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Just a thought but does the Prevacid interfere with the absorbtion of doxi?

I know it does (or acid blockers in general do) with minocin.

Why not ask your doctor. Maybe that'll help shift things.

Warm regards,

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HI Martha,

I also became very ill in the gastro area in my last big flare. I do have

h.pylori but this attack was different and I do feel the RA flare had

something to do with the severity of it as this was my worst case of a

flare ever.

I am taking prevacid which helps but I still have a yucky taste in my mouth

all the time. I was surprised when I read the fairlady's story at rheumatic

which she described the same taste distortion.

I will most likely have an endoscope done in the next month if my taste

doesn't straighten out.

Hope you will feel better soon.

At 12:12 PM 12/12/99 -0500, you wrote:

> I had discomfort for a few I was having achy (much like a

>toothache), pressured, hurting/bruising type feeling in the chest area and

>over my left breast and in the middle of my chest. The doctors think it

>has something to do with my esophagus or gastric rather than However, I

>really do not know. The only way to check this is to have an endoscopy

>performed. I don't want that right now. I have so many other things

>medically and still trying to work, that I can't take the test right now.

>I do know that a week or so ago, I was eating and all of a sudden when I

>took a bite Then after a little bit, it subsided after I drank some

>liquid, etc. Because I know that the reflux and similar gastric

>problems are a part of the RA. Thanks Martha MY

>FRIENDS

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>Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 17:31:52 -0500

>SEG14@...

>From: " M. Carroll " <LCARROLL@...>

>Subject: Re: rheumatic chest pains

>In-Reply-<0.8dedf999.25855163@...>

>Susa,

Good thought but I was told to take the Prevacid with the tetras in the

helidac pac for the h. pylori...just wait an hour or so between the two .

It must affect it but only if taken too closely together.

>Funny, after I griped to all you guys last night, , the knee was almost

perfect today! Actually got three hours of heavy duty shopping done. I

hated to do so much but who knows when the next good day will be!

>Thanks for the info!

> C

>

>

>

>

>

>

>At 02:28 PM 12/12/99 -0500, you wrote:

>>:

>>Just a thought but does the Prevacid interfere with the absorbtion of doxi?

>>I know it does (or acid blockers in general do) with minocin.

>>Why not ask your doctor. Maybe that'll help shift things.

>>Warm regards,

>>

>>

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Martha, Since you don't want to have an endoscopy done, why not ask your

doctor to prescribe

prilosec or prevacid and see if your symptoms go away. I was having bad

gastric reflux symptoms and the prilosec takes care of it for me. I did

not have an endoscopy done as my doctor knows that

gastric reflux is part of my disease. Hope this might help. Love, Judy

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From: And Martha <gmsmith@...>

rheumaticonelist

Subject: rheumatic chest pains

Date: Sunday, December 12, 1999 9:12 AM

I went to the E.R. on Friday evenin with chest pains. I had discomfort for

a few

days. I was having achy (much like a toothache), pressured,

hurting/bruising

type feeling in the chest area and over my left breast and in the middle of

my

chest..

The doctors think it has something to do with my esophagus or gastric

rather than

the heart. However, I really do not know..

The only way to check this is to have an endoscopy performed. I don't want

that

right now. I have so many other things medically and still trying to work,

that I

can't take the test right now..

I do know that a week or so ago, I was eating and all of a sudden when I

took a bite

(pretty big bite!!) I felt as though I was having a heart attack then.

Then after a little

bit, it subsided after I drank some liquid, etc..

Just wanted to know your comments. Because I know that the reflux and

similar gastric

problems are a part of the RA..

Thanks

Martha

BY THE WAY BLESSED HOLIDAYS FOR EACH OF YOU MY FRIENDS

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, When I started on prilosec, I asked the pharmacist about it

interfering with the doxt.

He said no....that was antacids. (I think most of the time a good

pharmacist knows more about drugs than the doctors do). Please.....correct

me if I am wrong on this point...both points.....the doctors and the

prilosec!!!! Dr. Chui? Judy

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> From: SEG14@...

> LCARROLL@...; gmsmith@...

> Cc: rheumaticonelist

> Subject: Re: rheumatic chest pains

> Date: Sunday, December 12, 1999 11:28 AM

>

> From: SEG14@...

>

> :

> Just a thought but does the Prevacid interfere with the absorbtion of

doxi?

> I know it does (or acid blockers in general do) with minocin..

> Why not ask your doctor. Maybe that'll help shift things..

> Warm regards,

>

>

> >

>

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In a message dated 03/14/2000 1:31:25 PM Central Standard Time,

noa-mit@... writes:

<< Preceding a particularly bad outbreak of arthritis I always have pains in

my chest or ribs. Did'nt think there were any joints there. Does anyone know

about this? Margot

>>

Oh yeah! There is a sternal joint, an immovable joint like the ones in your

skull. It's about 1/3 of the way down from the top of the sternum. I have the

exact same problem when i flare badly. It makes it so difficult for me to

breathe.

Reading postings from this group has made me realize that problems like this

are not unique. It doesn't take away the pain but at least I'm not afraid

anymore.

Willois

PA for 8 years and finally getting on with my life

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At 12:19 PM 3/14/00 +0200, you wrote:

> From: " " <> mo...could perhaps be costrochondritis....it is associated

with PA and is quite painful...makes it tough for me breathing and moving,

cartilage involvement>that's my speculation.....mo

.... Preceding a particularly bad outbreak of arthritis I always have pains

>in my chest or ribs. Did'nt think there were any joints there. Does anyone

>know about this? Margot

> Please visit our new web page at:

> http://www.wpunj.edu/icip/pa

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, Pearl,

I have had intermittent chest pain as long as I've had palpitations; about 12

years. They

are pretty infrequent, which is a good thing, and I have no idea what brings

them on. The

pains are usually not with palpitations, either, just by themselves. They really

upset me

sometimes.

My doctor have a unique solution: take pain killers.

Another success for modern medicine! Hurrah!

As to the cause... 'well, hey, kid, you've used up your 15 minute visit. Just

take the

damned painkillers, ok?'

And so it goes.

Jonah

PS: As I understand, the heart is not wired to transmit pain, as such, but it

comes from

surrounding tissues/mechanisms. Anyone else have any info regarding this?

PEARLY2@... wrote:

> but does anyone get chest pain? I think it may be related to my middle

> back, but sometimes it is a sharp pain, other times, a pain/ache. I had

> test done 2 years ago, when I was having a lot of heart palpitations,

> and it was fine. >>>

>

> I had the problem of chest pains and all was well. The heart doctor told

> me when I asked him how to tell if anything was wrong, He told me if it

> were my heart....the pains would have to last more then 2 consecutive

> minutes at a time. I hope this helps. Another words...fleeting pain

> usually is a skeletal problem. Also....he told me that a person that has

> asthma can have pain under the breast bone. A hernia ( forget what they

> call it ) can also do this and mimic a heart problem .I think he called

> it a hyatel hernia. I was also told that some can get chest pain with

> anxiety. I made many trips to the hospital and to the doctors with pain.

> This is only what my doctor has told me. I always get mine checked. Not

> a bad idea, but also don't panic over it, there are a lot of variables

> to look at.

>

> Pearl (NY)

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Liz

I know my thyroid or adrenals are not what they should be. But how do you

tell a doctor that! Doctors here are way behind the rest of the world in

thinking. Especially in regards to natural therapies. I know before my

monthly, my symptoms are worse, and around middle month. Sometimes I feel a

sense of hopelessness about trying to play doctor/psychologist, etc.

chest pains

> >

> > Hi everyone

> >

> > I know that we have talked about heart palpitations, but does anyone get

> > chest pain? I think it may be related to my middle back, but sometimes

it

> > is a sharp pain, other times, a pain/ache. I had test done 2 years ago,

> > when I was having a lot of heart palpitations, and it was fine. I feel

a

> > little nervous about it, and wonder if its cnadida related as well.

Does

> > anyone else get/had this? What do you think? I am only 39 years old by

> the

> > way. hardly on the way out, I hope.

> >

> >

> >

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I used to get pains like this but they went away when I started seeing

a good chiropractor.

If I were you I would find a " Straight Chiropractor " in your area.

they specialize in relieving vertebral subluxations and have taken a

solemn oath to treat patients regardless of their ability to pay.

Good luck!!

-adele

In high-tech terms, the central

nervous system is equivalent to the line connecting your computer to

the Internet. When the flow

of information is restricted, the

processor is underutilized, thus limiting the computer's performance.

When your spine is out of

alignment, the brain's ability to

communicate with your body is restricted. The body's ability to

protect and heal itself is impaired.

The quality of life declines. Remove

the restriction and the computer returns to its intended level of

performance. Align the spine

and the quality of life begins to

improve.

> Hi everyone

>

> I know that we have talked about heart palpitations, but does anyone

get

> chest pain? I think it may be related to my middle back, but

sometimes it

> is a sharp pain, other times, a pain/ache. I had test done 2 years

ago,

> when I was having a lot of heart palpitations, and it was fine. I

feel a

> little nervous about it, and wonder if its cnadida related as well.

Does

> anyone else get/had this? What do you think? I am only 39 years

old by the

> way. hardly on the way out, I hope.

>

>

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a " Straight Chiropractor " in your area. they specialize in relieving

vertebral subluxations and have taken a solemn oath to treat patients

regardless of their ability to pay.

Good luck!!

-adele>>>

Adelle,

What is a " straight " Chiropractor?

I never heard of this. Is there a website? I would love to find one

myself. I have one...but he is not that good. I never get any relief

from him. He just uses that little tool that is supose to move the

bones. He never adjusts my neck etc. I leave there in the same pain that

I came in. My area in particular is pretty bad for finding doctors :(

                                

Pearl (NY)

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Regarding the 'chest pain' issue.... over and over in every single good

'treatment' overview of candida albicans - once it becomes 'systemic' in the

body - is the mention of " chest pains " ... this is definitely a candida

symptom - though we don't often talk about this end of thing... most of you

probably know all this - but do notice where it talks about the

lungs/chest... " read on " ...:

" ...Candida Albicans is a negative YEAST INFECTION that begins in the

digestive system and little by little spreads to other parts of the body. It

is a strong, invasive parasite that attaches itself to the intestinal wall

and becomes a permanent resident of your internal organs. It is causing

numerous health problems and discomfort for over 30 million men and women

every day and it is estimated that nearly everyone has or will have a

moderate to serious Candida condition eventually in their lives.

A yeast cell produces over 75 known toxic substances that negatively poison

the human body. These toxins contaminate the tissues where it weakens the

immune system, the glands, the kidneys, bladder, lungs, liver and especially

the brain and nervous system. Candida yeast can become so massive and

invasive that is enters the FUNGAL form where it provides very long,

root-like structures that penetrate the mucous lining of the

gastrointestinal wall. This penetration breaks down the protective barrier

between the intestinal tract and bloodstream, allowing many foreign and

toxic substances to enter and pollute the body systemically. As a result,

proteins and other food wastes that are not completely digested or

eliminated can assault the immune system and cause tremendous allergic

reactions, fatigue and many other health problems. It also allows the

Candida itself and bacteria to enter the bloodstream, from which it may find

its way to other tissues, resulting in far-ranging effects such as soreness

of the joints, chest pain, sinus and skin problems, etc. An autopsy done on

a lady who had died of heart failure for no apparent reason, found that her

heart was encased with Candida yeast. Vaginal yeast infections are more

prevalent today than ever, and they will never completely go away until the

yeast has been cleared from the intestinal area. To make matters worse,

Candida can be sexually encouraged from one person to another.

Candida covers the intestinal wall which chemically and mechanically

interferes with digestion and assimilation of food nutrients. Many people,

especially senior citizens, cancer victims and those with AIDS are wasting

away for want of nutrition because they cannot absorb what they eat. Many

people digest less than 50% of their food because the Candida creates a

digestive conflict and robs them of their nutrition. Candida creates chaos

in the intestines and diseases of which the doctors have little or no answer

and can use only medicines to treat it. ALL IMMUNOLOGICAL WEAKNESSES AND

INFECTIOUS CONDITIONS are made worse by the presence of Candida throughout

the body.

The major waste product of yeast cell activity is acetaidehyde and the

by-product ethanol. Many people have a low iron content because this mineral

is hard to absorb when Candida is present, and therefore have little oxygen

in the tissues. Ethanol can cause excessive fatigue and reduces the strength

and stamina which takes away ambition. It destroys enzymes needed for cell

energy and causes the release of free radicals that encourages the aging

process.

Candida Albicans in an incredible destroyer of health and is the main

missing link in many of our modern day diseases and sub-health conditions. "

wendy

Re: chest pains

In a message dated 04/12/2001 3:33:26 AM Central Daylight Time,

nwgrant@... writes:

<< I know that we have talked about heart palpitations, but does anyone get

chest pain? I think it may be related to my middle back, but sometimes it

is a sharp pain, other times, a pain/ache. I had test done 2 years ago,

when I was having a lot of heart palpitations, and it was fine. I feel a

little nervous about it, and wonder if its cnadida related as well. Does

anyone else get/had this? What do you think? I am only 39 years old by the

way. hardly on the way out, I hope. >>

A friend of mine's brother just died from a massive heart condition that he

did not know he had, and he was only 41 - please take care of yourself. Not

to scare you but to say that anything is possible and that ALL of us should

take care of ourselves, I know a lot of us are quite sick with this candida.

------------/------------

Some people come into our lives and quickly go

Leaving bruises and scars on our hearts

Some stay awhile and leave gentle footprints

Of love and respect on our hearts and souls

And we are Never, Ever the same.

2001/04/13 21:09:33 CDT

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In a message dated 04/12/2001 3:33:26 AM Central Daylight Time,

nwgrant@... writes:

<< I know that we have talked about heart palpitations, but does anyone get

chest pain? I think it may be related to my middle back, but sometimes it

is a sharp pain, other times, a pain/ache. I had test done 2 years ago,

when I was having a lot of heart palpitations, and it was fine. I feel a

little nervous about it, and wonder if its cnadida related as well. Does

anyone else get/had this? What do you think? I am only 39 years old by the

way. hardly on the way out, I hope. >>

A friend of mine's brother just died from a massive heart condition that he

did not know he had, and he was only 41 - please take care of yourself. Not

to scare you but to say that anything is possible and that ALL of us should

take care of ourselves, I know a lot of us are quite sick with this candida.

------------/------------

Some people come into our lives and quickly go

Leaving bruises and scars on our hearts

Some stay awhile and leave gentle footprints

Of love and respect on our hearts and souls

And we are Never, Ever the same.

2001/04/13 21:09:33 CDT

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An autopsy done on a lady who had died of heart failure for no apparent

reason, found that her heart was encased with Candida yeast. >>>

Great article , but now I am scared to death ! I still get up in

the middle of the night with my heart racing, only now I am calmer about

it and instead of it lasting for hours, it stops in a few minutes. I do

the breathing and try to relax. This heart failure .in the article...wow

!

Pearl (NY)

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, I had the same problem. What is really important

is to make sure you have the heart tested. It's to easy

to push a serious problem off on yeast. Doctors do it every

day. hum. I even had a stress test along with a sonogram

of the heart valve.

Since you listed your age I have to tell you to have your

thyroid checked out also. I am 42 and I have been having

a great many symptoms that has been ignored over many years

and the only excuse I could come up with is yeast.

I have had chest pain as well as constipation, (I still do,

but there is an improvement) muscle pain. A feeling that

I am less of a human being on this planet. (four legged creature)

Typical symptoms for low thyroid is fatigue and brittle

nails and dry itchy skin. I didn't have the last two symptoms

which are really an earmark for this disorder.

I started seeing a naturopathic doctor also he is an M.D.

He discovered my progesterone was low and so he gave a close

look at my thyroid. It fell in the low normal range on the

test. He thought he would try me not just on more progesterone

but adding thyroid as well. I really feel more close to normal

than I have in the past 15 years. I have just spent a month on

these medicines and am looking forward to the coming months.

LIZ D

> [Original Message]

> From: Nick Grant <nwgrant@...>

> <candidiasis >

> Date: 4/12/01 1:32:52 AM

> Subject: chest pains

>

> Hi everyone

>

> I know that we have talked about heart palpitations, but does anyone get

> chest pain? I think it may be related to my middle back, but sometimes it

> is a sharp pain, other times, a pain/ache. I had test done 2 years ago,

> when I was having a lot of heart palpitations, and it was fine. I feel a

> little nervous about it, and wonder if its cnadida related as well. Does

> anyone else get/had this? What do you think? I am only 39 years old by

the

> way. hardly on the way out, I hope.

>

>

>

>

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Liz - the candida article is at this site:

http://www.bellnet.com/candida.htm

wendy

Re: chest pains

>

>

> In a message dated 04/12/2001 3:33:26 AM Central Daylight Time,

> nwgrant@... writes:

>

> << I know that we have talked about heart palpitations, but does anyone

get

> chest pain? I think it may be related to my middle back, but sometimes it

> is a sharp pain, other times, a pain/ache. I had test done 2 years ago,

> when I was having a lot of heart palpitations, and it was fine. I feel a

> little nervous about it, and wonder if its cnadida related as well. Does

> anyone else get/had this? What do you think? I am only 39 years old by

the

> way. hardly on the way out, I hope. >>

>

> A friend of mine's brother just died from a massive heart condition that

he

> did not know he had, and he was only 41 - please take care of yourself.

Not

> to scare you but to say that anything is possible and that ALL of us

should

> take care of ourselves, I know a lot of us are quite sick with this

candida.

>

>

>

> ------------/------------

> Some people come into our lives and quickly go

> Leaving bruises and scars on our hearts

> Some stay awhile and leave gentle footprints

> Of love and respect on our hearts and souls

> And we are Never, Ever the same.

>

> 2001/04/13 21:09:33 CDT

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well... in a sense it is 'good' to **know** this ... to realize that

'systemic' candida is altogether a different thing than a " vaginal

infection " .... or " jock itch " ....

This 'toxic' candida releases TOXINS throughout the body - it can also

affect the brain.

For me,,,, it 'settles me down' to realize - that I 'may' have a long road

ahead - but that I'm NOT CRAZY - and the things happening in my body are

REAL. I am continuing to 'fight the fight' even if it takes a number of

years to rid the organs and bloodstream of this.

wendy

Re: chest pains

An autopsy done on a lady who had died of heart failure for no apparent

reason, found that her heart was encased with Candida yeast. >>>

Great article , but now I am scared to death ! I still get up in

the middle of the night with my heart racing, only now I am calmer about

it and instead of it lasting for hours, it stops in a few minutes. I do

the breathing and try to relax. This heart failure .in the article...wow

!

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In a message dated 04/13/2001 10:41:05 PM Central Daylight Time,

PEARLY2@... writes:

<< Great article , but now I am scared to death ! I still get up in

the middle of the night with my heart racing, only now I am calmer about

it and instead of it lasting for hours, it stops in a few minutes. I do

the breathing and try to relax. This heart failure .in the article...wow

! >>

Pearl, you shouldn't worry about it *TOO* much, there are symptoms of heart

failure and even tho they are different for a women, you would have a feeling

if something was wrong. I'll see if I can find a site that describes what

happens in most cases of heart problems.

God bless you,

------------/------------

Some people come into our lives and quickly go

Leaving bruises and scars on our hearts

Some stay awhile and leave gentle footprints

Of love and respect on our hearts and souls

And we are Never, Ever the same.

2001/04/14 22:31:01 CDT

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, Here is a portion of the post from Excellent Things

from a member who tried a GNC product for thyroid. It is

not my post so I cannot answer any questions about it. But

this persons experience is a very positive one. LIZ D

**********************

Hi. I was just wondering if your low thyroid folks have tried / heard

of using a homeopathic preparation to increase your thyroid output. I

found one at our local GNC store that uses Thyroid 8X and distilled H2O

with a little alcohol. It's taken sublingually four times daily. It's

also inexpensive. (About $8 a bottle if I recall.) Let me explain....

Some of you folks will probably recall that I was getting good results

with weight loss using high dosages of aminos. Well, I hit a plateau; I

stopped losing. I figured that my body was likely attenuating either

the aminos or the additional GH. So, I decided to stop for the weekends.

(My plan now is: 5 days on, 2 days off.) Well, I was nebbing around the

local GNC store. Let me explain....

I've always had a severe weight problem. When I graduated from HS, I

weighed 301 lbs! When I was in my early 20's, I crash dieted and went

to 158 in just under 6 months. (Nearly killed myself.) I found that in

order to maintain a weight of 190lbs, I had to run 7 miles daily and

keep to under 2500 calories a day. I maintained 190 lbs for about 10

years, I was depressed, weak and constantly hungry. Around 10 years

later, I started gaining again. I simply couldn't maintain this

forever. It was just one strain to many. I had always suspected that I

had some sort of hormonal problem...likely thyroid. So... I saw this

" homeopathic thyroid support " at the health food store. I tried it.

Let me explain what happened.... Within about sixty

seconds of my first time taking it, I started to feel this uncomfortable

tension or pressure in my throat about where my thyroid should be. I

found that with subsequent dosages, I still felt pressure, but it felt

less and less uncomfortable each time. I feel more alert than I have in

years. And I feel that more weight is coming off.

************** END

> [Original Message]

> From: Nick Grant <nwgrant@...>

> <candidiasis >

> Date: 4/13/01 12:42:49 AM

> Subject: Re: chest pains

>

> Liz

>

> I know my thyroid or adrenals are not what they should be. But how do you

> tell a doctor that! Doctors here are way behind the rest of the world in

> thinking. Especially in regards to natural therapies. I know before my

> monthly, my symptoms are worse, and around middle month. Sometimes I

feel a

> sense of hopelessness about trying to play doctor/psychologist, etc.

>

>

> chest pains

> > >

> > > Hi everyone

> > >

> > > I know that we have talked about heart palpitations, but does anyone

get

> > > chest pain? I think it may be related to my middle back, but

sometimes

> it

> > > is a sharp pain, other times, a pain/ache. I had test done 2 years

ago,

> > > when I was having a lot of heart palpitations, and it was fine. I

feel

> a

> > > little nervous about it, and wonder if its cnadida related as well.

> Does

> > > anyone else get/had this? What do you think? I am only 39 years old

by

> > the

> > > way. hardly on the way out, I hope.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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, where did you find this information. Is it in a book?

A title please. I would like to shove it in my doctors face.

Hum. Yes I just said nice things about him helping me, but

I think he needs a kick in this regards. Thank you.

LIZ D

> [Original Message]

> From: D & WMcPhail <dwmcphail@...>

> <candidiasis >

> Date: 4/13/01 8:25:40 PM

> Subject: Re: chest pains

>

> Regarding the 'chest pain' issue.... over and over in every single good

> 'treatment' overview of candida albicans - once it becomes 'systemic' in

the

> body - is the mention of " chest pains " ... this is definitely a candida

> symptom - though we don't often talk about this end of thing... most of

you

> probably know all this - but do notice where it talks about the

> lungs/chest... " read on " ...:

>

> " ...Candida Albicans is a negative YEAST INFECTION that begins in the

> digestive system and little by little spreads to other parts of the body.

It

> is a strong, invasive parasite that attaches itself to the intestinal wall

> and becomes a permanent resident of your internal organs. It is causing

> numerous health problems and discomfort for over 30 million men and women

> every day and it is estimated that nearly everyone has or will have a

> moderate to serious Candida condition eventually in their lives.

>

> A yeast cell produces over 75 known toxic substances that negatively

poison

> the human body. These toxins contaminate the tissues where it weakens the

> immune system, the glands, the kidneys, bladder, lungs, liver and

especially

> the brain and nervous system. Candida yeast can become so massive and

> invasive that is enters the FUNGAL form where it provides very long,

> root-like structures that penetrate the mucous lining of the

> gastrointestinal wall. This penetration breaks down the protective barrier

> between the intestinal tract and bloodstream, allowing many foreign and

> toxic substances to enter and pollute the body systemically. As a result,

> proteins and other food wastes that are not completely digested or

> eliminated can assault the immune system and cause tremendous allergic

> reactions, fatigue and many other health problems. It also allows the

> Candida itself and bacteria to enter the bloodstream, from which it may

find

> its way to other tissues, resulting in far-ranging effects such as

soreness

> of the joints, chest pain, sinus and skin problems, etc. An autopsy done

on

> a lady who had died of heart failure for no apparent reason, found that

her

> heart was encased with Candida yeast. Vaginal yeast infections are more

> prevalent today than ever, and they will never completely go away until

the

> yeast has been cleared from the intestinal area. To make matters worse,

> Candida can be sexually encouraged from one person to another.

>

> Candida covers the intestinal wall which chemically and mechanically

> interferes with digestion and assimilation of food nutrients. Many people,

> especially senior citizens, cancer victims and those with AIDS are wasting

> away for want of nutrition because they cannot absorb what they eat. Many

> people digest less than 50% of their food because the Candida creates a

> digestive conflict and robs them of their nutrition. Candida creates chaos

> in the intestines and diseases of which the doctors have little or no

answer

> and can use only medicines to treat it. ALL IMMUNOLOGICAL WEAKNESSES AND

> INFECTIOUS CONDITIONS are made worse by the presence of Candida throughout

> the body.

>

> The major waste product of yeast cell activity is acetaidehyde and the

> by-product ethanol. Many people have a low iron content because this

mineral

> is hard to absorb when Candida is present, and therefore have little

oxygen

> in the tissues. Ethanol can cause excessive fatigue and reduces the

strength

> and stamina which takes away ambition. It destroys enzymes needed for cell

> energy and causes the release of free radicals that encourages the aging

> process.

>

> Candida Albicans in an incredible destroyer of health and is the main

> missing link in many of our modern day diseases and sub-health

conditions. "

>

> wendy

>

>

> Re: chest pains

>

>

> In a message dated 04/12/2001 3:33:26 AM Central Daylight Time,

> nwgrant@... writes:

>

> << I know that we have talked about heart palpitations, but does anyone

get

> chest pain? I think it may be related to my middle back, but sometimes it

> is a sharp pain, other times, a pain/ache. I had test done 2 years ago,

> when I was having a lot of heart palpitations, and it was fine. I feel a

> little nervous about it, and wonder if its cnadida related as well. Does

> anyone else get/had this? What do you think? I am only 39 years old by

the

> way. hardly on the way out, I hope. >>

>

> A friend of mine's brother just died from a massive heart condition that

he

> did not know he had, and he was only 41 - please take care of yourself.

Not

> to scare you but to say that anything is possible and that ALL of us

should

> take care of ourselves, I know a lot of us are quite sick with this

candida.

>

>

>

> ------------/------------

> Some people come into our lives and quickly go

> Leaving bruises and scars on our hearts

> Some stay awhile and leave gentle footprints

> Of love and respect on our hearts and souls

> And we are Never, Ever the same.

>

> 2001/04/13 21:09:33 CDT

>

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When I'm having serious die-off, I have had serious chest pain and

breathing " wierdness " (couldn't feel myself breathing), and a sort of

disconnected feeling from my body. The chest pain was so bad that I

went to the E.R. twice before I figured out I had candida and leaky

gut.

I had die-off without knowing I had candida, because I started taking

a garlic supplement, and wham, serious die-off. Scared the hell out

of me. I thought I was having heart attacks or a pulmonary edema. But

no. Had heart stress test, and pulmonary test, and no problems there.

Die-off is bad enough when you know what it is. Having it without

knowing what it is a frightful proposition. I think all garlic (and

over-the-counter antifungal substances) should have a warning on them.

KB

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When I read what you described I though ACID REFLUX. There could be many

reasons for it and would definitely mention it to your Doctor or head to the

ER if it gets worse. My ACID REFLUX pops up in all kinds of forms from the

burning throat to chest pains to a horrible burning between my shoulder

blades. The adrenaline rush was probably sheer anxiety over those pains.

When I get new unexpected pains that I can't explain I get that way to the

point I almost hyperventilate. I suffer from Panic attacks so I can usually

calm myself down from those situations...but this is just my body...your body

is quite different I am sure :)

Shandi

In a message dated 8/14/2002 8:21:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

kb9vrq@... writes:

> Hi Everyone,

>

> On my nightly commute from work I started having acute pain on the

> right side of my chest. It would happen and literally take my breath

> away. After a couple of minutes it would stop and a few minutes later

> start up again. This happened on and off for about 1/2 an hour.

>

> When I finally got home, I put my wife on notice that I may need to

> go to the hospital if it continued and got worse. It finally stopped,

> but then it felt like I had the lingering effects of an adrenaline

> rush. I was very shaky (sp?) for about 30 minutes.

>

> On a positive note, I was still hungry so I was thinking it can't be

> too bad.

>

> I see my rheumy first thing tomorrow morning and will definitely tell

> her.

>

> Has anything like this ever happened to anyone? Please let me know.

>

> My best to everyone. I hope you are having as pain free an evening as

> possible.

>

> Al in IL

>

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That sounds about right. My husband, as well, earlier this year went through

acid reflux in the same area. I am still trying to convince him it isn't his

heart. They did a few tests on his heart and found no troubles and the

NEXIUM helps. He is 31 with no heart history in his family but his uncle had

died a week before of heart failure. What my husband fails to realize was

his uncle was a drug addict and didn't take careof himself!

I am sure you will be fine but you will be in my thoughts never the less :)

Good luck and let us know what the doc says.

Shandi

In a message dated 8/14/2002 9:39:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

kb9vrq@... writes:

>

> I don't think we ever cyber-met. Hi. I never thought of Acid Reflux.

> The only way I could desribe the sensation was like taking a needle

> about the size of a nickel in circumference and jabbing it into the

> right side of my chest around the lower right side of my heart.

>

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