Rhogam

[Guest guest]

Alison,

I`m assuming that rhogam is what is

called anti-D over here. Anti-D is an

injection given to all Rh neg mothers

after their babies are born here and is

prepared from blood. There has been

a huge scandal here over the past few

years as many women were infected

with hepatitis C, and some have died

as a direct result of contamination of

this product. There are still inquiries

going on here due to the fact that the

Blood Board and the Health Dept.

covered up the contamination.

Joyce in Ireland.

[Guest guest]

Joyce,

Oh wow! Really? I go to my CNM tomorrow... I'll talk to her about that

as well as ask for the package insert of the rhogam shots that they have;

since they're supposed to be mercury-free.

Do you happen to have links referring to that scandal? I'll do a search

and look for it as well

Thanks alot, Joyce!

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On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 02:33:42 +0100 (IST) jp20@... writes:

> Alison,

>

> I`m assuming that rhogam is what is

> called anti-D over here. Anti-D is an

> injection given to all Rh neg mothers

> after their babies are born here and is

> prepared from blood. There has been

> a huge scandal here over the past few

> years as many women were infected

> with hepatitis C, and some have died

> as a direct result of contamination of

> this product. There are still inquiries

> going on here due to the fact that the

> Blood Board and the Health Dept.

> covered up the contamination.

>

> Joyce in Ireland.

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[Guest guest]

Alison,

I`ve sent you a couple of links privately

as I`m on a netbox that plugs into the

TV and can`t send links to .

AntiD and rhogam are the same thing

just different names in different

countries. They are prepared from

human blood so I assume they are

open to viral contamination. Even with

the best screening there`s always new

viruses, but I`m no expert.

Joyce in Ireland

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzanne

Lots in the archives of this list as it comes up from time to time

vaccinations/messages

I also will send you soem stuff

At 04:01 PM 02/23/2004 -0500, you wrote:

>Okay, I have a question for anyone who can help me with this. I am RH

negative. I have had antepartum rhogam with all of my pregnancies because

even my anti vax chiropractor told me thta the benefits outweighed the

risks. I searched and searched for info on rhogam and what the real chance

(my husband is rh +) would be of becomming sensitized. I know it is very

low but the doctors scare you with the horror stories about a subsequent

pregnancy and the ramifications that that baby would have to face if you

were sensitized. I did read a baby from Jeanine Pavariti Baker but it

didn't really help with my decision. I just couldn't find any good info

out there on rhogam so I chose one with no thimerosol. I am sick that my

first 3 were probably exposed to mercury and I didn't know but I am also

sick that I could be exposed to a host of viruses from the blood from the

donors they used to make the rhogam. I chose a homebirth because there was

none of the things that predispose you to rh sensitization like early

clamping of the cord and tugging and pulling on the placenta. We just let

it birth itself like it should be. Does anyone out there have anything

helpful in making the decision about rhogam? I know if I had any more

children I will not have the rhogam no matter what, but would like input if

anyone has any.

>Suzanne

>Ohio

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

http://www.vaccinetruth.org/rhogam.htm

Rhogam and Pregnancy Stealth Mercury Assault

By C. Marini, D.C., PhC

There have been far too many moms at my seminars the last 3 months reacting with

alarm, surprise and anger to my cautioning them regarding giving Rhogam during

pregnancy. As you can guess, these moms received the rhogam injections during

their pregnancy and are now caring for neurologically injured children. They

were never aware that these shots could be harmful to their fetus. It is

frightening to contemplate how many mothers are getting these shots while

pregnant without realizing the potential for fetal neurological damage. What's

the deal?

Rhogam is a human gamma globulin (antibodies) directed against the Rh positive

factor of blood. It is given to Rh negative mothers who give birth to Rh

positive babies. The shot is designed to prevent these moms from becoming

sensitized to the baby, rh+ blood. Once the mom becomes sensitized to this rh

factor, there is the possibility of mom's immune system destroying the red blood

cells of her next child. Historically, babies born after mom's immune system

destroyed their blood cells acquire hemolytic disease of the newborn (HDN). 1

These babies require exchange transfusions after they are born. Such

transfusions can now be done in utero.

To prevent rh- moms from becoming sensitized to baby rh+ blood. Rhogam is

usually given within 72 hours after the birth of the rh+ baby. 2 There is a

likelihood of baby blood, only 15 ml is needed, mixing with mom's blood during

the birth process when the placental membrane breakdown. During pregnancy there

is no mixing of mother's blood with baby blood. Giving mom rhogam after the

baby's birth is sufficient to reduce the risk of HDN in her next child to about

1-2%. Rhogam is also indicated if the mom has an abortion, either natural or

induced, or has abdominal trauma or an amniocentesis. Giving rhogam during

pregnancy can reduce the risk of HDN by less than 1%. 2 It is doubtful that the

slight benefit acquired by giving rhogam during pregnancy outweighs the risks to

the fetus from the injection.

So what is the problem with giving the rhogam during pregnancy? The standard

rhogam preparations contain the mercury compound, thimerosal. We commonly link

this preservative with vaccines. Rhogam is a type of vaccine but not a vaccine

directed against an infectious disease. The PDR cautions that the use of rhogam

during pregnancy can have adverse effects on the fetus, 2. The high mercury

content of the rhogam preparation can have serious neurological consequences on

the developing fetus. Hair analysis of unvaccinated children born from mom's

injected with rhogam demonstrate the presence of mercury. It is essential that

these babies seek appropriate medical care to chelate and remove this mercury as

soon as possible. How many babies have suffered permanent damage due to mercury

toxicity from this desire to reduce the risk of HDN by less than 1% by injecting

pregnant mothers?

How do we avoid damaging these children? First, mom's should question the

rationale for injecting them while pregnant. Second, if rhogam administration

during pregnancy is absolutely necessary then mom's should demand mercury free

rhogam. Many moms report to me that their physicians blow them off when

confronted with the request for mercury free rhogam or say that such a product

is not yet available. The reality is that mercury-free rhogam is available in

this country from Bayer Pharmaceuticals under their product name of BayRoh-D.

This mercury free product has been available sine 1996. Their number is

800-468-0894.

References available at:

www.icpa4kids.com/chiropractic_newsletter_references.htm

____________________________

I don't have compiled information on Rhogam......I do know that they started

using Rhogam during pregnancy in the late 1980s. Before that, it was give

IMMEDIATELY after birth. Many women get multiple Rhogam shots now DURING

pregnancy, without a second thought from their OB. Until about 2001, each Rhogam

shot had 25mgm of mercury in it.....horrid for the rapidly growing nervous

system of the fetus!! Cave, MD told me that she did a survey of

patients in her office....62% of autistic kids had Rh- moms....only 3% had Rh+

moms.....and she said that those kids were more difficult to treat (probably

more true neurological damage that occurred during embryological

development--that would be my " guess " )

Dr Sherri

-------Kimberley Medlin---------

ChristianityandVaccinations_AZvac-lib/

DiseasesandVaccinationsDatabase/

RHOGAM

Okay, I have a question for anyone who can help me with this. I am RH

negative. I have had antepartum rhogam with all of my pregnancies because even

my anti vax chiropractor told me thta the benefits outweighed the risks. I

searched and searched for info on rhogam and what the real chance (my husband is

rh +) would be of becomming sensitized. I know it is very low but the doctors

scare you with the horror stories about a subsequent pregnancy and the

ramifications that that baby would have to face if you were sensitized. I did

read a baby from Jeanine Pavariti Baker but it didn't really help with my

decision. I just couldn't find any good info out there on rhogam so I chose one

with no thimerosol. I am sick that my first 3 were probably exposed to mercury

and I didn't know but I am also sick that I could be exposed to a host of

viruses from the blood from the donors they used to make the rhogam. I chose a

homebirth because there was none of the things that predispose you to rh

sensitization like early clamping of the cord and tugging and pulling on the

placenta. We just let it birth itself like it should be. Does anyone out there

have anything helpful in making the decision about rhogam? I know if I had any

more children I will not have the rhogam no matter what, but would like input if

anyone has any.

Suzanne

Ohio

[Guest guest]

<<Need more folks to take part in the Rhogam survey if you were given

it. Thanks to the few that already have! I will have the outcome

available once I get more responses.>>

I wasn't given a survey, but have received that shot 6 times. Can I

complete one?

Ohio

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and Shayna, born 6/1/00.

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[Guest guest]

RE: Rhogam

<<Need more folks to take part in the Rhogam survey if you were given

it. Thanks to the few that already have! I will have the outcome

available once I get more responses.>>

I wasn't given a survey, but have received that shot 6 times. Can I

complete one?

....Sorry it's taking me a while to get to you...did I ever send you

the survey? If not, go to DiseasesandVaccinationsDatabase As

soon as you sign on, you'll get a survey to fill out...along with four (4)

others.

Kimberley

[Guest guest]

<<<<I had the Rhogam the first pregnacy, wished I

hadn't.

Funny, the first doctor was all for these things,

Rhogam,

sonograms, lots of them, and ohhh...what is that

test for

women over 30, needled through the belly to the

fluid around the baby? Then

the second doctor wanted NONE of that. My

insurance was changed, wished I

went to the second one first. But my first child

had problems all along

from all that stuff. Stupid me went along with

some of it, including the

Rhogam.

So, I was scared into the Rhogam the first time,

and the second doctor said,

" you don't need it " ... SO I was confused about

the whole thing, still am,

why I NEEDED it then not. When I was pregnant it

was easy to scare me into,

" for the baby " speech. *sigh*

Western NY>>>>

I think the key here is the change in your

insurance?? Did your new insurance not cover all

these procedures? I see this all the time with my

patients. All normal pregnancies, but some are

having all kinds of stuff done to them and the

others aren't. I'm sure it's the difference in

their insurance coverage. Medicaid, especially is

a very good one to have because they don't pay for

much of anything. I find it interesting too when

I ask what the test is for. I usually get the

response " because my doctors say I need it " .

Yeah, h/she needs it for the billing dept and

ultimately his/her new boat LOL The rhogam is

different from the others though. Or is it? I

know there's some controversy on it.

[Guest guest]

This information makes me sick at heart! I am also Rh negative. With my

first son, I had one Rhogam shot during my pregnancy and another immediately

after birth. This son, , now age 10, has high-functioning autism.

With my second son, I received at least one Rhogam shot during my pregnancy

and another after he was born. This little guy, , who will be 8 in May,

has severe autism. I breastfed 18 months and for over 2 years.

Add to that the amalgam fillings and their mercury-loaded vaccines, it's no

wonder they are damaged!

Thanks to the information on this list, we are seeing a DAN doctor in June

to begin testing and chelation.

Thank you, Mark, and other researchers who are working so hard on this! If

you need families to participate in a replication study, please let me know!

Caldwell

Folsom, CA

Parent to , age 10, HFA, and , almost 8, severe autism

Re: Rhogam

> In our article (Holmes, Blaxill and Haley) on baby hair, out of the

> sample of mothers with autistic children, 43 out of 94 (46%) were Rh

> negative. This was surprisingly high and much higher than the rate in

> the controls, 4 out of 45 (9%). It's possible we had some kind of

> sample bias, but it is certainly a simple idea to try to replicate

> this directly and we have been working with a group of

> clinicians/researchers to do just that. One other study found an

> elevated rate of Rh negative moms, but a lower rate for autistic and

> control moms(12% vs 3%, respectively). We've also heard anecdotally

> from some experienced clinicians that the 46% rate may be unusually

> high. But clinical experience might have population biases as well.

> All the more reason to do a controlled study.

>

> Just like the CA study idea, these kinds of epi studies all just take

> time and money. Just what the IOM said this theory doesn't deserve.

>

>

>> I am curious. Perhaps Mark Blaxill or Lynn Redwood could chime in

>> on this. My wife is RH negative and I'm certain she received at

>> least 1 Rhogam shot during gestation with our autistic son. I have

>> read that in Amy Holmes's practice she discovered that around 46%

> of

>> the mom's with an ASD child were RH negative. The prevelance in

> our

>> society of RH negativity runs at around 10-15% according to Dr.

>> Holmes. If this is true I would think that this would be a fairly

>> easy, inexpensive and powerful study to do. Are you aware of any

>> epidemiological study being conducted in this area?

>>

>> My particular reason for interest in this area is that my son's

>> pediatrician was a very early adopter of thimerasol free vaccines.

>> He only received one thimerasol containing shot and that was at two

>> months of age. This shot contained 12.5 mcg of mercury. The only

>> other vaccine exposure to mercury he would have received would have

>> been Rhogam at 28 weeks of gestation.

>>

>> In my son's case this might make sense because I believe he

>> exhibited many autistic characteristics right out of the chute i.e.

>> low apgar, poor infant hearing test, fussiness etc.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

(One more note... in case anyone has any doubt, it's me who has the amalgam

fillings! I'm in the process of getting them removed by a dentist who also

has a son with autism!)

Re: Rhogam

>

>

>> In our article (Holmes, Blaxill and Haley) on baby hair, out of the

>> sample of mothers with autistic children, 43 out of 94 (46%) were Rh

>> negative. This was surprisingly high and much higher than the rate in

>> the controls, 4 out of 45 (9%). It's possible we had some kind of

>> sample bias, but it is certainly a simple idea to try to replicate

>> this directly and we have been working with a group of

>> clinicians/researchers to do just that. One other study found an

>> elevated rate of Rh negative moms, but a lower rate for autistic and

>> control moms(12% vs 3%, respectively). We've also heard anecdotally

>> from some experienced clinicians that the 46% rate may be unusually

>> high. But clinical experience might have population biases as well.

>> All the more reason to do a controlled study.

>>

>> Just like the CA study idea, these kinds of epi studies all just take

>> time and money. Just what the IOM said this theory doesn't deserve.

>>

>>

>>> I am curious. Perhaps Mark Blaxill or Lynn Redwood could chime in

>>> on this. My wife is RH negative and I'm certain she received at

>>> least 1 Rhogam shot during gestation with our autistic son. I have

>>> read that in Amy Holmes's practice she discovered that around 46%

>> of

>>> the mom's with an ASD child were RH negative. The prevelance in

>> our

>>> society of RH negativity runs at around 10-15% according to Dr.

>>> Holmes. If this is true I would think that this would be a fairly

>>> easy, inexpensive and powerful study to do. Are you aware of any

>>> epidemiological study being conducted in this area?

>>>

>>> My particular reason for interest in this area is that my son's

>>> pediatrician was a very early adopter of thimerasol free vaccines.

>>> He only received one thimerasol containing shot and that was at two

>>> months of age. This shot contained 12.5 mcg of mercury. The only

>>> other vaccine exposure to mercury he would have received would have

>>> been Rhogam at 28 weeks of gestation.

>>>

>>> In my son's case this might make sense because I believe he

>>> exhibited many autistic characteristics right out of the chute i.e.

>>> low apgar, poor infant hearing test, fussiness etc.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

I don't even know if I spelled it right. I know so much has been posted about

rhogam in the past, but I never paid much attention as it didn't pertain to me

or anyone I know; too much else to read. Yesterday my chiropractor's new bride

at 7mos pregnant shared with me that she started rhogam in Oct because of blood

type differences between her and the fetus that had mixed. She was aware of

mercury content and is very frightened about threatened possible complications

with the baby. Please post something pertinent to her current plight that I can

email her for knowledge and comfort. The new bride is in her early forties.

TIA (now that I know what that means)

Anita

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At 01:13 PM 12/11/2005 -0800, you wrote:

> Hi all,

> I don't even know if I spelled it right. I know so much has been posted

about rhogam in the past, but I never paid much attention as it didn't

pertain to me or anyone I know; too much else to read. Yesterday my

chiropractor's new bride at 7mos pregnant shared with me that she started

rhogam in Oct because of blood type differences between her and the fetus

that had mixed. She was aware of mercury content and is very frightened

about threatened possible complications with the baby. Please post

something pertinent to her current plight that I can email her for

knowledge and comfort. The new bride is in her early forties.

> TIA (now that I know what that means)

> Anita

>

Oh dear, I know of nothing for comfort.

Some rhogam doesn't have mercury any more, but many do.

Not much she can do now.

What happened that their blood mixed? Or did they just scare her that it

might as they do with all.

In Europe do NOT give during pregancy, only after delivery.

I'll post again, but it is not good comforting news.

Sheri>

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I'm pretty sure Rhogam is the treatment my best friend was telling me

about when I visited her recently in the UK. She is a midwife, VERY

pro nature and doesn't recomend it - although she sighted other

reasons than the mercury. If she wasn't so busy right now I'd ring to

refesh my memory!

I found this site anyway which looks interesting.

http://www.lacarte.org/health/rhogam/

~ Jowanna.

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> >She said she didn't find out about blood mixing until after the

> >amniosentisis(spelling?). Maybe the test had something to do with

it, I don't

> >know but I will ask her when I go for my next adjustment. They are

not

> >vaccinating, but they are succumbing to such tests and rhogam.

They are

> half way

> >there but have far to go and like you said.....it's too late now

with the

> >rhogam. Thanks for all you send.

> >Anita

>

> so they are getting many doses?

>

> One should be enough for 'their' theory. MAKES me sick

> Sheri

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[Guest guest]

How do they even know the blood type of the un-born baby?

That sounds REALLY strange to me.

I don't understand, how did the blood MIX? She should be in hospital on

bed-rest!

I'm O neg, and hubby O pos - got Rhogam with my second child - cause the doctor

told me to!

Third child I didn't either during or after, and she is my first O Pos. baby - I

still haven't been tested to see if I have the Anitbodies in my blood - not

planning any other kids, and her birth was a gentle birth at home!

Chelly

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Cloth Training pants & Pull-ups.

RE: Rhogam

Hi all,

I don't even know if I spelled it right. I know so much has been posted

about rhogam in the past, but I never paid much attention as it didn't pertain

to me or anyone I know; too much else to read. Yesterday my chiropractor's new

bride at 7mos pregnant shared with me that she started rhogam in Oct because of

blood type differences between her and the fetus that had mixed. She was aware

of mercury content and is very frightened about threatened possible

complications with the baby. Please post something pertinent to her current

plight that I can email her for knowledge and comfort. The new bride is in her

early forties.

TIA (now that I know what that means)

Anita

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[Guest guest]

I met the Geiers at the last DAN! Conference. They told me that the

Rhogam shots no longer have thimerosal in them, but we told them of a

hospital that still had some on the shelves only a few months before.

So, I would check the insert to verify this is the case, and if anyone

finds any on the shelves please contact me and I will contact them.

They said that they want to know if anyone is still finding it, and

what hospitals still have these shots on their shelves.

>

> Does anyone know if the RhoGam shot still contains Thimerosal? I

know that Lyn Redwood said that she had them while pregnant with Will

and they had mercury in them then. My little sis is pregnant and the

doctor suggested today that she get the shot when she is at 4 months

or so because of her blood type. I told her that I would check but I

thought that it still had mercury in it. If so, is there a mercury

free one that she could order?

> Thanks in advance!

>

>

> H.

> www.putchildrenfirst.org

> If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this

mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and

nothing shall be impossible unto you.

>

[Guest guest]

is this her first pregnsancy? If so, she does not needf it.

Is her husband Rh neG? (13% of population).IF SO, SHE DOES NOT NEED IT.

HHF

RhoGam

Does anyone know if the RhoGam shot still contains Thimerosal? I know that Lyn Redwood said that she had them while pregnant with Will and they had mercury in them then. My little sis is pregnant and the doctor suggested today that she get the shot when she is at 4 months or so because of her blood type. I told her that I would check but I thought that it still had mercury in it. If so, is there a mercury free one that she could order?Thanks in advance! H. www.putchildrenfirst.orgIf ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

[Guest guest]

When I was last pregnant (almost 2 years ago...) I researched the

rhoGAM shots and found that they all claimed they did not contain

thimerosal. I finally chose one (can't remebmer the

company...sorry) Contacted them and asked if it was thimerosal

free...was told yes. Requested the same info from their legal dept.

And DID in fact receive confirmation from the legal dept. Alas,

still scared of it and did not end up using it (If this is your last

child you don't need it...its only to (theoretically!) prevent

POTENTIAL problems with future children. I also believe you can

request a titer check to see if its even necessary. Some women do

not even need it...just given it prophalactically.

Also make sure husband's blood type is positive...if he's negative

too she doesn't need it.

>

> Does anyone know if the RhoGam shot still contains Thimerosal? I

know that Lyn Redwood said that she had them while pregnant with Will

and they had mercury in them then. My little sis is pregnant and the

doctor suggested today that she get the shot when she is at 4 months

or so because of her blood type. I told her that I would check but I

thought that it still had mercury in it. If so, is there a mercury

free one that she could order?

> Thanks in advance!

>

>

> H.

> www.putchildrenfirst.org

> If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto

this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and

nothing shall be impossible unto you.

>

[Guest guest]

To 's point...I would only use rhoGAM I had ordered myself. Not

one from a doctor's shelf or a hospital. Contact the company and

order yourself and get " thimerosal free " in writing. B/c as we all

know per Merk's little label-lying maneuver...reading the label is

just not enough anymore.

> >

> > Does anyone know if the RhoGam shot still contains Thimerosal? I

> know that Lyn Redwood said that she had them while pregnant with

Will

> and they had mercury in them then. My little sis is pregnant and

the

> doctor suggested today that she get the shot when she is at 4

months

> or so because of her blood type. I told her that I would check but

I

> thought that it still had mercury in it. If so, is there a mercury

> free one that she could order?

> > Thanks in advance!

> >

> >

> > H.

> > www.putchildrenfirst.org

> > If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto

this

> mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and

> nothing shall be impossible unto you.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I agree, that is a good idea to order it yourself if possible. Here

is an interesting note...

The hospital that I was referring to in Cleveland refused to

administer the shot that the woman ended up ordering herself. They

would not even accept delivery for the shot to their hospital. She

actually had to have another doctor she contacted drive to her house

and give her the shot.

I was told by the Geiers that all of these shots should have been

off of the shelves within the last year. They apparently took part

in some legal proceedings involving this.

> > >

> > > Does anyone know if the RhoGam shot still contains Thimerosal?

I

> > know that Lyn Redwood said that she had them while pregnant with

> Will

> > and they had mercury in them then. My little sis is pregnant and

> the

> > doctor suggested today that she get the shot when she is at 4

> months

> > or so because of her blood type. I told her that I would check

but

> I

> > thought that it still had mercury in it. If so, is there a

mercury

> > free one that she could order?

> > > Thanks in advance!

> > >

> > >

> > > H.

> > > www.putchildrenfirst.org

> > > If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say

unto

> this

> > mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and

> > nothing shall be impossible unto you.

> > >

> >

>

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At 10:41 PM 5/12/2006, " Herman Fudenberg " nitrf@... wrote:

>is this her first pregnsancy? If so, she does not need it.

>Is her husband Rh neG? (13% of population).IF SO, SHE DOES NOT NEED IT.

Speaking of rhogam and blood type, I remember one of the questions my wife

and I were asked when our son began getting services was whether my wife

was Rh negative. So this data has been collected but has anyone out there

been able to get statistics on whether autism and perhaps other disorders

are more common among Rh neg mothers??

Marty

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The Autism Research Institute may have some info on

how many ASD kids have Rhogam Moms. There was a DAN

conference about 2 or 3 years ago and one of the DAN

presenters asked all of the Rhogam moms to stand up. I

think 2/3 of the room stood. Soooooooo if only 10 of

all motheres get Rhogam shots but 70% of ASD kids have

rhogam moms. I guess rhogam in utero is not a good

thing.

susan

--- Marty Landman <marty@...> wrote:

> At 10:41 PM 5/12/2006, " Herman Fudenberg "

> nitrf@... wrote:

>

> >is this her first pregnsancy? If so, she does not

> need it.

> >Is her husband Rh neG? (13% of population).IF SO,

> SHE DOES NOT NEED IT.

>

> Speaking of rhogam and blood type, I remember one of

> the questions my wife

> and I were asked when our son began getting services

> was whether my wife

> was Rh negative. So this data has been collected but

> has anyone out there

> been able to get statistics on whether autism and

> perhaps other disorders

> are more common among Rh neg mothers??

>

> Marty

>

>

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Yes, there is a mercury free one that they can order. Check the CDC

website.

Barb

RhoGam

> Does anyone know if the RhoGam shot still contains Thimerosal? I know that

> Lyn Redwood said that she had them while pregnant with Will and they had

> mercury in them then. My little sis is pregnant and the doctor suggested

> today that she get the shot when she is at 4 months or so because of her

> blood type. I told her that I would check but I thought that it still had

> mercury in it. If so, is there a mercury free one that she could order?

> Thanks in advance!

>

>

> H.

> www.putchildrenfirst.org

> If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this

> mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing

> shall be impossible unto you.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Please tell that if her husband is Rh negative (probability 13 %) or if this is her first pregnancy she won't need Rhogam.

furthermore, the brain of the fetus at 4 months of gestation is undoubtedly much more susceptible to the mercury toxin than at birth, and the immune system even more so.

H. H.Fudenberg, M.D.,DDG.IOM<;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma,sans-serif'>

From: "jromkema" <jromkema@...>Reply-EOHarm To: <EOHarm >Subject: Re: RhoGamDate: Sat, 13 May 2006 09:26:21 -0500Yes, there is a mercury free one that they can order. Check the CDC website.Barb RhoGam> Does anyone know if the RhoGam shot still contains Thimerosal? I know that > Lyn Redwood said that she had them while pregnant with Will and they had > mercury in them then. My little sis is pregnant and the doctor suggested > today that she get the shot when she is at 4 months or so because of her > blood type. I told her that I would check but I thought that it still had > mercury in it. If so, is there a mercury free one that she could order?> Thanks in advance!>>> H. > www.putchildrenfirst.org> If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this > mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing > shall be impossible unto you.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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The percentage of Rh negative women who get rHOGAM IS UNKNOWN, AS IS THE PECENTAGE OF THOSE WHO GET IT WITH THEIR FIRST PREGNANCY. my data, based on offspring of RH NEG WOMEN, 2 OR MORE PREGNNCIES SUGGESTS AUTISM is 8-10 fold more common in their kids than in kids of Rh negativE MOTHERS WHO DID NOT RECEIVER rHOGAM; AND IF IT STARTS AFTER

MMR at 15 months the autism is very severe. Same with kids who received

hepB VACCINE CONTAINING MERCURY AT BIRTH.

H. H.Fudenberg, M.D.,DDG.IOM

Inman, SC 29349

(864) 592 8076

Website nitrf.org

From: Marty Landman <marty@...>Reply-EOHarm To: EOHarm Subject: Re: RhoGamDate: Sat, 13 May 2006 09:16:49 -0400At 10:41 PM 5/12/2006, "Herman Fudenberg" nitrf@... wrote:>is this her first pregnsancy? If so, she does not need it.>Is her husband Rh neG? (13% of population).IF SO, SHE DOES NOT NEED IT.Speaking of rhogam and blood type, I remember one of the questions my wife and I were asked when our son began getting services was whether my wife was Rh negative. So this data has been collected but has anyone out there been able to get statistics on whether autism and perhaps other disorders are more common among Rh neg mothers??Marty-- Mainstreaming Experiences & StrategiesMainstreamingDisabledKids/Asperger's/High Functioning Autism Homeschooler's discussion listas-hfa-homeschool/

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for FUND

MY OWN DATA INDICATE THAT THE KIDS OF Rh NEG WOMAN WHO RECEIVE Rhogam are 8-10 fold more

likely to get autism, usually after MMR,THAN KIDS OF Rh NEG WOMAN WHO DON'T RECEIVE Rhogam, and the autism is far more severe-e.g, no words at all.

H. H.Fudenberg, M.D.,DDG.IOM

Inman, SC 29349

(864) 592 8076

Website nitrf.org

From: Fund <susan_fund@...>Reply-EOHarm To: EOHarm Subject: Re: Re: RhoGamDate: Sat, 13 May 2006 06:36:55 -0700 (PDT)The Autism Research Institute may have some info onhow many ASD kids have Rhogam Moms. There was a DANconference about 2 or 3 years ago and one of the DANpresenters asked all of the Rhogam moms to stand up. Ithink 2/3 of the room stood. Soooooooo if only 10 ofall motheres get Rhogam shots but 70% of ASD kids haverhogam moms. I guess rhogam in utero is not a goodthing.susan--- Marty Landman <marty@...> wrote:> At 10:41 PM 5/12/2006, "Herman Fudenberg"> nitrf@... wrote:> > >is this her first pregnsancy? If so, she does not> need it.> >Is her husband Rh neG? (13% of population).IF SO,> SHE DOES NOT NEED IT.> > Speaking of rhogam and blood type, I remember one of> the questions my wife > and I were asked when our son began getting services> was whether my wife > was Rh negative. So this data has been collected but> has anyone out there > been able to get statistics on whether autism and> perhaps other disorders > are more common among Rh neg mothers??> > Marty> > > -- > Mainstreaming Experiences & Strategies>MainstreamingDisabledKids/> Asperger's/High Functioning Autism Homeschooler's> discussion list>as-hfa-homeschool/> > __________________________________________________