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Shirley,

My God, this doesn't sound right to me either. I agree with you-- he

lied by ommission. Something this important you should know

beforehand. Maybe he wanted to be sure before he said anything or

believes it's no big deal. That's just wrong. My son's doctor told

us he suspected it was c-toma months before surgery. He waited until

he got the ear cleaned up enough to see the c-toma but told us in the

beginning what he suspected and what it meant. By the time he could

confirm it we knew what it was and what had to be done and what the

long term consequences were.

Whether or not this guy is the right doctor depends on a lot of

things. Is he good at what he does? Is your child comfortable with

him? Maybe you can check him out through the state or the ama or

some of those websites that report on doctors while you're waiting

for the next visit. It's really hard when it's your child. Things

you accept for yourself are not good enough when it comes to your

child. It's especially hard when your child is young. My son ended

up with a canal wall down procedure which means life long follow up

care so when the Navy brought in a new ENT who we thought was not

qualified to treat my son (he had a bad attitude) we had our son sent

back to his original ENT who had since gotten out of the Navy. My

son is comfortable with him and we have alot of confidence in him.

Their relationship is going to be an important part of my son's life

so we let him make the decision but we agreed with him completely. I

hope you can find a doctor that you and your child are both

comfortable with and have confidence in as well.

Let us all know how it goes. In the meantime, you're in our prayers.

> >

> >

> > Hi, I am new to this cholesteatoma thing. Haven't gotten much

info

> > yet. My eight year old just had surgery the 12th to repair a

hole

> in

> > the eardrum, and the surgeon came out and told us he found

the " C "

> > and not to worry he would follow through, but from things I have

> > found on the Net, and heard from this group it is way more

serious

> > than he stated. Any ideas for me. Appreciate any and all help I

> can

> > get. He took out two hearing bones and went through the mastoid

to

> > clear it all out.

> > Shirley Moma

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I would just like to ask, what is the average time most people have to wait

between diagnosis and surgery? I ask this because my daughter was

diagnosed in July, and her appt for surgery has only just arrived and is

scheduled for 8th Dec. This seems to be quite a bit longer than most of you

guys are waiting Thanks Nicki

>From: Shirley Moma <shirleymoma@...>

>Reply-cholesteatoma

>cholesteatoma

>Subject: Re: Re: Newbie

>Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 07:09:26 -0800 (PST)

>

>:

>Thanks for your encouragement. The most aggravating thing is that she had

>had some trouble after swimming lessons, took her to her Ped. and he saw

>something and sent her to an ENT who immediatly said she needed the ear

>drum repaired, but it would never work if she had her tonsils and adnoids,

>and he did that surgery and sent her to an Otologist to do the ear repair.

>He said he was going to do a simple procedure to repair the ear drum, and

>we went to the hospital, signed her in and I noticed the C-toma word on the

>admission papers but what did I know thinking it was what he said he was

>going to do. After the surgery he came and told us he found the C-toma,

>and all the necessary things he did to remove it all, which is fine, but

>afterward thinking it over, I feel he KNEW all along that was what was

>going to be done, and lied to me by ommission! He never told us how it

>would become an ongoing thing and how dangerous it could be. He will see

>her in three weeks, then in six months he

> will go back in and do the reconstruction, and maybe she will be back to

>hearing , maybe not. I do not feel I am getting the correct info from him,

>and cannot wait for that first follow up appt. I am afraid he might not be

>the Dr. she will need to get her through this. I was so glad to find this

>group, now I do know some things about it and will have a long list of

>questions for him, and think if he is hesitant to answer or makes light of

>it, I will just find another. We are in Phoenix, Az by the way and if

>anyone in this area knows any Physicians who are good please let me know.

>Shirley

>

>

>cathy <cathym.bscpa@...> wrote:

>

>Shirley,

>It sounds like the doc took care of the c-toma if he took out the

>hearing bones and cleaned out the mastoid. That's well beyond

>repairing the eardrum. I would ask the surgeon to tell you exactly

>if he rmoved the c-toma and what follow up he has planned. If he did

>a canal wall up procedure then he'll need to do a second-look surgery

>sometime in the next year. I'm sure he plans on giving you more info

>at your child's follow up visit but you should be prepared with a

>list of questions to ask him. In the meantime, I'm sure you can tell

>by what you've read that water is the enemy and you need to keep the

>ear dry no matter what has already been done and what else needs to

>be done.

>Good luck,

>

>

> >

> >

> > Hi, I am new to this cholesteatoma thing. Haven't gotten much info

> > yet. My eight year old just had surgery the 12th to repair a hole

>in

> > the eardrum, and the surgeon came out and told us he found the " C "

> > and not to worry he would follow through, but from things I have

> > found on the Net, and heard from this group it is way more serious

> > than he stated. Any ideas for me. Appreciate any and all help I

>can

> > get. He took out two hearing bones and went through the mastoid to

> > clear it all out.

> > Shirley Moma

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Seems like it should be soon, I have read that it can grow very fast, but then I have read that it usually doesn't. My child was diagnosed on the day of surgery. But the problem began in June which made it 5 months before surgery in Nov. I am waiting for some facts from the dr. in Dec. I don't even know if she has packing in the ear, or anything, and I am very anxious to find out what is really going on.

ShirleyNicola Wiltshire <goodsell69@...> wrote:

I would just like to ask, what is the average time most people have to wait between diagnosis and surgery? I ask this because my daughter was diagnosed in July, and her appt for surgery has only just arrived and is scheduled for 8th Dec. This seems to be quite a bit longer than most of you guys are waiting Thanks Nicki>From: Shirley Moma >Reply-cholesteatoma >cholesteatoma >Subject: Re: Re: Newbie>Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 07:09:26 -0800 (PST)>>:>Thanks for your encouragement. The most aggravating thing is that she had >had some trouble after swimming lessons, took her to her Ped. and he saw >something and sent her to an ENT who immediatly said she needed the ear >drum repaired, but it would never work

if she had her tonsils and adnoids, >and he did that surgery and sent her to an Otologist to do the ear repair. >He said he was going to do a simple procedure to repair the ear drum, and >we went to the hospital, signed her in and I noticed the C-toma word on the >admission papers but what did I know thinking it was what he said he was >going to do. After the surgery he came and told us he found the C-toma, >and all the necessary things he did to remove it all, which is fine, but >afterward thinking it over, I feel he KNEW all along that was what was >going to be done, and lied to me by ommission! He never told us how it >would become an ongoing thing and how dangerous it could be. He will see >her in three weeks, then in six months he> will go back in and do the reconstruction, and maybe she will be back to >hearing , maybe not. I do not feel I am getting the correct info from him, >and

cannot wait for that first follow up appt. I am afraid he might not be >the Dr. she will need to get her through this. I was so glad to find this >group, now I do know some things about it and will have a long list of >questions for him, and think if he is hesitant to answer or makes light of >it, I will just find another. We are in Phoenix, Az by the way and if >anyone in this area knows any Physicians who are good please let me know.>Shirley>>>cathy wrote:>>Shirley,>It sounds like the doc took care of the c-toma if he took out the>hearing bones and cleaned out the mastoid. That's well beyond>repairing the eardrum. I would ask the surgeon to tell you exactly>if he rmoved the c-toma and what follow up he has planned. If he did>a canal wall up procedure then he'll need to do a second-look surgery>sometime in the next year. I'm sure he plans on

giving you more info>at your child's follow up visit but you should be prepared with a>list of questions to ask him. In the meantime, I'm sure you can tell>by what you've read that water is the enemy and you need to keep the>ear dry no matter what has already been done and what else needs to>be done.>Good luck,>>> >> >> > Hi, I am new to this cholesteatoma thing. Haven't gotten much info> > yet. My eight year old just had surgery the 12th to repair a hole>in> > the eardrum, and the surgeon came out and told us he found the "C"> > and not to worry he would follow through, but from things I have> > found on the Net, and heard from this group it is way more serious> > than he stated. Any ideas for me. Appreciate any and all help I>can> >

get. He took out two hearing bones and went through the mastoid to> > clear it all out.> > Shirley Moma>>>>>>

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Hi Dani,

I don't know when I hear someone so young has a hip replacement done and I didn't have mind done until I was 57 that was the year 2000 mind didn't go that well so I'm happy when I hear of the young ones hip operations went ok. Well I welcome you to the group and your learn a lot from this group I did .

Susie

-------------- Original message -------------- > > > > Just wanted to introduced myself. My name is Dani and I'm 30 years > old. I had a total hip replacement in 2001. I think it's the best > thing I ever did. I'm looking forward to getting to know people who > understand the daily trials I go through. > > > > > > > > >

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Hi Dani,

I am 44 and just had a THR in December 2004, I think most of us here

know what u r going thru, yet as with some of us our ops were more

recent..I am sure u can teach us a thing or two, as u had yours a

few years ago...

I am interested to know what your daily trials are..?

Mark

> Hi Dani,

> I don't know when I hear someone so young has a hip replacement

done and I didn't have mind done until I was 57 that was the year

2000 mind didn't go that well so I'm happy when I hear of the young

ones hip operations went ok. Well I welcome you to the group and

your learn a lot from this group I did .

> Susie

>

>

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Just wanted to introduced myself. My name is Dani and I'm 30

years

> > old. I had a total hip replacement in 2001. I think it's the

best

> > thing I ever did. I'm looking forward to getting to know people

who

> > understand the daily trials I go through.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Dani, I am here, too. Marge

Dear Dani,Welcome also. Gee--after 4 years, are you continuing to go through daily trials? Do you feel you can share them with us? Eleanor

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Hi le,

Welcome to the group. What was the reason

for your op at such a young age? I am 34 and I had a TLHR and bone

grafting 4/10/04 and my recovery has been slow.

I’m glad that you feel it was a good

thing to do- I don’t see it that way at the mo.

Jo

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Thank you to all of you that gave me such a warm welcome. Some of

you asked for more background on me, so here goes....

When I was 12 years old, I dislocated my right hip. It wasn't

something that just suddenly happened. I limped around for a while

and my parents just thought I was doing it to get attention.

Finally, my dad took me to see a bone specialist and we found out the

truth. I had 3 pins put in my hip a week later with the hopes that

it would heal itself. It didn't. Nine months later I was told the

pins had to come out because they were causing other problems. I

eventually developed arthritis which destroyed what was left of my

hip. I was told I would have to have a replacement when I was done

growing. By the time I would have " finished growing " , I was working

a full time plus job in a restaurant, sometimes pulling 12 hour

shifts. I still didn't have enough money to get the surgery I needed

and state assistance was out of the question. I met a wonderful man

in 1999 that said he would take care of me. He watched me day after

day struggling to stand or walk and felt it would be best if I quit

my job. I still worked once in a while on a call in basis for about

a year until the place closed. Immediately, my mom started pushing

me to sign up for state assistance and disability since I was no

longer working. Luckily, I was approved for both. I had my

replacement in January of 2001. I was so scared, but I kept thinking

of the benefits. My fiance' had just bought me a new house and I

couldn't even take care of it or him. I couldn't walk in the grocery

store or anywhere else for that matter. I was told I would be in a

wheelchair by the time I turned 30. The recovery was hard, but worth

it. The pain from the arthritis went away and I felt better than I

had in years. I have recently developed arthritis in my knees, left

hip and lower back. Some days it's unbearable, but then I think

about where I was 4 years ago and just keep pushing. Everybody heals

differently. I wish everyone the best. Thank you for letting me

share.

Dani

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Dear Dani,

Thankyou so much for sharing with us. Oh my--you have been through so

much and at such a young age. What has helped you get through it? I am

sure if I asked your fiancé, your Mom or your friends they could tell

us.

How frustrating (to put it mildly!) to have the new problems with

arthritis. I'm assuming you've tried glucosamine sulphate? It

certainly seems to work for some people in helping arthritic pain--was

amazing for my husband, but not so much for me. My cousin who is a vets

uses it on arthritic animals and finds it can help a lot. There have

also been good medical trials.

Some people also find different diets (usually non-inflammatory foods eg

cutting out acid fruits like oranges and tomatoes) help with

arthritis--but different things seem to work (or not) for different

people, so one needs to experiment. I found trying out different

arthritis diets helped me lose weight at least, which of course, helped

my arthritis. Am not convinced cutting out certain foods helped me

personally.

I also have arthritis in my back and use Pilates and

Technique. You probably don't have ' Technique' in the States?

I live in England. But I have found that by using my back differently

when sitting, standing and walking, it helps the Arthritis. Just

curious if you have tried any other non-medical things for your back?

Some people find gentle Yoga helpful as well. But all that doesn't help

your knees.

And finally, it is dreadful about needing 'assistance' or insurance for

operations. It is so good in England having the National Health

Service. Even though we all complain about aspects of it from time to

time, it is invaluable and does such good work.

Eleanor

Re: newbie

Thank you to all of you that gave me such a warm welcome. Some of

you asked for more background on me, so here goes....

When I was 12 years old, I dislocated my right hip. It wasn't

something that just suddenly happened. I limped around for a while

and my parents just thought I was doing it to get attention.

Finally, my dad took me to see a bone specialist and we found out the

truth. I had 3 pins put in my hip a week later with the hopes that

it would heal itself. It didn't. Nine months later I was told the

pins had to come out because they were causing other problems. I

eventually developed arthritis which destroyed what was left of my

hip. I was told I would have to have a replacement when I was done

growing. By the time I would have " finished growing " , I was working

a full time plus job in a restaurant, sometimes pulling 12 hour

shifts. I still didn't have enough money to get the surgery I needed

and state assistance was out of the question. I met a wonderful man

in 1999 that said he would take care of me. He watched me day after

day struggling to stand or walk and felt it would be best if I quit

my job. I still worked once in a while on a call in basis for about

a year until the place closed. Immediately, my mom started pushing

me to sign up for state assistance and disability since I was no

longer working. Luckily, I was approved for both. I had my

replacement in January of 2001. I was so scared, but I kept thinking

of the benefits. My fiance' had just bought me a new house and I

couldn't even take care of it or him. I couldn't walk in the grocery

store or anywhere else for that matter. I was told I would be in a

wheelchair by the time I turned 30. The recovery was hard, but worth

it. The pain from the arthritis went away and I felt better than I

had in years. I have recently developed arthritis in my knees, left

hip and lower back. Some days it's unbearable, but then I think

about where I was 4 years ago and just keep pushing. Everybody heals

differently. I wish everyone the best. Thank you for letting me

share.

Dani

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Eleanor,

My family and friends were so great with my recovery. My mom came

and stayed with us for 3 months to help me so my fiance' could work

and when she needed to run errands, my friends came out to help me if

I felt I needed it. I had a slow recovery compared to today's

surgeries. I used a walker for 4 weeks, then crutches for 4 weeks,

and my cane for 8 weeks. My doctor was worried about me because I

had not walked " normal " for so long, he was afraid I would take

advantage of it. Also, I have been overweight my whole life and he

was afraid of the extra weight on my new hip. I have not tried

glucosamine. I never felt like the pain was that great after

surgery. Even the arthritis pain I feel now in the other parts of my

body doesn't compare to the pain I felt before my THR. I am taking a

non-inflammatory medication that does the trick. As far as my back,

since I started walking religiously a month ago, my back pain has

subsided a little. It goes back the old phrase " Use it or lose it " .

I refuse to lose it.

I never heard of cutting out certain foods in your diet. I was told

by an indian medicine man that 2 shots of apple cidar vinegar a day

will cure anything. I can't bring myself to drink it though. I did

buy the pill form and have not been sick since I started taking them

about 6 months ago. Maybe he knew what he was talking about. I have

also read that hot peppers contain chemicals that relieve arthritis

pain. I don't have the stomach for that stuff either because of acid

reflux.

Good luck to all!

Dani

> Dear Dani,

>

> Thankyou so much for sharing with us. Oh my--you have been through

so

> much and at such a young age. What has helped you get through it?

I am

> sure if I asked your fiancé, your Mom or your friends they could

tell

> us.

>

> How frustrating (to put it mildly!) to have the new problems with

> arthritis. I'm assuming you've tried glucosamine sulphate? It

> certainly seems to work for some people in helping arthritic pain--

was

> amazing for my husband, but not so much for me. My cousin who is a

vets

> uses it on arthritic animals and finds it can help a lot. There have

> also been good medical trials.

>

> Some people also find different diets (usually non-inflammatory

foods eg

> cutting out acid fruits like oranges and tomatoes) help with

> arthritis--but different things seem to work (or not) for different

> people, so one needs to experiment. I found trying out different

> arthritis diets helped me lose weight at least, which of course,

helped

> my arthritis. Am not convinced cutting out certain foods helped me

> personally.

>

> I also have arthritis in my back and use Pilates and

> Technique. You probably don't have ' Technique' in the

States?

> I live in England. But I have found that by using my back

differently

> when sitting, standing and walking, it helps the Arthritis. Just

> curious if you have tried any other non-medical things for your

back?

> Some people find gentle Yoga helpful as well. But all that doesn't

help

> your knees.

>

> And finally, it is dreadful about needing 'assistance' or insurance

for

> operations. It is so good in England having the National Health

> Service. Even though we all complain about aspects of it from time

to

> time, it is invaluable and does such good work.

>

> Eleanor

>

> Re: newbie

>

>

>

>

> Thank you to all of you that gave me such a warm welcome. Some of

> you asked for more background on me, so here goes....

>

> When I was 12 years old, I dislocated my right hip. It wasn't

> something that just suddenly happened. I limped around for a while

> and my parents just thought I was doing it to get attention.

> Finally, my dad took me to see a bone specialist and we found out

the

> truth. I had 3 pins put in my hip a week later with the hopes that

> it would heal itself. It didn't. Nine months later I was told the

> pins had to come out because they were causing other problems. I

> eventually developed arthritis which destroyed what was left of my

> hip. I was told I would have to have a replacement when I was done

> growing. By the time I would have " finished growing " , I was

working

> a full time plus job in a restaurant, sometimes pulling 12 hour

> shifts. I still didn't have enough money to get the surgery I

needed

> and state assistance was out of the question. I met a wonderful

man

> in 1999 that said he would take care of me. He watched me day

after

> day struggling to stand or walk and felt it would be best if I quit

> my job. I still worked once in a while on a call in basis for

about

> a year until the place closed. Immediately, my mom started pushing

> me to sign up for state assistance and disability since I was no

> longer working. Luckily, I was approved for both. I had my

> replacement in January of 2001. I was so scared, but I kept

thinking

> of the benefits. My fiance' had just bought me a new house and I

> couldn't even take care of it or him. I couldn't walk in the

grocery

> store or anywhere else for that matter. I was told I would be in a

> wheelchair by the time I turned 30. The recovery was hard, but

worth

> it. The pain from the arthritis went away and I felt better than I

> had in years. I have recently developed arthritis in my knees,

left

> hip and lower back. Some days it's unbearable, but then I think

> about where I was 4 years ago and just keep pushing. Everybody

heals

> differently. I wish everyone the best. Thank you for letting me

> share.

>

> Dani

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hey all – I’m interested in

the anti- arthritis diet?  Tomatoes and oranges, you say.  What medical proof 

can you offer?

I did read recently that the glucosamine

sulfate has been recommended.

Cheryl  in Missouri

Re: newbie

Thank you to all of you that gave me such a warm

welcome. Some of

you asked for more background on me, so here

goes....

When I was 12 years old, I dislocated my right

hip. It wasn't

something that just suddenly happened. I

limped around for a while

and my parents just thought I was doing it to get

attention.

Finally, my dad took me to see a bone specialist

and we found out the

truth. I had 3 pins put in my hip a week

later with the hopes that

it would heal itself. It didn't. Nine

months later I was told the

pins had to come out because they were causing

other problems. I

eventually developed arthritis which destroyed

what was left of my

hip. I was told I would have to have a

replacement when I was done

growing. By the time I would have " finished

growing " , I was working

a full time plus job in a restaurant, sometimes

pulling 12 hour

shifts. I still didn't have enough money to

get the surgery I needed

and state assistance was out of the

question. I met a wonderful man

in 1999 that said he would take care of me.

He watched me day after

day struggling to stand or walk and felt it would

be best if I quit

my job. I still worked once in a while on a

call in basis for about

a year until the place closed. Immediately,

my mom started pushing

me to sign up for state assistance and disability

since I was no

longer working. Luckily, I was approved for

both. I had my

replacement in January of 2001. I was so

scared, but I kept thinking

of the benefits. My fiance' had just bought

me a new house and I

couldn't even take care of it or him. I

couldn't walk in the grocery

store or anywhere else for that matter. I

was told I would be in a

wheelchair by the time I turned 30. The

recovery was hard, but worth

it. The pain from the arthritis went away

and I felt better than I

had in years. I have recently developed

arthritis in my knees, left

hip and lower back. Some days it's

unbearable, but then I think

about where I was 4 years ago and just keep

pushing. Everybody heals

differently. I wish everyone the best.

Thank you for letting me

share.

Dani

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It sure did work, Maxine, welcome!

Marge

Hello All,

I sent two messages this afternoon and they haven't shown up.

Is there something I'm suppose to do besides join?

I DID get this letter from the moderator that said SPAM will not be tolerated, but, I didn't post any spam. Just replied to a couple posts.

I'll try this and see if this works. ..... Maxine

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Hi Maxine,

I found that out to when I 1st posted messages, they sometimes take

awhile to be posted, sometimes if u r lucky it will go straight

thru, depending on the times of the day.

Mark

>

> It sure did work, Maxine, welcome!

> Marge

>

> Hello All,

> I sent two messages this afternoon and they haven't shown up.

> Is there something I'm suppose to do besides join?

> I DID get this letter from the moderator that said SPAM will not

be tolerated, but, I didn't post any spam. Just replied to a couple

posts.

> I'll try this and see if this works. ..... Maxine

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It is actually because the group is moderates all newbies

on the list.

It is a very good thing they do, because we would be

flooded with " Arthritis cures " and " Viagra specials " if the

list owner didn't do that.

It would be good if they set the response up so that a

message went to newcomers explaining this. It can be done

in the email when they are approved to join the group.

It is frustrating at first, but obviously the moderators do

read the posts because they approve people and take them

off moderation quite quickly.

Just be thankful for the spam free discussions on here. It

is worth the early frustration.

Aussie Margaret

Re: Newbie

>

>

> Hi Maxine,

> I found that out to when I 1st posted messages, they

sometimes take

> awhile to be posted, sometimes if u r lucky it will go

straight

> thru, depending on the times of the day.

> Mark

>

>

>

>

> >

> > It sure did work, Maxine, welcome!

> > Marge

> >

> > Hello All,

> > I sent two messages this afternoon and they haven't

shown up.

> > Is there something I'm suppose to do besides join?

> > I DID get this letter from the moderator that said SPAM

will not

> be tolerated, but, I didn't post any spam. Just replied

to a couple

> posts.

> > I'll try this and see if this works. ..... Maxine

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Please remember that might play a part in this. I belong to

several boards that don't moderate all messages and the same thing

happens on a regular basis. We just chalk it up to our being too

chatty. LOL

cheers,

dave

> > >

> > > It sure did work, Maxine, welcome!

> > > Marge

> > >

> > > Hello All,

> > > I sent two messages this afternoon and they haven't

> shown up.

> > > Is there something I'm suppose to do besides join?

> > > I DID get this letter from the moderator that said SPAM

> will not

> > be tolerated, but, I didn't post any spam. Just replied

> to a couple

> > posts.

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> >

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Hi

The symptoms you describe aren't unusual. Mosst of it is due to the pressure that the ctoma is exerting on all the surrounding structures in the ear. Facial numbness and loss of taste are associated with with the pressure or stretching of the cranial nerve which runs through the ear. Other possible symptoms may be a dull pain in the mastoid area, headaches, possible dizziness and maybe a stiffness in the neck or shoulder. An infected ctomas are more dectructive. You know when a ctoma is infected because it causes a nasty smelling discharge. An infected ctoma doesn't usually respind to antibiotics. I hope you get it sorted soom.

Phil

Greetings fellow irritated ones, I was recently diagnosed with ctoma in my left ear, but the odd thing was most of my pain was coming from my right ear (which is what prompted the CT Scan that found the ctoma). The right ear had that radical mastoidectomy surgery a few years back and now it seems it takes 10 times longer for an ear infection to go away. I am also experiencing numbness on the right side of my face and tongue as well as the occaisional stabbing pain inside the ear. Anyone else havethese symptoms?The fullness feeling is in both ears and gets on my nerves at times.I cannot get in to see the "c'toma specialist" at the Michigan Ear Institute until April 21 - anyone ever go to the MEI? I've had tubes in my ears about 17 times since I was 6 (I am 41 now) and I pray my children do not have to go through any of the same torture I have endured.My regular ENT gave me a prescription for vicoprofen - warning for those who havent had it before - DO NOT OPERATE anything heavier than the TV remote while on this drug.Thanks in advance for any advice!

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Hello ,

I sympathize with your irritation with regards to this condition. I had a mastoidectomy and tympanoplasty done for ctoma in my left ear in January 2004. Not fun. The surgery itself was a breeze. I mean, how can surgery be bad - you're out like a light! The not-so-fun part was the recovery process. I'm sure everyone is different, but I was told by my ENT that I'd be back to work w/in a few days. Yeah right! I was BED RIDDEN for a week because of dizziness. I do have to say though, once I went back to get the plug removed (a week after surgery), the dizziness pretty much went away immediately - I'm thinking the pressure of the plug in the ear was causing the balance issues.

Anyhow - good luck with everything! Culp <jfculp@...> wrote:

Greetings fellow irritated ones, I was recently diagnosed with ctoma in my left ear, but the odd thing was most of my pain was coming from my right ear (which is what prompted the CT Scan that found the ctoma). The right ear had that radical mastoidectomy surgery a few years back and now it seems it takes 10 times longer for an ear infection to go away. I am also experiencing numbness on the right side of my face and tongue as well as the occaisional stabbing pain inside the ear. Anyone else havethese symptoms?The fullness feeling is in both ears and gets on my nerves at times.I cannot get in to see the "c'toma specialist" at the Michigan Ear Institute until April 21 - anyone ever go to the MEI? I've had tubes in my ears about 17 times since I was 6 (I am 41 now) and I pray my children do not have to

go through any of the same torture I have endured.My regular ENT gave me a prescription for vicoprofen - warning for those who havent had it before - DO NOT OPERATE anything heavier than the TV remote while on this drug.Thanks in advance for any advice!

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Thanks for that. I recall the week long rest I had

after the mastoidectomy and having to sleep with that

annoying round plastic bowl-thingy on my head that

resembled an athletic supporting device...thank

goodness for vicodin.

--- Amy Terry <alterry007@...> wrote:

> Hello ,

>

> I sympathize with your irritation with regards to

> this condition. I had a mastoidectomy and

> tympanoplasty done for ctoma in my left ear in

> January 2004. Not fun. The surgery itself was a

> breeze. I mean, how can surgery be bad - you're out

> like a light! The not-so-fun part was the recovery

> process. I'm sure everyone is different, but I was

> told by my ENT that I'd be back to work w/in a few

> days. Yeah right! I was BED RIDDEN for a week

> because of dizziness. I do have to say though, once

> I went back to get the plug removed (a week after

> surgery), the dizziness pretty much went away

> immediately - I'm thinking the pressure of the plug

> in the ear was causing the balance issues.

>

> Anyhow - good luck with everything!

>

> Culp <jfculp@...> wrote:

>

>

> Greetings fellow irritated ones,

>

> I was recently diagnosed with ctoma in my left ear,

> but the odd thing

> was most of my pain was coming from my right ear

> (which is what

> prompted the CT Scan that found the ctoma). The

> right ear had that

> radical mastoidectomy surgery a few years back and

> now it seems it

> takes 10 times longer for an ear infection to go

> away. I am also

> experiencing numbness on the right side of my face

> and tongue as well

> as the occaisional stabbing pain inside the ear.

> Anyone else have

> these

> symptoms?

>

> The fullness feeling is in both ears and gets on my

> nerves at times.

>

> I cannot get in to see the " c'toma specialist " at

> the Michigan Ear

> Institute until April 21 - anyone ever go to the

> MEI?

>

> I've had tubes in my ears about 17 times since I was

> 6 (I am 41 now)

> and I pray my children do not have to go through any

> of the same

> torture I have endured.

>

> My regular ENT gave me a prescription for vicoprofen

> - warning for

> those who havent had it before - DO NOT OPERATE

> anything heavier than

> the TV remote while on this drug.

>

> Thanks in advance for any advice!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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-

Yes, the cup for the ear was horrid. I felt like a

total weirdo with that thing on my head. The best

part was driving home from the hospital and having

other motorists looking at me like I was from another

planet. That was entertaining.

I must say however, I was prescribed Oxy Codone (sp?)

and I never took it. I was afraid I'd never wake up!

Amy

--- Culp <jfculp@...> wrote:

>

> Thanks for that. I recall the week long rest I had

> after the mastoidectomy and having to sleep with

> that

> annoying round plastic bowl-thingy on my head that

> resembled an athletic supporting device...thank

> goodness for vicodin.

>

> --- Amy Terry <alterry007@...> wrote:

> > Hello ,

> >

> > I sympathize with your irritation with regards to

> > this condition. I had a mastoidectomy and

> > tympanoplasty done for ctoma in my left ear in

> > January 2004. Not fun. The surgery itself was a

> > breeze. I mean, how can surgery be bad - you're

> out

> > like a light! The not-so-fun part was the

> recovery

> > process. I'm sure everyone is different, but I

> was

> > told by my ENT that I'd be back to work w/in a few

> > days. Yeah right! I was BED RIDDEN for a week

> > because of dizziness. I do have to say though,

> once

> > I went back to get the plug removed (a week after

> > surgery), the dizziness pretty much went away

> > immediately - I'm thinking the pressure of the

> plug

> > in the ear was causing the balance issues.

> >

> > Anyhow - good luck with everything!

> >

> > Culp <jfculp@...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Greetings fellow irritated ones,

> >

> > I was recently diagnosed with ctoma in my left

> ear,

> > but the odd thing

> > was most of my pain was coming from my right ear

> > (which is what

> > prompted the CT Scan that found the ctoma). The

> > right ear had that

> > radical mastoidectomy surgery a few years back and

> > now it seems it

> > takes 10 times longer for an ear infection to go

> > away. I am also

> > experiencing numbness on the right side of my face

> > and tongue as well

> > as the occaisional stabbing pain inside the ear.

> > Anyone else have

> > these

> > symptoms?

> >

> > The fullness feeling is in both ears and gets on

> my

> > nerves at times.

> >

> > I cannot get in to see the " c'toma specialist " at

> > the Michigan Ear

> > Institute until April 21 - anyone ever go to the

> > MEI?

> >

> > I've had tubes in my ears about 17 times since I

> was

> > 6 (I am 41 now)

> > and I pray my children do not have to go through

> any

> > of the same

> > torture I have endured.

> >

> > My regular ENT gave me a prescription for

> vicoprofen

> > - warning for

> > those who havent had it before - DO NOT OPERATE

> > anything heavier than

> > the TV remote while on this drug.

> >

> > Thanks in advance for any advice!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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It is posts like yours that make me grateful:

I have had my share of problems but never as bad

as you sound. Occassionally now I still get a full

ear feeling. After reconstruction surgery (no.2 is

coming up), I had ear pangs. I still do ocasionally

get a numb feeling in my face but it doesn't last

long. My wife has noticed a mild paralysis, those who

know me well notice it but most don't. The biggest

annoying thing is the tinnitus which is guaranteed to

start at night when my head is on my pillow. Hang in

there. For the most part 90 percent of the time, I

live normal but for now I am half deaf.

--- Culp <jfculp@...> wrote:

>

>

> Greetings fellow irritated ones,

>

> I was recently diagnosed with ctoma in my left ear,

> but the odd thing

> was most of my pain was coming from my right ear

> (which is what

> prompted the CT Scan that found the ctoma). The

> right ear had that

> radical mastoidectomy surgery a few years back and

> now it seems it

> takes 10 times longer for an ear infection to go

> away. I am also

> experiencing numbness on the right side of my face

> and tongue as well

> as the occaisional stabbing pain inside the ear.

> Anyone else have

> these

> symptoms?

>

> The fullness feeling is in both ears and gets on my

> nerves at times.

>

> I cannot get in to see the " c'toma specialist " at

> the Michigan Ear

> Institute until April 21 - anyone ever go to the

> MEI?

>

> I've had tubes in my ears about 17 times since I was

> 6 (I am 41 now)

> and I pray my children do not have to go through any

> of the same

> torture I have endured.

>

> My regular ENT gave me a prescription for vicoprofen

> - warning for

> those who havent had it before - DO NOT OPERATE

> anything heavier than

> the TV remote while on this drug.

>

> Thanks in advance for any advice!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I only had the ear protection cup on my head when I

was a kid. Most surgeries since then have been huge

gauze bandage which I was allowed to remove in 24

hours. The last surgery I had wasn't too bad for

recovery symptoms and time off. I took exactly 14

hours for the anesthesia to wear off. I took one pain

pill which I think prolonged the recovery time. I

was back to work in 3 days time with 18 staples in my

head.

--- Amy Terry <alterry007@...> wrote:

> -

>

> Yes, the cup for the ear was horrid. I felt like a

> total weirdo with that thing on my head. The best

> part was driving home from the hospital and having

> other motorists looking at me like I was from

> another

> planet. That was entertaining.

>

> I must say however, I was prescribed Oxy Codone

> (sp?)

> and I never took it. I was afraid I'd never wake

> up!

>

> Amy

> --- Culp <jfculp@...> wrote:

> >

> > Thanks for that. I recall the week long rest I had

> > after the mastoidectomy and having to sleep with

> > that

> > annoying round plastic bowl-thingy on my head that

> > resembled an athletic supporting device...thank

> > goodness for vicodin.

> >

> > --- Amy Terry <alterry007@...> wrote:

> > > Hello ,

> > >

> > > I sympathize with your irritation with regards

> to

> > > this condition. I had a mastoidectomy and

> > > tympanoplasty done for ctoma in my left ear in

> > > January 2004. Not fun. The surgery itself was

> a

> > > breeze. I mean, how can surgery be bad - you're

> > out

> > > like a light! The not-so-fun part was the

> > recovery

> > > process. I'm sure everyone is different, but I

> > was

> > > told by my ENT that I'd be back to work w/in a

> few

> > > days. Yeah right! I was BED RIDDEN for a week

> > > because of dizziness. I do have to say though,

> > once

> > > I went back to get the plug removed (a week

> after

> > > surgery), the dizziness pretty much went away

> > > immediately - I'm thinking the pressure of the

> > plug

> > > in the ear was causing the balance issues.

> > >

> > > Anyhow - good luck with everything!

> > >

> > > Culp <jfculp@...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Greetings fellow irritated ones,

> > >

> > > I was recently diagnosed with ctoma in my left

> > ear,

> > > but the odd thing

> > > was most of my pain was coming from my right ear

> > > (which is what

> > > prompted the CT Scan that found the ctoma). The

> > > right ear had that

> > > radical mastoidectomy surgery a few years back

> and

> > > now it seems it

> > > takes 10 times longer for an ear infection to go

> > > away. I am also

> > > experiencing numbness on the right side of my

> face

> > > and tongue as well

> > > as the occaisional stabbing pain inside the ear.

> > > Anyone else have

> > > these

> > > symptoms?

> > >

> > > The fullness feeling is in both ears and gets on

> > my

> > > nerves at times.

> > >

> > > I cannot get in to see the " c'toma specialist "

> at

> > > the Michigan Ear

> > > Institute until April 21 - anyone ever go to the

> > > MEI?

> > >

> > > I've had tubes in my ears about 17 times since I

> > was

> > > 6 (I am 41 now)

> > > and I pray my children do not have to go through

> > any

> > > of the same

> > > torture I have endured.

> > >

> > > My regular ENT gave me a prescription for

> > vicoprofen

> > > - warning for

> > > those who havent had it before - DO NOT OPERATE

> > > anything heavier than

> > > the TV remote while on this drug.

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance for any advice!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Tahnks - but keep in mind that being half deaf

comes in handy when it comes to doing that " honey do "

list (Just kidding...it's nothing to joke about, but

humor helps me cope).

Try having a fan or air cleaner on at night - the

" white noise " seems to help a few friends of mine with

their tinnitis.

Take care.

--- robert powell <robert_powell82@...> wrote:

> It is posts like yours that make me grateful:

>

> I have had my share of problems but never as

> bad

> as you sound. Occassionally now I still get a full

> ear feeling. After reconstruction surgery (no.2 is

> coming up), I had ear pangs. I still do ocasionally

> get a numb feeling in my face but it doesn't last

> long. My wife has noticed a mild paralysis, those

> who

> know me well notice it but most don't. The biggest

> annoying thing is the tinnitus which is guaranteed

> to

> start at night when my head is on my pillow. Hang

> in

> there. For the most part 90 percent of the time, I

> live normal but for now I am half deaf.

>

>

> --- Culp <jfculp@...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Greetings fellow irritated ones,

> >

> > I was recently diagnosed with ctoma in my left

> ear,

> > but the odd thing

> > was most of my pain was coming from my right ear

> > (which is what

> > prompted the CT Scan that found the ctoma). The

> > right ear had that

> > radical mastoidectomy surgery a few years back and

> > now it seems it

> > takes 10 times longer for an ear infection to go

> > away. I am also

> > experiencing numbness on the right side of my face

> > and tongue as well

> > as the occaisional stabbing pain inside the ear.

> > Anyone else have

> > these

> > symptoms?

> >

> > The fullness feeling is in both ears and gets on

> my

> > nerves at times.

> >

> > I cannot get in to see the " c'toma specialist " at

> > the Michigan Ear

> > Institute until April 21 - anyone ever go to the

> > MEI?

> >

> > I've had tubes in my ears about 17 times since I

> was

> > 6 (I am 41 now)

> > and I pray my children do not have to go through

> any

> > of the same

> > torture I have endured.

> >

> > My regular ENT gave me a prescription for

> vicoprofen

> > - warning for

> > those who havent had it before - DO NOT OPERATE

> > anything heavier than

> > the TV remote while on this drug.

> >

> > Thanks in advance for any advice!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Debby,

I probably had all those same concerns, I studied this group for one year prior to having the surgery two weeks ago, not because of the concerns but because of my finances, but please if you need to talk, or anyone want to talk, just give me a call, and maybe I can help you with some of your concerns.

Tracie B. in Texas

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You go girl !! You won't regret it. I am one week out today from surgery and doing great. Good Luck to you.

-----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of Debby B.Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 2:42 PM Subject: newbie

Hi everyone,

I have been thinking about having the lap band done but have so many concerns. I'm glad I joined this group though. You all are giving me the courage to get this done by Dr. Aceves. I'll let you all know when my surgery date is.

Debby

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I am new and just making up my mind. Why did you choose

band surgery? I would be very interested to hear from as many

as care to share. I think I'm leaning toward Roux-n-Y because

of the extra help you get from absorbing less of what you eat.

Re: newbie

Debby,

I probably had all those same concerns, I studied this group for one year prior to having the surgery two weeks ago, not because of the concerns but because of my finances, but please if you need to talk, or anyone want to talk, just give me a call, and maybe I can help you with some of your concerns.

Tracie B. in Texas

817-441-5211

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