Guest guest Posted January 13, 2000 Report Share Posted January 13, 2000 I totally agree. I am Rh- and have 5 children. After each child my doctor tested the babies blood type and only gave me Rhogam if the baby was positive. He did not give it to me ever during pregnancy because he said there was not any or enough research on effects on the fetus and the risk of blood mixing during pregnancy was rare. Also it would only be effective if the blood mixed within a few days of the shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2000 Report Share Posted January 15, 2000 Hi, Just wanted to say, I'm RH neg. also, I ended up getting the Rho-gam, and wish I didn't because both of my children ended up being rh neg. also. I wonder if there are a lot of RH pos. babies born to RH neg. women? Most of the RH neg. women that I know, ended up having RH neg. babies. Do you know what's in the Rho-gam, or if there are neg. side effects from it? Melody Rhogam > From: Sherri O'Lonergan <sherri@...> > > > Just FYI, I am Rh negative too and when I was pregnant my midwife > talked with me about the Rhogam shot and the pros and cons. She said > that if I were (God forbid) in an accident or something where there was > a chance of my blood mixing with the babies that it would become very > critical. I decided not to get this shot for many reasons and never had > > any problems... and then discovered my baby was also a negative blood > type making it not necessary after birth either. > > Just my 2 cents... > > Sherri > > > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2000 Report Share Posted June 28, 2000 In a message dated 6/28/00 11:27:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, alison73@... writes: << but, I'll probably get one if the next one is positive like my firstborn is. I know a man who was born from a rh- mom... he's the 3rd child and is deaf because of his mom not having the rhogam shot... My sister who's A- had the shot after her first 2 kids but not after her 3rd... she probably will have one more and they say it doesn't affect the kids until the 3rd one... so I guess she can have 2 more without having problems... >> You know, you are making the best decisiions you can for yourself and your family. THey are hard. Sometimes it's harder for " people like us " because we questions things. Sometimes it's much easier for those who just go with the flow and do what they are " supposed " to do.I don't know what I would do if I was -. I probably would have it, seeing what I've read and so forth. I just went through a hard decision with Brady, deciding whether to give him the BayTet or not last week. I ended up after many phone calls, much research, and lots of crying to do it. I felt it wasn't as bad as teh DT or the DTaP, it was a blood product, which made the decision much, much harder but I did the best I could for my family and I at the time.You just have to weigh the situation and see how you would handle it. Everyone asks me about not vaccinating. They want to know how I would handle it if he came down with one of the diseases I could have vaccinated for. Well, knowing what I know, I would feel better about that than having a vaccine and possible losing my child or ending up with a severe reaction. In the case of the tetanus, the risk of the Globulin seemed worth it to me as opposed to the risk of not having it. It was a tough call. So, whatever you decide with the next what and the RhoGam, be confident in that it was at least a WELL thought out decision and you did what you felt was the best thing. www.diapers.bizland.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2000 Report Share Posted June 28, 2000 Just sharing a bit of news I am A- and it effects you after the first child not the third. a Mom of Brittany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2000 Report Share Posted June 28, 2000 I just wanted to say I know a lot of people in there early 30's that have never been vaccinated and they say when everyone else got sick they did not there immune system was more built because they did not get vaccinated. I am just trying to give everyone some hope. When I took my 2 month year old in for checkup doc asks do you know what the risks are of getting the diseases are?I said I will take that chance after my first child being damaged by her vaccines. a Mom of Brittany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2000 Report Share Posted June 28, 2000 I'm RH-... I have O- blood and I really would like to have a few more kids... so, I did get the shot... actually, I got it around 26 weeks for some reason... I should not have... it's stupid to get one then... but, I hadn't read up on it and they used that scare tactic with me... next child I won't have that one midway, but, I'll probably get one if the next one is positive like my firstborn is. I know a man who was born from a rh- mom... he's the 3rd child and is deaf because of his mom not having the rhogam shot... My sister who's A- had the shot after her first 2 kids but not after her 3rd... she probably will have one more and they say it doesn't affect the kids until the 3rd one... so I guess she can have 2 more without having problems... Alison AP SaHMommie to beautiful, breastfed, non-vax, co-sleeping Calista, born 2-13-99. Homepage: http://alison73.homepage.com new pics of Calista: http://alison73.homepage.com/calista15mth.html On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:01:40 -0700 " Larsen, LM " <midwife1@...> writes: > OOOPppsss... I didn't mean to say I don't reccomend Rhogam. I should > have > said it's up to the parents but I'm real comfortable with it. > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2000 Report Share Posted June 28, 2000 Yes, I know that, but the effects aren't severe until the 3rd On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:37:57 EDT doshiwoo297@... writes: > Just sharing a bit of news I am A- and it effects you after the first > child > not the third. > a Mom of Brittany > Alison AP SaHMommie to beautiful, breastfed, non-vax, co-sleeping Calista, born 2-13-99. Homepage: http://alison73.homepage.com new pics of Calista: http://alison73.homepage.com/calista15mth.html ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 Certainly you do not need Rhogam if you are rh- and so is the father of the child. Your midwife/ob might want " proof " of this, but it's worth the hassle if this is the case for you (it is for me!) Also, I would ask your midwife if you are absolutely *certain* that this is your last child if you really need it or not. I think it is mostly a worry for future children if the blood mixes. - rh- and Rhogam-free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 I just dont understand why you cant take the " administrator " of a toxic substance to court and charge that person with " Common assault " . Rhogam >Rhogam contains ~75 ug's of mercury, with the adult shot, along with >other questionable ingredients. > >How can anyone think that mercury is safe for an unborn child? I >wouldn't even get my hair permed when I was pregnant, yet I allowed >injection of organic mercury into my bloodstream! I didn't even ask what >the ingredients of Rhogam were. I trusted that the shot was appropriate, >and that I had no choice. > >Bayer company is the only one that offers a mercury free Rhogam shot. >It's called BayRho. If I ever have another child, I'm using that. >Another product called RhoPhylac is in the process of being approved by >the FDA, although it may take another 2 years. > -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 did you really pay $10,000 for the birth? is that standard? Kathy On,Can ----- Original Message ----- From: Ives <mives@...> I didn't get it, because at the time I had no insurance and there was no way I could pay $800 for one shot, plus the $10,000 for the birth! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 RE: Rhogam > Also, I would ask your midwife if you are absolutely *certain* that this is > your last child if you really need it or not. I think it is mostly a worry > for future children if the blood mixes. > > - > rh- and Rhogam-free! > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 >>did you really pay $10,000 for the birth? is that standard? Kathy On,Can<< Thats what the bill came to, but I got insurance 2 months before the birth, and they covered it <whew!> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 WOW! I guess $2500 for prenatal and birthing help(midwife) is pretty cheap! Laurie did you really pay $10,000 for the birth? is that standard? Kathy On,Can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 The reason I suspect something regarding RhoGam is because I started my cycle very early, ten years, and I've always had trouble with my cycles (not regular and not ovulating). None of my physicians have been able to tell me why I seem to be in early menopause (I'm 42). No cysts, no cancer, nothing....just no periods. More than a few have asked me if I'm a chronic exerciser. I'm a gym junkie, I'll admit, but I certainly don't over exercise. I go to the gym about four times a week. But I get asked that all the time. I suspect that whatever my Mother was given when she was pregnant with me MAY have something to do with this. I'm just wondering if there was anything when I was in utero that affected my hormonal balance. Yet, I was able to conceive very easily. I've had very few periods since I had my son; but my periods were never regular or normal, and my doctors haven't been able to figure out what's going on. Personally, I'm just glad to be rid of the darn thing, but I still want to know what's going on and why... Kim RhoGam > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 > He also says all his > patients who are rh- take it without any problems. Don't you just love that " herd " mentality. Blech! - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2002 Report Share Posted March 8, 2002 In France, when you are Rh - while the husband is Rh +, you just need to do a blood test every month ; no mandatory Rhogam !!!! But, if there is a problem detected by the blood test, then, of course, there is action. ===== Cécile, wife to , mother of Nathalie(12), Sandrine(8.5), Karine(6.5) and andre(forever 3.5) dx 02/00 NBIV N-MYC amplified. Left us on June 14th, 2001 andre sent us two new babies due next Spring .... e-mail : cecilecogez@... andre's story : http://www.caringbridge.com/page/alexandre __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2002 Report Share Posted March 8, 2002 It really doesn't matter at this point - you are seeing the homeopath and he will sort it out - one will never know for sure. Rhogam probably had mercury in it then as it does now. They've used mercury since earlier in the 20th century. Then followed by all the vaccines you got with mercury. And who knows what else. Hahnemann, discover of homeopathy says we can never know the CAUSE of anything and doctors waste their time trying to do that or think ing they know. Paragraph (Aphorism) 1 (footnotes 1) " The physician's calling is not to concoct so-called systems from empty conceits and hypotheses concerning the inner wesen (my note-kind of like nature or knowing) of the life process and the origins of disease in the invisible interior of the organism (on which so many physicians mongering for fame have hitherto wasted their time and energy). The physicians calling is NOT TO MAKE COUNTLESS ATTEMPTS at explanation regarding disease appearances and their proximate cause (WHICH MUST EVER REMAIN CONCEALED) holding forth in unintelligable words or abstract and pompous expressions in order to appear very learned and astonish the ignorant, while a sick world sighs in vain for help. Of such learned fanaticism (to which the name 'theoretical medicinal art' is given, and for which special professorships are instituted) WE HAVE HAD QUITE ENOUGH. It is high time for all those who call themselves physicians, once and for all, to STOP DECEIVING SUFFERING HUMANITY with idle talk, and to 'begin' now to act, that is to really help and to cure. (CAPS my own) At 05:41 PM 03/07/2002 -0800, you wrote: >The reason I suspect something regarding RhoGam is because I started my >cycle very early, ten years, and I've always had trouble with my cycles (not >regular and not ovulating). None of my physicians have been able to tell me >why I seem to be in early menopause (I'm 42). No cysts, no cancer, -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2002 Report Share Posted March 8, 2002 wow, I'm in shock who can afford to have babies?? not many, I'd think Kathy > >>did you really pay $10,000 for the birth? is that standard? > Kathy > On,Can<< > > Thats what the bill came to, but I got insurance 2 months before the birth, and they covered it <whew!> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2002 Report Share Posted March 8, 2002 I started early, too. 7th grade, what is that, 12years old? I was never irregular, though. Always very regular, predictable cycles, however it took me 4 years of trying to get pg. with my first. And although we weren't trying, it was 4 years again when I got pg. with my 2nd, but we weren't trying real hard not to, either, KWIM? I don't know about menopause yet, my son is 6 months and bf, so no cycles back yet (yeah!). I always had MAJOR PMS though. Really bad, and awful painful cramps as a kid. I would be debilitated on the couch. My mother didn't believe me, thought I was being a big baby until my sister had the same problems. So bad that I would get the shakes, sweats, have diarrhea, awful back pain. BTW, I also had back labor. blech! Doesn't sound like I'm much help to your theory. Sorry! >>The reason I suspect something regarding RhoGam is because I started my cycle very early, ten years, and I've always had trouble with my cycles (not regular and not ovulating). None of my physicians have been able to tell me why I seem to be in early menopause (I'm 42). No cysts, no cancer, nothing....just no periods. More than a few have asked me if I'm a chronic exerciser. I'm a gym junkie, I'll admit, but I certainly don't over exercise. I go to the gym about four times a week. But I get asked that all the time. I suspect that whatever my Mother was given when she was pregnant with me MAY have something to do with this. I'm just wondering if there was anything when I was in utero that affected my hormonal balance. Yet, I was able to conceive very easily. I've had very few periods since I had my son; but my periods were never regular or normal, and my doctors haven't been able to figure out what's going on. Personally, I'm just glad to be rid of the darn thing, but I still want to know what's going on and why... Kim<< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2002 Report Share Posted March 8, 2002 Re: RhoGam > > , I had very severe cramps before my cycle started; bloatiness, headaches, I just felt awful. And this was starting with my very first cycle. I missed school because of it, and during my twenties, a lot of work. What can I say; I just always had " female " problems...I've been seeing physicians because of this for as long as I can remember...nothing's ever been pinpointed as the reason behind it all. I'm thankful I was able to conceive as easily as I did and am really grateful for my little boy. I just want to know why I stopped so early. Could just be " normal " for me; it's not unheard of... Kim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2002 Report Share Posted March 8, 2002 most likely your hormones are out of wack definitely bears looking into have you tried a raw food diet? carrot juice? Kathy > I had very severe cramps before my cycle started; bloatiness, headaches, I > just felt awful. And this was starting with my very first cycle. I missed > school because of it, and during my twenties, a lot of work. What can I > say; I just always had " female " problems...I've been seeing physicians > because of this for as long as I can remember...nothing's ever been > pinpointed as the reason behind it all. I'm thankful I was able to conceive > as easily as I did and am really grateful for my little boy. I just want to > know why I stopped so early. Could just be " normal " for me; it's not > unheard of... > > Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2002 Report Share Posted March 8, 2002 In a message dated 3/7/02 5:37:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, mlandes2@... writes: > WOW! I guess $2500 for prenatal and birthing help(midwife) is pretty cheap! > Laurie > > > did you really pay $10,000 for the birth? is that standard? > Kathy > On,Can > I was all set to have my boy in a birthing pool - with a midwife - would have cost $3500. Had to have a c-section, as the little guy was footling breech - cost over $10,000.00 - thank heavens for insurance. (I don't remember the entire bill - but it was over $7000 for the hosiptal stay alone - I stayed in a private room for three nights) Chelly San Diego, CA Mommy to Trenton 8/19/99 - No Shots! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2002 Report Share Posted March 8, 2002 kathy, yeah, i'm positive my hormones are out of whack, but my allopathic docs never knew how to correct the imbalance, or, maybe they didn't realize my hormonal level was out of whack, i don't know. fortunately, they never suggested synthetic hormones. a change in diet had never been mentioned. i eat a sensible diet...i eat a lot of fresh veggies and fruits, very little red meat, mostly white meat. i know from prior blood work that i need to stay away from white sugar, use honey when possible. i drink plenty of water, bottled only. but i've just been told today to try drinking only distilled water, as i can get my minerals in other ways. i'll be seeing our homeopath soon. i know he's considered one of the best; i'll just have to wait and see what he says... kim Re: Re: RhoGam > most likely your hormones are out of wack > definitely bears looking into > have you tried a raw food diet? carrot juice? > Kathy > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2002 Report Share Posted April 28, 2002 At 01:08 AM 04/28/2002 EDT, you wrote: >sheri, > >what do you know regarding the topic of rhogam and rh negative blood with >regards to pregnant women? i have O- and rcvd rhogam, 2 doses total, one >during last trimester and one after birth. i was not informed of any >associated risks nor was i given any insert to read. i would like to find out >if the injections are necessary or just harmful and what alternatives i can >take should i have another child with positive blood in the future! > >thanks! >stacy > > I have sent info to the list before and we had a good discussion Go to the archives vaccinations sign in and search in messages section for RhoGam I will send you what I have too it is debatable what is necessary Much of hte rhogam has mercury in it and that is a problem there are mercury-free brands Sheri -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2002 Report Share Posted April 29, 2002 Here is another site: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/2924/rh.html My dd Accalia's birth took place in a hospital under the care of an OB, and I had a shot during pregnancy but honestly can't recall having one afterwards. I'd have to look at my hospital records. This time around I'm having a homebirth with a midwife, and the baby's cord blood will be tested after his/her birth and if necessary I'll get a mecury-free RhoGam shot soon after. And actually, my back-up OB told me that it's not necessary to have it within 72 hours. You can wait up to a week. Amy in South Dakota Mama to Accalia (6/14/99) and lovey due 8/25/02 " In a free democracy like our own, we use words as arguments, not blows... If we can't convince our children with words, we will never convince them with violence. " - Swedish Parliamentary Minister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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