(No subject)

[Guest guest]

What a nice sentiment Janet. Wish you were coming, what great success you've

had. But the good news is, you'll be at the next one! PhillyJude MGB 11-3-00

[Guest guest]

How come I get emails from members when they send it to you?

This is the 3rd one already within a couple of hours.

Please fix it.

I just became a member today.

[Guest guest]

Go back to the main page og the news group and edit your info to read only

messages in the room / no emails.

I hope this makes sense..... )

[Guest guest]

Yes and LONG overdue, especially with the things that he has been posting in

a tragic time like this! Perhaps, TONY you can email him and chew him put

like you do me way too often.

[Guest guest]

Since the 11th,almost all our conversations,posts,and activities have seemed

unimportant and an effort to struggle through.This is true nationally.Many

are searching to make reason out of their lives.

I saw 'Conan' last night,and every joke he said,he prefaced with saying how

inane and unimportant it was,and looked back at a couple of weeks ago and

said it felt as though it was a different lifetime.

People have found that really bad things _can_ happen to themselves,and it

has struck them with fear of their future,and they are changed.

You know,before this,people met with personal life changing events-breast

cancer,kidnapped children,terminal illness in their

family,rape,murder,tornados,etc.When they acted like nothing matters any

more,we told them the same insipid thing the mayor of New York says-go back

to normal,pretend it didn't happen.

For the last year and a half,I have been trying to be normal,with great

effort(which is very tiring).I have forced myself to look like I give a

flyin' hoot about what fabric a friend's couch will be in ,and will it match

the drapes?Another friend avoids me because I am so 'negative'-I just can't

care about her constant crisis,which amount to nothing more than should she

get that new purse that matches her shoes?What should she do?!

Have I been depressed,or was life put into clear perspective?Nationally,I

would say life has been brought into sharper focus,which will(sadly) dull as

the 'daily' returns.God will return to being our national mascot,no one

cares to know what he wants,anyway.And people will go back to pretending

their life isn't fading like grass.

Ecclesiastes 1

1

The words of the Teacher,[1] son of , king in Jerusalem:

2

" Meaningless! Meaningless! " says the Teacher. " Utterly meaningless!

Everything is meaningless. "

3

What does man gain from all his labor at which he toils under the sun?

4

Generations come and generations go, but the earth remains forever.

5

The sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries back to where it rises.

6

The wind blows to the south and turns to the north; round and round it goes,

ever returning on its course.

7

All streams flow into the sea, yet the sea is never full. To the place the

streams come from, there they return again.

8

All things are wearisome, more than one can say. The eye never has enough of

seeing, nor the ear its fill of hearing.

9

What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is

nothing new under the sun.

10

Is there anything of which one can say, " Look! This is something new " ? It

was here already, long ago; it was here before our time.

11

There is no remembrance of men of old, and even those who are yet to come

will not be remembered by those who follow.

12

I, the Teacher, was king over Israel in Jerusalem.

13

I devoted myself to study and to explore by wisdom all that is done under

heaven. What a heavy burden God has laid on men!

14

I have seen all the things that are done under the sun; all of them are

meaningless, a chasing after the wind.

15

What is twisted cannot be straightened; what is lacking cannot be counted.

16

I thought to myself, " Look, I have grown and increased in wisdom more than

anyone who has ruled over Jerusalem before me; I have experienced much of

wisdom and knowledge. "

17

Then I applied myself to the understanding of wisdom, and also of madness

and folly, but I learned that this, too, is a chasing after the wind.

18

For with much wisdom comes much sorrow; the more knowledge, the more grief.

Jill

(no subject)

>

>

> With all due respect, can't we find anything more interesting or

> worthwhile to discuss besides " little brother/big brother " and these

stupid

> posts about " lp escape plans " ? Anyone with a disability would have

> difficulty escaping.. I'm sure most companies have made amends for this or

> have some type of plan in their safety manuals- if they don't, then you

need

> to talk to your employer. We all have a right to free speech, but when in

my

> opinion stupid topics are hashed and rehashed this list becomes quite

boring

> and eventually people begin to unsubscribe and miss out on the good stuff

> that is posted every once in a while. That's just my opinion and i'm sure

> I'll get some of your opinions, but you know what? Whatever they may be I

> can always agree to disagree... Have a great day.

>

> Susie

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Pequena114@... wrote:

>

>

> With all due respect, can't we find anything more

> interesting or

> worthwhile to discuss besides " little brother/big brother "

> and these stupid

> posts about " lp escape plans " ?

You're right, it's probably better to talk about something

unrelated to dwarfism on a dwarfism list serve. Something

more interesting like soap operas and flame wars. Nothing

" stupid " like architectural barriers, social prejudices or

medical issues.

> Anyone with a disability would have

> difficulty escaping.. I'm sure most companies have made

> amends for this or

> have some type of plan in their safety manuals- if they

> don't, then you need

> to talk to your employer.

That's the problem, many companies don't. And to make it

worse, many employers have not given it much thought. This

forum is great place (sometimes) to get ideas on how and who

to approach to get these plans in place. Of course if it

BORES you, we should probably shuck the conversation.

> We all have a right to free speech, but when in my

> opinion stupid topics are hashed and rehashed this list

> becomes quite boring

> and eventually people begin to unsubscribe and miss out on

> the good stuff

> that is posted every once in a while. That's just my

> opinion and i'm sure

> I'll get some of your opinions, but you know what?

> Whatever they may be I

> can always agree to disagree... Have a great day.

>

> Susie

There are two categories of people: 1) those who have

something to say; 2) those who bitch about what people say.

I have a feeling you fall into category number two. If the

list bores you, say something enlightening. Entertain us.

Dazzle us.

I've got a round file just waiting for your little nuggets

of edification.

-Bill " El Stupido " Bradford

[Guest guest]

Not to " pile it on " :-) but how can lp escape plans be stupid? There is NOTHING

stupid about a parent trying to protect their child.

We are not qualified to instill world peace on people who aren't interested so I

would rather focus on what we do know...keeping ourselves and our children safe

(animals too).

Karin

Re: (no subject)

Pequena114@... wrote:

>

>

> With all due respect, can't we find anything more

> interesting or

> worthwhile to discuss besides " little brother/big brother "

> and these stupid

> posts about " lp escape plans " ?

You're right, it's probably better to talk about something

unrelated to dwarfism on a dwarfism list serve. Something

more interesting like soap operas and flame wars. Nothing

" stupid " like architectural barriers, social prejudices or

medical issues.

> Anyone with a disability would have

> difficulty escaping.. I'm sure most companies have made

> amends for this or

> have some type of plan in their safety manuals- if they

> don't, then you need

> to talk to your employer.

That's the problem, many companies don't. And to make it

worse, many employers have not given it much thought. This

forum is great place (sometimes) to get ideas on how and who

to approach to get these plans in place. Of course if it

BORES you, we should probably shuck the conversation.

> We all have a right to free speech, but when in my

> opinion stupid topics are hashed and rehashed this list

> becomes quite boring

> and eventually people begin to unsubscribe and miss out on

> the good stuff

> that is posted every once in a while. That's just my

> opinion and i'm sure

> I'll get some of your opinions, but you know what?

> Whatever they may be I

> can always agree to disagree... Have a great day.

>

> Susie

There are two categories of people: 1) those who have

something to say; 2) those who bitch about what people say.

I have a feeling you fall into category number two. If the

list bores you, say something enlightening. Entertain us.

Dazzle us.

I've got a round file just waiting for your little nuggets

of edification.

-Bill " El Stupido " Bradford

[Guest guest]

On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, & Tina Bradford wrote:

> Pequena114@... wrote:

>

> > Anyone with a disability would have difficulty escaping.. I'm sure

> > most companies have made amends for this or have some type of plan

> > in their safety manuals- if they don't, then you need to talk to your

> > employer.

>

> That's the problem, many companies don't. And to make it

> worse, many employers have not given it much thought. This

> forum is great place (sometimes) to get ideas on how and who

> to approach to get these plans in place. Of course if it

> BORES you, we should probably shuck the conversation.

This is true. At the last company I worked for, as part of a building

renovation, they put up a big, blue lighted sign that said " Disabled

Rescue Location " near a stairwell (sort of) to the ground floor. During

the next fire drill, instead of leaving, I went and stood under the sign.

Guess what? After about a minute I was the only one left in the

building... still standing there waiting to be " rescued. "

- Dave

P.S. Please pass this on to everyone in your address book, because it was

originally written by someone you've probably never met (or possibly even

heard of) and because, contrary to age-old wisdom, you CAN believe

everything you read. Therefore, it must be 100% true and should be taken

seriously. If you don't pass it on, bad things will happen to you -- like

you'll suddenly become a fan of pro wrestling (which is real, by the way),

or a dying girl scout from England who knows Fred Short too well will show

up on your doorstep and try to sell you a chocolate chip cookie recipe.

[Guest guest]

Geezes people, give the chain letter rebuke a rest!! So what if

one chain letter came on? Why can't we just give her some slack

and move on? I've been deleting a lot and not making a big deal

out of some of the other posts, but man...

In lieu of these arguments, maybe the quote " United we stand "

should be turned into " United we fall. "

Irene

> P.S. Please pass this on to everyone in your address book,

because it was

> originally written by someone you've probably never met (or

possibly even

> heard of) and because, contrary to age-old wisdom, you CAN

believe

> everything you read. Therefore, it must be 100% true and

should be taken

> seriously. If you don't pass it on, bad things will happen to you

-- like

> you'll suddenly become a fan of pro wrestling (which is real, by

the way),

> or a dying girl scout from England who knows Fred Short too

well will show

> up on your doorstep and try to sell you a chocolate chip cookie

recipe.

[Guest guest]

Just to add a bit more on this doctor, Rob Rozbruch received his Ilizarov

training under Dr. Paley and Dr. Herzenberg. He is the Co-Director of the

Limb Lengthening program at the Hospital for Special Surgery and a Clinical

Instructor at Cornell. He is a member of the faculty at the course Dr.

Paley and Dr. Herzenberg hold every September which is where I met him one

year and then I actually visited his clinic when I was up in NY. You can

read more about him and his program at

http://www.limblengthening.com Gillian.

At 11:49 PM 10/24/2001 -0400, you wrote:

>Hi

>There is a places in Manhattan that does the limb lengthening the places

>is called " Hospital for Specail Surgery'' doctor is S. Rozbruch.

>MD address is 535 East 70 th Street New York New York 10021 tell the doc

> Victor A . sent ya.\

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Thank you for signing our Eli Lilly & Prozac Petition at

http://www.petitiononline.com/lilpro

We invite you to join our group SSRI medications at

SSRI medications

So sorry to hear about the tragedy of your daughter.

Could you tell us for what reason this M.D. prescribed Prozac to her?

> I am so glad you have done this. We have been through the

courts,mental

> hospitals and still not through yet with my daughter. She has been

locked up

> for two years now. She had a reaction from prozac. Her prozac came

from a

> M.D. He did not warn her of the danger of prozac.I can not believe

this

> medicine is so easy to get.People needs to be warned about it and

the danger

> it causes.

> Thanks,

> This gives me hope for others

> Cindrich

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Thank you for signing our Eli Lilly & Prozac Petition at

http://www.petitiononline.com/lilpro

We invite you to join our group SSRI medications at

SSRI medications

So sorry to hear about the tragedy of your daughter.

Could you tell us for what reason this M.D. prescribed Prozac to her?

> I am so glad you have done this. We have been through the

courts,mental

> hospitals and still not through yet with my daughter. She has been

locked up

> for two years now. She had a reaction from prozac. Her prozac came

from a

> M.D. He did not warn her of the danger of prozac.I can not believe

this

> medicine is so easy to get.People needs to be warned about it and

the danger

> it causes.

> Thanks,

> This gives me hope for others

> Cindrich

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Hi. My son is in prison for actions while under the influence of Prozac.

Even though he is locked up, I am

grateful that he was able to stop taking it and now

seems to be on an even keel. Where is your daughter?

And how is she?

Suzy

(no subject)

> I am so glad you have done this. We have been through the courts,mental

> hospitals and still not through yet with my daughter. She has been locked

up

> for two years now. She had a reaction from prozac. Her prozac came from a

> M.D. He did not warn her of the danger of prozac.I can not believe this

> medicine is so easy to get.People needs to be warned about it and the

danger

> it causes.

> Thanks,

> This gives me hope for others

> Cindrich

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Hi. My son is in prison for actions while under the influence of Prozac.

Even though he is locked up, I am

grateful that he was able to stop taking it and now

seems to be on an even keel. Where is your daughter?

And how is she?

Suzy

(no subject)

> I am so glad you have done this. We have been through the courts,mental

> hospitals and still not through yet with my daughter. She has been locked

up

> for two years now. She had a reaction from prozac. Her prozac came from a

> M.D. He did not warn her of the danger of prozac.I can not believe this

> medicine is so easy to get.People needs to be warned about it and the

danger

> it causes.

> Thanks,

> This gives me hope for others

> Cindrich

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Hi. My son is in prison for actions while under the influence of Prozac.

Even though he is locked up, I am

grateful that he was able to stop taking it and now

seems to be on an even keel. Where is your daughter?

And how is she?

Suzy

(no subject)

> I am so glad you have done this. We have been through the courts,mental

> hospitals and still not through yet with my daughter. She has been locked

up

> for two years now. She had a reaction from prozac. Her prozac came from a

> M.D. He did not warn her of the danger of prozac.I can not believe this

> medicine is so easy to get.People needs to be warned about it and the

danger

> it causes.

> Thanks,

> This gives me hope for others

> Cindrich

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Hi. My son is in prison for actions while under the influence of Prozac.

Even though he is locked up, I am

grateful that he was able to stop taking it and now

seems to be on an even keel. Where is your daughter?

And how is she?

Suzy

(no subject)

> I am so glad you have done this. We have been through the courts,mental

> hospitals and still not through yet with my daughter. She has been locked

up

> for two years now. She had a reaction from prozac. Her prozac came from a

> M.D. He did not warn her of the danger of prozac.I can not believe this

> medicine is so easy to get.People needs to be warned about it and the

danger

> it causes.

> Thanks,

> This gives me hope for others

> Cindrich

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>From: Tattoolouu@...

>blublossom@..., bigiron@..., Keys4192@...,

>lvargo1@..., BaByDoLLGrrr@..., Baby69Tazz@...,

>nykademus@..., miss_k28@...

>Subject: (no subject)

>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 20:45:07 EST

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Good news for you! Unsubscribing is a self-service feature! At the

bottom of every single message you receive from the dwarfism list is

instructions on how to unsubscribe.

On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 TJsAndrophobia@... wrote:

> UnSUBscribe........lol

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey all.......got this letter today.......I was hoping those of you in the

Cali area could help him?

Thanks!

a Whitehead

CEO

AIS

Achondroplasia Information Source

254-533-2644

191 HCR 3315

Hubbard, TX 76648

[Guest guest]

,

You must be from England??? Sounds like it anyways.

My mother was from London.

Thanks for answering this. I think it is neat to get

to know my " extended family " .

Michele

--- juliequill@... wrote:

>

> > 1. LIVING ARRANGEMENT?

>

> Myself, my partner, four kids, my brother, a young

> apprentice that needed

> that my partner rescued and a hobo friend who has

> just lost a job & home in

> one go. oh, not forgetting, numerous dogs, cats,

> rats, hamsters, rabbits,

> fish and a messy noisy parrot.

>

> > 2. WHAT BOOK ARE YOU READING NOW?

>

> advanced health & social care. two anatomy and

> physiology books.

> psychology, piaget and bandura. (you weren't really

> that interested were

> you?!)

>

> > 3. WHAT'S ON YOUR MOUSE PAD?

>

> a poem about friends by purple ronnie and a silly

> picture to go with it.

>

> > 4. FAVORITE BOARD GAME

>

> othello

>

> > 5. FAVORITE MAGAZINE

>

> whatever i can get my hands on whilst waiting to see

> the ENT....always a 2-3

> hour over run!

>

> > 6. FAVORITE SMELLS?

>

> old fashioned english roses, fresias, baking and

> damp forests

>

> > 7. FAVORITE SOUND?

>

> everything...music, waves, wind, kids, laughing

> etc..etc....

>

> > 8. WORST FEELING IN THE WORLD

>

> being lonely

>

> > 9. WHAT IS THE FIRST THING YOU THINK OF WHEN

> > YOU WAKE UP IN THE MORNING-

>

> OMG.....is THAT the time ALREADY????

>

> > 10. FAVORITE COLORS

>

> black, gold and cream

>

> > 11. HOW MANY RINGS BEFORE YOU ANSWER THE PHONE

>

> varies...sometimes one....sometimes i screen the

> calls

>

> > 12. NAME OF FUTURE CHILD

> no future kids...well......not likely.

>

> > 13. MOST IMPORTANT THING IN LIFE?

>

> the people i love

>

> > 14. FAVORITE FOOD

>

> water melon

>

> > 15. CHOCOLATE OR VANILLA?

>

> depends...both, but generally one at a time

>

> > 16. DO YOU LIKE TO DRIVE FAST?

>

> I'm afraid so ;-)...same here, but i am much more

> cautious since i got caught

> speeding recently.

>

> > 17. DO YOU SLEEP WITH A STUFFED ANIMAL?

>

> just loads of pillows and the odd visiting child in

> the middle of the night

>

> > 18. STORMS - COOL OR SCARY

> beautiful

>

> > 19. ULTIMATE CAR?

>

> aston martin, british racing green, cream

> seats..V8.....mmmmmmm

>

> > 20. IF YOU COULD MEET ONE PERSON DEAD OR

> > ALIVE WHO WOULD IT BE?

>

> Jesus.....regardless of what people believe, he was

> at the very least a very

> charismatic person.

>

> > 21. FAVORITE ALCOHOLIC DRINK?

>

> occasional champagne....even more occasional dark

> rum and lime, with plenty

> of ice.

>

> > 22. WHAT IS YOUR ZODIAC SIGN?

> aquarius/pisces born on the cusp

>

> > 23. DO YOU EAT THE STEMS OF BROCCOLI?

>

> Yes cooked and raw.

>

> > 24. IF YOU COULD HAVE ANY JOB YOU WANTED WHAT

> > WOULD IT BE?

>

> some kind of VSO (voluntary services overseas)....i

> have done such things in

> my own country, but the system makes it very

> difficult and it is far better

> catered for than authorities admit.

>

> > 26. HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN LOVE?

>

> Yes and fortunately i still am

>

> > 27. IS THE GLASS HALF EMPTY OR HALF FULL?

>

> Depends

>

> > 28. FAVORITE MOVIES:

>

> cry freedom, fiddler on the roof, sleepers

>

> > 29. DO YOU TYPE WITH YOUR FINGERS ON THE RIGHT

> KEYS?

>

> sort of...guess that means no, but depends how long

> my finger nails are.

>

> > 30. WHAT IS UNDER YOUR BED?

>

> flat boxes containing loads of shoes and a rolled up

> chinese carpet

>

> > 31. FAVORITE NUMBER?

>

> dont really have one

>

> > 32. FAVORITE SPORT TO WATCH.

>

> Formula One

>

> > 33. SAY ONE NICE THING ABOUT THE PERSON WHO

> > SENT THIS TO YOU.

>

> i'm answering on pete's one.....so....he seems a

> really nice, genuine kinda

> guy.

>

> > 34. NAME A PERSON YOU SENT THIS TO WHO IS MOST

> > LIKELY TO RESPOND

> who knows?

>

> > 35. PERSON(S) YOU SENT THIS TO WHO IS LEAST LIKELY

> > TO RESPOND?

>

> who knows?

>

> --

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 03/08/2002 5:50:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, juliequill@... writes:

> 32. FAVORITE SPORT TO WATCH.

Formula One

Hi !

You and my husband have this in common!

[Guest guest]

so tell me michelle.....what gave me away?? ha ha ha....now you understand

why i'm so scatty...lol

looking forward to reading about the rest of the " family "

julie

[Guest guest]

ok....but what i want to know....yvonne and pete...and any F1 fans out there

is...

which driver do you like?

i was always an ayrton senna fan myself, and feel a bit lost since then.

schumi is undoubtedly a good driver, i just cant warm to him :0(

so i watch and dont really support anyone at the moment.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 03/10/2002 5:13:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, juliequill@... writes:

ok....but what i want to know....yvonne and pete...and any F1 fans out there is...

which driver do you like?

i was always an ayrton senna fan myself, and feel a bit lost since then.

schumi is undoubtedly a good driver, i just cant warm to him :0(

so i watch and dont really support anyone at the moment.

I really liked Greg who was tragically killed in a crash a couple of years ago. My husband likes Jacques Villaneuve (sp?) and Montoya. He's been to several CART races really enjoys the sport.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Actually, I have suspected/known for a long time. The only other

person I knew that used the word " whilst " was my mother. Most of my

relative still live in and around London.

I also look forward to getting to know the rest of my family. I

hope everybody isn't to shy to share, the questions are quite

generic, so let's have some fun!

Michele

> so tell me michelle.....what gave me away?? ha ha ha....now you

understand

> why i'm so scatty...lol

>

> looking forward to reading about the rest of the " family "

>

> julie