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Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 04:24:49 -0000

From: angel_lts@...

Subject: [ ] New Support Group

I decided to start my own support group, because of the 35 years of

experience with epilepsy. From surgery after surgery, Ketogenic Diet,

VNS, different vitamins.....

Please come and join my new epilepsy group and share in your stories.

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Subject: [ ] Genotoxicity of phenobarbital

Genotoxicity of phenobarbital

New data raise some questions about the general assumption that

phenobarbital, a widely-used anti-epileptic drug, is a non-genotoxic

carcinogen in laboratory animals. When administered orally to mice

at 1.2 mg/kg bw/day for up to 4 months, it induced chromosome damage

and micronuclei in bone marrow cells, as well as sperm-head

abnormalities (Biswas S.J. et al. Assessment of the genotoxic and

cytotoxic potential of an anti-epileptic drug, phenobarbital, in

mice: a time course study. Mutation Research, 2004, 563, 1-11).

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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:18:50 -0600

From: " Don Vance " <dvance@...>

< >

Subject: Re: [ ] Body Balance, original concern

First thing, thanks for not bashing me for seeking an answer to my question.

Secondly, the elements found in the assay are organic, not inorganic, and are

found in nature, they are not " put in " as Mark had assumed.

Commend him all you want, but the fact is he lied about the product and his

research is the point, not mine or ocean, an outright lie is the point. Why I

guess, we will never know, since I have been trying for about 3 weeks now to

find out why. The mine in Emery Utah he mentioned makes Liquid Life not

BodyBalance, and the reason this is now brought up is because he said

BodyBalance was made in a mine in Utah (a lie). You are missing the point. How

can someone say they researched something, and come up with an absolutely wrong

answer, then not even have a care that they lied, and just shrug it off, like

it's a daily practice. I would think that if someone who does real research,

would re-examine their findings when someone tells them they are completely

wrong. That would be someone who really seeks the truth about a subject in

question! The reason for the overworked discussion about this is Mark will not

recant his testimony about his research, instead he just says " wh!

atever " !

That's quite a scientific terminology isn't it? " whatever " It really

impresses me too! Don

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Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 4:12 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Body Balance, original concern

From reading all the posts, my main concern with this product has nothing to

do with its origins, be it by sea or by mine. The origins to me are a null

point...the ingredient list is a valid point of concern and I commend Mark for

raising it to our attention to be on the look out for ingredients that

potentially can cause more harm long term, even in miniscule amounts,

especially to a

child's developing brain, nervous system and body.

My concerns are if the product truly contains even small amounts of Aluminum,

Mercury, Arsenic and Cadmium. I definately wouldn't consciously use a product

that potentially has even trace amounts of mercury as my son & I are already

dealing with mercury toxicity.

I have reservations about this product and am leery when it is endorsed by

someone with a vested interest.

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Subject: Re: [ ]

-how do you go to edit my membership?

thx

-- angel_lts@... wrote:

>

> , You need to go to Edit my membership and that

> will delete you

> off the group.

> I hope you are not leaving because of the stuff that

> is going on here.

> But I dont blame you.

> It is ridiculous that it hasnt stopped yet.

>

>

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> > Please delete my name from the

> > , thanks for the info

> and

> > help, I will join up again sometime in the future.

> If

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Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:07:52 EST

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Subject: [ ] Calcium/magnesium for Seizures

Hi Lori,

Trace minerals Calcium and Magnesium, are essential for conducting nerve

impulses as well a building bone structure.When there is insufficient Calcium

circulating in the blood, your body pulls the calcium out of your bones and

teeth, making them more brittle and the person more nervous. Dr. Balch,MD

in Prescription for Natural Healing recommendes Calcium 1500 mg and Magnesium

700 mg.Since this is for an adult you might want to decrease it a little, but

try to maintain a 2 to 1 ratio of Calcium to Magnesium. He recommends the

Magnesium be taken between meals on an empty stomach with apple cider vinegar

or betaine hydrochloride, which helps with digestion.When I was a child 50

years ago. the only doctor who ever recommended nutrition to me for epilepsy

was a very old doctor who recommended eating beets because they were high in

magnesium.

Magnesium and Calcium are best obtained from real foods, hopefully organic.

Foods High in Magnesiun are Sunflower seeds,peanut butter,,garbanzo

beans,watermelon, apples,potato, dark leafy green vegetables such as swiss

chard,kale

and spinach.Many of these are also high in Calcium, nature made it that

way-eat it.

arnold

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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 07:44:36 EST

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cures for cancer , ,

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Subject: [ ] Thermography for Breast Cancer Detection

Message: 20

Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 08:30:37 -0500

From: " mitchelcohen@... " <mitchelcohen@...>

Subject: Another Response: Re: Medical X-rays: What Doctors Don't Tell You

Another Response to CT:

from " saferhabitats " <stachy911@...>

Subject: Go Thermography: Reply to Medical X-rays: What Doctors

Don't Tell You:

" Using Thermography to Detect Breast Cancer then Homotoxicology to

Prevent It " was the title of Dr. Shelton's talk. Digital Infrared Thermal

Imaging, DITI, is a non-invasive test. This means there is no radiation,

body contact and is a painless procedure. It takes the body's

temperature then turns it into a colored image. In a thermagram, one

sees the physiological activity.

He showed a slide of a normal thermogram. A mass takes 20 to 30

million cells. Thermography can detect breast cancer a year and a half

before a mammogram. Dr. Shelton referred to 60 Minutes article where

50,000 women were told they had micro calcifications (read from their

mammogram). 40,000 of these were totally normal. Since 2001, Dr.

Shelton's office has done 1000 Thermograms. Two to three percent

of these show dental lesions. Dr. Shelton showed several slides

including a tumor, a benign tumor and full body. In the full body

thermogram, the cold spots over T1 and T2 relate to an autoimmune

disease. He also showed slides that detailed patients diagnosed

with Fibromyalgia, Classic T4 syndrome and Myofascial Trigger

points.Many patients get a thermogram for a second opinion.

Even though there are limited numberes of medical offices offering

thermography and insurance companies usually don't cover it,is

relatively inexpensive (locally under $150 for breast exam),accurate,

medically recoqnized, non-invasive,requires two tests taken three

months apart, quick results (read by experts throughout the US via

internet)and can be used to determine numerous other problems such

as dental,structural inbalances, circulation problems with full body

scan.

Equipment cost is in the $30,000 range.It is not portable due to having

to maintain a precise low temperature.

Even though thermal imaging originated over 50 years ago and has

been proven a valid and accurate testing methodolgy, it has not been

accepted uniformly throughout the field.

Why go with mammography that often requires biopsies and then turns

out to be a normal, benign calcified cyst. What happened to the

Hippocratic Oath and Do no Harm?

B. Olinsky, M.S.,

Environmental Specialist