Religious exemption

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> -------------------------------------------------

> NEW LIFE RELIGION

>

> Walter W.D. Heaney

> 4056 Westmeadow Drive, Apt. 107

> Colorado Springs, CO 80906

> 1-800-234-4231 ext.55041

>

> To whom it may concern:

>

> My husband and I started the New Life Religion twenty-four years ago, to

> protect our

> own children from compulsory vaccinations. It is chartered and

> incorporated in the state of New York. Over the years, we have made it

> available to our colleagues and friends, who also did not want their

> children to be vaccinated. Being a member of the New Life Religion,

> should in no way hinder anyone from pursuing any other religious belief.

> The sole reason that anyone joins our religion, is so that they may have

> a bona fide religious exemption from their children having to be

> vaccinated.

>

> If anyone you know, would like more infonnation, or, to become a member

> of the New

> Life Religion, they may reach us at 1-800-234-4231 ext. 55041. They can

> leave a message and we will return their call. For your information, we

> do ask for a one time contribution of $100.00, for a family to join our

> religion. If you have any further questions, please feel free to call

> us, or to give our 800 number to anyone else who might be interested.

> Thank you for your time and your continued interest in matters of

> alternative health solutions.

>

> Yours truly,

>

> A. Heaney D.C.

>

[Guest guest]

GJB... I'm sorry what is HRS? Hate to sound

idiotic but I'm not familiar with that abbreviation.

Thanks for the information! I will send asking

for the tenents and then proceed with a certificate.

Sherri

GJB12292@... wrote:

> From: GJB12292@...

>

> Hi everyone, this is in response to many who have inquired through this

> network and to me directly about religious exemptions. I apologize for taking

> so long to post this and hope that it was worth the wait. I live in Florida

> and used this as my religious exemption to take to HRS...we have had no

> problems since and have had our son in a private day care, a private school

> and now a public school. This religious exemption has nothing to do with your

> belief in G-d, Buddah, (I think you get my point), etc...only how you feel

> about injecting foreign substances into your childs system. It is called The

> Congregation of Universal Wisdom and was brought to my attention by my

> Chiropractor. It was actually started by a Chiropractor in order to help

> people such as ourselves who desire an exemption in order to avoid " shooting "

> our children!! The pertinent information is as follows:

>

> Write to : Doctor Walter Schilling

> 6 Bayou Trail

> Medford, NJ 08055

>

> There is a one time donation for the family of $75.00 ( I believe this is

> commonplace for any of this type of religion). Tell them that you are

> interested in receiving a religious exemption. You may request a copy of the

> tenents first to see what this is all about. Then, if you are " In agreement "

> send them the names of all family members. You will receive a stamped

> certificate from the Congregation of Universal Wisdom. The member needs to

> then call HRS in his/her county and ask for a Religious Exemption form.

> Complete the form and make copies for yourself. Return the exemption ( at

> this point we were counseled on the " RISKS " we were taking, blah, blah,

> blah...) form to HRS> Remember to bring your Religious Affiliation

> Certificate with you to show HRS if they ask. THAT'S IT!! Hope this works

> for those of you desiring this type of exemption. So far, we have not had any

> problems. That doesn't mean we may not somewhere down the line...but we are

> hopeful that with enough of us questioning our ped's and exerting our beliefs,

> we may, eventually, be more of a majority than a minority. Good Luck. Nadine

> P>S> Just to clarify, you do not need to send the donation in order to get a

> copy of the tenents, only for the actual certificate showing you are a

> " member " .

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[Guest guest]

Hi sherri, HRS is another name for the health department. They are THE ONES

who require all the proofs of immunization from schools, day care, etc.../

Good Luck with this! Sincerely, Nadine

[Guest guest]

Hi, ,

I am interested to know how you worded your religious exemption letter.

Re:

>From: Ayaz <claudiaayaz@...>

>

>i think it's high time that we should all campaign to

>stop the bullying by school secretaries etc. it's

>pretty obvious that a lot of people on this list are

>intimidated by the belief that if they don't vaccinate

>their kids they can't get them into school, which

>simply isn't true! i'm talking from experience since i

>did get bullied enough in california, my first

>encounter with the usa, to have my daugher's

>vaccinations updated and again in north carolina where

>the school secretary phoned me every single day for a

>whole month until i arrived at her door step with the

>religious exemption (no philosophical in n.c.). the

>funny thing was that once she knew that i knew the

>rules, she became real friendly and did not have any

>objections.... and from what i've heard from other

>parents, the main worry is that they won't be able to

>keep their kids in school or get them into school

>without vaccinations, which simply isn't true. but at

>present, you really have to have a lot of knowledge

>and/or guts to fight a bullying school secretary, so

>let's campaign for that, for i'm sure, that if that

>lady who had this horrendous and sad experience, had

>known that there are legal exemptions which are easy

>to obtain, she would not have given in to allowing her

>son to be vaccinated, and he would be a 100% healthy

>today! so let's do something about that, because if we

>can get the schools onto our side, or even point out

>to them that it's kind of not legal to bully parents

>to vaccinate their kids, it'll be a major step

>forward! and for those on the list who're living in

>england: just continue educating other parents, cause

>england always follows the u.s. example, it'll be a

>matter of time before schools demand to see proof of

>vaccinations! been there, done that..... and only 2

>years ago! and for those in the usa: if we can get the

>school secretaries etc to simply state the full law

>(and not just half of it), i'm sure, a lot of parents

>would decide against vaccinations. this is my own

>experience in two states: in california i was told by

>the physician and school that if i don't have my

>daugher's vaccinations up to date, she will not be

>admitted to school, which is a blatant lie, and in

>north carolina i was told the same, although there

>they give you 30 days. only then i was lucky enough to

>have done enough research to know better and used

>those thirty days to draw up a 'religious' exempt,

>which was accepted without any problem... i truly

>believe that if our movement could legally force

>schools to state the full law, a lot of damages could

>be avoided. it is so darn tough to be bullied by the

>schools that i have no doubt a lot of parents give in

>simply so they stop being harazzed!

>claudia

>

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[Guest guest]

here you go, see below. now that is north carolina,

each state requires different 'reasons' etc. your best

bet is probably to get in touch with someone from your

own state who's done a religious exemption or if there

is a pro-choice movement, get in touch with them.

that's how i got my exemption, lisa jillani, who runs

the p.a.v.e. (parents advocating vaccine education) in

north carolina...

claudia

State of North Carolina

Application for exemption from medical requirements

In accordance with the laws of North Carolina (see

below), I hereby respectfully request exemption from

the regular immunization and physical examination

entrance requirements on the grounds that such

requirements conflict with my religious convictions.

I certify that I am and have been in good health and

that I have no physical or mental impairment which

would interfere in any way with my studies or

activities or my adjustment to college life; and to my

knowledge, I am free from any communicable disease

which may affect the welfare of the college community.

I agree to submit to a physical examination should I

manifest any condition where there appear to be

reasonable grounds for suspecting the presence of a

communicable or contagious disease; and also if I am

found to have any such disease, I will comply with the

regular quarantine or isolation procedures of the

institution and the community.

I also agree that if I should experience a sudden

emergency involving my health, my parents or guardian

will be notified immediately, but if they cannot be

reached at once, necessary interim emergency care may

be provided.

It is understood that ---------------------

and any of its personnel are released from any

responsibility for any impairment of health resulting

to me because of this exemption while attending said

institution.

Name, street, city/state, telephone

General Statutes of North Carolina

Section 130A-157. Religious exemption – If the bona

fide religious beliefs of an adult or the parent,

guardian or person in loco parentis of a child are

contrary to the immunization requirement contained in

this part, the adult or the child shall be exempt from

the requirements. Upon submission of a written

statement of the bona fide religious beliefs and

opposition to the immunization requirements, the

person may attend the college, university, school or

facility without representing a certificate

immunization.

State of NC

Dept of environment health and street

Suite 200

Winston-salem, NC 27101-413

--- Joe Tabachnick <joeplatinum@...>

wrote:

> From: " Joe Tabachnick "

> <joeplatinum@...>

>

> Hi, ,

> I am interested to know how you worded your

> religious exemption letter.

>

>

>

> Re:

>

>

> >From: Ayaz <claudiaayaz@...>

> >

> >i think it's high time that we should all campaign

> to

> >stop the bullying by school secretaries etc. it's

> >pretty obvious that a lot of people on this list

> are

> >intimidated by the belief that if they don't

> vaccinate

> >their kids they can't get them into school, which

> >simply isn't true! i'm talking from experience

> since i

> >did get bullied enough in california, my first

> >encounter with the usa, to have my daugher's

> >vaccinations updated and again in north carolina

> where

> >the school secretary phoned me every single day for

> a

> >whole month until i arrived at her door step with

> the

> >religious exemption (no philosophical in n.c.). the

> >funny thing was that once she knew that i knew the

> >rules, she became real friendly and did not have

> any

> >objections.... and from what i've heard from other

> >parents, the main worry is that they won't be able

> to

> >keep their kids in school or get them into school

> >without vaccinations, which simply isn't true. but

> at

> >present, you really have to have a lot of knowledge

> >and/or guts to fight a bullying school secretary,

> so

> >let's campaign for that, for i'm sure, that if that

> >lady who had this horrendous and sad experience,

> had

> >known that there are legal exemptions which are

> easy

> >to obtain, she would not have given in to allowing

> her

> >son to be vaccinated, and he would be a 100%

> healthy

> >today! so let's do something about that, because if

> we

> >can get the schools onto our side, or even point

> out

> >to them that it's kind of not legal to bully

> parents

> >to vaccinate their kids, it'll be a major step

> >forward! and for those on the list who're living in

> >england: just continue educating other parents,

> cause

> >england always follows the u.s. example, it'll be a

> >matter of time before schools demand to see proof

> of

> >vaccinations! been there, done that..... and only 2

> >years ago! and for those in the usa: if we can get

> the

> >school secretaries etc to simply state the full law

> >(and not just half of it), i'm sure, a lot of

> parents

> >would decide against vaccinations. this is my own

> >experience in two states: in california i was told

> by

> >the physician and school that if i don't have my

> >daugher's vaccinations up to date, she will not be

> >admitted to school, which is a blatant lie, and in

> >north carolina i was told the same, although there

> >they give you 30 days. only then i was lucky enough

> to

> >have done enough research to know better and used

> >those thirty days to draw up a 'religious' exempt,

> >which was accepted without any problem... i truly

> >believe that if our movement could legally force

> >schools to state the full law, a lot of damages

> could

> >be avoided. it is so darn tough to be bullied by

> the

> >schools that i have no doubt a lot of parents give

> in

> >simply so they stop being harazzed!

> >claudia

> >

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Which denominations qualify for this exemption? I honestly have no idea where

our denomination might stand on such an issue. I know we're not preached to

avoid doctors or anything so I suspect it isn't a " qualifying " one.

I am currently in contact with PA's Department of Health trying to obtain more

information about exemptions. The " Director, Division of Immunizations " wrote

to me and explained about the religious and medical exemptions. They weren't

anything new, but from the information I gathered there had been a philosophical

exemption in PA as well. I'm corresponding with her to find out about those

changes. If that has been changed, I may need to figure out how to qualify for

a religious exemtion. She did state that " school officials use their discretion

in accepting these statements of exemption " . That sounds pretty vague. Does

anyone have any experience with exemptions in Pennsylvania?

Thanks. .

I am sending a copy of my religious exemption that I am handing in today

when I register the kids for school. Keep us in prayer.........

Dawn

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/6/99 6:01:51 PM US Mountain Standard Time,

pienaar@... writes:

<< Their is a very active vaccination group in Pennsylvania >>

Do you know if there is such a group in Arizona?

Thanks,

Becca

[Guest guest]

,

Their is a very active vaccination group in Pennsylvania. It might be worth

getting in touch with them if you haven't already.

Carolyn Morelli

Pennsylvania Parents for Vaccine Awareness

P.O. Box 173

Mill Village, Pa. 16427

(814)796-4000

Email: ppva@...

Web Page: http://www.erie.net/~noshotz

Best wishes,

Sebastiana

At 02:35 PM 8/6/99 -0400, you wrote:

>Which denominations qualify for this exemption? I honestly have no idea where

our denomination might stand on such an issue. I know we're not preached to

avoid doctors or anything so I suspect it isn't a " qualifying " one.

>

>I am currently in contact with PA's Department of Health trying to obtain more

information about exemptions. The " Director, Division of Immunizations " wrote

to me and explained about the religious and medical exemptions. They weren't

anything new, but from the information I gathered there had been a philosophical

exemption in PA as well. I'm corresponding with her to find out about those

changes. If that has been changed, I may need to figure out how to qualify for

a religious exemtion. She did state that " school officials use their discretion

in accepting these statements of exemption " . That sounds pretty vague. Does

anyone have any experience with exemptions in Pennsylvania?

>

>Thanks. .

>

[Guest guest]

becca!

there isn't one yet, cause kelly who is the general

contact (kelly, holler!) hasn't had the time to start

one yet. now i've been kind of starting to talk to

kelly about starting groups here, and it's nice to

know that you're interested! where abouts do you live?

i'm perfectly willing to get going on this issue,

although my time is limited, since we've just bought

40 acres of land and by the looks of it we'll have to

build a home ourselves, since no-one is willing to

give us a mortgage (oh those bloody foreigners, lol,

10 months credit history just ain't enough!).... i've

got the support of lisa jillani, the lady who runs

p.a.v.e. in north carolina, she's got quite a few

groups going throughout her state, and knows how to go

about starting one. maybe you and i and kelly could

get together and get going... i also have a few

names/addresses of doctors who are likely to support

our issue! you can e-mail me privately, so we don't

clogg up the space on the vaccinations list, since

there don't seem to be a lot of people in az!

love

claudia

--- MOFTAP@... wrote:

> From: MOFTAP@...

>

> In a message dated 8/6/99 6:01:51 PM US Mountain

> Standard Time,

> pienaar@... writes:

>

> << Their is a very active vaccination group in

> Pennsylvania >>

>

> Do you know if there is such a group in Arizona?

>

> Thanks,

> Becca

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

For a better copy and more info, go to www.gulfwarvets.com. DOD

regulations allow a religius exemption for not taking vacinnations.

Check this out, read the regulations and apply for your exemption.

CERTIFICATE OF RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION

The following statement of faith sets forth principles that we are to

live by in relation to our beliefs

as related to medical treatment of inoculations, and vaccines and related

cures.

We are called by God to be holy and clean. Leviticus 19:2 " Ye shall be

holy. " Romans 12:1, " I

beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present

your bodies a living sacrifice,

holy, . . . " Holy means not only to be in the service of God, but to be

" clean. " We have a saying,

" Cleanliness is next to godliness. " II Cor 6:17 " touch not the unclean

thing. . . "

Lev 15:2, " When any man hath a running issue out of his flesh, because

of his issue he is unclean. " Those who come into contact with diseased

people also become unclean,

Lev 15, 3-13. Num 19:11, " He that touchth the dead body of any man shall

be unclean seven days. "

The touching of dead or unclean animals also results in our bodies being

unclean or defiled. See Lev

11: 31-40. Diseased or unclean animals, bad bacteria, and virus are not

to come into contact with our

bodies. Because vaccines are made from such unclean sources, to take

them into the body would

defile a person. Vaccines violate our cleanliness and are therefore

unclean and unholy. Leviticus 11:

44, " For I am the Lord your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves,

and ye shall be holy; for I am

holy, neither shall ye defile yourselves with any manner of creeping

thing that creepeth upon the earth. "

Many vaccine inoculations originate directly form aborted baby fetuses.

Abortions are an

abomination to God. Any product derived from this ungodly industry is

cursed by God, and its

products will have a detrimental effect upon those injected by it. See

Deuteronomy 28:15. To use products derived from abortions is a

violation of moral conscience.

The first line of defense against diseases is the skin, and to cut or

puncture the skin is a

violation of Biblical law. " Ye shall not make any cuttings in your

flesh . . . nor print any marks

upon you, " Leviticus 19:28. To inject vaccinations into the body

violates this Biblical principle.

The vaccines are all derived from unclean sources and the manufacture of

them violates Biblical

principles. Furthermore, to inject an unclean, unholy, abominable thing

into the body violates

additional Biblical principles. Therefore, Christians are commanded by

God not to inject anything

into their bodies that would defile them and make them unclean. The

vaccines are such substances

and are therefore forbidden. If we follow Biblical principles that God

has given us, then, " the

Lord shall take away from the all sickness, and will put none of the evil

diseases of Egypt, which thou knowest, upon thee; "

The First Amendment, the law of the land, states that Congress shall

make no law

prohibiting the free exercise of religion. Furthermore, Congress has

not made any laws that

require its civilians or military to take vaccinations, and the right of

religious belief has been

respected by the courts and by Department of Defense regulations (AR

40-562, AFJI 48-110,

BUMEDINST 6230.15). Department of Defense regulations require that this

right be respected to

include even vaccinations and inoculations. Therefore, I request that my

religious right not to have

vaccinations be respected and that I be granted a religious exemption.

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[Guest guest]

Our family has this exemption. Dr. Walter Heaney started it; the group is called

the " New Life Religion. " You pay a fee and he writes you a notarized letter

stating that you and your family are members of this religion. The letter lists

the beliefs of this religion (its only real tenets are against vaccinations).

You need to call and leavea a message on his voice mail, and he will call you

back: 1-800-234-4231 ext. 55041. His address is Dr. Walter Heaney, 57 Sterling

Street, Beacon, NY 12508.

The religion has been in existence for 25 years, and there are over 400 families

that are members as of July 1999. My chiropractor joined when the local health

dept. started causing trouble for them because their kids aren't vaccinated. I

got the info from him.

If you join and get the letter, make sure you ONLY GIVE COPIES of the letter if

you ever have to use it. Never let anyone take your original letter. Dr.

Heaney makes this very clear when he talks to you.

Cyndy

NC

religious exemption

From: " Doles " <pdmej@...>

Quite a while ago somebody posted an address of where to write for a religious

exemption. A chiro had started it. You had to pay a one-time fee. In the

tenets it specifically said something about vaccinations. Did anyone send for

the info? If so, has anyone used it? If you have any info on this feel free to

e-mail me privately if you don't think the list would be interested.

Michele

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Thank you SOOOO much for posting this question and answer publicly! We have

been searching for something like this and are very excited to find out more. I

have put a call in and am waiting to hear back from them. Do you know if the

fee is very high?

Toni, mom to home birthed, cloth diapered, breastfed and attachment parented

Hannah

http://home.clarksville.com/~dth

Our family has this exemption. Dr. Walter Heaney started it; the group is

called the " New Life Religion. " You pay a fee and he writes you a notarized

letter stating that you and your family are members of this religion. The

letter lists the beliefs of this religion (its only real tenets are against

vaccinations). You need to call and leavea a message on his voice mail, and he

will call you back: 1-800-234-4231 ext. 55041. His address is Dr. Walter

Heaney, 57 Sterling Street, Beacon, NY 12508.

The religion has been in existence for 25 years, and there are over 400

families that are members as of July 1999. My chiropractor joined when the

local health dept. started causing trouble for them because their kids aren't

vaccinated. I got the info from him.

[Guest guest]

We paid $100 I believe, but that was a couple years ago.

Re: religious exemption

From: " Toni " <dth@...>

Thank you SOOOO much for posting this question and answer publicly! We have

been searching for something like this and are very excited to find out more. I

have put a call in and am waiting to hear back from them. Do you know if the

fee is very high?

Toni, mom to home birthed, cloth diapered, breastfed and attachment parented

Hannah

http://home.clarksville.com/~dth

Our family has this exemption. Dr. Walter Heaney started it; the group is

called the " New Life Religion. " You pay a fee and he writes you a notarized

letter stating that you and your family are members of this religion. The

letter lists the beliefs of this religion (its only real tenets are against

vaccinations). You need to call and leavea a message on his voice mail, and he

will call you back: 1-800-234-4231 ext. 55041. His address is Dr. Walter

Heaney, 57 Sterling Street, Beacon, NY 12508.

The religion has been in existence for 25 years, and there are over 400

families that are members as of July 1999. My chiropractor joined when the

local health dept. started causing trouble for them because their kids aren't

vaccinated. I got the info from him.

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At 03:11 PM 07/31/2000 EDT, you wrote:

>Does anyone know of the churches (and how to get in touch with them) that

>support non-vaccination? I know there is at least one that you can send

>your " dues " in and receive a membership certificate.

>It seems silly that people need to use religion as a reason for choosing not

>to vaccinate, but what other options are there for people who do not want

>any problems. Having the ability to threaten violation of your first

>amendment right to freedom of religion if there is ever a problem, seems

>like it would put many health officials and schools into their place.

>Thanks in advance!

>Kim

>

You don't need any of this. You just find the exact wording of your state

law and write and sign your statment with that wording. They CANNOT have

you explain your religion, etc. You give them your paper and have a copy

of the state law ready. End of story. If they try to do further, you

don't explain or anything. Show them the law.

Sheri

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Peace....................... :->

Re: Religious exemption

At 03:11 PM 07/31/2000 EDT, you wrote:>Does anyone know of the churches (and how to get in touch with them) that >support non-vaccination? I know there is at least one that you can send >your "dues" in and receive a membership certificate.>It seems silly that people need to use religion as a reason for choosing not >to vaccinate, but what other options are there for people who do not want >any problems. Having the ability to threaten violation of your first >amendment right to freedom of religion if there is ever a problem, seems >like it would put many health officials and schools into their place.>Thanks in advance!>Kim>You don't need any of this. You just find the exact wording of your statelaw and write and sign your statment with that wording. They CANNOT haveyou explain your religion, etc. You give them your paper and have a copyof the state law ready. End of story. If they try to do further, youdon't explain or anything. Show them the law.Sheri--------------------------------------------------------Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CAhttp://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htmANY'>http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htmANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tourshttp://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic EducationKVMR Broadcaster/Programmer/Investigative Reporter, Nevada City CACEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters

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Technically any religion that has 1 Corinthians 2: 6-10. Catholics and

Christians alike have this in there Bibles. This is what is used in the

legal school vaccination and immunization exemption form.

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" And yet I do speak words of wisdom to those who are ripe for it, not a

wisdom belonging to this passing age, not to any of its governing powers,

which are declining t their end; I speak God's hidden wisdom, his secret

purpose framed from the very beginning t bring us to our full glory. The

powers that rule the world have never known it; if they had, they would not

have crucified the Lord of glory. But, in the words of scripture, Things

beyond our seeing, things beyond our hearing, things beyond our imagining,

all prepared by God for those who love him, these it is that God has

revealed to us through the Spirit. "

" Surely you know that you are God's temple, where the Spirit of God dwells.

Anyone who destroys God's temple will himself be destroyed by God, because

the temple of God is holy; and that temple you are. "

This is me speaking, a little difficult to be putting aborted babies in

ourselves and known earthly toxins if this is what you believe. Anyway the

same applies for Tabbacco, and alcohol sex etc. Unfortunately most of us,

myself included pick the bits and pieces that are convenient for us, out of

what ever religion we are.

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From the King Version:

6: Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:

7: But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

8: Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

9: But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

10: But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

I would guess that it's because this is telling us that the 'wisdom' of the government ought never to override the still, small voice of God when it speaks within us.

Be...

Peace......................... :->

Re: Religious exemption

Tom and Muckerheide wrote:> Technically any religion that has 1 Corinthians 2: 6-10.What's the gist of those verses?> Catholics and> Christians alike have this in there Bibles. This is what is used in the> legal school vaccination and immunization exemption form.>> >>

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Tom and Muckerheide wrote:

> Technically any religion that has 1 Corinthians 2: 6-10.

What's the gist of those verses?

> Catholics and

> Christians alike have this in there Bibles. This is what is used in the

> legal school vaccination and immunization exemption form.

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ok - thanks

Peace HomoFreakian wrote:

From

the King Version: 6:

Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom

of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:7:

But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom,

which God ordained before the world unto our glory:8:

Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it,

they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.9:

But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered

into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that

love him.10: But God

hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth

all things, yea, the deep things of God.

I would guess that it's because this is telling us that the 'wisdom' of

the government ought never to override the still, small voice of God when

it speaks within us. Be...Peace.........................

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Re: Religious

exemption

Tom and Muckerheide wrote:

> Technically any religion that has 1 Corinthians 2: 6-10.

What's the gist of those verses?

> Catholics and

> Christians alike have this in there Bibles. This is what is used

in the

> legal school vaccination and immunization exemption form.

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>

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I understand what you are saying, I specifically wrote down what was in the exemption form for the state of Ill. The verses about our bodies being temples and these temples are to be cared for and nurtured like our relationship with God, and we are to respect like we are to respect him makes absolute sense to me. I dont know about anyone lese.

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I understand what you are saying, I specifically wrote down what was in the exemption form for the state of Ill. The verses about our bodies being temples and these temples are to be cared for and nurtured like our relationship with God, and we are to respect like we are to respect him makes absolute sense to me. I dont know about anyone lese.

I still would encourage everyone to only do what your state law says and write your religious exemption with that wording. If you try to add to it you can get into trouble. Copy the law word for word, write your exemption with that wording, give your exemption to the school, if they question given them a copy of the state law. If they challenge you, again point out the law. That is your defense. Write us on the list if things still don't work. But this is the law. If you start to try to explain your religion it opens a can of worms.

Sheri

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Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin

International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers

Education, Homeopathic Education

KVMR Broadcaster/Programmer/Investigative Reporter, Nevada City CA

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Fortunately for me my homeopath gave my the forms with the verses on them. Thank you though.

[Guest guest]

Sandy - isn't there a " generic " religious exemption letter he could use and

have notarized and/or signed by an attorney?

~~ jacqui

Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:28:56 -0800

> From: " Sandy Mintz " <sandym@...>

> Subject: doctor in Arkansas

>

> Hi everybody. Louis needs a doctor in Arkansas who will write a medical

> exemption for his son. Does anyone know of one? (I'm recommending he

> contact Filenbaum re: religious exemptions). - Sandy

>

> From Louis:

>

> Sandy, thank you so much for your reply.I live in Arkansas. He is in day

> care

> and they are wanting his records. I checked Ark. law and it looks like I

> have

> two choices, Religious or medical. Do you know of a Church my family

> could

> join? He has had several shots so far and would get sick afterward. He

> had a

> kidney problem and I believe his immune system is already stressed. I

> believe

> if I could find the right Doctor or Church I would be ok.

> I would be glad to pay for your time, he is my only son and I believe

> these

> shots are harmful if you could lead me in the direction I need to go or

> introduce me to someone I would be greatly appreciate it.

> Thank You Louis

>

>

> Sandy from Alaska

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Not in the Arkansas case - they require to be a member of a church and then

they decide

Seee http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/exemptions.htm

I most instances you use the wording of the law and sign it (don't need an

attorney), but this law is different.

(NOT a generic letter ever)

Sheri

At 06:55 AM 07/07/2002 -0400, you wrote:

>Sandy - isn't there a " generic " religious exemption letter he could use and

>have notarized and/or signed by an attorney?

>

>~~ jacqui

>

>

> Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:28:56 -0800

>> From: " Sandy Mintz " <sandym@...>

>> Subject: doctor in Arkansas

>>

>> Hi everybody. Louis needs a doctor in Arkansas who will write a medical

>> exemption for his son. Does anyone know of one? (I'm recommending he

>> contact Filenbaum re: religious exemptions). - Sandy

>>

>> From Louis:

>>

>> Sandy, thank you so much for your reply.I live in Arkansas. He is in day

>> care

>> and they are wanting his records. I checked Ark. law and it looks like I

>> have

>> two choices, Religious or medical. Do you know of a Church my family

>> could

>> join? He has had several shots so far and would get sick afterward. He

>> had a

>> kidney problem and I believe his immune system is already stressed. I

>> believe

>> if I could find the right Doctor or Church I would be ok.

>> I would be glad to pay for your time, he is my only son and I believe

>> these

>> shots are harmful if you could lead me in the direction I need to go or

>> introduce me to someone I would be greatly appreciate it.

>> Thank You Louis

>>

>>

>> Sandy from Alaska

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