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you have very good argument!

From: Angelo <tommybad238@...>

Subject: (unknown)

Hepatitis C

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 10:08 PM

 

There have been quite a few things that have happened these past few years to

shake up the clinical studies. Like what you mentioned and many others.

Scientist taking kickbacks, lobbying for money, fixing results of clinical

trials etc. At least these things improve there security checks from here on

end.  My whole thing is desprete people will do most anything. And for those who

tried treatment and got very sick from it and it didn't work and have cirhosis

now many may have that deperation in them to surf the net and see all these

claims of accupunture for hep c and collidal silver, and various herbs etc. The

thing is most studyies on these items are done in petri dishes or animals. In

humans these things barely get absorbed if at all and people are spending there

hard earned money on this shit. The way our bodies metabolizes these supplements

or herbs renders most of them useless or turnes them into something else. They

don't tell you that on there

web sites though. Look at the debates with herbs. Do you buy the whole herb or

the extract. Which one gets absorbed better if it all. Do you include the root

in the extract or whole herb. How about the leaves which is the part you need

but they don't include that etc. Look at the blueberries thing that came out

that kills hep c. The problem is it's " Rabbit Eye " blueberys where there in

Southeast USA but nobody sells a rabbit eye extracts. Believe me I checked it

out. The research doesn't say how they took it either. Maybe they included

something with to help absorb it. Now someone will come along and say they have

rabbit eye extract for hep c and millions will buy it not knowing if it's really

rabbit eye blueberry extract or if it even gets absorbed. SAy 1 million persons

buy it at $20.00 a pop. This scum bag retires rich as hell and were still no

better and lighter in the wallet to

[Guest guest]

you have very good argument!

From: Angelo <tommybad238@...>

Subject: (unknown)

Hepatitis C

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 10:08 PM

 

There have been quite a few things that have happened these past few years to

shake up the clinical studies. Like what you mentioned and many others.

Scientist taking kickbacks, lobbying for money, fixing results of clinical

trials etc. At least these things improve there security checks from here on

end.  My whole thing is desprete people will do most anything. And for those who

tried treatment and got very sick from it and it didn't work and have cirhosis

now many may have that deperation in them to surf the net and see all these

claims of accupunture for hep c and collidal silver, and various herbs etc. The

thing is most studyies on these items are done in petri dishes or animals. In

humans these things barely get absorbed if at all and people are spending there

hard earned money on this shit. The way our bodies metabolizes these supplements

or herbs renders most of them useless or turnes them into something else. They

don't tell you that on there

web sites though. Look at the debates with herbs. Do you buy the whole herb or

the extract. Which one gets absorbed better if it all. Do you include the root

in the extract or whole herb. How about the leaves which is the part you need

but they don't include that etc. Look at the blueberries thing that came out

that kills hep c. The problem is it's " Rabbit Eye " blueberys where there in

Southeast USA but nobody sells a rabbit eye extracts. Believe me I checked it

out. The research doesn't say how they took it either. Maybe they included

something with to help absorb it. Now someone will come along and say they have

rabbit eye extract for hep c and millions will buy it not knowing if it's really

rabbit eye blueberry extract or if it even gets absorbed. SAy 1 million persons

buy it at $20.00 a pop. This scum bag retires rich as hell and were still no

better and lighter in the wallet to

[Guest guest]

you have very good argument!

From: Angelo <tommybad238@...>

Subject: (unknown)

Hepatitis C

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 10:08 PM

 

There have been quite a few things that have happened these past few years to

shake up the clinical studies. Like what you mentioned and many others.

Scientist taking kickbacks, lobbying for money, fixing results of clinical

trials etc. At least these things improve there security checks from here on

end.  My whole thing is desprete people will do most anything. And for those who

tried treatment and got very sick from it and it didn't work and have cirhosis

now many may have that deperation in them to surf the net and see all these

claims of accupunture for hep c and collidal silver, and various herbs etc. The

thing is most studyies on these items are done in petri dishes or animals. In

humans these things barely get absorbed if at all and people are spending there

hard earned money on this shit. The way our bodies metabolizes these supplements

or herbs renders most of them useless or turnes them into something else. They

don't tell you that on there

web sites though. Look at the debates with herbs. Do you buy the whole herb or

the extract. Which one gets absorbed better if it all. Do you include the root

in the extract or whole herb. How about the leaves which is the part you need

but they don't include that etc. Look at the blueberries thing that came out

that kills hep c. The problem is it's " Rabbit Eye " blueberys where there in

Southeast USA but nobody sells a rabbit eye extracts. Believe me I checked it

out. The research doesn't say how they took it either. Maybe they included

something with to help absorb it. Now someone will come along and say they have

rabbit eye extract for hep c and millions will buy it not knowing if it's really

rabbit eye blueberry extract or if it even gets absorbed. SAy 1 million persons

buy it at $20.00 a pop. This scum bag retires rich as hell and were still no

better and lighter in the wallet to

[Guest guest]

everything is trial and error,life itself is

From: Angelo <tommybad238@...>

Subject: (unknown)

Hepatitis C

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 10:08 PM

 

There have been quite a few things that have happened these past few years to

shake up the clinical studies. Like what you mentioned and many others.

Scientist taking kickbacks, lobbying for money, fixing results of clinical

trials etc. At least these things improve there security checks from here on

end.  My whole thing is desprete people will do most anything. And for those who

tried treatment and got very sick from it and it didn't work and have cirhosis

now many may have that deperation in them to surf the net and see all these

claims of accupunture for hep c and collidal silver, and various herbs etc. The

thing is most studyies on these items are done in petri dishes or animals. In

humans these things barely get absorbed if at all and people are spending there

hard earned money on this shit. The way our bodies metabolizes these supplements

or herbs renders most of them useless or turnes them into something else. They

don't tell you that on there

web sites though. Look at the debates with herbs. Do you buy the whole herb or

the extract. Which one gets absorbed better if it all. Do you include the root

in the extract or whole herb. How about the leaves which is the part you need

but they don't include that etc. Look at the blueberries thing that came out

that kills hep c. The problem is it's " Rabbit Eye " blueberys where there in

Southeast USA but nobody sells a rabbit eye extracts. Believe me I checked it

out. The research doesn't say how they took it either. Maybe they included

something with to help absorb it. Now someone will come along and say they have

rabbit eye extract for hep c and millions will buy it not knowing if it's really

rabbit eye blueberry extract or if it even gets absorbed. SAy 1 million persons

buy it at $20.00 a pop. This scum bag retires rich as hell and were still no

better and lighter in the wallet to

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From: Angelo <tommybad238@...>

Subject: (unknown)

Hepatitis C

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 10:08 PM

=A0=20

There have been quite a few things that have happened these past few years =

to shake up the clinical studies. Like what you mentioned and many others. =

Scientist taking kickbacks, lobbying for money, fixing results of clinical =

trials etc. At least these things improve there security checks from here o=

n end.=A0=A0My whole thing is desprete people will do most anything. And fo=

r those who tried treatment and got very sick from it and it didn't work an=

d have cirhosis now many may have that deperation in them to surf the net a=

nd see all these claims of accupunture for hep c and collidal silver, and v=

arious herbs etc. The thing is most studyies on these items are done in pet=

ri dishes or animals. In humans these things barely get absorbed if at all =

and people are spending there hard earned money on this shit. The way our b=

odies metabolizes these supplements or herbs renders most of them useless o=

r turnes them into something else. They don't tell you that on there

web sites though. Look at the debates with herbs. Do you buy the whole herb=

or the extract. Which one gets absorbed better if it all. Do you include t=

he root in the extract or whole herb. How about the leaves which is the par=

t you need but they don't include that etc.=A0Look at the blueberries thing=

that came out that kills hep c. The problem is it's " Rabbit Eye " blueberys=

where there in Southeast USA but nobody sells a rabbit eye extracts. Belie=

ve me I checked it out. The research doesn't say how they took it either. M=

aybe they included something with to help absorb it. Now someone will come =

along and say they have rabbit eye extract for hep c and millions will buy =

it not knowing if it's really rabbit eye blueberry extract or if it even ge=

ts absorbed. SAy 1 million persons buy it at $20.00 a pop. This scum bag re=

tires rich as hell and were still no better and lighter in the wallet to

[Guest guest]

everything is trial and error,life itself is

From: Angelo <tommybad238@...>

Subject: (unknown)

Hepatitis C

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 10:08 PM

 

There have been quite a few things that have happened these past few years to

shake up the clinical studies. Like what you mentioned and many others.

Scientist taking kickbacks, lobbying for money, fixing results of clinical

trials etc. At least these things improve there security checks from here on

end.  My whole thing is desprete people will do most anything. And for those who

tried treatment and got very sick from it and it didn't work and have cirhosis

now many may have that deperation in them to surf the net and see all these

claims of accupunture for hep c and collidal silver, and various herbs etc. The

thing is most studyies on these items are done in petri dishes or animals. In

humans these things barely get absorbed if at all and people are spending there

hard earned money on this shit. The way our bodies metabolizes these supplements

or herbs renders most of them useless or turnes them into something else. They

don't tell you that on there

web sites though. Look at the debates with herbs. Do you buy the whole herb or

the extract. Which one gets absorbed better if it all. Do you include the root

in the extract or whole herb. How about the leaves which is the part you need

but they don't include that etc. Look at the blueberries thing that came out

that kills hep c. The problem is it's " Rabbit Eye " blueberys where there in

Southeast USA but nobody sells a rabbit eye extracts. Believe me I checked it

out. The research doesn't say how they took it either. Maybe they included

something with to help absorb it. Now someone will come along and say they have

rabbit eye extract for hep c and millions will buy it not knowing if it's really

rabbit eye blueberry extract or if it even gets absorbed. SAy 1 million persons

buy it at $20.00 a pop. This scum bag retires rich as hell and were still no

better and lighter in the wallet to

[Guest guest]

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From: Angelo <tommybad238@...>

Subject: (unknown)

Hepatitis C

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 10:08 PM

=A0=20

There have been quite a few things that have happened these past few years =

to shake up the clinical studies. Like what you mentioned and many others. =

Scientist taking kickbacks, lobbying for money, fixing results of clinical =

trials etc. At least these things improve there security checks from here o=

n end.=A0=A0My whole thing is desprete people will do most anything. And fo=

r those who tried treatment and got very sick from it and it didn't work an=

d have cirhosis now many may have that deperation in them to surf the net a=

nd see all these claims of accupunture for hep c and collidal silver, and v=

arious herbs etc. The thing is most studyies on these items are done in pet=

ri dishes or animals. In humans these things barely get absorbed if at all =

and people are spending there hard earned money on this shit. The way our b=

odies metabolizes these supplements or herbs renders most of them useless o=

r turnes them into something else. They don't tell you that on there

web sites though. Look at the debates with herbs. Do you buy the whole herb=

or the extract. Which one gets absorbed better if it all. Do you include t=

he root in the extract or whole herb. How about the leaves which is the par=

t you need but they don't include that etc.=A0Look at the blueberries thing=

that came out that kills hep c. The problem is it's " Rabbit Eye " blueberys=

where there in Southeast USA but nobody sells a rabbit eye extracts. Belie=

ve me I checked it out. The research doesn't say how they took it either. M=

aybe they included something with to help absorb it. Now someone will come =

along and say they have rabbit eye extract for hep c and millions will buy =

it not knowing if it's really rabbit eye blueberry extract or if it even ge=

ts absorbed. SAy 1 million persons buy it at $20.00 a pop. This scum bag re=

tires rich as hell and were still no better and lighter in the wallet to

[Guest guest]

everything is trial and error,life itself is

From: Angelo <tommybad238@...>

Subject: (unknown)

Hepatitis C

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 10:08 PM

 

There have been quite a few things that have happened these past few years to

shake up the clinical studies. Like what you mentioned and many others.

Scientist taking kickbacks, lobbying for money, fixing results of clinical

trials etc. At least these things improve there security checks from here on

end.  My whole thing is desprete people will do most anything. And for those who

tried treatment and got very sick from it and it didn't work and have cirhosis

now many may have that deperation in them to surf the net and see all these

claims of accupunture for hep c and collidal silver, and various herbs etc. The

thing is most studyies on these items are done in petri dishes or animals. In

humans these things barely get absorbed if at all and people are spending there

hard earned money on this shit. The way our bodies metabolizes these supplements

or herbs renders most of them useless or turnes them into something else. They

don't tell you that on there

web sites though. Look at the debates with herbs. Do you buy the whole herb or

the extract. Which one gets absorbed better if it all. Do you include the root

in the extract or whole herb. How about the leaves which is the part you need

but they don't include that etc. Look at the blueberries thing that came out

that kills hep c. The problem is it's " Rabbit Eye " blueberys where there in

Southeast USA but nobody sells a rabbit eye extracts. Believe me I checked it

out. The research doesn't say how they took it either. Maybe they included

something with to help absorb it. Now someone will come along and say they have

rabbit eye extract for hep c and millions will buy it not knowing if it's really

rabbit eye blueberry extract or if it even gets absorbed. SAy 1 million persons

buy it at $20.00 a pop. This scum bag retires rich as hell and were still no

better and lighter in the wallet to

[Guest guest]

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From: Angelo <tommybad238@...>

Subject: (unknown)

Hepatitis C

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 10:08 PM

=A0=20

There have been quite a few things that have happened these past few years =

to shake up the clinical studies. Like what you mentioned and many others. =

Scientist taking kickbacks, lobbying for money, fixing results of clinical =

trials etc. At least these things improve there security checks from here o=

n end.=A0=A0My whole thing is desprete people will do most anything. And fo=

r those who tried treatment and got very sick from it and it didn't work an=

d have cirhosis now many may have that deperation in them to surf the net a=

nd see all these claims of accupunture for hep c and collidal silver, and v=

arious herbs etc. The thing is most studyies on these items are done in pet=

ri dishes or animals. In humans these things barely get absorbed if at all =

and people are spending there hard earned money on this shit. The way our b=

odies metabolizes these supplements or herbs renders most of them useless o=

r turnes them into something else. They don't tell you that on there

web sites though. Look at the debates with herbs. Do you buy the whole herb=

or the extract. Which one gets absorbed better if it all. Do you include t=

he root in the extract or whole herb. How about the leaves which is the par=

t you need but they don't include that etc.=A0Look at the blueberries thing=

that came out that kills hep c. The problem is it's " Rabbit Eye " blueberys=

where there in Southeast USA but nobody sells a rabbit eye extracts. Belie=

ve me I checked it out. The research doesn't say how they took it either. M=

aybe they included something with to help absorb it. Now someone will come =

along and say they have rabbit eye extract for hep c and millions will buy =

it not knowing if it's really rabbit eye blueberry extract or if it even ge=

ts absorbed. SAy 1 million persons buy it at $20.00 a pop. This scum bag re=

tires rich as hell and were still no better and lighter in the wallet to

[Guest guest]

everything is trial and error,life itself is

From: Angelo <tommybad238@...>

Subject: (unknown)

Hepatitis C

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 10:08 PM

 

There have been quite a few things that have happened these past few years to

shake up the clinical studies. Like what you mentioned and many others.

Scientist taking kickbacks, lobbying for money, fixing results of clinical

trials etc. At least these things improve there security checks from here on

end.  My whole thing is desprete people will do most anything. And for those who

tried treatment and got very sick from it and it didn't work and have cirhosis

now many may have that deperation in them to surf the net and see all these

claims of accupunture for hep c and collidal silver, and various herbs etc. The

thing is most studyies on these items are done in petri dishes or animals. In

humans these things barely get absorbed if at all and people are spending there

hard earned money on this shit. The way our bodies metabolizes these supplements

or herbs renders most of them useless or turnes them into something else. They

don't tell you that on there

web sites though. Look at the debates with herbs. Do you buy the whole herb or

the extract. Which one gets absorbed better if it all. Do you include the root

in the extract or whole herb. How about the leaves which is the part you need

but they don't include that etc. Look at the blueberries thing that came out

that kills hep c. The problem is it's " Rabbit Eye " blueberys where there in

Southeast USA but nobody sells a rabbit eye extracts. Believe me I checked it

out. The research doesn't say how they took it either. Maybe they included

something with to help absorb it. Now someone will come along and say they have

rabbit eye extract for hep c and millions will buy it not knowing if it's really

rabbit eye blueberry extract or if it even gets absorbed. SAy 1 million persons

buy it at $20.00 a pop. This scum bag retires rich as hell and were still no

better and lighter in the wallet to

[Guest guest]

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From: Angelo <tommybad238@...>

Subject: (unknown)

Hepatitis C

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 10:08 PM

=A0=20

There have been quite a few things that have happened these past few years =

to shake up the clinical studies. Like what you mentioned and many others. =

Scientist taking kickbacks, lobbying for money, fixing results of clinical =

trials etc. At least these things improve there security checks from here o=

n end.=A0=A0My whole thing is desprete people will do most anything. And fo=

r those who tried treatment and got very sick from it and it didn't work an=

d have cirhosis now many may have that deperation in them to surf the net a=

nd see all these claims of accupunture for hep c and collidal silver, and v=

arious herbs etc. The thing is most studyies on these items are done in pet=

ri dishes or animals. In humans these things barely get absorbed if at all =

and people are spending there hard earned money on this shit. The way our b=

odies metabolizes these supplements or herbs renders most of them useless o=

r turnes them into something else. They don't tell you that on there

web sites though. Look at the debates with herbs. Do you buy the whole herb=

or the extract. Which one gets absorbed better if it all. Do you include t=

he root in the extract or whole herb. How about the leaves which is the par=

t you need but they don't include that etc.=A0Look at the blueberries thing=

that came out that kills hep c. The problem is it's " Rabbit Eye " blueberys=

where there in Southeast USA but nobody sells a rabbit eye extracts. Belie=

ve me I checked it out. The research doesn't say how they took it either. M=

aybe they included something with to help absorb it. Now someone will come =

along and say they have rabbit eye extract for hep c and millions will buy =

it not knowing if it's really rabbit eye blueberry extract or if it even ge=

ts absorbed. SAy 1 million persons buy it at $20.00 a pop. This scum bag re=

tires rich as hell and were still no better and lighter in the wallet to

[Guest guest]

everything is trial and error,life itself is

From: Angelo <tommybad238@...>

Subject: (unknown)

Hepatitis C

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 10:08 PM

 

There have been quite a few things that have happened these past few years to

shake up the clinical studies. Like what you mentioned and many others.

Scientist taking kickbacks, lobbying for money, fixing results of clinical

trials etc. At least these things improve there security checks from here on

end.  My whole thing is desprete people will do most anything. And for those who

tried treatment and got very sick from it and it didn't work and have cirhosis

now many may have that deperation in them to surf the net and see all these

claims of accupunture for hep c and collidal silver, and various herbs etc. The

thing is most studyies on these items are done in petri dishes or animals. In

humans these things barely get absorbed if at all and people are spending there

hard earned money on this shit. The way our bodies metabolizes these supplements

or herbs renders most of them useless or turnes them into something else. They

don't tell you that on there

web sites though. Look at the debates with herbs. Do you buy the whole herb or

the extract. Which one gets absorbed better if it all. Do you include the root

in the extract or whole herb. How about the leaves which is the part you need

but they don't include that etc. Look at the blueberries thing that came out

that kills hep c. The problem is it's " Rabbit Eye " blueberys where there in

Southeast USA but nobody sells a rabbit eye extracts. Believe me I checked it

out. The research doesn't say how they took it either. Maybe they included

something with to help absorb it. Now someone will come along and say they have

rabbit eye extract for hep c and millions will buy it not knowing if it's really

rabbit eye blueberry extract or if it even gets absorbed. SAy 1 million persons

buy it at $20.00 a pop. This scum bag retires rich as hell and were still no

better and lighter in the wallet to

[Guest guest]

I have had hep c close to 35 years

In a message dated 9/6/2009 1:49:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tommybad238@... writes:

This is great news. Look at that persons age and the degree of liver damage and still beat this monster and on top of that couldn't handle the interferon at first. A great motivation piece and something to remember in case maybe you might not be able to handle Ribaviren and maybe they can desensitize you to that or other protese inhibeters.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the link.I was ready to stop treatment until I learned this is from the hep.Treament hasn't been bad but this really made me sick not to mention the blisters on my hands,feet and mouth.I did labs friday and maybe drawling blood helped.I go to Hopkins Wed and hopefully they'll start the therapy that day.Also hope still responding.I keep thinking this is a sign it's not working.Went from 5 mil to 979 in 1st couple weeks. pam

[ ] (unknown)

http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/porphyria/index.htm

Here is a link Pam on porphyria.

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yuk !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Charley <thisdance@...> wrote:

Airjet Gun- I got shot with it and they kept wiping blood off it and

cuting people with it so the blood was their and a slopy job of

cleaning it when they have over 100 men lined up getting shot.

[Guest guest]

PamIn the first part of my treatment this year, my hands swole up so bad that I had to have my rings all cut off. It only lasted a very short time, I just haven't bothered to have my rings fixed again yet - still hoping for some big weight loss.Again, there is a chart about the expected viral count to drop by the third month. Yours had already done that extremely well. As my liver gets really sick, the palms of my hands get redder and redder. Now, just past the 31st week, my palms have lightened up significantly and that gives me hope. I'm not allowed to know what the results of my viral counts are at each juncture because of it being a Trial. The Clinic and I can only guess that because the Pharmaceutical that is doing this trial has not

pulled me from the TX, that everything is going really good so far.Gloria

Thanks for the link.I was ready to stop treatment until I learned this is from the hep.Treament hasn't been bad but this really made me sick not to mention the blisters on my hands,feet and mouth.I did labs friday and maybe drawling blood helped.I go to Hopkins Wed and hopefully they'll start the therapy that day.Also hope still responding.I keep thinking this is a sign it's not working.Went from 5 mil to 979 in 1st couple weeks. pam

[ ] (unknown)

http://digestive. niddk.nih. gov/ddiseases/ pubs/porphyria/ index.htm

Here is a link Pam on porphyria.

Canada Toolbar : Search from anywhere on the web and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now!

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The reason I think it's the air gun for me is that's the only time I recall getting

sick afterwards, the acute phase‹(•¿•)› Ress Felton, CAlaw of abundancevisualize health only good lies before me

From: Charley <thisdance@...>Subject: Re: [ ] (unknown) Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 12:24 AM

Airjet Gun- I got shot with it and they kept wiping blood off it and cuting people with it so the blood was their and a slopy job of cleaning it when they have over 100 men lined up getting shot.

[Guest guest]

I had swollen hands before,they got better after starting treatment but this is really nasty and I got really sick.I actually felt like I was losing my mind as well.I feel a little better tonight finally.I have anxiety about my shot tomorrow night but will do it.Wed doc appt can't come soon enough. Thanks for sharing, guess it's gotta get worse before it gets better?As long as I'm still responding I'll keep going... pam

[ ] (unknown)

http://digestive. niddk.nih. gov/ddiseases/ pubs/porphyria/ index.htm

Here is a link Pam on porphyria.

Canada Toolbar : Search from anywhere on the web and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now!

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PamDo you have help at home ?? I was one of the lucky ones and the treatments have never made me physically ill so I can't comment on that part. I have a friend that is on Interferon Maintenance Therapy and she started getting really sick as well; but, we believe that it may have been in part, due to the fact her fridge was not staying cold enough. I'll have to ask her if that's been fixed now, because she sure does seem to be back up and battling for more attention for this virus again.Also, have you talked to your Dr's about anti-depressants while on these meds?? I didn't go on them my first time around simply because it just never dawned on me and at that time, I had such a positive outlook that nothing could have brought me down. I did take the Hep

Nurses at their word and right from the beginning, always took my shot on a Friday night and planned on not having anything to do for the whole weekend. That way, I could be back up and working again on the Monday I figured. Well, I hadn't planned on the intense brain fog nor the bad dive to my thyroid; but, it all worked out as each little thing presented itself. The fact that my absolutely wonderful mother (she was 74 then) came in to "help" me with my bookkeeping business was what kept it all together.I started on anti-depressants about a year and half after that treatment because I was still struggling so hard to accept that I just simply wasn't me anymore. Very often our sick livers will trigger Fibromyalgia either before, during or after treatment. I guess that mine was sometime during although I didn't notice until after. That meant that I had days that I could hardly walk and you could forget

navigating stairs.During this second round of treatment, I would be laying in bed, in that half asleep/half awake state, feeling lousy and that finally led to thinking those awful thoughts!! I know that I needed help immediately and fortunately still have very tight access to the local Hep C Nurses for a little counselling and to my Dr for an uppage in my Anti-d's. Now I find that although I still plan my weekends exactly the same way, I can get up at least and sit in front of this computer for a couple of hours each time.Gloria

I had swollen hands before,they got better after starting treatment but this is really nasty and I got really sick.I actually felt like I was losing my mind as well.I feel a little better tonight finally.I have anxiety about my shot tomorrow night but will do it.Wed doc appt can't come soon enough. Thanks for sharing, guess it's gotta get worse before it gets better?As long as I'm still responding I'll keep going... pam

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I've never heard that anyone calls a lack of of being able to read the viral load - a cure??? When did this happen and why?Gloria

They never cured a virus before Don. Not even the common cold. This is the first virus that they are calling a "cure" now. The future looks bright for those with hep c it is just a shame that a lot of people don't have to long into the future to look.

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Hi Gloria

I have a question for you.

Do you think that your anti-depressants had anything to do with your failing to 'cure'?

I have researched, and asked, and it seems that AD's are very bad for the liver.

I am weeding myself of mine, as I increase my alternative stuff.

Of course if I get suicidal again I will have to restart them.

Meanwhile I just tough out the depression.

From: Gloria <gadamscan@...>Subject: Re: [ ] (unknown) Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 10:08 PM

PamDo you have help at home ?? I was one of the lucky ones and the treatments have never made me physically ill so I can't comment on that part. I have a friend that is on Interferon Maintenance Therapy and she started getting really sick as well; but, we believe that it may have been in part, due to the fact her fridge was not staying cold enough. I'll have to ask her if that's been fixed now, because she sure does seem to be back up and battling for more attention for this virus again.Also, have you talked to your Dr's about anti-depressants while on these meds?? I didn't go on them my first time around simply because it just never dawned on me and at that time, I had such a positive outlook that nothing could have brought me down. I did take the Hep Nurses at their word and right from the beginning, always took my shot on a Friday night and planned on not having anything to do for the whole

weekend. That way, I could be back up and working again on the Monday I figured. Well, I hadn't planned on the intense brain fog nor the bad dive to my thyroid; but, it all worked out as each little thing presented itself. The fact that my absolutely wonderful mother (she was 74 then) came in to "help" me with my bookkeeping business was what kept it all together.I started on anti-depressants about a year and half after that treatment because I was still struggling so hard to accept that I just simply wasn't me anymore. Very often our sick livers will trigger Fibromyalgia either before, during or after treatment. I guess that mine was sometime during although I didn't notice until after. That meant that I had days that I could hardly walk and you could forget navigating stairs.During this second round of treatment, I would be laying in bed, in that half asleep/half awake state, feeling lousy and that

finally led to thinking those awful thoughts!! I know that I needed help immediately and fortunately still have very tight access to the local Hep C Nurses for a little counselling and to my Dr for an uppage in my Anti-d's. Now I find that although I still plan my weekends exactly the same way, I can get up at least and sit in front of this computer for a couple of hours each time.Gloria

I had swollen hands before,they got better after starting treatment but this is really nasty and I got really sick.I actually felt like I was losing my mind as well.I feel a little better tonight finally.I have anxiety about my shot tomorrow night but will do it.Wed doc appt can't come soon enough. Thanks for sharing, guess it's gotta get worse before it gets better?As long as I'm still responding I'll keep going... pam

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I tried anti'd"s but got real sick.I am single with 5 boys at home.Been managable till this porphyria kicked in.That's what makin me sick. pam

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I feel like I am going thru deja vu.

I made the comment months ago that even though a person reaches SVR, the virus is still present in ones body, however slight.

Many never become active again, [thank God], but some do, and have to repeat TX down the road.

I always thought of a 'cure' as a total eradication, meaning 'no traces what-so-ever even on a cellular level'.

From: Gloria <gadamscan@...>Subject: Re: [ ] (unknown) Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 10:10 PM

I've never heard that anyone calls a lack of of being able to read the viral load - a cure??? When did this happen and why?Gloria

They never cured a virus before Don. Not even the common cold. This is the first virus that they are calling a "cure" now. The future looks bright for those with hep c it is just a shame that a lot of people don't have to long into the future to look.

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Hi Pam

Is there some kind of meds you can take for this condition?

From: pam miller <pammango@...>Subject: Re: [ ] (unknown) Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 10:41 PM

I tried anti'd"s but got real sick.I am single with 5 boys at home.Been managable till this porphyria kicked in.That's what makin me sick. pam

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cause it is non-detectable for an amount of time but i think that they really only know as the our disease unfolds then and only then do they have the info they need to make hypothesisOn Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Gloria <gadamscan@...> wrote:

I've never heard that anyone calls a lack of of being able to read the viral load - a cure???  When did this happen and why?Gloria

 

They never cured a virus before Don. Not even the common cold. This is the first virus that they are calling a " cure " now. The future looks bright for those with hep c it is just a shame that a lot of people don't have to long into the future to look.

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