or

five days, then taper the dosage to 600-1,200 mg daily. " Lauricidin® is the only

monolaurin clinically tested. The dosage is somewhat critical, and this is where

I can help based on our initial discovery of monolaurin and our 30 years of

experience with this interesting material. Please write jonkab@..., or call

me at (815) 777-1887 for information and a supply of monolaurin (Lauricidin®)

from Med-Chem Labs " -Dr. Jon J. Kabara.

Dr. Kabara recommends these lower servings be used regularly as preventive.

These reports inform us about these vital oils: Kabara (1978) and others have

reported that certain fatty acids (e.g., Medium-Chain Saturates) and their

derivatives (e.g., Monoglycerides) can have adverse effects on various

microorganisms. Those inactivated include bacteria, yeast, fungi, Mycoplasma,

and enveloped viruses. The medium-chain saturated fatty acids and their

derivatives act by disrupting the lipid membranes of these organisms (Isaacs and

Thormar 1991) (Isaacs et al. 1992). In particular, enveloped viruses are

inactivated in both human and bovine milk by added fatty acids and

monoglycerides (Isaacs et al. 1991) as well as by those that are endogenous

(Isaacs et al. 1986, 1990, 1991, 1992; Thormar et al. 1987). Sadeghi, et al.,

has demonstrated that coconut oil in combination with fish oil decreases levels

of pro-inflammatory cytokines such as Tumor Necrosis Factor (TNF (a)) and

Interleukin-6 (IL-6) while stimulating production of anti-inflammatory cytokines

such as Interleukin-10 (IL-10). So, to control Tumor Necrosis Factor and other

cytokines and improve the sulfation pathway, to generate IgA and IgG, to protect

myelin, to relieve depression, to reduce anemia, and to balance the Immune

Function supplement Ambrotose AOT (vital sugars, vitamin C, and antioxidants),

magnesium, selenium, chromium (not picolinate), cod-liver oil (vitamins A and D

and fatty acids EPA/DHA), glycine, vitamin K, coconut oil, and possibly

colostrum, butyrate, and S. Boulardii (a yeast that eats yeast and controls gut

denizens).

All three monoesters of lauric acid are shown to be active antimicrobials.

Additionally, it is reported that the antimicrobial effects of the fatty acids

and monoglycerides are additive, and total concentration is critical for

inactivating viruses (Isaacs and Thormar 1990). In other words, use enough to do

the job. Preliminary results on a small trial with adults indicated that when

using 3-4 tablespoons of coconut oil in their daily diet to yield 25 grams of

lauric acid per day, greater than 50% of the patients had a reduced viral load

and one-third of the patients had a favorable increase in their CD4/CD8 ratios.

For Children, Dr. Waring speaks of 1/3 tablespoon twice a day. Dr. Kabara

recommends that you start on low dose and build the amount slowly until benefit

is seen. There may be die-off reactions.

The properties that determine the anti-infective action of lipids are related to

their structure (e.g., the monoglycerides are active, diglycerides and

triglycerides are inactive). Of the saturated fatty acids, lauric acid has

greater antiviral activity than either caprylic acid (C-10) or myristic acid

(C-14), but caprylic acid is more effective against candida, killing both the

yeast and fungal forms while not affecting the " good guys " of the gut.

The action attributed to monolaurin is that of solubilizing the lipids and

phospholipids in the envelope of the virus causing the disintegration of the

virus envelope. In effect, it is reported that the fatty acids and

monoglycerides produce their killing/inactivating effect by lysing the lipid

bilayer plasma membrane. However, there is evidence from recent studies that one

antimicrobial effect is related to its interference with signal transduction

(Projan et al. 1994). "

Nil

coconut oil

What is the part of coconut oil that may make it anti-fungal or other

anti-pathogenic? I have been putting 1 tbs MCT Oil in my oatmeal

_http://store./iherb/mctoil.html_

(http://store./iherb/mctoil.html) . I then

switched to pure coconut oil yesterday and got loose stools both mornings I

did this. I noticed the label on MCT Oil says is removes lauric acid. Is

lauric acid maybe what is causing this detox in coconut oil?