Religious exemption

[Guest guest]

That was NOT LAW she was being told by the Delaware Department of Health -

only their fantasy. It's what they use to intimidate parents who are

unfamiliar with the law.

Nowhere in the Delaware law is that written.

Kathleen

In a message dated 10/8/2002 9:39:19 AM Central Daylight Time,

zaynetp@... writes:

> check my state laws to make sure they aren't worded like Delaware laws.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,this is what I could find on the web,I live in RI and our laws are

so different,all we have to do is sign a simple form that the school

nurse has to have available(according to the dept of health,my

daughter's preschool did not have it,my friend got them one).Good

luck!

http://home.san.rr.com/via/STATES/req-de.htm

> Hi, all! I e-mailed Department of Social Services re: exemptions

for

> immunizations. When I researched the Delaware Code it was my

understanding

> that I only needed to prepare a notarized Affidavit. They

responded with

> this:

>

> There are two situations under which parents are not required to

immunize

> their children for school entry in Delaware. These are known as the

> religious and the medical exemptions. The religious exemption is

documented

> by providing evidence of membership in an organized religion and

proof that

> the religion has a formal prohibition against immunization. There

is no

> " exemption form " . The parent must submit the evidence which is

usually in

> the form of a letter on the church letterhead signed by the minister

> (pastor, leader, etc.) and it must contain the evidence regarding

their

> religion. We do not accept one person or one family religions--the

> denomination must be

> recognized.

>

> The medical exemption must be documented by a licensed physician

and must

> state that the child has a specific documented allergy or other

legitimate

> medical contraindication to immunization. There must be a basis in

> legitimate medical evidence.

>

> Does anyone else have this problem in their state? Does anyone

live in

> Delaware. Would they provide me with copies of the most recent

laws?

>

> My son is due for his second MMR shot soon and we DO NOT want to

give it to

> him.

>

> Help!

>

> Jean

[Guest guest]

>>There is no " exemption form " . The parent must submit the evidence

which is usually in the form of a letter on the church letterhead signed

by the minister (pastor, leader, etc.) and it must contain the evidence

regarding their religion. We do not accept one person or one family

religions--the denomination must be

recognized.<<

WRONG!!!!!

Did a search and WOW, look what popped up on site of the Dept. of

Educations web site pertainig to Delaware. A copy of what you are to

submit.

(6) Provision for exemption from the immunization program for an

enrollee whose parents or legal guardian, because of individual

religious beliefs, reject the concept of immunization. Such a request

for exemption shall be supported by the affidavit herein set forth:

AFFIDAVIT OF RELIGIOUS BELIEF

STATE OF DELAWARE

................... COUNTY

1. (I) (We) (am) (are) the (parent(s)) (legal guardian(s)) of

.........................................................................

Name of Child

2. (I) (We) hereby (swear) (affirm) that (I) (we) subscribe to a belief

in a relation to a Supreme Being involving duties superior to those

arising from any human relation.

3. (I) (We) further (swear) (affirm) that our belief is sincere and

meaningful and occupies a place in (my) (our) life parallel to that

filled by the orthodox belief in God.

4. This belief is not a political, sociological or philosophical view of

a merely personal moral code.

5. This belief causes (me) (us) to request an exemption from the

mandatory

school vaccination program for

................................................

Name of Child

.........................................................................

Signature of Parent(s) or Legal Guardian(s)

SWORN TO AND SUBSCRIBED before me, a registered Notary Public, this

........... day of ............, 198 .....

...................................................................(Seal)

Notary Public

My commission expires:

.........................................................................

http://www.doe.state.de.us/dpiservices/michie/Part3.htm

Dina Mason

Mom to Dathon, 9, Aspergers, CP, Epilepsy

Virginians for IDEA Compliance

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/vaideacompliance/index.html

Cost of co-pay for vaccinations: $10.00

Cost of trip to Mcs after vaxing: $10.00

Cost of hospitalization after reacting to vax: $300,000.00*

Cost of avoiding vaxes and knowing your child never reacts: PRICELESS

* Actual bill

[Guest guest]

Here is a quote from this vaccine lawyer's website:

http://www.immunizationattorney.com/

" The right to claim exemption from immunization based on religious

beliefs is available to all persons who hold religious beliefs

against immunization regardless of what any state statute may say

regarding the necessity for membership in any particular religious

group or church.

The first amendment to the U.S. Constitution prohibits states from

discriminating between people based on their religious beliefs. If

there is any state law that allows for exemption based on religious

beliefs, it is available to all those people who hold religious

beliefs against immunization even if their beliefs are personal and

unique to them alone. "

big 'ol raspberry to whoever told you that you had to belong to an

organized religious group!

Kayla, mom to (9/98, partially vaxed) and Will (born at home

5/02, and pure as the driven snow)

[Guest guest]

I just went and had it done. I didn't notorize it, they did. The

nurse did ask me what my religion was and I told him he was not

allowed to ask me that and he said his supervisor told him to and I

said it was illegal. They didn't know what they were doing. I had to

tell them and show them the law. First the nurse said I had to have a

letter from my doctor.........duh, thats medical exemption. What

idiots. I feel alot better that its done though. I was so nervous to

walk in there.

in TN

> In Va you have to have it noterized. Go to

http://thinktwice.com/laws.htm for the laws and to

http://www.vaclib.org/pdf/exemption.htm for forms.

> Bambi

> Religious exemption

>

>

> do you have to notarize your letter? Or is it just optional?

>

> in Tn

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Congratulations, ! I know exactly how you felt. I went a couple of

weeks ago to our local health department to pick up 2 religious exemption forms

for my children. I expected a fuss, but got none. Yeah! I got the forms and

took them home and filled them out. I have them in my children's file here at

home. When we get notified by the school that they are past due for their

tetanus boosters, then I'll have the forms ready. We don't go to the doctor

anymore, so I don't need to give them one.

I was relieved that it was so simple (we're in Kentucky). I guess the true test

will come when I have to use them.

Kay in KY

********************

I just went and had it done. I didn't notorize it, they did. The

nurse did ask me what my religion was and I told him he was not

allowed to ask me that and he said his supervisor told him to and I

said it was illegal. They didn't know what they were doing. I had to

tell them and show them the law. First the nurse said I had to have a

letter from my doctor.........duh, thats medical exemption. What

idiots. I feel alot better that its done though. I was so nervous to

walk in there.

in TN

[Guest guest]

In Va you have to have it noterized. Go to http://thinktwice.com/laws.htm for

the laws and to http://www.vaclib.org/pdf/exemption.htm for forms.

Bambi

Religious exemption

do you have to notarize your letter? Or is it just optional?

in Tn

[Guest guest]

When I wrote ours I left it simple and short (I am in the U.S.) and it only had

to be signed by me. I basically stated that I, as parent to such-and-such child

refuse vaccinations due to religious beliefs according to such-and-such (your

state's) law. Then signed it!

Steph

howelleli <howelleli@...> wrote: I'm in

the middle of writing up a rel exemption does my ped have to

sign this? I thought just my husband and I. Any help please and any

tips on writing it thanks in advane to all of you, you are very helpful

Read about my Adventures In Babywearing here:

http://adventuresinbabywearing.blogspot.com/

[Guest guest]

At 06:27 PM 3/5/2007 -0000, you wrote:

>I'm in the middle of writing up a rel exemption does my ped have to

>sign this? I thought just my husband and I. Any help please and any

>tips on writing it thanks in advane to all of you, you are very helpful

no it has nothing to do with your peds

You have to look at your state law and use the exact wording of the law

unless you are in NY or a few other states

What state are you in?

>

Sheri

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

always advise people to word exactly as their state law (except some states

are more challenging)

We need to know what state they are in.

Sheri

At 11:22 AM 3/5/2007 -0800, you wrote:

>When I wrote ours I left it simple and short (I am in the U.S.) and it

only had to be signed by me. I basically stated that I, as parent to

such-and-such child refuse vaccinations due to religious beliefs according

to such-and-such (your state's) law. Then signed it!

>

>Steph

>

>howelleli <howelleli@...> wrote:

I'm in the middle of writing up a rel exemption does my ped have to

> sign this? I thought just my husband and I. Any help please and any

> tips on writing it thanks in advane to all of you, you are very helpful

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hello I'm in NJ thanks Beth

Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: At 06:27 PM 3/5/2007 -0000,

you wrote:

>I'm in the middle of writing up a rel exemption does my ped have to

>sign this? I thought just my husband and I. Any help please and any

>tips on writing it thanks in advane to all of you, you are very helpful

no it has nothing to do with your peds

You have to look at your state law and use the exact wording of the law

unless you are in NY or a few other states

What state are you in?

>

Sheri

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

May I ask what state you are in? I am in Illinois and am going to

fill one out after I get the form.

Thanks,

Kim

I'm in the middle of writing up a rel exemption does my ped have to

> sign this? I thought just my husband and I. Any help please and

any

> tips on writing it thanks in advane to all of you, you are very

helpful

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> Read about my Adventures In Babywearing here:

http://adventuresinbabywearing.blogspot.com/

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[Guest guest]

Is it really for religious reasons? Becuase now they have added an

exemption which is " reasons of conscience " and that is all you have to

say. NO explanation. That is how I did mine.

> I'm in the middle of writing up a rel exemption does my ped have to

> > sign this? I thought just my husband and I. Any help please and

> any

> > tips on writing it thanks in advane to all of you, you are very

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> http://adventuresinbabywearing.blogspot.com/

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[Guest guest]

You can't do that in NJ I was told I had to write it up not to find a form

please help

i and <shawnianderic@...> wrote: Is it really for

religious reasons? Becuase now they have added an

exemption which is " reasons of conscience " and that is all you have to

say. NO explanation. That is how I did mine.

> I'm in the middle of writing up a rel exemption does my ped have to

> > sign this? I thought just my husband and I. Any help please and

> any

> > tips on writing it thanks in advane to all of you, you are very

> helpful

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> > Read about my Adventures In Babywearing here:

> http://adventuresinbabywearing.blogspot.com/

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[Guest guest]

I called the Illinois Dept. of Public Health and I was told that I

had to write up the form and that the school can either accept or

reject my letter. Has anyone ever had their letter rejected? Now I am

nervous about it.

Thanks,

Kim

-- In Vaccinations , beth howell <howelleli@...> wrote:

>

> You can't do that in NJ I was told I had to write it up not to find

a form please help

>

> i and <shawnianderic@...> wrote: Is it really

for religious reasons? Becuase now they have added an

> exemption which is " reasons of conscience " and that is all you have

to

> say. NO explanation. That is how I did mine.

>

>

> > I'm in the middle of writing up a rel exemption does my ped have

to

> > > sign this? I thought just my husband and I. Any help please and

> > any

> > > tips on writing it thanks in advane to all of you, you are very

> > helpful

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> > > Read about my Adventures In Babywearing here:

> > http://adventuresinbabywearing.blogspot.com/

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[Guest guest]

Oh, this makes me nervous too. Anyone from Indianapolis IN? I will be

moving there and I know theirs is religious as well. I guess you have to

find a different school if they reject or do you fight it by saying it is

the law? Ugh...

From: " rwardin " <rwardin@...>

Reply-Vaccinations

Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 02:07:15 -0000

Vaccinations

Subject: Re: Religious exemption

I called the Illinois Dept. of Public Health and I was told that I

had to write up the form and that the school can either accept or

reject my letter. Has anyone ever had their letter rejected? Now I am

nervous about it.

Thanks,

Kim

[Guest guest]

No I will be handing mine in April so we will see what happens.

rwardin <rwardin@...> wrote: I called the Illinois Dept. of

Public Health and I was told that I

had to write up the form and that the school can either accept or

reject my letter. Has anyone ever had their letter rejected? Now I am

nervous about it.

Thanks,

Kim

-- In Vaccinations , beth howell <howelleli@...> wrote:

>

> You can't do that in NJ I was told I had to write it up not to find

a form please help

>

> i and <shawnianderic@...> wrote: Is it really

for religious reasons? Becuase now they have added an

> exemption which is " reasons of conscience " and that is all you have

to

> say. NO explanation. That is how I did mine.

>

>

> > I'm in the middle of writing up a rel exemption does my ped have

to

> > > sign this? I thought just my husband and I. Any help please and

> > any

> > > tips on writing it thanks in advane to all of you, you are very

> > helpful

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> > > Read about my Adventures In Babywearing here:

> > http://adventuresinbabywearing.blogspot.com/

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[Guest guest]

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/exemptions.htm

my webpage with links to NVIC webpage with info

Also contact the group in NJ - they will help

New Jersey (Medical/Religious exemptions)

Sue njaicv@...

New Jersey Alliance for Informed Choice in Vaccination (NJ-AICV)

PO Box 243, Gillette, NJ 07933

(800)-613-9925

Exemptions: www.njleg.sstate.nj.us then access statute 26:1a-9.1

(Dr. , DC is the current director, Drsfosterdc@...)

At 10:04 AM 3/6/2007 -0800, you wrote:

>Hello I'm in NJ thanks Beth

>

>Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: At 06:27 PM 3/5/2007

-0000, you wrote:

>>I'm in the middle of writing up a rel exemption does my ped have to

>>sign this? I thought just my husband and I. Any help please and any

>>tips on writing it thanks in advane to all of you, you are very helpful

>

>no it has nothing to do with your peds

>You have to look at your state law and use the exact wording of the law

>unless you are in NY or a few other states

>What state are you in?

>>

>Sheri

>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

At 08:06 PM 3/6/2007 -0000, you wrote:

>May I ask what state you are in? I am in Illinois and am going to

>fill one out after I get the form.

>

>Thanks,

>Kim

For you, contact help in Illinois

Another state thats a little tricky

Not sure how up to date this is

Also should be links from NVIC's pages for a group

follow links from my pages

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/exemptions.htm

Illinois (Medical/Religious exemptions)

Sherry Wied wiedb@...

Illinois Vaccine Awareness Coalition

321 Sharon Drive

Sleepy Hollow, IL 60118

www.vaccineawareness.org - exemptions on website

Connie Roux croux@...

Illinois Vaccine Awareness Coalition

Barbara Mullarkey Barbara@...

Illinois Vaccine Awareness Coalition

P.O. Box 946, Oak Park, IL 60303

(708) 848-0116

www.vaccineawareness.org - exemptions on website, vaers statistics

Fran Eaton fran@... (exemption problems)

Eagle Forum of Illinois

P.O. Box 233

Oak Forest, IL 60452

www.ileagles.net

Jacke Meyers jackem@...

1610 Taft Avenue

Wheaton, IL 60187

Sheri

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Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

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[Guest guest]

It depends on the state you are in.

Some states you don't have philosophical exemptions and their religious

exemption is similar with similar wording

you can't recommend for anyone else until you know their state law.

Sheri

listowner

At 09:07 PM 3/6/2007 -0000, you wrote:

>Is it really for religious reasons? Becuase now they have added an

>exemption which is " reasons of conscience " and that is all you have to

>say. NO explanation. That is how I did mine.

>

>

>> >

>> > When I wrote ours I left it simple and short (I am in the U.S.) and

>> it only had to be signed by me. I basically stated that I, as parent

>> to such-and-such child refuse vaccinations due to religious beliefs

>> according to such-and-such (your state's) law. Then signed it!

>> >

>> > Steph>

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Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

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[Guest guest]

contact the groups I gave info on for Illinois

Sheri

At 06:22 PM 3/6/2007 -0800, you wrote:

>No I will be handing mine in April so we will see what happens.

>

>rwardin <rwardin@...> wrote: I called the Illinois Dept. of

Public Health and I was told that I

>had to write up the form and that the school can either accept or

>reject my letter. Has anyone ever had their letter rejected? Now I am

>nervous about it.

>

>Thanks,

>Kim

>>

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Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

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[Guest guest]

At 09:21 PM 3/6/2007 -0500, you wrote:

>Oh, this makes me nervous too. Anyone from Indianapolis IN? I will be

>moving there and I know theirs is religious as well. I guess you have to

>find a different school if they reject or do you fight it by saying it is

>the law? Ugh...

>

>

>

look up the law and post it here for us to help

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/exemptions.htm

EVERY STATE is different

Sheri

>

>From: " rwardin " <rwardin@...>

>Reply-Vaccinations

>Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 02:07:15 -0000

>Vaccinations

>Subject: Re: Religious exemption

>

>

>I called the Illinois Dept. of Public Health and I was told that I

>had to write up the form and that the school can either accept or

>reject my letter. Has anyone ever had their letter rejected? Now I am

>nervous about it.

>

>Thanks,

>Kim

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Sheri for the information. The school nurse told me to hand my

letter in the summer and she will submit to the school board. The school

board will either accept it or tell me they need more information.

She also said if there is an outbreak that my daughter will be exempt from

attending school. She mentioned for example measles. I asked if she's ever

seen an outbreak of measles and she said no. I said what about whooping

cough and she said she's seen in her career as an nurse in a 6 week old

baby.

Kim

[Guest guest]

At 10:33 AM 2/4/2008 -0500, you wrote:

>We will most likely be relocating in a year or two. I'm trying to

>gather info on each state that DH is looking at (we're moving so he can

>get his doctorate in religious studies). ATM he's really pushing for

>NC. I'm researching the home schooling and VBAC status of the state as

>well, but I found on the Vac Lib website that NC only allows medical or

>religious exemptions.

>

>How does one use the religious exemption if they are not Christian? The

>sample letter on the Vac Lib site looks like you don't have to have a

>clergy person's signature which would be a good thing. But would this

>just cause more trouble for me if they found out I wasn't a Christian

>person? I don't exactly hide the fact that I'm not.

>

>

I don't suggest going by VacLib site...............

http://www.wellwithin1.com/exemptions.htm

links you to NVIC site with the actual law

Most state's religious exemptions are very broad (almost like philosophical.)

If you are going to NC, PAVE is there - Jillani is a friend of mine

and is PAVE

Easy exemption in NC

BY THE WAY - I have moved to Wheeling WV (part time) and in Wales part time

for this year.

By next November will probably be in Wheeling fulltime except for my tours!

Sheri

listowner

>

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[Guest guest]

The religious exemption doesn't just apply to Christians. It applies to all

religions. I'm Buddhist and I'd use it in a heartbeat if I had to.

--

Roni Bergerson

Independent Monavie Distributor

Celebrate Good Health with Monavie!

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From: " " <OhioVaxInfo@...>

We will most likely be relocating in a year or two. I'm trying to

gather info on each state that DH is looking at (we're moving so he can

get his doctorate in religious studies). ATM he's really pushing for

NC. I'm researching the home schooling and VBAC status of the state as

well, but I found on the Vac Lib website that NC only allows medical or

religious exemptions.

How does one use the religious exemption if they are not Christian? The

sample letter on the Vac Lib site looks like you don't have to have a

clergy person's signature which would be a good thing. But would this

just cause more trouble for me if they found out I wasn't a Christian

person? I don't exactly hide the fact that I'm not.

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, born 06/28/97 - c-section due to brow presentation

Shayna, born 06/01/00 - dr demanded c-section due to variable breech

positioning, turned into complicated inverted T cut

Thalea, born 06/24/07 - VBAC birth center water birth!!

Read my birth story here: http://www.jessicas-haven.com/baby.htm!!

Vaccine free since 1999.