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Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 01:52:25 EST

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Subject: Re: [ ] Digest Number 1700

Barb

I do not know about this diet, but we make yoghurt here. I let it culture at

least 24 hours to assure complete conversion of the milk sugars, then let it

sit overnight before eating it.

You can try to culture cream or half and half. Remember, the bacteria need

sugar in order to replicate and turn dairy into yoghurt.

Did you do a web search for the directions?

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> Message: 1

> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 20:02:55 -0700

> From: Barb Hunte <bhunte@...>

> Subject: Specific Carb Diet--Question

>

> Hello All,

>

> Does anyone have the directions for the Specific Carb Diet YOGURT---the

> library has a three week wait for the book, I've gone to two book stores

> with no luck, and now I've got the flu and can't keep hunting.

>

> Can I make it with cream because my little one is on a ketogenic diet? It

> would help her oil count.

>

> How much should I serve a 6 year old each day?

>

> She's been dairy free since 4 months of age, should she be able to tolerate

> this yogurt, will it help recolonize her gut?

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> Thank you,

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Subject: Re: [ ] Re: s Reiter clinic?

Hi there- I'd just like to issue a small warning

regarding Donna s. She may be wonderful, and

she may have a lot of help to offer people, but that

was not our experience. She gave us some incorect

information, she was INTENSE and seemed to have a bit

of an agenda. Our first experience with her was good

and actually helpful, but the second time around, VERY

bad experience. Wishing you all the best, but just

thought this may be helpful. my best-

--- mcpitza <mcpitza@...> wrote:

>

> I can vouch for Donna s being wonderful.

> However my son was too

> immature to try her program. She works with

> Rieter M.D. who is

> one of the most respected Neurologists in the

> country so that says

> something too. There used to be a man in this group

> - I think his

> name was Lamar ( I know his first name began

> with an L) He was

> a patient there and became seizure free. He no

> longer seems to post.

> I guess he has gotten over epilepsy and gotten on

> with his life. It's

> nice to think there will come a time in everyone

> here's life where

> seizures will just be a footnote and not a focal

> point.

>

> MIchael

>

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somiarea19 , ,

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Subject: [ ] Seizure drugs and bone problems

Hiya all

I just found this report and know a number of our athletes are on seizure

drugs. Cod liver oil, sunsine and exercise help with vitamin D to keep bones

healthy.

I will talk to Charlie's neurologist about this as soon as possible.

Happy holidays to you all

Charlie's Mom

mjh

> From: Foxhillers@...

> Foxhillers@... ; zll@...

> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 4:34 PM

> Subject: AEDs and bone problems

>

> 7?OpenDocument & id=48dde4a73e09a969852568880078c249 & c=Epilepsy & count=10

>

> AES: Fracture Risk Increases With Antiepileptics, Especially in Women

>

> By Bonnie Darves

>

> NEW ORLEANS, LA -- December 13, 2004 -- Bone disorders, especially low bone

> mineral density (BMD), are especially prevalent in patients with epilepsy

> and often goes be unrecognized, according to study results presented here

> December 7th during the American Epilespy Society Annual Meeting.

>

> Although both men and women who take antiepilepctic drugs are at higher risk

> for osteoporosis and fracture, incidence is especially high among older

> women, said Jouko Isojarvi, MD, PhD, researcher, Utrecht Institute for

> Pharmaceutical Sciences, Utrecht, The Netherlands.

>

> " The risk of fracture is almost twice as high in patients with epilepsy than

> in those who don't have [the disorder], and there is a striking increase in

> bone disorders and fracture rates among females after age 50, " Dr. Isojarvi

> said.

>

> Allowing that menopause is likely a contributing factor to low BMD in this

> population, he said that antiepileptic drugs clearly exacerbate the hormonal

> effect on bone loss. As such, clinicians should be on the lookout for bone

> disorders and encourage patients with low BMD to seek appropriate treatment,

> he said.

>

> The large multicentre study involved an extensive review of patient records

> from a United Kingdom primary care database that included 40,485 patients

> diagnosed with epilepsy and 80,970 controls. Patients were included in the

> epilepsy cohort if their records indicated previous use of antiepilepctics

> or a diagnosis of epilepsy. The study covered records of patients treated

> from 1990 to 1998.

>

> The researchers found 3,489 fractures among the epilepsy patients, whose

> mean age was 39.1 years, for an incidence of 241.9 per 10,000 person

> years -- nearly twice that found in the control group.

>

> The incidence density ratio of 1.96 declined slightly, to 1.89, when

> researchers adjusted for age and gender, Dr. Isojarvi said. In women with

> epilepsy who were older than 50 years, fracture rates, especially in the hip

> and femur, were more than 20% higher than in non-epilepsy control,

> suggesting that antiepilepctic drugs might be a major contributing factor.

>

> [Presentation title: " A Population Based Cohort Study on the Incidence of

> Fractures Among Patients With Epilepsy. " Abstract F.03]

>

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somiarea19 , ,

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Subject: [ ] Seizure drugs and bone problems

Hiya all

I just found this report and know a number of our athletes are on seizure

drugs. Cod liver oil, sunsine and exercise help with vitamin D to keep bones

healthy.

I will talk to Charlie's neurologist about this as soon as possible.

Happy holidays to you all

Charlie's Mom

mjh

> From: Foxhillers@...

> Foxhillers@... ; zll@...

> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 4:34 PM

> Subject: AEDs and bone problems

>

> 7?OpenDocument & id=48dde4a73e09a969852568880078c249 & c=Epilepsy & count=10

>

> AES: Fracture Risk Increases With Antiepileptics, Especially in Women

>

> By Bonnie Darves

>

> NEW ORLEANS, LA -- December 13, 2004 -- Bone disorders, especially low bone

> mineral density (BMD), are especially prevalent in patients with epilepsy

> and often goes be unrecognized, according to study results presented here

> December 7th during the American Epilespy Society Annual Meeting.

>

> Although both men and women who take antiepilepctic drugs are at higher risk

> for osteoporosis and fracture, incidence is especially high among older

> women, said Jouko Isojarvi, MD, PhD, researcher, Utrecht Institute for

> Pharmaceutical Sciences, Utrecht, The Netherlands.

>

> " The risk of fracture is almost twice as high in patients with epilepsy than

> in those who don't have [the disorder], and there is a striking increase in

> bone disorders and fracture rates among females after age 50, " Dr. Isojarvi

> said.

>

> Allowing that menopause is likely a contributing factor to low BMD in this

> population, he said that antiepileptic drugs clearly exacerbate the hormonal

> effect on bone loss. As such, clinicians should be on the lookout for bone

> disorders and encourage patients with low BMD to seek appropriate treatment,

> he said.

>

> The large multicentre study involved an extensive review of patient records

> from a United Kingdom primary care database that included 40,485 patients

> diagnosed with epilepsy and 80,970 controls. Patients were included in the

> epilepsy cohort if their records indicated previous use of antiepilepctics

> or a diagnosis of epilepsy. The study covered records of patients treated

> from 1990 to 1998.

>

> The researchers found 3,489 fractures among the epilepsy patients, whose

> mean age was 39.1 years, for an incidence of 241.9 per 10,000 person

> years -- nearly twice that found in the control group.

>

> The incidence density ratio of 1.96 declined slightly, to 1.89, when

> researchers adjusted for age and gender, Dr. Isojarvi said. In women with

> epilepsy who were older than 50 years, fracture rates, especially in the hip

> and femur, were more than 20% higher than in non-epilepsy control,

> suggesting that antiepilepctic drugs might be a major contributing factor.

>

> [Presentation title: " A Population Based Cohort Study on the Incidence of

> Fractures Among Patients With Epilepsy. " Abstract F.03]

>

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Subject: Re: [ ] Stevia

,

Call me old fashioned, but I like to use regular store bough granulated sugar.

My family has been using it for many many years and they've been doing just

fine. Only the ones who've changed to equal or other types of sugar have been

having problems so I'm sticking to my regular sugar and that's that.

I find that everytime they come out with a different more improved type of sugar

that's supposed to be better for you, turns out to be the worst thing you could

put into your body and eventually is taken off the shelves, but not so with

reguard old fashioned granulated sugar, but this is just my opinion.

Grace

angel_lts@... wrote:

Stevia how safe is it? I am always afraid to start new things, afraid

of a seizure will happen. I would not take aspertame, equal... because

they are toxic....

But very cautious of stevia, but have not found anything bad about it.

I would like to buy it. How do I buy it(powder, liquid) and where do I

buy? How expensive? ANd is there a table of the diffence for usage for

regular sugar and stevia, in case I am going to bake with it??

Thanks

-epilepsy approach

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