Guest guest Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 yes I have had DSstep on a nail. Out of all the diseases tetnus doesnt scare me I dont know why but I never htink of it. Tetnus is everywhere dust, soil, some I have read got it from being pricked by a thorn But not sure where I read that. The key with tetnus is make sure IT BLEEDS squeeze it what ever you have to do to make it bleed. And I know homeopathic remedy is helpful when a case that could transmit tetnus is involved. And if worst is worst you can give tetnus shot at time of injury. I cant remeber the specific name of it I am sure someone alot more knowledgeable will respond. ALso check out Sherris site great tetnun info there AMY MOMMY TO 4 KIDDIES Chelsea 10 Carrigian 6 5 Chaela Noelle 20 mo When you know better. You do better..Maya Angelo <A HREF= " http://www.theforgotten.com/vaccines " >Did you know</A> <A HREF= " http://hometown.aol.com/chevy974/myhomepagebaby.html " >The Haskett bunch</A> <A HREF= " http://babiesonline.com/babies/c/chaela/ " >Chaela, born 12/22/2000</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 have decided that my 7 week old will have no vex and my 3 yr old no more vax but I was wondering what other non vaxing families out there have done regarding accidents. Have any of you had a child cut themselves with something dirty etc and did you have them get the tetanus then, when they were actually at risk of it or did you do something else? Also have you taken non vaxed babies swimming at all? I am a bit concerned about the polio vax. I have decided that if either of my kids get cut or hurt with something dirty then I will have the wound tested for Tetanus. If it is positive,then I will get the shot. My baby had the polio at 2 months non since. She is in the pool once a week Chandi Haling Mama to is (12-01-97) and Peyton (04-01-02) Saving the World, One Breastfed Baby at a time!!!! tetanus I have decided that my 7 week old will have no vax and my 3 yr old no more vax but i was wondering what other non vaxing families out there have done regarding accidents. Have any of you had a child cut themselves with something dirty etc and did you have them get the tetanus then, when they were actually at risk of it or did you do something else? Also have you taken non vaxed babies swimming at all? I am a bit concerned about the polio vax. xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 I have decided that if either of my kids get cut or hurt with something dirty then I will have the wound tested for Tetanus. If it is positive,then I will get the shot ----------- so that means tetanus shot will protect and is affective and needed after all in these cases? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 Not necessarily. It has to be an awfully DEEP wound for tetanus. That's my understanding anyway. Anyone else have any thoughts Chandi Haling Mama to is (12-01-97) and Peyton (04-01-02) Saving the World, One Breastfed Baby at a time!!!! Re: tetanus I have decided that if either of my kids get cut or hurt with something dirty then I will have the wound tested for Tetanus. If it is positive,then I will get the shot ----------- so that means tetanus shot will protect and is affective and needed after all in these cases? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 As far as I know, a tetanus shot at the time of injury is pointless, unless you have had earlier shots. The formation of antibodies is relatively slow, so I dont think it is useful. cheers Per Re: tetanus I have decided that if either of my kids get cut or hurt with something dirty then I will have the wound tested for Tetanus. If it is positive,then I will get the shot ----------- so that means tetanus shot will protect and is affective and needed after all in these cases? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 My understanding of tetanus is it has to be really deep and very dirty and nasty. But Ihavent done much research on this yet, just what I heard ... RE: Re: tetanus Not necessarily. It has to be an awfully DEEP wound for tetanus. That's my understanding anyway. Anyone else have any thoughts Chandi Haling Mama to is (12-01-97) and Peyton (04-01-02) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 We don't vax and won't vax for either tetanus or polio either. Polio is basically extinct..the only reported cased of polio in the US in the last 20 years have been from the Polio vax. As far as the tetanus goes..we live with it daily and you don't see people dying from it. The key to wounds is for the wound to bleed....if it bleeds it can not develop tetanus. Read Shari's website about the tetanus and the polio ....she has lots of info. Sandy's site is really good as well. You can also search the archives and find tons on Tetanus because this one is always being discussed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 > Also have you taken non vaxed babies swimming at all? I am a bit > concerned about the polio vax. > > > xx I dont understand the connection between polio and swimming? We go any chance we get weather permitting.(One kid was vaxed to 18 months, one none at all)But all the cases of polio in the states since at least the early 70s have been CAUSED by the live virus in the vax (oral) So, no I dont really worry too much about that one. nisha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 Its the tetanus antitoxin. And I'm a little ticked, I just had my horse gelded, and he needed tetanus (its obviously a deep wound and very likely to get contaminated with manure) but it only comes in a triple jab (EEE/WEE/Tetanus) Ugh! So now I have the worry of the vaxes on top of the surgery. I've given him hypericum, aconite and arnica. www.ChestnutHillCurlies.com Re: Re: tetanus > > yes I have had DSstep on a nail. Out of all the diseases tetnus doesnt scare > me I dont know why but I never htink of it. Tetnus is everywhere dust, soil, > some I have read got it from being pricked by a thorn But not sure where I > read that. > The key with tetnus is make sure IT BLEEDS squeeze it what ever you have to > do to make it bleed. And I know homeopathic remedy is helpful when a case > that could transmit tetnus is involved. And if worst is worst you can give > tetnus shot at time of injury. I cant remeber the specific name of it I am > sure someone alot more knowledgeable will respond. ALso check out Sherris > site great tetnun info there > AMY > MOMMY TO 4 KIDDIES > Chelsea 10 > Carrigian 6 > 5 > Chaela Noelle 20 mo > When you know better. You do better..Maya Angelo > > <A HREF= " http://www.theforgotten.com/vaccines " >Did you know</A> > > <A HREF= " http://hometown.aol.com/chevy974/myhomepagebaby.html " >The Haskett bunch</A> <A HREF= " http://babiesonline.com/babies/c/chaela/ " >Chaela, born 12/22/2000</A> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 I think the thing is, that some of the cases caused by the vaccine are not in the recipients of the vaccine, but people who have been in contact with the recently vaccinated, since they transmit live polio virus Per Re: tetanus > Also have you taken non vaxed babies swimming at all? I am a bit > concerned about the polio vax. > > > xx I dont understand the connection between polio and swimming? We go any chance we get weather permitting.(One kid was vaxed to 18 months, one none at all)But all the cases of polio in the states since at least the early 70s have been CAUSED by the live virus in the vax (oral) So, no I dont really worry too much about that one. nisha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 > I think the thing is, that some of the cases caused by the vaccine are not in the recipients of the vaccine, but people who have been in contact with the recently vaccinated, since they transmit live polio virus > > Per Okay, that is something i hadn't even really thoguht about. Does anyone know if they have or haven't pulled the live virus in the US for kids? I was talking to someone about thisthe other day, and they said that they dont use the live virus at all anymore, and I said that I thought they use a combination now. I've been wrong before, but would really like to know one way or the other. Thanks Nisha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 I really don't think they use the live vaccine anymore Chandi Haling Mama to is (12-01-97) and Peyton (04-01-02) Saving the World, One Breastfed Baby at a time!!!! Re: tetanus > I think the thing is, that some of the cases caused by the vaccine are not in the recipients of the vaccine, but people who have been in contact with the recently vaccinated, since they transmit live polio virus > > Per Okay, that is something i hadn't even really thoguht about. Does anyone know if they have or haven't pulled the live virus in the US for kids? I was talking to someone about thisthe other day, and they said that they dont use the live virus at all anymore, and I said that I thought they use a combination now. I've been wrong before, but would really like to know one way or the other. Thanks Nisha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 BOOOOOOOOO! <http://hotbar.com/scripts/utils/content.asp?requestor=ec1> Is tetanus in our soil? I cannot find anything that says it is. ALthough Peyton's Dr says it is. I have found things that say that its in animal feces,especially Wild animals. Which is why I am figuring it may be in our soil. Chandi Haling Mama to is (12-01-97) and Peyton (04-01-02) Saving the World, One Breastfed Baby at a time!!!! Re: Tetanus We don't vax and won't vax for either tetanus or polio either. Polio is basically extinct..the only reported cased of polio in the US in the last 20 years have been from the Polio vax. As far as the tetanus goes..we live with it daily and you don't see people dying from it. The key to wounds is for the wound to bleed....if it bleeds it can not develop tetanus. Read Shari's website about the tetanus and the polio ....she has lots of info. Sandy's site is really good as well. You can also search the archives and find tons on Tetanus because this one is always being discussed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 There must be fecal material and no bleeding or like a 2nd degree burn where there is no oxygen. Very strange they asked about shots. I've had one son in ER for head wound requiring stitches and no one questioned me. Probably because I was with hubby and they figured he was a " dutiful " dad and all up to date! Laughs on them! My dd also had wisdom teeth removed and no one asked about then,there, either but I've read about people who were ordered to get a tetanus vax b4 doc would remove skin tag! Preposterous! They all live in fear of what they do not know. get to know the diseases and lose your fear. They can be your friend as they will award lifetime immunity and that is something no vax can grant. The odd thing about tetanus? I am sure Sheri has it on her site...there is no such thing as lifetime immunity to tetanus..in other words, if you get it once, you can get it again. So how in the world do they figure a vax is going to confer " immunity " ? And they don't know how many vaxxes or how many boosters will yield that pleasure. They are inside the box and I pity them. Mindless parrots. Laurie>Oh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2002 Report Share Posted October 17, 2002 Hi Laurie, I'm don't think it's true that fecal material has to be involved in tetanus. In fact, tetanus is all around us, from what I understand. (http://www.vaccinationnews.com/DailyNews/May2001/TetanusEMedicine.htm) However, it needs to be a deep puncture wound that closes up. If it is exposed to air, it will not grow. In general, bleeding can help clear it out as will cleansing of the wound site before it closes up. You all might want to read Dr. Tenpenny's article on this: http://www.vaccinationnews.com/DailyNews/June2002/AdultsNoBoosterDiphth & Tet.htm Sandy from Alaska http://www.vaccinationnews.com http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Scandals/past_scandals.htm http://www.whale.to http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm http://www.909shot.com http://www.redflagsweekly.com http://www.thinktwice.com http://home.san.rr.com/via/ http://www.vaccine-info.com http://www.vaccine-info.com http://healing-arts.org/children/vaccines/ ALL INFORMATION, DATA, AND MATERIAL CONTAINED, PRESENTED, OR PROVIDED HERE IS FOR GENERAL INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS REFLECTING THE KNOWLEDGE OR OPINIONS OF THE PUBLISHER, AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED OR INTENDED AS PROVIDING MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO VACCINATE IS AN IMPORTANT AND COMPLEX ISSUE AND SHOULD BE MADE BY YOU, AND YOU ALONE, IN CONSULTATION WITH YOUR HEALTH CARE PROVIDER. IN ADDITION, THE FACT THAT THIS EMAIL HAS BEEN FORWARDED IN NO WAY NECESSARILY IMPLIES ENDORSEMENT OF THE POINT OF VIEW OF THE AUTHOR OR AUTHORS OF THE ARTICLE OR EMAIL. Re: tetanus There must be fecal material and no bleeding or like a 2nd degree burn where there is no oxygen. Very strange they asked about shots. I've had one son in ER for head wound requiring stitches and no one questioned me. Probably because I was with hubby and they figured he was a " dutiful " dad and all up to date! Laughs on them! My dd also had wisdom teeth removed and no one asked about then,there, either but I've read about people who were ordered to get a tetanus vax b4 doc would remove skin tag! Preposterous! They all live in fear of what they do not know. get to know the diseases and lose your fear. They can be your friend as they will award lifetime immunity and that is something no vax can grant. The odd thing about tetanus? I am sure Sheri has it on her site...there is no such thing as lifetime immunity to tetanus..in other words, if you get it once, you can get it again. So how in the world do they figure a vax is going to confer " immunity " ? And they don't know how many vaxxes or how many boosters will yield that pleasure. They are inside the box and I pity them. Mindless parrots. Laurie>Oh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Hi, Please please please do not get a tetanus shot for you or your child. I am a tetanus damaged adult. please. dont do it. love Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 I am so sorry tania. I really am. I hope I did not upset you. Please forgive me. I was not trying to be cruel. love Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 > >Please could anyone inform me of a source of mercury free single >vaccine for tetanus(i.e. not combined with Hib nor >pertussis/diptheria. > >The child is over 6 years old so the type that adults and children >over 7 may recieve is a possibility. > >looking in eithe rthe uSA or the UK >thanks >Tania Please don't anyone flame Tania ......she has no choice In UK there is NONE and there is NO single Tetanus vax - they are using the combo one in the UK -sick In US none of them are mercury free, although you can still get dT but and tetanus toxoid usually. But not without mercury Sheri > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 hi tania, when i last checked, about two years ago, all manufacturers had stopped making the single tetanus vax. the one with the least components at the time was the one combined with diphtheria. claudia --- Tania Berlow <bornjoyful@...> wrote: > > Please could anyone inform me of a source of > mercury free single > vaccine for tetanus(i.e. not combined with Hib nor > pertussis/diptheria. > > The child is over 6 years old so the type that > adults and children > over 7 may recieve is a possibility. > > looking in eithe rthe uSA or the UK > thanks > Tania > > > > > > > > ===== http://www.himalayasalt.co.uk http://www.he-ed.org.uk " We shall no longer hang on to the tails of public opinion or to a non- existent authority on matters utterly unknown and strange. We shall gradually become experts ourselves in the mastery of the knowledge of the Future. " Wilhelm Reich ___________________________________________________________ Win a castle for NYE with your mates and Messenger http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 janet, in this case it's not a matter of choice. please everyone, don't bother if all you wanna say is 'don't do it' as that won't help tania at all! claudia --- lovezgod2@... wrote: > Hi, Please please please do not get a tetanus shot > for you or your child. I > am a tetanus damaged adult. please. dont do it. love > Janet > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ===== http://www.himalayasalt.co.uk http://www.he-ed.org.uk " We shall no longer hang on to the tails of public opinion or to a non- existent authority on matters utterly unknown and strange. We shall gradually become experts ourselves in the mastery of the knowledge of the Future. " Wilhelm Reich ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Tania It would have helped to say a little more as not everyone knows you, but I'm sure you are under huge stress. Everyone, Tania has NO CHOICE in the matter. Sheri > >janet, >in this case it's not a matter of choice. please >everyone, don't bother if all you wanna say is 'don't >do it' as that won't help tania at all! >claudia > > --- lovezgod2@... wrote: >> Hi, Please please please do not get a tetanus shot >> for you or your child. I >> am a tetanus damaged adult. please. dont do it. love >> Janet >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been >> removed] >> >> > >===== >http://www.himalayasalt.co.uk >http://www.he-ed.org.uk > > " We shall no longer hang on to the tails of public opinion or to a non- existent authority on matters utterly unknown and strange. We shall gradually become experts ourselves in the mastery of the knowledge of the Future. " Wilhelm Reich > > > > > >___________________________________________________________ >ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 and it had mercury when it was made In US it is made but laden with MUCH mercury Sheri >hi tania, >when i last checked, about two years ago, all >manufacturers had stopped making the single tetanus >vax. the one with the least components at the time was >the one combined with diphtheria. >claudia > > --- Tania Berlow <bornjoyful@...> wrote: >> >> Please could anyone inform me of a source of >> mercury free single >> vaccine for tetanus(i.e. not combined with Hib nor >> pertussis/diptheria. >> >> The child is over 6 years old so the type that >> adults and children >> over 7 may recieve is a possibility. >> >> looking in eithe rthe uSA or the UK >> thanks >> Tania >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >===== >http://www.himalayasalt.co.uk >http://www.he-ed.org.uk > > " We shall no longer hang on to the tails of public opinion or to a non- existent authority on matters utterly unknown and strange. We shall gradually become experts ourselves in the mastery of the knowledge of the Future. " Wilhelm Reich > > > >___________________________________________________________ >Win a castle for NYE with your mates and Messenger >http://uk.messenger. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 > > Everyone, Tania has NO CHOICE in the matter. I am so sorry! This is sooo sad! I don't have any info, but, I'll pray for Tania!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 As you will all start to learn. 'They' really don't have a clue about all of this. There is NO diagnostic test for tetanus in a person, so they just diagnose by the symptoms, which also are similar to poisoning symptoms. See my webpages on tetanus Sheri At 01:45 PM 3/24/2005 -0800, you wrote: > >I'm not very good at research, but I typed in cause of tetanus in the search box and came up with quite a few hits. This is just a little bit of what I found. Not one site has attributed tetanus to horses and humans only. Soil, manure and dust are mostly listed. I emailed a real Dr. that worked in the busiest trauma center in the US, and she said the 'superstition' includes all animal manure, but she's never seen it proved. > > > >Epidemiology >Persistent spores can be found in the soil (it is more prevalent in cultivated than uncultivated soils) and organisms are routinely isolated from the faeces of many domestic animals, including the dog and cat, and also from humans. > >Anita -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. ****** " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 Call Energique at 1-800-869-8078 and ask for a homeopathic remedy for tetanus. If you have a problem ordering, get back to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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