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Dr. Grim, what do you think causes the sensations of warmth associated with PA?

> PA = primary aldosteronism = hyperaldosteronism

>

> Val

>

> From: hyperaldosteronism

> [mailto:hyperaldosteronism] On Behalf Of Francine

> Klein

>

> Sorry to have to ask this, but what does PA stand for? I will press

> for

> aldosterone and renin tests.

>

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Low K and unstable SNS

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May your pressure be low!

CE Grim MS MD

Specializing in Difficult Hypertension

Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Education Comsulting Inc

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On Nov 16, 2008, at 9:17 PM, Francine Klein <fkklein5@...> wrote:

> Dr. Grim, what do you think causes the sensations of warmth

> associated with PA?

>

>

>

> > PA = primary aldosteronism = hyperaldosteronism

> >

> > Val

> >

> > From: hyperaldosteronism

> > [mailto:hyperaldosteronism] On Behalf Of Francine

> > Klein

> >

> > Sorry to have to ask this, but what does PA stand for? I will press

> > for

> > aldosterone and renin tests.

> >

> >

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??? nervous system???

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Lowerbp2

Low K and unstable SNS

On Nov 16, 2008, at 9:17 PM, Francine Klein <fkklein5@...

<mailto:fkklein5%40> > wrote:

> Dr. Grim, what do you think causes the sensations of warmth

> associated with PA?

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OK, I got SNS = sympathetic nervous system. Why, in the case of PA, would

the sympathetic nervous system become unstable? Does the parasympathetic

nervous system become unstable as well?

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Lowerbp2

Low K and unstable SNS

On Nov 16, 2008, at 9:17 PM, Francine Klein <fkklein5@...

<mailto:fkklein5%40> > wrote:

> Dr. Grim, what do you think causes the sensations of warmth

> associated with PA?

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> Mini-farm is a term I rarely see. Am I right in thinking you use bio-

> intensive methods? Or have spent time around Ecology Action and/or

> Jeavons?

>

Adam, To some extent, yes, but only as a novice. I'm not sure where I

picked up the term (though I don't know of Jeavons), but it was

probably from permaculture or self-sufficiency books.

Also, thanks for your opinions. If any of my experiments yield

interesting results, I will duly note them here!

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> Just to add to what Adam already wrote, do be careful when re-melting

the jo-ro-wax not to apply too much heat or heat for very long 'cause

you'll lose some (or all)of your rose scent that way.

>

> Cheers!

>

> Patty

>

Thanks Patty! I'll be sure to keep it to a careful simmer!

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Low K interferes with many control systems and many of our folks seem

to have this problem

Need more feedback on if

It gets better with MCB (mineralcortorticoid blockade)

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May your pressure be low!

CE Grim MS MD

Specializing in Difficult Hypertension

Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Education Comsulting Inc

Sharedcareinc@...

On Nov 17, 2008, at 10:47 PM, Valarie <val@...> wrote:

> OK, I got SNS = sympathetic nervous system. Why, in the case of PA,

> would

> the sympathetic nervous system become unstable? Does the

> parasympathetic

> nervous system become unstable as well?

>

> Val

>

> From: hyperaldosteronism

> [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Lowerbp2

>

> Low K and unstable SNS

>

> On Nov 16, 2008, at 9:17 PM, Francine Klein <fkklein5@...

> <mailto:fkklein5%40> > wrote:

>

> > Dr. Grim, what do you think causes the sensations of warmth

> > associated with PA?

>

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Dr. Grim, thank you for your reply.  With PA, do you expect the morning blood

pressure to be higher or lower than the rest of the day? 

>

> > PA = primary aldosteronism = hyperaldosteronism

> >

> > Val

> >

> > From: hyperaldosteronism

> > [mailto:hyperaldost eronism] On Behalf Of Francine

> > Klein

> >

> > Sorry to have to ask this, but what does PA stand for? I will press

> > for

> > aldosterone and renin tests.

> >

> >

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One feature of PA is that BP

Does not drop (dip) at night so called non-dipping

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CE Grim MS MD

Specializing in Difficult Hypertension

Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Education Comsulting Inc

Sharedcareinc@...

On Nov 20, 2008, at 2:48 PM, Francine Klein <fkklein5@...> wrote:

> Dr. Grim, thank you for your reply. With PA, do you expect the

> morning blood pressure to be higher or lower than the rest of the day?

>

>

> >

> > > PA = primary aldosteronism = hyperaldosteronism

> > >

> > > Val

> > >

> > > From: hyperaldosteronism

> > > [mailto:hyperaldost eronism] On Behalf Of

> Francine

> > > Klein

> > >

> > > Sorry to have to ask this, but what does PA stand for? I will

> press

> > > for

> > > aldosterone and renin tests.

> > >

> > >

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You go girl!!!

Eva

From: ROBERTA DOYLE

Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:55 PM

Subject: [ ] (unknown)

HI ALL, HAD LABS DONE YESTERDAY , HBG WAS 7.4, NEUTS .6

SO DID NOT HAVE TO GO TO ANN ARBOR FOR A TREATMENT., BUT I DID GO TO THE

CLEVELAND CLINIC FOR TWO PINTS OF BLOOD. WAS THERE FROM 8 AM TO 6 PM. I GOT

CROSS MATCHED, THEN THEY BROUGHT IN BREAKFAST. PANCAKES, BACON, CEREAL, CUP OF

FRUIT, COFFEE, THEY BROUGHT IN THE FIRST PINT AT 11:30, THEN BROUGHT IN LUNCH.

SALAD, CHICKEN , MAC AND CHEESE, COFFEE, MILK AND A COOKIE AND A DISH OF FRUIT,.

THEY BROUGHT IN THE SECOND PINT AT 2:15, AND BROUGHT IN DINNER AT 5, SOUP, STIR

FRY WITH GRILLED CHICKEN, A HUGH PIECE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE FROSTED WITH CHOCOLATE

ICING AND MORE COFFEE. I LEFT A HAPPY PLATE WITH ALL 3 MEALS, AND I GUESS I CAN

BE SAFE IN SAYING I WILL SHOW A GAIN THIS WEEK???????

I DON'T CARE, I ALREADY FEEL BETTER,. MY LEGS WERE ACHING WHEN I WALKED MORE

THAN 20 FT., I HAVE HAD NO APPETITE FOR OVER A WEEK. I HAVE HAD NO ENERGY AT

ALL.

BUT NOW, WITH ALL MY NEW BLOOD, I AM REJUVENATED, I AM BRAND NEW, I CAN NOW

TACKLE WINDMILLS! I AM A NEW PERSON, AND NOW I CAN HANDLE 21 GUESTS FOR

THANKSGIVING DINNER, INCLUDING LEN AND ERNIE PASCHAL WHO ALSO CAME TO DINNER

LAST YEAR. YEP! THEY HAVE BEEN IN ANN ARBOR OVER 14 MONTHS. SO THANKSGIVING

DAY WE GET TO PARTY AND EAT, AND FORGET ABOUT CML AND TRIALS AND BE VERY

THANKFUL THAT WE CAN BE TOGETHER, AND VERY THANKFUL THAT WE HAVE COME THIS FAR,

THANKS TO RESEARCH AND OUR WONDERFUL DOCTORS.

EVERYONE HAVE A GREAT HOLIDAY, IF YOU CELEBRATE , AND IF YOU DON'T JUST ENJOY

BEING HERE TO CELEBRATE ANY THING YOU WANT!!!! LOVE, BOBBY

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Sue, thank you for remembering my birthday.

Deanna

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On Nov 21, 2008, at 4:35 PM, Corn <butterfliesrfree309@...> wrote:

Kathy- How are you and Lenny doing? I hope you are both recovering and feeling

better.

- I'm so sorry that the HBOT didn't work out for your sister. She had to

give it a try. There was always that chance that it would have helped. I hope

she's not suffering.

Thank you for asking about me. I have had some horrific pain flares. I've been

getting nerve blocks which have been helping, but it's painful to type, so I

haven't been online.

I agree prayers help. Thank you for yours. I will continue to keep you and your

family in mine.

- Congratulations on your surgery date. I hope all goes well.

Kim- Glad that your trial is giving you good results

Deanna- Happy Birthday

Hope all is well with everyone else

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Hi ,

yes this is what I am trying to get at but don't have the necessary microbiology to work out.

I am just on a beginners dose of armour, still waiting for my adrenals to function on their own and for my anaemia to improve. i took molasses three times a day for the first month of my anaemia. i got through the whole tin but i have no wish to do that again- shall stick with liver and black pudding!

i find plain water to be of very little help, the headachey, lack of clarity, sluggishness resolves with salt water. but this must obviously alter the fluid/ mineral balance, resolving one problem but uncovering another- cystitis.

the adrenals forum has a very good explanation about cell osmosis and how this malfunctions with low adreanls/ thyroid and that sodium is actually being lost while fluid is seemingly being retained, resulting in oedema. I don't think that chain drinking water is the solution for what is a form of cell dehydration, due to cell malfunction, but yeah, it usually flushes away the cystitis!

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Don't know about the rash but I would strongly encourage you to get him some behavior therapy regardless if he's on meds or not. I also only medicate my son during the school week (no weekends/holidays) but when he was your son's age, I got him into behavior therapy for three years which helped him and me tremendously.

"Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out."

From: Leighanne Ratliff <a_cute_tx_cowgirl@...>children_with_autism Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:16:20 PMSubject: ( ) (unknown)

Hey everyone,

My five year old son has PDD-NOS. He has also recently been diagnosed with Inattentive ADHD. We are trying a med just to see if it helps or not. If it doesn't help then we'll stop and try something non med related. He is currently taking Adderall XR 5 mg capsules. He has been taking them since Sunday morning. I only give it to him on the school days and let him go without it on the weekends and school holidays. I have enlisted the help of his teacher to let me know if it seems to be helping and if she thinks it makes him zombie or if she notices any side effects. Last night while I was giving him a bath I noticed a light red rash around his neck and shoulders and arms. I am wondering if he might be allergic to this med. Does anyone else's child take Adderall XR? If they do did they get a rash that went away with continuing treatment. If it doesn't go way I will have to take him back to the doctor to have it looked at. Anyway, any help would

be greatly appreciated and as always is a big help.

Leighanne (Mom to -5 with ADHD and PDD-NOS)

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Dear and Leighanne,

Since I am not familiar with your particular medication, nor

physician's instructions, forgive me if the following remark is

inaaplicable...

I was told by paediatricians that it is not good to utilize meds

during the week and go off on weekends. With some, it alters how the

body receives the dosage so that by Monday, the drug is no longer in

their system and makes it difficult for the child as they are

constantly going through a swing back and forth.

Just a reminder to all to check with your doctor and follow

instructions.

: ) Velvet

>

> Don't know about the rash but I would strongly encourage you to get

him some behavior therapy regardless if he's on meds or not.  I also

only medicate my son during the school week (no weekends/holidays)

but when he was your son's age, I got him into behavior therapy for

three years which helped him and me tremendously.  

>  

>

>

> " Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't

sent one out. "

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Leighanne Ratliff <a_cute_tx_cowgirl@...>

> children_with_autism

> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:16:20 PM

> Subject: ( ) (unknown)

>

>

> Hey everyone,

> My five year old son has PDD-NOS. He has also recently been

diagnosed with Inattentive ADHD. We are trying a med just to see if

it helps or not. If it doesn't help then we'll stop and try something

non med related. He is currently taking Adderall XR 5 mg capsules. He

has been taking them since Sunday morning. I only give it to him on

the school days and let him go without it on the weekends and school

holidays. I have enlisted the help of his teacher to let me know if

it seems to be helping and if she thinks it makes him zombie or if

she notices any side effects. Last night while I was giving him a

bath I noticed a light red rash around his neck and shoulders and

arms. I am wondering if he might be allergic to this med. Does anyone

else's child take Adderall XR? If they do did they get a rash that

went away with continuing treatment. If it doesn't go way I will have

to take him back to the doctor to have it looked at. Anyway, any help

would be

> greatly appreciated and as always is a big help.

>

>

>

> Leighanne

> (Mom to -5 with ADHD and PDD-NOS)

>

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I agree...my son's doctor told us not to give him his meds on the weekend or during school breaks....to give his body a break...it never made sense to me.....also, on the weekend,if he didn't take it ...and his friends were over....he was all over the place and turned them off plus he drove us crazy.

I use to think ....people with diabetes don't just take their meds. during the week and off on weekends. And, you are right...by monday the meds. are out of system and then the body has to adjust all over again?

I spoke with our doctor and he said to keep my son on his meds. all the time.

jan

Janice Rushen

"I will try to be open to all avenues of wisdom and hope"

From: tdhssp <johnvel@...>Subject: Re: ( ) (unknown) Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 9:33 AM

Dear and Leighanne,Since I am not familiar with your particular medication, nor physician's instructions, forgive me if the following remark is inaaplicable. ..I was told by paediatricians that it is not good to utilize meds during the week and go off on weekends. With some, it alters how the body receives the dosage so that by Monday, the drug is no longer in their system and makes it difficult for the child as they are constantly going through a swing back and forth.Just a reminder to all to check with your doctor and follow instructions.: ) Velvet>> Don't know about the rash but I would strongly encourage you to get him some behavior therapy regardless if he's on meds or

not. I also only medicate my son during the school week (no weekends/holidays) but when he was your son's age, I got him into behavior therapy for three years which helped him and me tremendously. > > > > "Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out." > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> From: Leighanne Ratliff <a_cute_tx_cowgirl@ ...>> children_with_ autism@grou ps.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:16:20 PM> Subject: ( ) (unknown)> > > Hey everyone,> My five year old son has PDD-NOS. He has also recently been diagnosed with Inattentive ADHD. We are trying a med just to see if it helps

or not. If it doesn't help then we'll stop and try something non med related. He is currently taking Adderall XR 5 mg capsules. He has been taking them since Sunday morning. I only give it to him on the school days and let him go without it on the weekends and school holidays. I have enlisted the help of his teacher to let me know if it seems to be helping and if she thinks it makes him zombie or if she notices any side effects. Last night while I was giving him a bath I noticed a light red rash around his neck and shoulders and arms. I am wondering if he might be allergic to this med. Does anyone else's child take Adderall XR? If they do did they get a rash that went away with continuing treatment. If it doesn't go way I will have to take him back to the doctor to have it looked at. Anyway, any help would be> greatly appreciated and as always is a big help. > > > >

Leighanne > (Mom to -5 with ADHD and PDD-NOS)>

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On Jul 26, 4:08pm, rushen janice wrote:

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} I agree...my son's doctor told us not to give him his meds on the weekend o=

} r during school breaks....to give his body a break...it never made sense to=

} me.....also, on the weekend,if he didn't take it ...and his friends were o=

} ver....he was all over the place and turned them off plus he drove us crazy=

} I use to think ....people with diabetes don't just take their meds. during =

} the week and off on weekends. And, you are right...by monday the meds. are =

} out of system and then the body has to adjust all over again?=A0=20

} =A0

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I think it really depends on the type of medication -- and of course, also

on the people. Some people really seem to appreciate the break. Our son is

on a med that needs to be taken consistently, however.

(There are in fact diabetes meds you can take as needed, though they're

not all that common. Just FYI.)

Willa

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I agree...it all depends on the medication, the child and each situation.....but I do know...my son's friends notice when he is not on his meds....they tell him to go take them otherwise he drives them crazy...and me too!

Janice Rushen

"I will try to be open to all avenues of wisdom and hope"} } I agree...my son's doctor told us not to give him his meds on the weekend o=} r during school breaks....to give his body a break...it never made sense to=} me.....also, on the weekend,if he didn't take it ...and his friends were o=} ver....he was all over the place and turned them off plus he drove us crazy=} I use to think ....people with diabetes don't just take their meds. during =} the week and off on weekends. And, you are right...by monday the meds. are =} out of system and then the body has to adjust all over again?=A0=20} =A0} I spoke with our doctor and he said to keep my son on his meds. all the tim=} e.I think it really depends on the type of medication -- and of course, alsoon the people. Some people really seem to appreciate the break. Our son ison a med that needs to be taken consistently, however.(There are in fact

diabetes meds you can take as needed, though they'renot all that common. Just FYI.)Willa

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I'm glad you made that distinction. Nobody on this list should ever change medication dosages without first speaking to a doctor or pharmacist.

My son is on a medication routinely given to kids w/ ADHD that he can stop/start as we see fit w/ no side effects. He doesn't have to be on it every day for it to work or to prevent problems from inconsistent dosing. We've talked about other meds for him in the past (for anxiety) but those drugs he'd have to take every day, even in the summers and holidays, and I'm just not willing to do it. I want his body to take a break and for him to be "au naturale" at home with me in the evenings/weekends/holidays. He's fine not being on it at home. Doesn't mean we don't have problems b/c we do but I use behavior modification techniques with him that work so why medicate him?

"Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out."

From: tdhssp <johnvel@...> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 8:33:31 AMSubject: Re: ( ) (unknown)

Dear and Leighanne,Since I am not familiar with your particular medication, nor physician's instructions, forgive me if the following remark is inaaplicable. ..I was told by paediatricians that it is not good to utilize meds during the week and go off on weekends. With some, it alters how the body receives the dosage so that by Monday, the drug is no longer in their system and makes it difficult for the child as they are constantly going through a swing back and forth.Just a reminder to all to check with your doctor and follow instructions.: ) Velvet>> Don't know about the rash but I would strongly encourage you to get him some behavior

therapy regardless if he's on meds or not. I also only medicate my son during the school week (no weekends/holidays) but when he was your son's age, I got him into behavior therapy for three years which helped him and me tremendously. > > > > "Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out." > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> From: Leighanne Ratliff <a_cute_tx_cowgirl@ ...>> children_with_ autism@grou ps.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:16:20 PM> Subject: ( ) (unknown)> > > Hey everyone,> My five year old son has PDD-NOS. He has also

recently been diagnosed with Inattentive ADHD. We are trying a med just to see if it helps or not. If it doesn't help then we'll stop and try something non med related. He is currently taking Adderall XR 5 mg capsules. He has been taking them since Sunday morning. I only give it to him on the school days and let him go without it on the weekends and school holidays. I have enlisted the help of his teacher to let me know if it seems to be helping and if she thinks it makes him zombie or if she notices any side effects. Last night while I was giving him a bath I noticed a light red rash around his neck and shoulders and arms. I am wondering if he might be allergic to this med. Does anyone else's child take Adderall XR? If they do did they get a rash that went away with continuing treatment. If it doesn't go way I will have to take him back to the doctor to have it looked at. Anyway, any help would

be> greatly appreciated and as always is a big help. > > > > Leighanne > (Mom to -5 with ADHD and PDD-NOS)>

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program has probably deactivated

1 shutdown all and reboot

2 if after this there is a 7 digit number on top left of password then system is deactivated and needs reactivation.

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From: qxci-scio-epfx-english [mailto:qxci-scio-epfx-english ] On Behalf Of GibsonSent: 01 December 2008 17:41quantum groupSubject: (unknown)

Hi everyone i am having some problems w/my scio and need some help. Now when I turn on the clasp 32 and the box on the page where you hit the continue button there is a red box saying that signals biofeedback QXCI system is limited then from there the page afterward is completely different than it's been before and I can't get to the test page at all. I did recently get my hard drive cleaned thought we were careful to not remove any clasp 32 software but maybe we did? Help!

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oh wow...

sending best thoughts!!

Jean

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Just to let everyone know ,Lmay is in the hospital at Parsons Ks. They don`t know what is wrong with her yet .They are waiting for all the test results to come back.They think it might be menegitis

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OOPS I am sorry I forgot to put a subject in the line.

Whip me with a few big wet spagatti noodles please....................

Tracilyn

 

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Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 12:17:01 PM

Subject: (unknown)

Hello Family:

 

I am posting in hopes that someone might be able to point me in the right

direction for a point of contact at NIH for the Rhuematologist that works with

Still's Patients.

 

If someone would be so kind as to let me know off list or call me, I would

greatly appreciate it.

 

Tracilyn

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Agreed you will have to call your broker for an activation code , you

will have to be at your computer when you receive that code to

immediately input.

>

> program has probably deactivated

> 1 shutdown all and reboot

> 2 if after this there is a 7 digit number on top left of

password then

> system is deactivated and needs reactivation.

>

> Dr Kelsey PhD, ND

> Vice Chancellor- IMUNE

> www.imune.net <http://www.imune.net/> - worldwide

> www.nehcboard.com <http://www.nehcboard.com/> - USA

> www.imuneseminar.com <http://www.imuneseminar.com/> - for cutting edge

> conferences

> T: +44 (0) 121 243 6318

> F: +44 (0) 870 460 1138

>

> _____

>

> From: qxci-scio-epfx-english

> [mailto:qxci-scio-epfx-english ] On Behalf Of

Gibson

> Sent: 01 December 2008 17:41

> quantum group

> Subject: (unknown)

>

>

>

>

> Hi everyone i am having some problems w/my scio and need some help.

Now

> when I turn on the clasp 32 and the box on the page where you hit the

> continue button there is a red box saying that signals biofeedback QXCI

> system is limited then from there the page afterward is completely

different

> than it's been before and I can't get to the test page at all. I did

> recently get my hard drive cleaned thought we were careful to not

remove any

> clasp 32 software but maybe we did? Help!

>

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Shar,

I'm very sorry your so sick right now. As for bringing on a flare I don't

know. I guess it all depends on how badly you mean a flare and where your

Still's might be at in the course of your disease. If it's already very bad

I would think yes, it might make it worse a lot but if your in a semi or

remised state maybe then you would just get a bit more achier and a bit more

than a person without Stills. I hope anyway. Like I said, no one really can

tell but the best thing is to not worry, take care of yourself and snuggle

down and rest.

Lots of hugs,

_____

On Behalf Of Sharlene Rougeau

Subject: (unknown)

Hi! everyone,

I em very sick with the flu......very sick, does anyone know if this will

bring on a flair!

Shar

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