Coconut oil

[Guest guest]

I use Omega Nutrition. No chemicals, preservatives or additives. Unpasteurized

and contains the " mother " . Certified Organic.

A local farmer's son has acid issues and has been using it for over 10 years.

Thats not to say it will work for you: we are all different.

[Guest guest]

Low stomach acid can be improved with HCl gels, usually several capsules of

betaine HCl are used. When stomach acidiy is sufficient there is no GERD. GERD

is only a vomit response resulting from inadequate stomach acid.

Lookup: hypochlorhydria, or achlorhydria.

Coconut oil doesn't address the issue.

all good,

Duncan

[Guest guest]

On 2011-03-15 11:26 AM, wrote:

> I TAKE DIGESTIVE ENZYMES REGULARLY. believe i have low acid so adjust

> diet to suit. still having pain. could it be that i have had no fat for

> about two years and coconut oil might benefit me more

No fat? Maybe the solution is to EAT FAT?

Hopefully you're not on one of those silly vegetarian kicks...

[Guest guest]

Mine isn’t exactly GERD but I was having some horrific acid reflux when I was

pregnant. I found that trace minerals were very helpful. I didn’t use apple

cider vinegar until later but I’ve heard it is wonderful for that. I use it

for its anti-inflammatory properties. Just be careful that it is apple cider

vinegar (the real stuff). Jen

You may want to try taking some vinegar after a meal,

I have heard that some find that to be helpful with GERD...

any one here have expereince with using vinegar for this?

d

[Guest guest]

Good point ; one thing that got me real interested in alt-health back in

the early '90's was the " no-fat " diet the MD's had put my father-in-law on

because of his bypass/heart disease. I think it was the main cause of his

gallbladder surgery and subsequent pancreatic cancer, which finished him off.

They used the term 'backed up', a concept that I've been unable to verify.

all good,

Duncan

> > I TAKE DIGESTIVE ENZYMES REGULARLY. believe i have low acid so adjust

> > diet to suit. still having pain. could it be that i have had no fat for

> > about two years and coconut oil might benefit me more

>

> No fat? Maybe the solution is to EAT FAT?

>

> Hopefully you're not on one of those silly vegetarian kicks...

>

[Guest guest]

Duncan, a read one Dr. saying Himalayan salt can help rebuild stomach acid. Do

you know anything about that?

Tim

>

> Low stomach acid can be improved with HCl gels, usually several capsules of

betaine HCl are used. When stomach acidiy is sufficient there is no GERD. GERD

is only a vomit response resulting from inadequate stomach acid.

>

> Lookup: hypochlorhydria, or achlorhydria.

>

> Coconut oil doesn't address the issue.

>

> all good,

>

> Duncan

>

[Guest guest]

We've been using organic apple cider vinegar for years and always before

each meal 1.5 Tbsp. No liquids 1h before, during, and 1h after.

Exception 125ml organic red wine with dinner and minimum H2O

for supplements.

Alkaline diet as much as possible and reasonable portions.

Magnesium chloride in foot or full bath is helpful. Your body needs

magnesium for a zillion functions including various digestive and G.I.

biochemical processes. Chloride is necessary for stomach acid production.

All other forms of magnesium don't have this and also not easily absorbed.

Epson salts are o.k., I guess but they give you magnesium sulphate,

an inferior form of magnesium and more difficult to assimilate.

Your body to process one molecule of sugar needs 56 molecules of mg.

Most people have a chronic mg deficiency and a myriad of health issues

because of it. And very hard to test for as a blood test doesn't cut it.

Only 1% of the body mg is in the blood. See page 225 in the following google

book for more info:

Modern nutrition in health and disease By Maurice Shils, Moshe Shike

Hope this helps.

Nick

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:26 AM, <maria.holt71@...> wrote:

>

>

> i have been having really bad probs with GERD.

>

> I TAKE DIGESTIVE ENZYMES REGULARLY. believe i have low acid so adjust diet

> to suit. still having pain. could it be that i have had no fat for about two

> years and coconut oil might benefit me more

> maria

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, stomach acid requires zinc for its production, and taking zinc with an

acid to offset the low acidity in someone with hypochlorhydria often helps to

restore stomach acidity.

But Himalayan salt contains trace elements at very low levels, almost too low to

consider, except for the sodium chloride. I don't add any of the sea salts or

table salt to my food.

Doctors don't generally believe in the value of stomach acid or they would

properly treat hypochlorhydria and GERD instead of further suppressing stomach

acid production. I'd be interested in a detail or two that supports the doctor's

reasoning because he at least supports stomach acidity.

all good,

Duncan

>

> Duncan, a read one Dr. saying Himalayan salt can help rebuild stomach acid.

Do you know anything about that?

>

> Tim

>

[Guest guest]

Tim,

I'm not Duncan but that would go along the lines of trace minerals

working because Himalayan salt is low sodium but filled with minerals. Jen

[Guest guest]

i use enzymes in powder form. never heard of gels. are you saying they are

better.

i am not vegetarian, just trying to lose weight and thought coconut oil might be

less calories than virgin oil. but if acid has nothing to do with fat absorbtion

i am on wrong track

thanks

maria

________________________________

From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Tue, 15 March, 2011 18:00:18

Subject: Re: coconut oil

 

Low stomach acid can be improved with HCl gels, usually several capsules of

betaine HCl are used. When stomach acidiy is sufficient there is no GERD. GERD

is only a vomit response resulting from inadequate stomach acid.

Lookup: hypochlorhydria, or achlorhydria.

Coconut oil doesn't address the issue.

all good,

Duncan

[Guest guest]

mmmm interesting

, could this be causing my gerd

.. i was taking high doses of magnesium uintil about two months ago when i

thought i would have a rest from it.

maria

Re: coconut oil

We've been using organic apple cider vinegar for years and always before

each meal 1.5 Tbsp. No liquids 1h before, during, and 1h after.

Exception 125ml organic red wine with dinner and minimum H2O

for supplements.

Alkaline diet as much as possible and reasonable portions.

Magnesium chloride in foot or full bath is helpful. Your body needs

magnesium for a zillion functions including various digestive and G.I.

biochemical processes.  Chloride is necessary  for stomach acid production.

All other forms of magnesium don't have this and also not easily absorbed.

Epson salts are o.k., I guess but they give you magnesium sulphate,

an inferior form of magnesium and more difficult to assimilate.

Your body to process one molecule of sugar needs 56 molecules of mg.

Most people have a chronic mg deficiency and a myriad of health issues

because of it. And very hard to test for as a blood test doesn't cut it.

Only 1% of the body mg is in the blood. See page 225 in the following google

book for more info:

Modern nutrition in health and disease By Maurice Shils, Moshe Shike

Hope this helps.

Nick

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:26 AM, <maria.holt71@...> wrote:

>

>

> i have been having really bad probs with GERD.

>

> I TAKE DIGESTIVE ENZYMES REGULARLY. believe i have low acid so adjust diet

> to suit. still having pain. could it be that i have had no fat for about two

> years and coconut oil might benefit me more

> maria

>

> 

>

[Guest guest]

i have been worrying that maybe i am using to much celtic sea salt. about 4 tsp

a day in my vegatable juices

maria

________________________________

From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Tue, 15 March, 2011 23:26:28

Subject: Re: coconut oil

 

Well, stomach acid requires zinc for its production, and taking zinc with an

acid to offset the low acidity in someone with hypochlorhydria often helps to

restore stomach acidity.

But Himalayan salt contains trace elements at very low levels, almost too low to

consider, except for the sodium chloride. I don't add any of the sea salts or

table salt to my food.

Doctors don't generally believe in the value of stomach acid or they would

properly treat hypochlorhydria and GERD instead of further suppressing stomach

acid production. I'd be interested in a detail or two that supports the doctor's

reasoning because he at least supports stomach acidity.

all good,

Duncan

>

> Duncan, a read one Dr. saying Himalayan salt can help rebuild stomach acid. Do

>you know anything about that?

>

> Tim

>

[Guest guest]

On 2011-03-16 9:16 AM, Holt wrote:

> i use enzymes in powder form. never heard of gels. are you saying

> they are better.

Never heard of them either...

> i am not vegetarian, just trying to lose weight and

> thought coconut oil might be less calories than virgin oil.

virgin... olive oil? They are both good, but I'd go with more coconut oil...

> but if acid has nothing to do with fat absorbtion i am on wrong

> track

The enzyme responsible for fat metabolism is lipase (there may be others

but thats the main one)...

Something else you need to wrap your head around...

Consumption of high quality animal fats in NO WAY leads to either weight

gain or heart disease (in fact it is just the opposite)... this is a

myth perpetrated by the same people who claim that anti-biotics are safe

and fluoridation of the water supply is a good thing.

Good organic raw cream is a wonderful health food, and promotes weight

loss too, as do (organic raw) butter, meat fats (as long as the meat is

raw or cooked very very rare), etc...

[Guest guest]

, HCl is the same as stomach acid. The stomach is very acidic and when it

isn't, burping and a vomit response we know as reflux occurs; this is what the

body naturally does with a threat of unacidified food, which can carry fatally

pathogenic organisms. Fully 1/2 of adults over 60 have a degree of stomach acid

inadequacy called hypochlorhydria, or achlorhydria, which is no acid secretion

at all.

Stomach acid does not break down fats; that's done following acidification.

Digestive enzymes are released after the stomach; although these do not prevent

GERD, this is what breaks down fats and foods enzymatically and the part that

you improve with enzyme capsules.

HCl is taken as 3-10 capsules with a meal. If not enough acidity, you'll still

have GERD but with a more powerful acid. Once you hit the acidity the stomach

will stop regurgitating. This time, often more is better and it's better to not

be tentative when you are increasing the " dose " to get the effect.

This acidity is key, by the way, to controlling dysbiosis in the intestines.

Inadequate stomach acid is a " disease " that results in more disease.

If you have a problem absorbing fats, enzymes will help.

all good,

Duncan

.. Taking HCl gels with a meal allows the natural vomit response to too little

acid

>

> i use enzymes in powder form. never heard of gels. are you saying they are

> better.

> i am not vegetarian, just trying to lose weight and thought coconut oil might

be

> less calories than virgin oil. but if acid has nothing to do with fat

absorbtion

> i am on wrong track

> thanks

> maria

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Nick:

Your post was so good that I wanted to repeat it. Even the most health

conscious individuals often do not get the difference between Magnesium

Chloride and Magnesium Sulfate for these various important functions.

Some additional points: Epsom salts can help short term, but Magnesium

Chloride just keeps on giving. A painful sign of Magnesium deficiency

is muscle cramps, something that most of us accept as normal. Finally,

the worst example of a muscle cramp is a heart attack.

Cheers,

Jim

>We've been using organic apple cider vinegar for years and always before

each meal 1.5 Tbsp. No liquids 1h before, during, and 1h after.

Exception 125ml organic red wine with dinner and minimum H2O

for supplements.

Alkaline diet as much as possible and reasonable portions.

Magnesium chloride in foot or full bath is helpful. Your body needs

magnesium for a zillion functions including various digestive and G.I.

biochemical processes. Chloride is necessary for stomach acid production.

All other forms of magnesium don't have this and also not easily absorbed.

Epson salts are o.k., I guess but they give you magnesium sulphate,

an inferior form of magnesium and more difficult to assimilate.

Your body to process one molecule of sugar needs 56 molecules of mg.

Most people have a chronic mg deficiency and a myriad of health issues

because of it. And very hard to test for as a blood test doesn't cut it.

Only 1% of the body mg is in the blood. See page 225 in the following google

book for more info:

Modern nutrition in health and disease By Maurice Shils, Moshe Shike

Hope this helps.

Nick>

[Guest guest]

Hi Nick:

Your post was so good that I wanted to repeat it. Even the most health

conscious individuals often do not get the difference between Magnesium

Chloride and Magnesium Sulfate for these various important functions.

Some additional points: Epsom salts can help short term, but Magnesium

Chloride just keeps on giving. A painful sign of Magnesium deficiency

is muscle cramps, something that most of us accept as normal. Finally,

the worst example of a muscle cramp is a heart attack.

Cheers,

Jim

>We've been using organic apple cider vinegar for years and always before

each meal 1.5 Tbsp. No liquids 1h before, during, and 1h after.

Exception 125ml organic red wine with dinner and minimum H2O

for supplements.

Alkaline diet as much as possible and reasonable portions.

Magnesium chloride in foot or full bath is helpful. Your body needs

magnesium for a zillion functions including various digestive and G.I.

biochemical processes. Chloride is necessary for stomach acid production.

All other forms of magnesium don't have this and also not easily absorbed.

Epson salts are o.k., I guess but they give you magnesium sulphate,

an inferior form of magnesium and more difficult to assimilate.

Your body to process one molecule of sugar needs 56 molecules of mg.

Most people have a chronic mg deficiency and a myriad of health issues

because of it. And very hard to test for as a blood test doesn't cut it.

Only 1% of the body mg is in the blood. See page 225 in the following google

book for more info:

Modern nutrition in health and disease By Maurice Shils, Moshe Shike

Hope this helps.

Nick>

[Guest guest]

tempomerry, coconut oil probably shouldn't be added to the diet without

analysing current fat intake and type. Basically coconut oil and butter are your

main fats and you'd eliminate the pourable oils and some greasy foods from your

diet, including and probably especially restaurant food, which is typically way

high in deodorised canola or soy oil, which are mainly inflammatory,

semi-rancid, and too high in linoleic acid. Then add back in a small amount of

safflower or extra virgin olive oil or " MCT oil " or " fractionated coconut oil " ,

and some wild fish/salmon/cod-liver oil for the missing DHA.

For weight loss and cholesterol reduction you'd go on a reduced-carbohydrate

diet as well.

So, low-carb high-fat it is (LCHF). Plus supplements if you want that etc. you

mentioned, which I take to mean " and be healthier "

all good,

Duncan

>

> I would like to know how much you are suppose to have daily

> For chloestrol,weight loss etc

>

[Guest guest]

Coconut oil is not a drug, so don't think of it like taking a dose of something

to bring your numbers down. Instead get it into your diet in as many ways as you

can: by spoon, in cooking, in drinks and smoothies, rubbed into the skin. Just

get it into your system and listen to how your body feels as you use it. Gauge

the amount you should have by how your body takes it.

If you have trouble taking oil by spoon, here is an easy way to do it. Take a

swig of a drink first. While holding the drink in your mouth, tilt your head up

some and put the spoon of oil in and then swallow both together. Your mouth will

never know you just swallowed oil. This is how I finally learned to take oil.

Once you get adjusted to the " taste " of coconut oil by using it in cooking and

other ways, you will eventually probably not need to swig water. It may possibly

go in by spoon real easy without a drink.

________________________________

From: tempomerry <tempomerry@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Wed, June 1, 2011 7:21:46 PM

Subject: coconut oil

I would like to know how much you are suppose to have daily

For chloestrol,weight loss etc

[Guest guest]

I'm new to the group. I'm a 65yr retired teacher living in FL. Naturopath is an

ugly word here and it is hard to find a Dr. or DO. who will work with natural

healing before pushing pills. I avoid chemicals before trying a natural remedy.

I'm diabetic (not a weight problem) and I know I need my insulin. However, I try

to stay away from carbs and my blood gluc is controlable.

I heard about oil-pulling last winter. I was begining to feel a cold coming on

so I tried it with coconut oil. The taste is mild (I love coconut anyway) and I

keep the oil in the fridge so its solid. I took a teaspoon of it (before

breakfast) and held it in my mouth for 20min, then spat it out in the trash can.

I was amazed at how quickly I felt better and no cold or flu got to me. I don't

do it every day but if I start feeling 'gronkie' I grab the coconut oil. That's

my experience with coconut oil pulling.

I now use it for frying and flavor in cooking.

[Guest guest]

Amy, there is an awesome holistic dr. in Largo, Florida (Pinellas

County)..Dr. Young

Marsha

From: Coconut Oil

[mailto:Coconut Oil ] On Behalf Of Amy

Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:18 AM

Coconut Oil

Subject: Coconut oil

I'm new to the group. I'm a 65yr retired teacher living in FL. Naturopath is

an ugly word here and it is hard to find a Dr. or DO. who will work with

natural healing before pushing pills. I avoid chemicals before trying a

natural remedy. I'm diabetic (not a weight problem) and I know I need my

insulin. However, I try to stay away from carbs and my blood gluc is

controlable.

I heard about oil-pulling last winter. I was begining to feel a cold coming

on so I tried it with coconut oil. The taste is mild (I love coconut anyway)

and I keep the oil in the fridge so its solid. I took a teaspoon of it

(before breakfast) and held it in my mouth for 20min, then spat it out in

the trash can. I was amazed at how quickly I felt better and no cold or flu

got to me. I don't do it every day but if I start feeling 'gronkie' I grab

the coconut oil. That's my experience with coconut oil pulling.

I now use it for frying and flavor in cooking.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Marsha. That's too far for me - ville, FL (Hernando County) is

about 2hrs north. I don't think our car could take the drive. I have Freedom

health care along with my medicare. I have to see the Dr.'s on their plan. I

suppose I can see other Dr.'s but I'd have to pay for them myself.??? I'm still

not sure have medicare works.

Amy

>

> Amy, there is an awesome holistic dr. in Largo, Florida (Pinellas

> County)..Dr. Young

>

> Marsha

[Guest guest]

With Medicare you see whatever doc you want that accepts medicare. Now if you

went into an advantage plan, then that is a whole new story. Then the rules of

who you can see are up to the plan you are on. If your insurance is extra, the

kind that just picks up medicare co pays, then medicare rules and your back to

seeing who you want.

laura c.

________________________________

From: Amy <amyswhimzyfl@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Fri, August 12, 2011 10:39:17 AM

Subject: Re: Coconut oil

Thanks Marsha. That's too far for me - ville, FL (Hernando County) is

about 2hrs north. I don't think our car could take the drive. I have Freedom

health care along with my medicare. I have to see the Dr.'s on their plan. I

suppose I can see other Dr.'s but I'd have to pay for them myself.??? I'm still

not sure have medicare works.

Amy

>

> Amy, there is an awesome holistic dr. in Largo, Florida (Pinellas

> County)..Dr. Young

>

> Marsha

[Guest guest]

HI, I added coconut oil, to a green smoothie that I added ice to. need to have the blender on when adding the oil,I did not and and had coconut oil chunks, very interesting.Vickie On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 8:09 AM, drunkendebbieninjamaster <drunkendebbieninjamaster@...> wrote:

 

Does anyone here add coconut oil to their green smoothies. I know you're not supposed to mix fruit with fat, but I've found a couple of online videos that add coconut oil right at the end?

Not sure if it's a good idea or not.

Thanks

Debbie

-- VickieCarol Abel-SimpsonHighways International Ministries         The Joy of the Lord is Your (My) Strength

[Guest guest]

Coconut oil solidifies immediately upon cooling, so if you poured it into a cold smoothie without the blades running you would have, as you described, a chunk of coconut oil. However, mixing coconut oil with cocoa powder and peanut butter and making a runny paste of this stuff is DIVINE as a solid coating/toping over ice cream!

Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))><

On Sep 18, 2011, at 2:49 PM, vickiecarol simpson wrote:

HI, I added coconut oil, to a green smoothie that I added ice to. need to have the blender on when adding the oil,I did not and and had coconut oil chunks, very interesting.Vickie On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 8:09 AM, drunkendebbieninjamaster <drunkendebbieninjamaster@...> wrote:

Does anyone here add coconut oil to their green smoothies. I know you're not supposed to mix fruit with fat, but I've found a couple of online videos that add coconut oil right at the end?

Not sure if it's a good idea or not.

Thanks

Debbie

-- VickieCarol Abel-SimpsonHighways International Ministries The Joy of the Lord is Your (My) Strength