Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 You could always request a blood test to see if you are immune or not. Odrade wrote: Thanks for all your input about chicken pox and my pregnancy. I have left a message for my midwife but she hasn't gotten back to me yet. I have had them twice already, and have been exposed to chicken pox at least 10 other times in my life and haven't gotten them again so who knows. Nothing I can really do about it now - just have to wait and see what happens and hope for the best!! BTW, Hi Nanci! I just "talked" to you privately about your vaccine group today. =) ~Odrade~ (aka ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 Hello, Everyone in my family has had the chicken pox, nothing bad ever happened. My son was about 18 months old when he got it, and my baby was only 3 or so months old. She never caught it. I never even tried to seperate them. I would be more concerned about you getting them as an adult, but as far as your kids, if they get it, great! Life long immunity without the fear of a vaccine reaction. Just make sure you know enough about the chicken pox so you know not to give things like Aspirin, which can cause secondary problems, and secondary problems are usually what is so bad about normal illnesses. Hope this helps! M from Michigan On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 20:22:22 -0400, Vaccinationsegroups wrote: > So, the chicken pox discussion got me thinking, and I decided to call MY > mom and see if I'd ever had the disease (or the vax - as if it'd do any > good:-)) The answer was no, no pox or vax for me. I have 2 young > daughters - 2 and 5 - who Have never had the disease and are completely > un-vaxed for chicken pox, AND I'm 7 months pregnant with kiddo #3. The > concern is that my 5 year old starts co-operative preschool in 2 weeks; > if she were to be exposed either to a recently vaxed child OR one with > the actual disease, what would be the risks to unborn babe and mama > (me!)? My midwife happened to drop by this afternoon and seemed > relatively unconcerned - her reasoning being that increased immune system > function during pregnancy would protect me. This was nice to hear, but > I'm still a little worried. Does anyone have experience dealing with pox > as an adult? - I'm 26, and hear the disease can be pretty viscous the > older you get. Also, it would be next to impossible to " quarantine " > myself from new, breast feeding babe IF I were to come down with it; any > info on immunity passing through breast milk would be much appreciated! > Whew! Hope I haven't confused you all with my rambling..... Thanks in > advance, Gretchen > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 Gretchen, Homeopathy definately could help. I just don't know conditions regarding pregnancy. I would encourage you to visit a homeopath. Gretchen L wrote: > > So, the chicken pox discussion got me thinking, and I decided to call MY > mom and see if I'd ever had the disease (or the vax - as if it'd do any > good:-)) The answer was no, no pox or vax for me. I have 2 young > daughters - 2 and 5 - who Have never had the disease and are completely > un-vaxed for chicken pox, AND I'm 7 months pregnant with kiddo #3. The > concern is that my 5 year old starts co-operative preschool in 2 weeks; > if she were to be exposed either to a recently vaxed child OR one with > the actual disease, what would be the risks to unborn babe and mama > (me!)? My midwife happened to drop by this afternoon and seemed > relatively unconcerned - her reasoning being that increased immune system > function during pregnancy would protect me. This was nice to hear, but > I'm still a little worried. Does anyone have experience dealing with pox > as an adult? - I'm 26, and hear the disease can be pretty viscous the > older you get. Also, it would be next to impossible to " quarantine " > myself from new, breast feeding babe IF I were to come down with it; any > info on immunity passing through breast milk would be much appreciated! > Whew! Hope I haven't confused you all with my rambling..... Thanks in > advance, Gretchen > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > -- @... *************************************************************** Any information obtained here is not to be construed as medical OR legal advice. The decision to vaccinate and how you implement that decision is yours and yours alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2000 Report Share Posted August 26, 2000 In a message dated 8/25/2000 8:29:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, brofu@... writes: << Does anyone have experience dealing with pox as an adult? - I'm 26, >> My husband had chicken pox at 27. At the time I was about 34 weeks pregnant. I had already had CP though as a child, so the midwife wasn't concerned at all. It was pretty nasty. But, we just tried to keep him as comfy as we could. and we got through it. You should see our new baby picts though. He's got little scabs and things all over his face. What a memory! I was just picturing me going into labor early and him not being able to be there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2000 Report Share Posted August 28, 2000 gretchen, i too never had cp as a kid, i was exposed many times as a child and as an adult. i was exposed early on in my first pregnancy by a niece and then just before elliott was born i was exposed by a girl i worked with--fortunately, no problems. then, when elliott was 4, he started going to preschool 2 times a week and got cp--well, so did i at 34 years old. it was very uncomfortable, had high fever, was totally " out of it " for 2 days, but then was fine--i did get an infection in my sores as they healed [probably from laying in my bed/pajamas for 3 days constantly putting calendula etc. on sores to relieve--was just plain dirty ( i know this doesn't go along with the germ theory discussion we've been having--but old mindsets are hard to change and i'm still learning with that one!! )] anyway, other than that i was fine, no long term problems or anything. and as far as being more/less susceptible while pregnant--i dunno, i felt great during both my pregnancies, no colds, flu etc. i ate well, took care of myself and i felt like i had better immunity to things in general during my pregnancies. now, the fact that your son will be starting preschool, will give him much greater exposure to things, but doesn't mean he'll get anything--or that you will either. as far as i know, if you did get cp after baby was born and were BFing, you would pass immunity on. but, i could be wrong about that, maybe someone else can help there. brigit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2000 Report Share Posted September 9, 2000 Hi , my son just got over coxsackie. I too thought it was chix pox at first. But then I was told by the mother of a little boy that he was around that he had been exposed to the virus. It started out as little poxes or pimples on his butt. There was only one vesicle. Then he got it on his tongue. Poor little guy didn't want to eat for almost 2 days, so I made jello, pudding, oatmeal, really soft stuff that he really didn't need to chew. He got one vesicle on one thumb and one on each of four toes of both feet. So most of it was really on his butt. Nanci -----Original It may not have been chicken pox......my son had something similar and it was hand, foot, mouth disease....aka.coxsackie virus He got it on his legs, and feet. Some get a lot on their hands and/or mouth. in Toronto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 , I had chicken pox as a child, one and only one time. I have been exposed to it as an adult when my own kids had it and had no reactivation. However, I did not show signs of CFIDS until several years after that, just the FMS since childhood. -Theresa >I know that there are other viruses that can become re-activated in CFS, >like mono and herpes. But I haven't heard anyone mention Chicken Pox. >Any comments? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2000 Report Share Posted November 26, 2000 My mother just purchased this doll for my daughter over the weekend. My daughter happens to really love her! Lynne B. 8/30/96 & 9/10/00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2001 Report Share Posted February 16, 2001 Hi, My son got chicken pox twice ... he's not vaccinated, and he was at a daycare at the time. They still have it " go around " even though the vax is available (I think it is fairly new and I don't know how many of the other children were vaxed against it). So, I think cp is " available " ! The first time it was very mild, less than 20 spots and virtually no fever. The second time he " got the rest " , he had over 400 spots and a higher fever. Still, he coped with the fever very well, seeming to understand that this was something that his body NEEDED to do. I gave no medications other than a cool cloth, and he came through it with NO problems. I know he is stronger for it and he knows that he can cope with illness when it comes and has confidence in his own body. I don't think it is anything to be afraid of, and I think seeking it out is not a bad idea ... though it will probably find your son anyway even if you don't. Hope this helps, in Calgary, Canada chicken pox I had the chicken pox as a child and came out of it with no more problems than a small scar or two, but I know adults who got it & had much more serious complications. My concern is that if my son doesn't have the vaccine and all his playmates do, the chances are that he won't get it as a child. I know there are some parents who try to infect their children with cp to prevent them from getting it as an adult but I'm not sure about that method either. Anyone else worried about this? Am I being paranoid? I just wish he could catch it, or not catch it, naturally like when I was a kid. sigh... Thanks, Jen mom to Andy, 5/1/00 - no vax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2001 Report Share Posted February 16, 2001 My daughter had no lack of oppritunities for getting cp. And she was generous with sharing it wit all her friends ;-). If one of your kids friends get it just schedule a playdate and they will all have a chance to spread the love around. All they have to do is come into contact with an infected person or an object the infected person has touched in the last 24 hours (thats what someone told me but I am not sure if I buy that). If your child starts getting older where cp cold bve more serious you can have him vaxed then. Most people will need a booster then anyway if they had the shots as children. Does that make sense? ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2001 Report Share Posted February 16, 2001 >>I had the chicken pox as a child and came out of it with no more problems than a small scar or two, but I know adults who got it & had much more serious complications. My concern is that if my son doesn't have the vaccine and all his playmates do, the chances are that he won't get it as a child. I know there are some parents who try to infect their children with cp to prevent them from getting it as an adult but I'm not sure about that method either. Anyone else worried about this? Am I being paranoid? I just wish he could catch it, or not catch it, naturally like when I was a kid. sigh...<< That's the problem b/c now that vaccinations are coming out for things like chicken pox and now that the majority of kids are vaccinated, a lot of the diseases are moving to the adult population where they shouldn't be. You aren't alone in your concern. I worry about things like rubella or measles for example that my child probably would have caught as a child b/f vaccines became so prevalant. But now I worry she will get those diseases as an adolescent or adult where there could be more complications as a result. So in a way by most children being vaccinated now we as parents are put in a difficult spot b/c even if normally we wouldn't be afraid of our children getting these diseases now we are because they might get them as adults KWIM? I still won't have my daughter vaccinated for chicken pox or rubella or measles, but it still worries me she may get those things as an adult. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2001 Report Share Posted February 16, 2001 We can't say for certain how long the vaccinations protect for (if in fact they do) anyway- so it seems to me that even children who are vaccinated face the same risks as adults... Lori Re: chicken pox > >>I had the chicken pox as a child and came out of it with no more problems > than a small scar or two, but I know adults who got it & had much more > serious complications. My concern is that if my son doesn't have the vaccine > and all his playmates do, the chances are that he won't get it as a child. I > know there are some parents who try to infect their children with cp to > prevent them from getting it as an adult but I'm not sure about that method > either. Anyone else worried about this? Am I being paranoid? I just wish he > could catch it, or not catch it, naturally like when I was a kid. sigh...<< > > That's the problem b/c now that vaccinations are coming out for things like > chicken pox and now that the majority of kids are vaccinated, a lot of the > diseases are moving to the adult population where they shouldn't be. You > aren't alone in your concern. I worry about things like rubella or measles > for example that my child probably would have caught as a child b/f vaccines > became so prevalant. But now I worry she will get those diseases as an > adolescent or adult where there could be more complications as a result. So > in a way by most children being vaccinated now we as parents are put in a > difficult spot b/c even if normally we wouldn't be afraid of our children > getting these diseases now we are because they might get them as adults > KWIM? I still won't have my daughter vaccinated for chicken pox or rubella > or measles, but it still worries me she may get those things as an adult. > > :-) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2001 Report Share Posted February 17, 2001 In a message dated 2/16/01 10:52:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, jenwilson@... writes: << Anyone else worried about this? Am I being paranoid? I just wish he could catch it, or not catch it, naturally like when I was a kid. sigh... Thanks, Jen >> He will probably get the vaccine version of cp which is much more nasty than the natural one. Just another reason why they will push the vaccine. Look through health dept. stats for various diseases.Ohio lists everythingf BUT cp,but franklin county seems to have the most of any of the diseases(measles,pertussis,mumps,hib) so I bet they have a lot of cp.Maybe a lot of amish in that area. Anyway my point is yes it will be harder to expose your child to cp.You will just have to look/take your child to areas with low vax rates.Or perhaps set up a list of parents in your area interested in cp parties,so you all can contact each other when one child comes down with it. sara in ohio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2001 Report Share Posted February 17, 2001 wendy, i think you might have something there--i was exposed to chicken pox many times (via other siblings/friends, etc.) as a child and also exposed to them as an adult (via young co-workers and nieces and nephews), but i never got chicken pox until my son (3 years old at the time) caught them--most likely from kids at day care--who were just vaxxed. (he went 2 days a week for a couple of hours, my attempt to let him be around other kids, as he was an only child and we had no other playmates for him--looking back, never should have let him, he only learned bad habits and learned that some kids are mean!!) anyway, it was when the chicken pox vax was new and all the kids in his class got their shot--except him and 2 others. interestingly enough, he got cp right then and after he got over them--so did i. at the age of 33--i have often wondered if there is a difference between catching the wild version of an illness and catching it via the "medical" man-altered version--thru a vax. but you idea about what will our kids now get as adults makes me think about this incident... brigit, in albany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2001 Report Share Posted February 18, 2001 >>We can't say for certain how long the vaccinations protect for (if in fact they do) anyway- so it seems to me that even children who are vaccinated face the same risks as adults... Lori<< I totally agree, what I was trying to say is that by pushing vaccinations now all people, vacced or unvacced are in a worse situation b/c they aren't likely to contract a disease as a child which used to be the norm, but now are more likely to get a disease as an adult when the complications could be worse. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2001 Report Share Posted February 23, 2001 Dr. Len: Thanks for your information. I really appreciated it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 Sounds like the first had cow pox and the second just got my brain just flew away and waved bye-bye dufus at me!!!!!!!! Doctors are so dumb they don't even know that chickens carry chicken pox!!! You have to inoculate them. (If you do that sort of thing) That's how they got the name. Ellen ladylumbee@... I believe that what is right is not always popular and what is popular is not always right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2001 Report Share Posted June 19, 2001 Don't forget that Vitamin A is also supposed to be an antiviral. There's a Vitamin Therapy thread at www.mothering.com in the Vaccine Forum Kathleen In a message dated 6/20/2001 4:09:35 AM Central Daylight Time, dougtrac@... writes: > Well, I noticed that my 6 yr old son had some spots on his neck and tummy, > looked closer and, yep, it's chicken pox. 4 yr old daughter has a couple of > spots and imagine the 2 yr old will have some in a few days! n has a > bit of a fever and is seeming tired, not much appetite. The others seem ok > so far. I've given them vit C, and we'll have to do the bath thing and maybe > some placebos because n especially, is acting very pitiful! I probably > won't give them anything else for now unless anyone has any great > suggestions out there. I usually let the illness run it's course. > > H. in Utah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2001 Report Share Posted June 20, 2001 TREATMENT— • Drink freshly made juices, with added protein powder and brewer's yeast. Drink vegetable broth. • When the fever drops and appetite returns, give mashed bananas and fresh raw applesauce. Use a light fat-free, sugar-free, diet. You can give vitamin C to bowel tolerance. • Catnip tea, with a little molasses, is good during the fever. If the child is over two, catnip tea enemas will help reduce the fever. • The only real concern with childhood chickenpox is pock scarring. This may be minimized by several simple baths and applications. And, of course, do not scratch. • To avoid scratching the pocks, keep the child's nails short, to minimize spreading of the infection. Have the child wear mittens or gloves, to avoid scratching—especially at night. Instead of scratching, apply pressure to the area. Bathe him often. • Relieve itching with calamine lotion, moist baking soda, or starch baths. Vitamin E oil can be applied directly to each papule. • A deep, warm, 15-minute bath at the onset of the disease will help the pox develop more rapidly. Keep the head cool. Do not let him become chilled. • Each day, give a tepid bath, followed by a change of clothes and linens. Protect against chilling while bathing and other times. Chickenpox pneumonia can develop! • Oatmeal baths are soothing, because they are alkaline. Put 1 pound of uncooked oatmeal (or 1 heaping cup of uncooked rolled oats, ground fine, in a blender) in a bag made of 2 thicknesses of old sheeting. Soften it with hot water and then float it in the bathtub or hang it, so the faucet will flow through it. You can use the bag to gently sponge the body. Pat dry when finished; do not rub. • If needed, mix 1 level teaspoon of salt with 1 pint (2 cups) of water, and gargle with it. • Avoid constipation. • If you contract chickenpox as an adult, go on a fasting program of fruit and vegetable juices, interspersed with light meals. • Keep the infected child away from newborn infants, elderly people, and pregnant women. They may not have had chickenpox before. • Do not send the child back to school until all lesions have finished being crusted. • Antibiotics and corticosteroids do not help in any way, and should not be given. • Do not give aspirin! About 10% of Reye's syndrome (which see) cases occur after chickenpox, as a result of aspirin dosages. Reye's can cause irreversible coma or death. >From: <dougtrac@...> >Reply-Vaccinations ><vaccinations > >Subject: chicken pox >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:52:28 -0600 > >Well, I noticed that my 6 yr old son had some spots on his neck and tummy, >looked closer and, yep, it's chicken pox. 4 yr old daughter has a couple of >spots and imagine the 2 yr old will have some in a few days! n has a >bit of a fever and is seeming tired, not much appetite. The others seem ok >so far. I've given them vit C, and we'll have to do the bath thing and >maybe >some placebos because n especially, is acting very pitiful! I probably >won't give them anything else for now unless anyone has any great >suggestions out there. I usually let the illness run it's course. > > H. in Utah > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2001 Report Share Posted June 20, 2001 Can we come over, ?!?! Michele Well, I noticed that my 6 yr old son had some spots on his neck and tummy, looked closer and, yep, it's chicken pox. 4 yr old daughter has a couple of spots and imagine the 2 yr old will have some in a few days! n has a bit of a fever and is seeming tired, not much appetite. The others seem ok so far. I've given them vit C, and we'll have to do the bath thing and maybe some placebos because n especially, is acting very pitiful! I probably won't give them anything else for now unless anyone has any great suggestions out there. I usually let the illness run it's course. H. in Utah .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2001 Report Share Posted June 20, 2001 Sure! I actually have a friend coming over so her kids will, hopefully, get it. She wants them to get it now while they are fairly young. Maybe I should advertise in the paper. Oh wait- the health department will probably come and declare an official outbreak of chicken pox-heaven forbid!! H. in Utah > From: " Michele Welsh " <jjcwelsh@...> > Reply-Vaccinations > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:41:22 -0500 > <Vaccinations > > Subject: RE: chicken pox > > Can we come over, ?!?! > > Michele > > > Well, I noticed that my 6 yr old son had some spots on his neck and tummy, > looked closer and, yep, it's chicken pox. 4 yr old daughter has a couple of > spots and imagine the 2 yr old will have some in a few days! n has a > bit of a fever and is seeming tired, not much appetite. The others seem ok > so far. I've given them vit C, and we'll have to do the bath thing and maybe > some placebos because n especially, is acting very pitiful! I probably > won't give them anything else for now unless anyone has any great > suggestions out there. I usually let the illness run it's course. > > H. in Utah > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 I saw a new chicken pox vaccine TV ad today. Just one more way to scare parents into spending money. I hope the parents are smart enough to laugh at the scary commercial and remember there own experiences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2001 Report Share Posted June 27, 2001 Doubtful, I imagine this is how measles was turned from a benign childhood disease into a " killer " . Besides, I already see the beginnings of this same conversion with chickenpox. Some moms actually fear chickenpox now! Can you believe it?! Kathleen In a message dated 6/27/2001 12:39:12 AM Central Daylight Time, JILBAIT@... writes: > I saw a new chicken pox vaccine TV ad today. Just one more way to scare > parents into spending money. I hope the parents are smart enough to laugh > at > the scary commercial and remember there own experiences. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2001 Report Share Posted June 27, 2001 OMG! OMG! OMG!! I HATE this commercial!! Everytime it comes on, dh thiks I have gone nuts, cos I start freaking out and ranting at the tv!! Think he's getting used to it now tho!! LOL!! ~Donna...central Illinois (otherwise known as Hell on earth) --- JILBAIT@... wrote: > I saw a new chicken pox vaccine TV ad today. Just > one more way to scare > parents into spending money. I hope the parents are > smart enough to laugh at > the scary commercial and remember there own > experiences. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 My friend just informed her ped that she wasn't vaccinating, and was given a slick, glossy booklet (courtesy of our friends at Merck) featuring the crying teddy bear, sad because many children die of Chicken Pox every year, and at the end is a smiling teddy bear with a band aid, because now that he has had the shot, he is not afraid of dying from the chicken pox. Pluh-ease!!!!! When I said I was no longer vaccinating my 2 year old, Varivax was the only one they tried to talk me into. I was shocked. They didn't even mention the MMR. Yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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