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I am taking gynovite from optimox multi vitamins for menapausal women.

Extra C (2000mg) and Extra Magnesium (1600 mg) My doctor wanted me

to take a lot of magnesium. I am taking the glycinate so I do not

have diarrhea.

Ellen

> >

> > I have been posting concerning all my issues with dianoses of

hashi's

> > and not getting stabalized since March. I also have severe chest

> > pains. I am taking attenlol (25mg) but still am having severe chest

> > pains. I take xanax to help. Does anyone know what else I can do.

> >

> > Ellen

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>From: " Lynn " <lyn122@...>

> > wow...i've heard this costochrontis diagnosis from a few hypo folks...I

> > also was diagnosed with that twice before I finally got diagnosed hypo.

> > bad pain. stupid docs.

> >

>

>-----> Yes I also had it for the past 3-4 years. Even went to the ER

>one night the pain scared me so bad. It's really gone away over the

>past few months since my thyroid has started working again.

>

>Didn't even think about the connection until I saw this post!

Once upon a time I had an obsession with thyroid symptoms. I wondered if it

was a coincidence if the words costo-chondri-tis looked a bit like the word

hypo-chondri-ac.

One definition of hypochondriac from dictionary.com -

" Anatomy Relating to or located in the hypochondrium. "

So, hypochondriac, is probably referring to that cartilage that hurts in

costochondrits.

A lot of hypos have this chest pain. (Broda mentioned it,

Shomon one time said " costochondritis is commonly associated with

hypothyroidism " , she called it " cutting edge knowledge at the time, but I

can't find it on her website any more.

Anyway, in those obsessed days, I wondered if the origin of the meaning of

the hypochondriac had something to do with the fact that those people with

pain in that region seemed to have so many different things with their

health, that eventually doctors just started calling people with a multitude

of symptoms " hypochondriacs " and saying " It's all in your head. "

Of course, in the olden days when the word was originated, maybe they knew

how to cure it. Supposedly, the Chinese did this before Christ -

http://www.canaryclub.org/content/view/306/67/

Traditional Chinese Medicine tells us that long ago the Chinese used to make

thyroid soup as a tonic for people who struggled with energy and malaise.

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i'm speechless. but somewhat impressed. and a tad disappointed i

never thought about this correlation myself. :-)

cindi

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> >>

>

> Once upon a time I had an obsession with thyroid symptoms. I

wondered if it

> was a coincidence if the words costo-chondri-tis looked a bit like

the word

> hypo-chondri-ac.

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Thank you...I will try to post everything. I have posted on stop the

thyroid madness since March or April with all of my tests since then.

I have done most. I willl try to post them here. Forgive me I have

posted my test results so many times I hardly can do it again.

Thank you to everyone. I am so tired...even doctors are kicking me

out of there offices. I can hardly find a doctor that will work with

me for any length of time. Most of the doctors have not ever seen

symtoms as bad as mine. I was told by one that he only had one

patient he could not help and she had lyme disease but I don't.

Do you mind reading some of my other post Diagnosed with Hashimoto's

Ellen

> >

> > I have been posting concerning all my issues with dianoses of hashi's

> > and not getting stabalized since March. I also have severe chest

> > pains. I am taking attenlol (25mg) but still am having severe chest

> > pains. I take xanax to help. Does anyone know what else I can do.

> >

> > Ellen

> >

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you need better thyroid/adrenal treatment (Armour/cortef/DHEA) and Iodoral helps a real lot.

Gracia

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Most of what I've read indicates a 2:1 ratio is best for

Calcium:Magnesium... By that theory you should be taking 3,200 mg of

calcium with that. Is that much is in your multivitamin?

-LanaOn 12/14/06, mem_mem_me <maryellenmu@...

> wrote:

I am taking gynovite from optimox multi vitamins for menapausal women.

Extra C (2000mg) and Extra Magnesium (1600 mg) My doctor wanted me

to take a lot of magnesium. I am taking the glycinate so I do not

have diarrhea.

Ellen

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no sex hormones? I would not be well without estrogen/progesterone/testosterone.

Gracia

I am taking gynovite from optimox multi vitamins for menapausal women.Extra C (2000mg) and Extra Magnesium (1600 mg) My doctor wanted meto take a lot of magnesium. I am taking the glycinate so I do nothave diarrhea. Ellen

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OK, you are sounding like I have felt this last week... barely able to

function and in so much pain I wanted to scream, but that only makes

it worse. So you climb into yourself and just wish for the life that

you used to have.

I really have very limited time from now until after Christmas, and I

have felt so really awful myself I haven't been on the BB's a whole

lot lately, but you need encouragement and some help. It's too bad

when we can't count on our docs to help, but the truth is, if we want

to be well, we must take our health into our own hands. " Patient heal

thyself " .

This is my suggestion, and it's easy. Become a member of the Graves

Support group on

graves_support/ , introduce

yourself and post those labs. If you've already posted them here or

on thyroid madness, they will be in the archives so you can just cut

and paste them into a new message at the Graves site instead of having

to push all those little keys again. The reason I point you in that

direction is because of the people there that are so GOOD at reading

various labs and making recommendations that make the docs scratch

their heads and say " why didn't I think of that? " . Most there know

more than their docs, and care because they've been there and truly

understand not only the mechanics of metabolic disorder, but what it

feels like to live inside a body that has a metabolic problem. With

graves we deal with hypER and hypO issues among so many others (each

system in our bodies depends on the others), so everyone there has

been on both sides of the coin. The author Elaine who is

considered a thyroid guru visits there often. When in doubt, put her

name in the subject line somewhere and she will take the time to read

your post and tell you what her opinion is based on the info you give

in that post. Just try to be as complete as you can and give her a

day or two to get to it- she's a busy lady, but she's there because

she truly cares.

If nothing else, you have added more to your list of friends and

people willing to help you dig into this to figure it all out one by

one, and get you healthy again. Remember patience plays such a huge

role as well. Treating metabolic issues is all about patience.....

that and more patience.

I so hope you have a better day today. Take a nap and attack this

when you feel the energy to do it is there. Don't let those docs get

you down. They are pre-occupied with their own " stuff " and forget

that we are out here suffering. They just have no clue what you are

going thru. Most don't really care. They want to deal with the easy

stuff, not the hard stuff. There are a few out there who really like

solving puzzles. The trick is finding one. In the meantime, there are

others out there who can help get you on track. We on these boards

will not forget you and know what it is like to suffer....

E (Ellen in Missouri)

> > >

> > > I have been posting concerning all my issues with dianoses of

hashi's

> > > and not getting stabalized since March. I also have severe chest

> > > pains. I am taking attenlol (25mg) but still am having severe chest

> > > pains. I take xanax to help. Does anyone know what else I can

do.

> > >

> > > Ellen

> > >

> >

>

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> I have been posting concerning all my issues with dianoses of

hashi's

> and not getting stabalized since March. I also have severe chest

> pains. I am taking attenlol (25mg) but still am having severe

chest

> pains. I take xanax to help. Does anyone know what else I can do.

>

> Ellen

Hi Ellen,

The first suggestion I have is to ask your doctor to switch your

medicinee from attenolol to Lopressor. Attenolol is not good for

hypothyroid people. I have an irregular heart beat and a rapid

pulse (thanks to synthroid for almost 22 years and way too high a

dose for some of that time). Lopressor helps me a lot.

What are your minerals looking like? Do you know? When I started

taking Magnesium, some of the arrythmias that I have got much

better. I haven't had hardly any chest pain in a month or more

(which is really a miracle for me.)

B.

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No, I do not think that much calcium is in by vitamin

-- In iodine , " Lana Gibbons " <lana.m.gibbons@...> wrote:

>

> Most of what I've read indicates a 2:1 ratio is best for

> Calcium:Magnesium... By that theory you should be taking 3,200 mg of

calcium

> with that. Is that much is in your multivitamin?

>

> -Lana

>

> On 12/14/06, mem_mem_me <maryellenmu@...> wrote:

> >

> > I am taking gynovite from optimox multi vitamins for menapausal

women.

> > Extra C (2000mg) and Extra Magnesium (1600 mg) My doctor wanted me

> > to take a lot of magnesium. I am taking the glycinate so I do not

> > have diarrhea.

> >

> > Ellen

> >

>

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Yep, I had this many nights. I had two or three normal EKGs and was told it was anxiety. Haven't and any since explant though...

It isn't fun and very scarey. I am sorry you are going through this. Breathing exercises, hot Epson salt baths and sleepy time tea helped - plus try to reduce all stress. I hope you get explanted soon.

Lynn

Chest pains

Hi, For the past couple of days I've experienced some chest pains only on the left side of my chest. I was so scared I went to the emergency room and my ekg came out fine. Has anyone else experienced this and does it go away with explant?

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I had episodes with that. Most times on my left side. Thought I

might be having a heart attack. I guessed it might be from

inflammation... don't really know.

I haven't had it since explant but I've only been explanted a month.

Take care.

--- In , " stephie0580 " <stephie0580@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi, For the past couple of days I've experienced some chest pains only

> on the left side of my chest. I was so scared I went to the emergency

> room and my ekg came out fine. Has anyone else experienced this and

> does it go away with explant?

>

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, honey, I had so much pain on my left side too. I have GERD, and it turned out to be heartburn, but please keep notes on these symptoms.

Many of my symptoms did get worse after explant, but I am doing better now.

Stay close...we all love you........Lea

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Re: Chest pains

I had episodes with that. Most times on my left side. Thought Imight be having a heart attack. I guessed it might be frominflammation... don't really know.I haven't had it since explant but I've only been explanted a month.Take care.--- In , "stephie0580" <stephie0580@...>wrote:>> Hi, For the past couple of days I've experienced some chest pains only > on the left side of my chest. I was so scared I went to the emergency > room and my ekg came out fine. Has anyone else experienced this and > does it go away with explant?>

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Darling Lynn, you are always so sweet and kind to all of us. Please take care and get plenty of rest. You have been through so much, and it might take some time before you feel well again.

Sending hugs and love........Lea

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Hi, For the past couple of days I've experienced some chest pains only on the left side of my chest. I was so scared I went to the emergency room and my ekg came out fine. Has anyone else experienced this and does it go away with explant?

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Hi Stephie- I am new to the forum so can't give you any advice but I

just wanted to let you know that I started experiencing strange chest

pains (only on my left side) around the time that this whole ordeal

began. I went to the ER because I had recently been diagnosed with

stage 2 hypertension and thought maybe I was having signs of a heart

attack. My electrocardiogram, chest x-rays, blood tests all came back

fine. Then, about a week or two later my left implant deflated. I had

it replaced but have not been able to get rid of the left side chest

pain and now it is all over left side pain.

I am hoping that after explantation my left side pain will finally go

away.

Good luck and keep us posted!

~Krista

--- In , " stephie0580 " <stephie0580@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi, For the past couple of days I've experienced some chest pains only

> on the left side of my chest. I was so scared I went to the emergency

> room and my ekg came out fine. Has anyone else experienced this and

> does it go away with explant?

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I'm hoping that mine will go away too after explant. I have my

consult scheduled for Friday so I can't wait for this to be over.

I've spoken to a few people who have told me that once they were

explanted the pains did go away.

> >

> > Hi, For the past couple of days I've experienced some chest pains

only

> > on the left side of my chest. I was so scared I went to the

emergency

> > room and my ekg came out fine. Has anyone else experienced this

and

> > does it go away with explant?

> >

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Lynn, honey, I would not be so sick if I had known that the implants were killing me. Women who have these devices never think that it could be the implants that are causing their problems. Many women call me and tell me that they are not sick; however, when I start asking questions, they tell me that they have heart problems and a lot of joint pain. They claim that these symptoms are from old age, and they are in their early 40s.

You can complain all you want, that is whay we have this group. Many of us have lost all of our family and friends over these devices.

Stay close...love you........Lea

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Hi, For the past couple of days I've experienced some chest pains only on the left side of my chest. I was so scared I went to the emergency room and my ekg came out fine. Has anyone else experienced this and does it go away with explant?

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I think it depends on whether they do a chest x ray pre op and what

they find. I didn't have a chest x ray before explant surgery.

Wasn't required. I have nasal and chest congestion every day... bad

allergies and post nasal drip. They knew that and could see me

coughing morning of surgery and during pre op. It didn't stop my surgery.

Now.. however... I am trying to get cleared for a surgical biopsy...

different doctor, different state and hospital. They required a chest

x ray before surgery which came back abnormal. I have since gone to a

pulmonary specialist and had lung tests to determine if my lung

functioning is within the normal range. I did the tests today. They

are within normal range so I think I'll get cleared for my now

rescheduled surgery..

Long story short. It probably depends on place, hospital doctor and

pre-op requirements.

If you tell them you have chest pains and congestion they may want to

do additional tests before surgery.

Keep us posted.

--- In , " stephie0580 " <stephie0580@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi, Did anyone have a hard time getting cleared for surgery with these

> chest pains? I've been also feeling congested and was told that if I'm

> congested then I have to wait for surgery.

>

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Stephie, I'm trying to catch up on messages after traveling. . . . I didn't notice a response to you . . . But yes, women have had chest pain - and a lot more. Can you make any association to your chest pain and environmental exposures? . . . I became chemically sensitive after getting implants . . . chest pain was part of the picture. Hugs and prayers, Rogene

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That is great !! I am happy you are clearing up and good to go for surgery!

Lynn

Re: Chest pains

I think it depends on whether they do a chest x ray pre op and whatthey find. I didn't have a chest x ray before explant surgery. Wasn't required. I have nasal and chest congestion every day... badallergies and post nasal drip. They knew that and could see mecoughing morning of surgery and during pre op. It didn't stop my surgery.Now.. however... I am trying to get cleared for a surgical biopsy...different doctor, different state and hospital. They required a chestx ray before surgery which came back abnormal. I have since gone to apulmonary specialist and had lung tests to determine if my lungfunctioning is within the normal range. I did the tests today. Theyare within normal range so I think I'll get cleared for my nowrescheduled surgery..Long story short. It probably depends on place, hospital doctor andpre-op requirements.If you tell them you have chest pains and congestion they

may want todo additional tests before surgery.Keep us posted.--- In , "stephie0580" <stephie0580@ ...>wrote:>> Hi, Did anyone have a hard time getting cleared for surgery with these > chest pains? I've been also feeling congested and was told that if I'm > congested then I have to wait for surgery.>

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Thanks Rogene, I have the chest pain on the left side only. I've been

taking hot epsom baths which seems to help but today I've had it all

day. I'm hoping once I'm explanted it'll go away. I've never had

chest pains before.

>

> Stephie,

>

> I'm trying to catch up on messages after traveling. . . .

>

> I didn't notice a response to you . . . But yes, women have had

chest pain - and a lot more.

>

> Can you make any association to your chest pain and environmental

exposures? . . . I became chemically sensitive after getting

implants . . . chest pain was part of the picture.

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

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Hello Stephie~

Yes, many do. How many beats per minute are you

having when you have the racing heart? If you dont

know, please find your pulse, or use your jugler

on your neck, and count the beats for a minute ~

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Hi, Along with the chest pains I've been experiencing a rapid

heartbeat. Has anyone else had that also and are the implants causing

that?

>

> Stephie,

>

> I'm trying to catch up on messages after traveling. . . .

>

> I didn't notice a response to you . . . But yes, women have had

chest pain - and a lot more.

>

> Can you make any association to your chest pain and environmental

exposures? . . . I became chemically sensitive after getting

implants . . . chest pain was part of the picture.

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

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Thanks for responding. I just timed it now and it was 73 beats in one

minute. Is it safe to go through surgery with this?

>

> Hello Stephie~

> Yes, many do. How many beats per minute are you

> having when you have the racing heart? If you dont

> know, please find your pulse, or use your jugler

> on your neck, and count the beats for a minute ~

> Hugs ~ Dede

>

>

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Steph,

I had both rapid heart beat and chest pain. I was told it was anxiety. I had normal EKGs. I still have rapid heart beat every now and again but my thyroid is off. Lynn

----- Origiid nal Message ----From: stephie0580 <stephie0580@...> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 10:09:18 AMSubject: Re: Chest pains

Hi, Along with the chest pains I've been experiencing a rapid heartbeat. Has anyone else had that also and are the implants causing that? >> Stephie,> > I'm trying to catch up on messages after traveling. . . .> > I didn't notice a response to you . . . But yes, women have had chest pain - and a lot more. > > Can you make any association to your chest pain and environmental exposures? . . . I became chemically sensitive after getting implants . . . chest pain was part of the picture.> > Hugs and prayers,> > Rogene>

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