one more thing

[Guest guest]

14 years ago these companies tried to block shipment to Dr. Blais,

there is absolutely no reason now why they cannot be shipped, the

problem is that Dr. Blais is overloaded and just cannot get them done

these days. Women are reporting that they cannot get their reports

for a very long time.

You don't have to ever tell FedEx or anyone else what is in a packet,

so there is absolutely no excuse for them to not be able to be shipped.

Lynda

At 10:47 PM 6/12/2006, you wrote:

>,

>

>Hopefully someone can jump in with a first hand

>account. . . One of our ladies wanted to ship her

>implants to Dr. Blais, but the people who ship them

>wouldn't allow it. FedEx? USPS? I don't know.

>

>You might find out more by calling Dr. Feng's office.

>

>Rogene

>

>

[Guest guest]

Twas not a political force, the doctors simply tried to block them by

calling them toxic waste. I was around at the time, and believe me,

it was totally political and all because of the almighty

dollar. They did not want anyone saying that these implants were bad.

That was many years ago, it simply is not a problem anymore.

Lynda

At 10:45 PM 6/12/2006, you wrote:

>The conspiracy theory is not terribly believable.... Sorry for not

>being supportive but I just don't believe that any political force

>is interfering with getting implants into the US Mail.

> Sherry

> Re: Re: one more thing

>

>All this surprises me b/c I just paid to have mine shipped to Dr.

>Blais from Dr. Kolb's office! Knowone said anything to me!

>

>

>

>

>On 6/12/06, Rogene S <<mailto:saxony01@...>saxony01@...> wrote:

>

>,

>

>It wasn't all Dr. Feng's office . . . Something has

>been going on in regards to shipping implants.

>Supposedly the shippers are refusing to ship them. . .

>I think it's something political. They don't want Dr.

>Blais checking them!

>

>Doesn't make sense because they're well packaged and

>blood is shipped all the time!

>

>Rogene

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It's actually a violation to send any potentially contaminated items without

closely adhering to the proper packaging and shipping requirements -

universal precautions set by OSHA and the Postal Service. You may have

noticed that you will always be asked in the Post Office if your parcel

contains any such items - anything liquid, fragile, perishable, or

potentially hazardous - This is by no means limited to explanted breast

implants. It even includes dry ice, batteries, hair sprays, cleaning

products...... All human blood and body fluids are shipped as if they are

potentially hazardous. There is - and should be - a restrictive shipping

procedure in place. May people on this list say that their inplants were

" infected " ........

Sherry

Re: Re: one more thing

> ,

>

> Hopefully someone can jump in with a first hand

> account. . . One of our ladies wanted to ship her

> implants to Dr. Blais, but the people who ship them

> wouldn't allow it. FedEx? USPS? I don't know.

>

> You might find out more by calling Dr. Feng's office.

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

> a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>

>

[Guest guest]

THAT makes more sense. There are no black helicopters whirling overhead on

this issue.... Thanks,

Sherry

Re: Re: one more thing

The real problem is that Dr. Blais is so busy that it often takes a

year to get results, so many people are not shipping them to him anymore.

Lynda

At 10:23 PM 6/12/2006, you wrote:

>Rogene,

>Can you expand on this a bit? Do you think that the shippers won't

>accept them even if we ship them ourselves? Are they stopping it at

>the border....not allowing them to enter Canada? Has Dr. Kolb had

>problems getting them to him?

>

>

>

> >

> > ,

> >

> > It wasn't all Dr. Feng's office . . . Something has

> > been going on in regards to shipping implants.

> > Supposedly the shippers are refusing to ship them. . .

> > I think it's something political. They don't want Dr.

> > Blais checking them!

> >

> > Doesn't make sense because they're well packaged and

> > blood is shipped all the time!

> >

> > Rogene

> >

>

>

Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

" Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

http://.shutterfly.com/action/

[Guest guest]

Donna,

How long ago and have you received a report? We all love Dr. Blais,

so last I heard he was overworked.

Lynda

At 10:19 PM 6/12/2006, you wrote:

>I just had mine sent to Dr. Blias, no problems for me having this

>done. They just asked me do you want them checked by Dr. Blias. I

>said, Yes and signed a paper and they did the rest for me. So that

>is really weird to hear that is going on.

>

>Donna

>

[Guest guest]

Donna,

not from Dr. Blais. no.

On 6/12/06, BSBanshee1@... <BSBanshee1@...> wrote:

,

I hear it takes him 2 months for the test results. Have you heard a time on your implants or received anything yet?

Donna

[Guest guest]

I performed surgery in operating rooms all over the world excluding The

Orient. I never saw any such conspiracy.

They ARE hazardous waste, by definition. All infectious materials,

contaminated biologicals and radioactive wastes are REGULATED - standard -

medical waste. ANY infected pathology specimens - ANYTHING infected that is

removed from the body during surgery - are handled, stored, processed or

disposed of in accordance with LAW.

At the risk of being flamed or banned, I must say that it does NOT serve any

of you to remain in this physician bashing mode! To blame surgeons for all

your ills and to convince one another that physicians are evil and will do

anything at all in order to receive money does NOT serve your well being at

all! In addition, it does not present yourselves in a good light. It is SO

irrational and exaggerated that it reduces your credibility such that,

ultimately, you are doing your cause a tremendous disservice.

Sherry

Re: Re: one more thing

>

>All this surprises me b/c I just paid to have mine shipped to Dr.

>Blais from Dr. Kolb's office! Knowone said anything to me!

>

>

>

>

>On 6/12/06, Rogene S <<mailto:saxony01@...>saxony01@...> wrote:

>

>,

>

>It wasn't all Dr. Feng's office . . . Something has

>been going on in regards to shipping implants.

>Supposedly the shippers are refusing to ship them. . .

>I think it's something political. They don't want Dr.

>Blais checking them!

>

>Doesn't make sense because they're well packaged and

>blood is shipped all the time!

>

>Rogene

>

>

>

Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

" Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

http://.shutterfly.com/action/

[Guest guest]

Believe me, , the collected info. we have from thousands of

women tell us that many physicians are not there to serve OUR best

interests. I think you are brainwashed by your training. We have

had many, many negative experiences, and we are not bashing all

doctors, just the ones who deserve it.

They did try to keep us from shipping implants across the Canadian

border, to Pierre Blais in particular. I know this for a fact.

You come across as incredibly naive about this whole issue, I have

been here since 1991 and I can tell you that many doctors are there

for the almighty dollar, and whether or not we are ill does not seem

to phase them.

Lynda

At 12:14 AM 6/13/2006, you wrote:

>I performed surgery in operating rooms all over the world excluding The

>Orient. I never saw any such conspiracy.

>

>They ARE hazardous waste, by definition. All infectious materials,

>contaminated biologicals and radioactive wastes are REGULATED - standard -

>medical waste. ANY infected pathology specimens - ANYTHING infected that is

>removed from the body during surgery - are handled, stored, processed or

>disposed of in accordance with LAW.

>

>At the risk of being flamed or banned, I must say that it does NOT serve any

>of you to remain in this physician bashing mode! To blame surgeons for all

>your ills and to convince one another that physicians are evil and will do

>anything at all in order to receive money does NOT serve your well being at

>all! In addition, it does not present yourselves in a good light. It is SO

>irrational and exaggerated that it reduces your credibility such that,

>ultimately, you are doing your cause a tremendous disservice.

>Sherry

>

> Re: Re: one more thing

> >

> >All this surprises me b/c I just paid to have mine shipped to Dr.

> >Blais from Dr. Kolb's office! Knowone said anything to me!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >On 6/12/06, Rogene S

> <<mailto:saxony01@...><mailto:saxony01%40>saxony01@...>

> wrote:

> >

> >,

> >

> >It wasn't all Dr. Feng's office . . . Something has

> >been going on in regards to shipping implants.

> >Supposedly the shippers are refusing to ship them. . .

> >I think it's something political. They don't want Dr.

> >Blais checking them!

> >

> >Doesn't make sense because they're well packaged and

> >blood is shipped all the time!

> >

> >Rogene

> >

> >

> >

>

>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

>licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

>health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

>Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

>happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

>Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

><http://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://.shutterfly.co\

m/action/

>

>

[Guest guest]

Standards were adhered to, it was the doctors trying to block the

investigation of implants that caused the problem. They called

removed silicone implants toxic waste. It was quite a debacle for

about 6 months, then they had to back off, because if they are toxic

waste when they came out, what were they in the body. That shut them

up and then implants were able to be shipped again. I think it was

UPS and FedEx that we had problems with for about 6 months.

Lynda

At 11:12 PM 6/12/2006, you wrote:

>It's actually a violation to send any potentially contaminated items without

>closely adhering to the proper packaging and shipping requirements -

>universal precautions set by OSHA and the Postal Service. You may have

>noticed that you will always be asked in the Post Office if your parcel

>contains any such items - anything liquid, fragile, perishable, or

>potentially hazardous - This is by no means limited to explanted breast

>implants. It even includes dry ice, batteries, hair sprays, cleaning

>products...... All human blood and body fluids are shipped as if they are

>potentially hazardous. There is - and should be - a restrictive shipping

>procedure in place. May people on this list say that their inplants were

> " infected " ........

>Sherry

>

> Re: Re: one more thing

>

> > ,

> >

> > Hopefully someone can jump in with a first hand

> > account. . . One of our ladies wanted to ship her

> > implants to Dr. Blais, but the people who ship them

> > wouldn't allow it. FedEx? USPS? I don't know.

> >

> > You might find out more by calling Dr. Feng's office.

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> > licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> > health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

> > a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> > two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> >

>

<http://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://.shutterfly.com\

/action/

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Having never been implanted myself, I do not have the emotional issues

regarding implants that most members do on this list. Despite this, I still

have a negative opinion regarding most MD's, not because they are money

hungry necessarily, but because they do not treat the human body, they treat

disease after it occurs. You will find that a lot of women here prefer

natural medicine to allopathic medicine, not because they are crazy, but

because it works. Perhaps you should open your eyes to the other side.

Kenda

> I performed surgery in operating rooms all over the world excluding The

> Orient. I never saw any such conspiracy.

>

> They ARE hazardous waste, by definition. All infectious materials,

> contaminated biologicals and radioactive wastes are REGULATED - standard -

> medical waste. ANY infected pathology specimens - ANYTHING infected that is

> removed from the body during surgery - are handled, stored, processed or

> disposed of in accordance with LAW.

>

> At the risk of being flamed or banned, I must say that it does NOT serve any

> of you to remain in this physician bashing mode! To blame surgeons for all

> your ills and to convince one another that physicians are evil and will do

> anything at all in order to receive money does NOT serve your well being at

> all! In addition, it does not present yourselves in a good light. It is SO

> irrational and exaggerated that it reduces your credibility such that,

> ultimately, you are doing your cause a tremendous disservice.

> Sherry

>

> Re: Re: one more thing

>>

>> All this surprises me b/c I just paid to have mine shipped to Dr.

>> Blais from Dr. Kolb's office! Knowone said anything to me!

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> On 6/12/06, Rogene S <<mailto:saxony01@...>saxony01@...> wrote:

>>

>> ,

>>

>> It wasn't all Dr. Feng's office . . . Something has

>> been going on in regards to shipping implants.

>> Supposedly the shippers are refusing to ship them. . .

>> I think it's something political. They don't want Dr.

>> Blais checking them!

>>

>> Doesn't make sense because they're well packaged and

>> blood is shipped all the time!

>>

>> Rogene

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>

>

[Guest guest]

Donna,

That makes sense because the capsules are sent too . .

.. Please let us know what you find out!

Rogene

--- BSBanshee1@... wrote:

> Rogene,

>

> It was explained to me that if you don't send them

> by Thursday of the week,

> they can't do it because of the Canada delivery

> address. I guess implants have

> to arrive in a timely manner. That is why at Dr.

> Kolb's office I had to have

> surgery before Thursday. I don't know if that is

> the reason. Like if it is

> Friday they won't make it in time. I guess maybe

> they have to stay in a

> refrigerator??????? I don't know, I may call Dr.

> Kolb's office and ask because

> know the question has my curiosity going. We will

> have to get to the bottom of

> the question you now that for sure.

>

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

This problem came back up sometime this past year . .

.. It was from one of our recommended doctors. The time

period could have been a factor.

Rogene

--- Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

> Twas not a political force, the doctors simply tried

> to block them by

> calling them toxic waste. I was around at the time,

> and believe me,

> it was totally political and all because of the

> almighty

> dollar. They did not want anyone saying that these

> implants were bad.

>

> That was many years ago, it simply is not a problem

> anymore.

>

> Lynda

>

>

> At 10:45 PM 6/12/2006, you wrote:

>

> >The conspiracy theory is not terribly

> believable.... Sorry for not

> >being supportive but I just don't believe that any

> political force

> >is interfering with getting implants into the US

> Mail.

> > Sherry

> > Re: Re: one more thing

> >

> >All this surprises me b/c I just paid to have mine

> shipped to Dr.

> >Blais from Dr. Kolb's office! Knowone said

> anything to me!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >On 6/12/06, Rogene S

> <<mailto:saxony01@...>saxony01@...>

> wrote:

> >

> >,

> >

> >It wasn't all Dr. Feng's office . . . Something has

> >been going on in regards to shipping implants.

> >Supposedly the shippers are refusing to ship them.

> . .

> >I think it's something political. They don't want

> Dr.

> >Blais checking them!

> >

> >Doesn't make sense because they're well packaged

> and

> >blood is shipped all the time!

> >

> >Rogene

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I know it is something political. However, I was extremely discouraged after talking to Dr. Blais office also. For all the restrictions with shipping it seemed odd that the woman I talked acted like Dr. Blais was overworked and underpressure also. I was sick and just wanted them out. I guess I really didn't care what was floating in my implants. I am a little curious, but not enough to stress over. Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote: ,It wasn't all Dr. Feng's office . . .

Something hasbeen going on in regards to shipping implants.Supposedly the shippers are refusing to ship them. . .I think it's something political. They don't want Dr.Blais checking them!Doesn't make sense because they're well packaged andblood is shipped all the time!Rogene __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I'll be happy to as soon as someone shows me scientific literature....

Sherry

Re: Re: one more thing

>>

>> All this surprises me b/c I just paid to have mine shipped to Dr.

>> Blais from Dr. Kolb's office! Knowone said anything to me!

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> On 6/12/06, Rogene S <<mailto:saxony01@...>saxony01@...>

>> wrote:

>>

>> ,

>>

>> It wasn't all Dr. Feng's office . . . Something has

>> been going on in regards to shipping implants.

>> Supposedly the shippers are refusing to ship them. . .

>> I think it's something political. They don't want Dr.

>> Blais checking them!

>>

>> Doesn't make sense because they're well packaged and

>> blood is shipped all the time!

>>

>> Rogene

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

> a

> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>

>

[Guest guest]

You DO have to tell them if asked unless you want to go to prison for

commiting a felony!

Sherry

Re: Re: one more thing

14 years ago these companies tried to block shipment to Dr. Blais,

there is absolutely no reason now why they cannot be shipped, the

problem is that Dr. Blais is overloaded and just cannot get them done

these days. Women are reporting that they cannot get their reports

for a very long time.

You don't have to ever tell FedEx or anyone else what is in a packet,

so there is absolutely no excuse for them to not be able to be shipped.

Lynda

At 10:47 PM 6/12/2006, you wrote:

>,

>

>Hopefully someone can jump in with a first hand

>account. . . One of our ladies wanted to ship her

>implants to Dr. Blais, but the people who ship them

>wouldn't allow it. FedEx? USPS? I don't know.

>

>You might find out more by calling Dr. Feng's office.

>

>Rogene

>

>

Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

" Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

http://.shutterfly.com/action/

[Guest guest]

I am not naive. I AM a physician, I have been ill from implants and I see it

very differently than you see it. I do, however, see The Placebo Effect at

play.

Sherry

Re: Re: one more thing

> >

> >All this surprises me b/c I just paid to have mine shipped to Dr.

> >Blais from Dr. Kolb's office! Knowone said anything to me!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >On 6/12/06, Rogene S

> <<mailto:saxony01@...><mailto:saxony01%40>saxony01@...>

> wrote:

> >

> >,

> >

> >It wasn't all Dr. Feng's office . . . Something has

> >been going on in regards to shipping implants.

> >Supposedly the shippers are refusing to ship them. . .

> >I think it's something political. They don't want Dr.

> >Blais checking them!

> >

> >Doesn't make sense because they're well packaged and

> >blood is shipped all the time!

> >

> >Rogene

> >

> >

> >

>

>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

>licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

>health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

>Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

>a

>happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

>Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

><http://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://.shutterfly.co\

m/action/

>

>

[Guest guest]

They ARE, by definition, hazardous waste products as are a greaty many items

from the operating room! There was NO conspiracy whereby physicians " tried

to block the investigation " in the way that you describe.

Sherry

Re: Re: one more thing

>

> > ,

> >

> > Hopefully someone can jump in with a first hand

> > account. . . One of our ladies wanted to ship her

> > implants to Dr. Blais, but the people who ship them

> > wouldn't allow it. FedEx? USPS? I don't know.

> >

> > You might find out more by calling Dr. Feng's office.

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> > licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> > health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead

> > you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to

> > live

> > a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> > two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> >

>

<http://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://.shutterfly.com\

/action/

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Sherry,

You can call it conspiracy theory or what ever you choose. I know for a fact and I have it on paper that my ex-plastic surgeon not only lied to me and to my husband's face when he knew I had a silicone rupture. But then he threw my implants away in order to destroy any evidence. The topper of it all was that he could see that each time I saw him I was getting worse and was sick. He only cared about 1 thing COVERING HIS BUTT! Where is the oath in this story of "Do no harm". He screwed me big time. Do I hate all doctors no. Do I hate my ex plastic surgeon NO. But I do have the right to pity him. God keeps reminding me that he will reap what he sows.

We have a right to express our feelings here about doctors. Especially if they have harmed us and didn't even have the courage to tell us. Doctor bashing no. Truth yes!!!

Penni

Re: Re: one more thing>> >> All this surprises me b/c I just paid to have mine shipped to Dr.>> Blais from Dr. Kolb's office! Knowone said anything to me!>> >> >> >> >> On 6/12/06, Rogene S <<mailto:saxony01 >saxony01 > wrote:>> >> ,>> >> It wasn't all Dr. Feng's office . . . Something has>> been going on in regards to shipping implants.>> Supposedly the shippers are refusing to ship them. . .>> I think it's something political. They don't want Dr.>> Blais checking them!>> >> Doesn't make sense because they're well packaged and>> blood is shipped all the time!>> >> Rogene>> >> >> > > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by> licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed> health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.> > "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a> happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> > See our photos website! Enter "implants" for access at this link:> http://.shutterfly.com/action/> >

[Guest guest]

Sherry,

Ask Dr. Kolb for scientific evidence. She has mountains of documents in her office that cover everything.

Penni

Re: Re: one more thing>>>> All this surprises me b/c I just paid to have mine shipped to Dr.>> Blais from Dr. Kolb's office! Knowone said anything to me!>>>> >>>>>> On 6/12/06, Rogene S <<mailto:saxony01 >saxony01 > >> wrote:>>>> ,>>>> It wasn't all Dr. Feng's office . . . Something has>> been going on in regards to shipping implants.>> Supposedly the shippers are refusing to ship them. . .>> I think it's something political. They don't want Dr.>> Blais checking them!>>>> Doesn't make sense because they're well packaged and>> blood is shipped all the time!>>>> Rogene>>>>>>>>>>>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by> licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed> health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.>> "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live > a> happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)>> See our photos website! Enter "implants" for access at this link:> http://.shutterfly.com/action/>>

[Guest guest]

Donna & ,

I haven't heard a word yet either.

Penni

Re: Re: one more thing

Donna,

not from Dr. Blais. no.

On 6/12/06, BSBanshee1@... <BSBanshee1@...> wrote:

,

I hear it takes him 2 months for the test results. Have you heard a time on your implants or received anything yet?

Donna

[Guest guest]

Sherry,

I really do appreciate the knowledge you bring to this forum.

However, I continue to be stumped in how you word some of your

posts. I thought we had already addressed the fact that this forum

is for those of us who are sick from implants and our comments about

physicians reflect the personal feelings and personal experiences of

those that post. They....We... are entitled to those feelings and

entitled to be able to voice them without the " hand slap " and

ridicule from you. You may not be aware that this is how " it comes

across " but for one that has no real issue with the doctors at this

time...it is how it comes across to me.

I know of no other way to say this. I suppose...I simply do not

understand your position on things considering how sick you are

yourself.

You too are entitled to express your feelings and opinions but

don't you think we have been round and round " about the doctor "

issue enough???? I mean it is almost as if you lay " in wait " so that

you can put a " zinger " out there...like with this prison comment.

Do you really think that was helpful? And please don't tell me you

were trying to let everyone know what " the law is " . I think most of

us are aware of shipping requirements for biological material or bio

hazards.

I am sorry you are sick. What are your plans to get better?

>

> >,

> >

> >Hopefully someone can jump in with a first hand

> >account. . . One of our ladies wanted to ship her

> >implants to Dr. Blais, but the people who ship them

> >wouldn't allow it. FedEx? USPS? I don't know.

> >

> >You might find out more by calling Dr. Feng's office.

> >

> >Rogene

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

by

> licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how

to live a

> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

two-time

> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

>

>

[Guest guest]

---Rogene, this is a concern to me as I'm having my surgery soon and

want to send them away to Dr. Blais. Do you know how much it costs

to have them analyzed?

Love & Healing,

Sunny

In , Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

>

> ,

>

> Hopefully someone can jump in with a first hand

> account. . . One of our ladies wanted to ship her

> implants to Dr. Blais, but the people who ship them

> wouldn't allow it. FedEx? USPS? I don't know.

>

> You might find out more by calling Dr. Feng's office.

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

---Thanks, Lynda, for the information. I believe we're getting

closer to the truth being exposed. There's just too

much " coincidental " evidence piling up!

Love,

Sunny

In , Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

>

> Standards were adhered to, it was the doctors trying to block the

> investigation of implants that caused the problem. They called

> removed silicone implants toxic waste. It was quite a debacle for

> about 6 months, then they had to back off, because if they are

toxic

> waste when they came out, what were they in the body. That shut

them

> up and then implants were able to be shipped again. I think it was

> UPS and FedEx that we had problems with for about 6 months.

>

> Lynda

>

>

> At 11:12 PM 6/12/2006, you wrote:

>

> >It's actually a violation to send any potentially contaminated

items without

> >closely adhering to the proper packaging and shipping

requirements -

> >universal precautions set by OSHA and the Postal Service. You may

have

> >noticed that you will always be asked in the Post Office if your

parcel

> >contains any such items - anything liquid, fragile, perishable, or

> >potentially hazardous - This is by no means limited to explanted

breast

> >implants. It even includes dry ice, batteries, hair sprays,

cleaning

> >products...... All human blood and body fluids are shipped as if

they are

> >potentially hazardous. There is - and should be - a restrictive

shipping

> >procedure in place. May people on this list say that their

inplants were

> > " infected " ........

> >Sherry

> >

> > Re: Re: one more thing

> >

> > > ,

> > >

> > > Hopefully someone can jump in with a first hand

> > > account. . . One of our ladies wanted to ship her

> > > implants to Dr. Blais, but the people who ship them

> > > wouldn't allow it. FedEx? USPS? I don't know.

> > >

> > > You might find out more by calling Dr. Feng's office.

> > >

> > > Rogene

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by

> > > licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> > > health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment.

> > >

> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

how to live

> > > a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> > > two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >

> > > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this

link:

> > >

> >

<http://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://.shut

terfly.com/action/

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

---Lynda, thank you for speaking on this. I am totally behind you

with support and my own experiences as well. As a holistic

practitioner, I have worked with women who have been abused by many

doctors, also other types of trust-oriented professionals. I agree

with you that we are not bashing, but exposing the truth. I've been

trained to work " with " medical personnel and have an attitude of

learning from others, as I teach others, as well. We all have our

expertise and I encourage everyone to be open-minded AND loving.

I love all you ladies here! Thanks for all your love & support!!

Sunny

In , Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

>

> Believe me, , the collected info. we have from thousands of

> women tell us that many physicians are not there to serve OUR best

> interests. I think you are brainwashed by your training. We have

> had many, many negative experiences, and we are not bashing all

> doctors, just the ones who deserve it.

>

> They did try to keep us from shipping implants across the Canadian

> border, to Pierre Blais in particular. I know this for a fact.

>

> You come across as incredibly naive about this whole issue, I have

> been here since 1991 and I can tell you that many doctors are there

> for the almighty dollar, and whether or not we are ill does not

seem

> to phase them.

>

> Lynda

>

>

>

> At 12:14 AM 6/13/2006, you wrote:

>

> >I performed surgery in operating rooms all over the world

excluding The

> >Orient. I never saw any such conspiracy.

> >

> >They ARE hazardous waste, by definition. All infectious materials,

> >contaminated biologicals and radioactive wastes are REGULATED -

standard -

> >medical waste. ANY infected pathology specimens - ANYTHING

infected that is

> >removed from the body during surgery - are handled, stored,

processed or

> >disposed of in accordance with LAW.

> >

> >At the risk of being flamed or banned, I must say that it does NOT

serve any

> >of you to remain in this physician bashing mode! To blame surgeons

for all

> >your ills and to convince one another that physicians are evil and

will do

> >anything at all in order to receive money does NOT serve your well

being at

> >all! In addition, it does not present yourselves in a good light.

It is SO

> >irrational and exaggerated that it reduces your credibility such

that,

> >ultimately, you are doing your cause a tremendous disservice.

> >Sherry

> >

> > Re: Re: one more thing

> > >

> > >All this surprises me b/c I just paid to have mine shipped to Dr.

> > >Blais from Dr. Kolb's office! Knowone said anything to me!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >On 6/12/06, Rogene S

> > <<mailto:saxony01@...><mailto:saxony01%40>saxony01@...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >,

> > >

> > >It wasn't all Dr. Feng's office . . . Something has

> > >been going on in regards to shipping implants.

> > >Supposedly the shippers are refusing to ship them. . .

> > >I think it's something political. They don't want Dr.

> > >Blais checking them!

> > >

> > >Doesn't make sense because they're well packaged and

> > >blood is shipped all the time!

> > >

> > >Rogene

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

by

> >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> >health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how

to live a

> >happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

two-time

> >Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

>

><http://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://.shu

tterfly.com/action/

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

---Sherry, I encourage you to look for your scientific data from Dr.

Kolb's office and leave this support site for emotional support - not

constant controversy and criticism. I, for one, am very sick right

now and working hard to keep a positive attitude and would love to

hear one message from you to support me on my healing journey.

Please look into your heart for a minute, and feel your feelings, and

express them here to us. Not intellectual thoughts most of the time.

It's tough to do sometimes, but we really DO need to share in a safe,

emotional environment. I feel protective of this site, as I know

these women have worked very hard to keep it going all these years.

It's personally, a life-saver for me right now, as I've been feeling

very isolated mentally, with my brain symptoms, as well.

Love in Healing,

Sunny

In , " Penni Pitre " <penniquilts@...>

wrote:

>

> Sherry,

>

> Ask Dr. Kolb for scientific evidence. She has mountains of

documents in her office that cover everything.

> Penni

> Re: Re: one more thing

> >>

> >> All this surprises me b/c I just paid to have mine shipped to

Dr.

> >> Blais from Dr. Kolb's office! Knowone said anything to me!

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> On 6/12/06, Rogene S <<mailto:saxony01@...>saxony01@...>

> >> wrote:

> >>

> >> ,

> >>

> >> It wasn't all Dr. Feng's office . . . Something has

> >> been going on in regards to shipping implants.

> >> Supposedly the shippers are refusing to ship them. . .

> >> I think it's something political. They don't want Dr.

> >> Blais checking them!

> >>

> >> Doesn't make sense because they're well packaged and

> >> blood is shipped all the time!

> >>

> >> Rogene

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by

> > licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> > health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

how to live

> > a

> > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing, two-time

> > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this

link:

> > http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> >

> >