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Hi Pam, your story was very touching. The loss of a husband must be one of the

hardest things we may have to experience in life. It is also sad when you try

to share something that is so healthy for you with others and they don't want to

use it in their own life. (Hopefully you will have better luck with getting

your friends and relatives interested in k-tea this time around.) I just wanted

to say welcome as well, you've joined a very friendly group who do take their

health seriously, I will send you some information through your email address,

since things may have changed a little since you first started making the tea

years ago. God bless, Jeani

kombucha tea@...: pmwatt@...: Tue, 17 Jun

2008 10:59:49 +0000Subject: New member

HI,My name is Pam, and I live in the foothills of western North Carolina,

USA.YEARS ago, a friend of mine at work brought in this ugly gelatinous blob and

said it was a Kombucha baby. She began to tell us about the benefits she

personally had seen in her health as a result of drinking the tea. Out of a

department of 19, I was the only one brave enough to try it, and discovered for

myself the difference in how much energy I had, and how much better I felt!

(although I hadn't realized I felt BAD!)I brewed the tea a couple of times a

week, printed off everything I could find about it, and went on a personal

mission to get all my friends and family to try it.....unfortunately, not a

single one was brave enough to get past the ugly blob...lolTwo years ago my

husband died at the age of 52 with pancreatic cancer. We have 5 children and at

the time of his death 3 are still at home. I was plunged into such despair by

the sudden loss of my mate, partner and best friend, that most things in my

life, except the children, suffered great negligence, and my SCOBY shriveled up

and died after months of just sitting on the counter with no attention.Time and

prayer has healed me, and given me back my life, and I am anxiously looking

forward to once again reaping the benefits of useing Kombucha. More than ever I

need the energy, stamina and good health it offers, to keep myself strong and

healthy...remember those three kids?....well they sap my energy most days, and I

have come to realize how much I NEED to be drinking the Kombucha tea.I am

wondering if anyne in NC, or close by might be willing to share a baby and a

little starter tea to get me going? I would be happy to purchase it and pay for

shipping.Thank you for allowing me to join the group and I look forward to

re-learning and growing stronger physically, and emotionally as part of this

community.Thank you so much,Pam

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Thank you Pam! Let's give it a few days and see if anyone a little

closer comes forth, (I have mailed some folks off the files list of

people willing to share)...and if not I will certainly contact you

again..

You ALL are so friendly and warm...this already feels like exactly

where I need to be...thank you ALL for your responses, and your

welcome.

Pam

>

>

> In a message dated 6/17/2008 6:15:21 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

> pmwatt@... writes:

>

> I am wondering if anyne in NC, or close by might be willing to

share

> a baby and a little starter tea to get me going? I would be happy

> to purchase it and pay for shipping.

>

>

>

> Hi Pam,

>

> While I am not that close, I do have some Scoby's available. If

you cannot

> get anyone closer than ID, please email me privately and I will be

happy to

> send you one. These are not babies, but great big huge strong

grown up

> offspring of my original. Should give you nice Kombucha.

>

> Pam in ID

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Pam, I am very sorry for your loss. I am also a new member, but I did lose my

dad to

pancratic cancer and I am living with lupus. I know this sounds like a soapbox,

but I just

went to a new rheumatologist and he seemed amazed that I was diagnosed with

lupus. It is

no slight on the specialists that have seen me, but a real testament to the

strength of a

healthy diet fortified with KT, rest and stress reduction.

I am really sorry about your loss. Get strong and good luck finding a scoby.

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Your not alone anymore and we definately understand how you feel cause we already been there and done that.Check the files hon and get used to this disease.Start with the file questions you should ask your doctor and a letter that is for family and friends so they can understand your illness better.

Gail

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Thanks Gaby, I will try to stay in the moment until I see the Dr. again which is six weeks away. Seems like a long time to me but it is the only one in this area. Every one of you that has written has been like a god send to me. I could do nothing but cry before but now I know a lot of what to expect. Thanks again.

[Hepatitis CSupportG roupForDummies] new memberHepatitis CSupportGr oupForDummiesDate: Sunday, June 29, 2008, 10:39 AM

Hello everyone. I am new to the group and was just diagnosed three days ago. I have been very scared and did not know what to do so I am grateful the group is here to help. Thanks again

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welcome to the group! im a newbie to the group too, but there are so many great people here, and so much info. just dont overload yourself with research too quickly and from too many sources, and if you find conflicting advice ask someone here. when i found out i was going on tx i read everything, and there is alot of outdated and unreliable stuff out there (i know on the internet, who knew?!) and i really freaked myself out and got very depressed.please stay educated, but dont overwhelm yourself. reneeI'm not superstitious, but I am a little stitious. www.myspace.com/arbeez

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No problem, , I have been there and done the treatment. I did cry several times while on tx... but don't give up. .don't be upset. we are all here for you to support you. :)

From: Mcguire <breezyday08>Subject: [Hepatitis CSupportG roupForDummies] new memberHepatitis CSupportGr oupForDummiesDate: Sunday, June 29, 2008, 10:39 AM

Hello everyone. I am new to the group and was just diagnosed three days ago. I have been very scared and did not know what to do so I am grateful the group is here to help. Thanks again

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No problem, , I have been there and done the treatment. I did cry several times while on tx... but don't give up. .don't be upset. we are all here for you to support you. :)

From: Mcguire <breezyday08>Subject: [Hepatitis CSupportG roupForDummies] new memberHepatitis CSupportGr oupForDummiesDate: Sunday, June 29, 2008, 10:39 AM

Hello everyone. I am new to the group and was just diagnosed three days ago. I have been very scared and did not know what to do so I am grateful the group is here to help. Thanks again

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Hi Val and everyone,

 

My name is and my daughter is almost 5.  She has been fevering since she

was two, around the time she went from in-home daycare to a more center oriented

place.  We figured that the fever and recurring sickness was from exposure to

new germs.  It wasn't until 6 months ago that she was diagnosed with . 

 

Her fevers range from 105-106 every 2-3 weeks with a very sore throat, mouth

sores, headache and during the last week she has been complaining of a very sore

neck, sore to the touch even.. The pediatrician believes that the neck

pain/soreness is likely from her lymph nodes being swollen and because of the

recurring sickness they never get a chance to go back to normal.

 

We are awaiting a consultation with an ENT later this month after seeing the

article a few weeks ago on the cover of the Heath section of the Washington

Post, which was mentioned in another post by someone.  The link is here -

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/20/AR2008062002501.\

html

 

We used predisone for a while to quell the fever but found that the fevers would

just return in about a week, so we stopped using the Orapred tablets and now

just help her while the fevering persists.

 

Thanks so much for including me in this group.  It's been enlightening and

reassuring.  All the best to all of you.

 

Thanks,

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Hi Val and everyone,

 

My name is and my daughter is almost 5.  She has been fevering since she

was two, around the time she went from in-home daycare to a more center oriented

place.  We figured that the fever and recurring sickness was from exposure to

new germs.  It wasn't until 6 months ago that she was diagnosed with . 

 

Her fevers range from 105-106 every 2-3 weeks with a very sore throat, mouth

sores, headache and during the last week she has been complaining of a very sore

neck, sore to the touch even.. The pediatrician believes that the neck

pain/soreness is likely from her lymph nodes being swollen and because of the

recurring sickness they never get a chance to go back to normal.

 

We are awaiting a consultation with an ENT later this month after seeing the

article a few weeks ago on the cover of the Heath section of the Washington

Post, which was mentioned in another post by someone.  The link is here -

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/20/AR2008062002501.\

html

 

We used predisone for a while to quell the fever but found that the fevers would

just return in about a week, so we stopped using the Orapred tablets and now

just help her while the fevering persists.

 

Thanks so much for including me in this group.  It's been enlightening and

reassuring.  All the best to all of you.

 

Thanks,

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Hi eI too live in the UK and welcome you to our little group.I would up your COQ10 immediately and stop taking the Statin straight away.Pamelakrisross50 <krisross50@...> wrote: Hi everyone, I am new to this group and live in the UK. I had a stroke 3 months ago and was put on simvastatin, I am looking to discontinue this and wonder if it is safe to just stop taking them. I started taking 100mg Co Q 10 as soon as I was put on the statin. I am trawling through all the posts on this group and finding it

all very informative, it is slow going though as my eyes were damaged by the stroke. Many thanks for any information. Cheers, e

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e, although some in this group disagree, I'm with Pamela on this, that you're better off not putting another dose of statins into your system. I went from 80 mg. daily for two whole years to 0, and if the poison hadn't robbed me of the ability to think, I'd have done it much, much sooner.pamela sharp <pamela.sharp@...> wrote: Hi eI too live in the UK and welcome you to our little group.I would up your COQ10 immediately and stop taking the Statin straight away.Pamelakrisross50

<krisross50 > wrote: Hi everyone, I am new to this group and live in the UK. I had a stroke 3 months ago and was put on simvastatin, I am looking to discontinue this and wonder if it is safe to just stop taking them.I started taking 100mg Co Q 10 as soon as I was put on the statin.I am trawling through all the posts on this group and finding it all very informative, it is slow going though as my eyes were damaged by the stroke.Many thanks for any information.Cheers,e -----

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Hello e,

Statins DO NOT PREVENT CORONARY HEART DISEASE. The drug companies

admit this in their adds. Statins are not a preventative, they are a

risk reducer. For people like you have had a major coronary event

(secondary prevention group) statins will only reduce your risk by 4%

over a 5 year period. This means that in order for you to experience a

lousy 4% benefit, you have to take the drug AND SUFFER FROM ITS TOXIC

SIDE EFFECTS for 5 years. ITS NOT WORTH IT!!! Save yourself the

trouble. Take your CoQ10, Vitamin C, Omega 3 fish oil, magnesium

citrate instead and take good care with your recovery. phine

>

> Hi everyone, I am new to this group and live in the UK. I had a

> stroke 3 months ago and was put on simvastatin, I am looking to

> discontinue this and wonder if it is safe to just stop taking them.

>

> I started taking 100mg Co Q 10 as soon as I was put on the statin.

>

> I am trawling through all the posts on this group and finding it all

> very informative, it is slow going though as my eyes were damaged by

> the stroke.

>

> Many thanks for any information.

>

> Cheers,

>

> e

>

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Welcome e,You state you are somewhat visually impaired at present so hope that following will be read to you for your minds eye. Accordingly will be short on words. I was based in the UK for many years managing R & D with various posts in Warrington (Unilever) and prior to that up in the North at Littleborough (Akzo Nobel) and have only fond memories of my years there with the staff. My team is Manchester United and the Local free house served Tim . Suspect those full breakfasts and that wonderful aged cheddar from the north may have had something to do with my MI four years ago.Can I recommend that at this point in your recovery you send shout-out note to this Group for anyone who has had similar stroke history and note any

warning signs on statin poisoning from their perspective. Would be great information to digest during your recovery and maybe just may preclude some of the long lasting neurological effects most of us now enjoy on 24/7 basis.Best regards from Chicago,T/ new memberHi everyone, I am new to this group and live in the UK. I had a stroke 3 months ago and was put on simvastatin, I am looking to discontinue this and wonder if it is safe to just stop taking them. I started taking 100mg Co Q 10 as soon as I was put on the statin. I am trawling through all the posts on this group and finding it all very informative, it is slow going though as my eyes were damaged by the stroke. Many thanks for any information. Cheers, e

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Hi Pamela,

Have decided to stop taking the statin as of today! Thank you for your email, and I will

double my Co Q 10 intake along with other supplements recommended.

Many thanks,

e

Hi eI too live in the UK and welcome you to our little group.I would up your COQ10 immediately and stop taking the Statin straight away.Pamelakrisross50 <krisross50 (DOT) com> wrote:

Hi everyone, I am new to this group and live in the UK. I had a stroke 3 months ago and was put on simvastatin, I am looking to discontinue this and wonder if it is safe to just stop taking them.I started taking 100mg Co Q 10 as soon as I was put on the statin.I am trawling through all the posts on this group and finding it all very informative, it is slow going though as my eyes were damaged by the stroke.Many thanks for any information.Cheers,e

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Hi phine,

Thank you for your email, the only supplement I don't have that was on your list is the magnesium sulfate, off to the health food shop to get some tomorrow. Thank you too for all the information in your email.........

e

From: jlkinkona <josephine@...>Subject: Re: new memberLipitor Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 6:36 PM

Hello e,Statins DO NOT PREVENT CORONARY HEART DISEASE. The drug companiesadmit this in their adds. Statins are not a preventative, they are arisk reducer. For people like you have had a major coronary event(secondary prevention group) statins will only reduce your risk by 4%over a 5 year period. This means that in order for you to experience alousy 4% benefit, you have to take the drug AND SUFFER FROM ITS TOXICSIDE EFFECTS for 5 years. ITS NOT WORTH IT!!! Save yourself thetrouble. Take your CoQ10, Vitamin C, Omega 3 fish oil, magnesiumcitrate instead and take good care with your recovery. phine>> Hi everyone, I am new to this group and live in the UK. I had a > stroke 3 months ago and was put

on simvastatin, I am looking to > discontinue this and wonder if it is safe to just stop taking them.> > I started taking 100mg Co Q 10 as soon as I was put on the statin.> > I am trawling through all the posts on this group and finding it all > very informative, it is slow going though as my eyes were damaged by > the stroke.> > Many thanks for any information.> > Cheers,> > e>

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Hi Toe,

Thanks for your email, the support from this group has been great,

My eyesight is really only bad in my right eye, sort of cut off at the edge is the best way to describe it, annoying, but over the 3 months since my stroke I have got back the ability to read, not books or anything too long, but it's better than nothing. ;-)

I will write that email you suggest tomorrow.

Many thanks for your suggestion,

e

From: Toe Newman <yallethane@...>Subject: Re: new memberLipitor Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 9:17 PM

Welcome e,You state you are somewhat visually impaired at present so hope that following will be read to you for your minds eye. Accordingly will be short on words. I was based in the UK for many years managing R & D with various posts in Warrington (Unilever) and prior to that up in the North at Littleborough (Akzo Nobel) and have only fond memories of my years there with the staff. My team is Manchester United and the Local free house served Tim . Suspect those full breakfasts and that wonderful aged cheddar from the north may have had something to do with my MI four years ago.Can I recommend that at this point in your recovery you send shout-out note to this Group for anyone who has had similar stroke history and note any warning signs on statin poisoning from their perspective. Would be great information to digest during your recovery and maybe just may preclude some of the long

lasting neurological effects most of us now enjoy on 24/7 basis.Best regards from Chicago,T/

[TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] new member

Hi everyone, I am new to this group and live in the UK. I had a stroke 3 months ago and was put on simvastatin, I am looking to discontinue this and wonder if it is safe to just stop taking them.I started taking 100mg Co Q 10 as soon as I was put on the statin.I am trawling through all the posts on this group and finding it all very informative, it is slow going though as my eyes were damaged by the stroke.Many thanks for any information.Cheers,e

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Hi e,

Sorry to hear about your stroke. I also take simvastatin 20 mg. I have joint and muscle pain and I have been told by my doctors that I have to keep taking it. Best wishes. Bill

new member

Hi everyone, I am new to this group and live in the UK. I had a stroke 3 months ago and was put on simvastatin, I am looking to discontinue this and wonder if it is safe to just stop taking them.I started taking 100mg Co Q 10 as soon as I was put on the statin.I am trawling through all the posts on this group and finding it all very informative, it is slow going though as my eyes were damaged by the stroke.Many thanks for any information.Cheers,e

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Bill, Why do you have to keep taking the statin? Bobby

>

> Hi e,

> Sorry to hear about your stroke.  I also take simvastatin 20 mg. 

I have joint and muscle pain and I have been told by my doctors that

I have to keep taking it.  Best wishes.  Bill

>

>

>

> new member

>

>

> Hi everyone, I am new to this group and live in the UK. I had a

> stroke 3 months ago and was put on simvastatin, I am looking to

> discontinue this and wonder if it is safe to just stop taking them.

>

> I started taking 100mg Co Q 10 as soon as I was put on the statin.

>

> I am trawling through all the posts on this group and finding it

all

> very informative, it is slow going though as my eyes were damaged

by

> the stroke.

>

> Many thanks for any information.

>

> Cheers,

>

> e

>

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You tell your doctors you are no longer taking the statin. I did, my GP , and the two cardiologists at the hospital to whom I was referred. They laughed at the thought that my sciatica was caused by Crestor. I stopped the Crestor 5 years ago.From: bill morris <billybob5898@...>Subject: Re: new memberLipitor Date: Saturday, August 2, 2008, 7:25 AM

Hi e,

Sorry to hear about your stroke. I also take simvastatin 20 mg. I have joint and muscle pain and I have been told by my doctors that I have to keep taking it. Best wishes. Bill

[TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] new member

Hi everyone, I am new to this group and live in the UK. I had a stroke 3 months ago and was put on simvastatin, I am looking to discontinue this and wonder if it is safe to just stop taking them.I started taking 100mg Co Q 10 as soon as I was put on the statin.I am trawling through all the posts on this group and finding it all very informative, it is slow going though as my eyes were damaged by the stroke.Many thanks for any information.Cheers,e

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Hi e,

I know that people are having problems taking statins, myself included. But my adnice to you is to have a talk with your regular doctor before stopping any medication. I know that some people in the group would argue with me but I have to say it anyway. Each and every one of us are different. What works for some may harm others. And even though I have muscle and joint pain that is contributed to my medications I have been told by 4 different doctors that I need to take my medications. But I am different than most, I have some very rare heart problems. So there again I say we all are different. Most people cannot take the meds I take at the dosage that I have to take them. People I know who take some of the same meds and have problems and I take 2 to 3 times stronger and they do not see how I can do it. The amount they take knocks them out. Even different lab techs I know ask how

do I manage to get around taking what I am taking and at the strength I take it. I know that I am probably making some in the group made but I would rather make some made than not say something and something go wrong with your health. Best wishes.. Bill

From: Toe Newman <yallethane (DOT) com>Subject: Re: [TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] new memberTakingLipitorAndHat eItgroups (DOT) comDate: Friday, August 1, 2008, 9:17 PM

Welcome e,You state you are somewhat visually impaired at present so hope that following will be read to you for your minds eye. Accordingly will be short on words. I was based in the UK for many years managing R & D with various posts in Warrington (Unilever) and prior to that up in the North at Littleborough (Akzo Nobel) and have only fond memories of my years there with the staff. My team is Manchester United and the Local free house served Tim . Suspect those full breakfasts and that wonderful aged cheddar from the north may have had something to do with my MI four years ago.Can I recommend that at this point in your recovery you send shout-out note to this Group for anyone who has had similar stroke history and note any warning signs on statin poisoning from their perspective. Would be great information to digest during your recovery and maybe just may preclude some of the long

lasting neurological effects most of us now enjoy on 24/7 basis.Best regards from Chicago,T/

[TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] new member

Hi everyone, I am new to this group and live in the UK. I had a stroke 3 months ago and was put on simvastatin, I am looking to discontinue this and wonder if it is safe to just stop taking them.I started taking 100mg Co Q 10 as soon as I was put on the statin.I am trawling through all the posts on this group and finding it all very informative, it is slow going though as my eyes were damaged by the stroke.Many thanks for any information.Cheers,e

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Hi Bobby,

I wish I could tell you why. All I can say is I have seen 4 different doctors at 3 different places. Three doctors are cardio. and one is internal medicine. The internal medicine doctor is local to were I live and my family doctor. The one cardio, who saved my life when I had my 2 heart attacks, is in birmingham alabama. The other 2 cardio are at the HEART INSTITUTE at St. Hospital in nashville tennessee. So as you see they are all from different places. Best wishes. Bill

From: flyinresorts <flyinresorts@...>Subject: Re: new memberLipitor Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 10:06 PM

Bill, Why do you have to keep taking the statin? Bobby>> Hi e,> Sorry to hear about your stroke. I also take simvastatin 20 mg. I have joint and muscle pain and I have been told by my doctors that I have to keep taking it. Best wishes. Bill> > > > [TakingLipitorAndHa teIt] new member> > > Hi everyone, I am new to this group and live in the UK. I had a > stroke 3

months ago and was put on simvastatin, I am looking to > discontinue this and wonder if it is safe to just stop taking them.> > I started taking 100mg Co Q 10 as soon as I was put on the statin.> > I am trawling through all the posts on this group and finding it all > very informative, it is slow going though as my eyes were damaged by > the stroke.> > Many thanks for any information.> > Cheers,> > e>

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e,

Its magnesium CITRATE not sulfate.

That was a short list of supplements to take.

The longer list is here,

http://www.internetwks.com/owen/HeartCure.htm

Scroll to the middle of the page.

Take care,

phine

> >

> > Hi everyone, I am new to this group and live in the UK. I had a

> > stroke 3 months ago and was put on simvastatin, I am looking to

> > discontinue this and wonder if it is safe to just stop taking them.

> >

> > I started taking 100mg Co Q 10 as soon as I was put on the statin.

> >

> > I am trawling through all the posts on this group and finding it all

> > very informative, it is slow going though as my eyes were damaged by

> > the stroke.

> >

> > Many thanks for any information.

> >

> > Cheers,

> >

> > e

> >

>

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Hi Bill,

I guess you are really lucky to be able to tolerate those nasty statin

drugs the way you seem to do. The problem is that the drug is

marketed as working for everyone and not just for some. If the drug is

meant for some people, then the doctors should be very selective in

whom they give the drug to which they are clearly NOT!

You have muscle and joint pain which means that your statin drug IS

affecting your muscles. That would be ALL of your muscles including

your heart. BEWARE!!! Remember, the drug ads say that statins don't

prevent heart attacks or heart disease. Believe it. Taking your

statins will not prevent you from having a coronary event. All it will

do is lessen your risk by a lousy 4% over a 5 year period and cause

you to suffer from those nasty side effects. It is criminal for

doctors to know about these side effects and keep doling out the drug

and allow patients to suffer this way. phine

>

> Hi e,

> I know that people are having problems taking statins, myself

included. But my adnice to you is to have a talk with your regular

doctor before stopping any medication. I know that some people in the

group would argue with me but I have to say it anyway. Each and

every one of us are different. What works for some may harm others.

And even though I have muscle and joint pain that is contributed to my

medications I have been told by 4 different doctors that I need to

take my medications. But I am different than most, I have some very

rare heart problems. So there again I say we all are different. Most

people cannot take the meds I take at the dosage that I have to take

them. People I know who take some of the same meds and have problems

and I take 2 to 3 times stronger and they do not see how I can do it.

The amount they take knocks them out. Even different lab techs I know

ask how do I manage to get around taking what I am taking

> and at the strength I take it. I know that I am probably making

some in the group made but I would rather make some made than not say

something and something go wrong with your health. Best wishes.. Bill

>

>

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I'm so proud of you and believe me you will feel better. Pamelakristine franklin-ross <krisross50@...> wrote: Hi Pamela, Have decided to stop taking the statin as of today! Thank you for your email, and I will double my Co Q 10

intake along with other supplements recommended. Many thanks, e Hi eI too live in the UK and welcome you to our little group.I would up your COQ10 immediately and stop taking the Statin straight away.Pamelakrisross50 <krisross50 (DOT) com> wrote: Hi everyone, I am new to this group and live in the UK. I had a stroke 3 months ago and was put on simvastatin, I am looking to discontinue this and wonder if it is safe to just stop taking them.I started taking 100mg Co Q 10 as soon as I was put on the statin.I am trawling through all the posts on this group and finding it all very informative, it is slow going though

as my eyes were damaged by the stroke.Many thanks for any information.Cheers,e

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Hi ,

I am a big fan of food :) However the food I eat has no

preservatives, no enriched foods, salt or sugar except what is

naturally occurring in my fresh food diet. I got this great book

FILLED with liver friend foods that help your body deal with this

monster called Hep C. I have had my PhD nutritionist look at it and

my Mayo Doctor and all say its great and the proof is in my great

blood work etc. The name of the book is " The Liver Diet " by " Dr.

Cabot " . You can order it at any book store if they do not have

it on the shelf. Yummy foods!!!! I eat like a pig and gain no weight!

Because I am ESLD I have to eat small meals 6 times a day. I am

fighting this Dragon with Traditional medications and food only :)

The food thing is something I have done all my life. I never used

traditional medicine until this happened...never had to. I was always

healthly and never sick until the Dragon raised his ugly head in Dec

of 2007. They believe I showed no symptoms because I ate so well and

did not drink or do drugs. So I stayed healthy until ESLD!!

I looked and even tried a few of the alternative miracles and its all

a bunch of crappola. The vitamin supplements and diet should all be

fine tuned to your particular stage of disease and symptoms. I use

traditional Doctors and a PhD Nutritionist. For instance I retain

fluid (ascites) potassium, Iron and my ammonia levels are steadily

climbing. Based on that we have tweaked my diet in the following

ways: I can only eat foods that have not been enriched (loaded with

iron). I can only have 250 mg of salt a day to keep fluid at bay.

Most people can have 2000mg per day. My protein is a combination of

plant based protein's and chicken and fish only and I can only have

60 grams of it per day. This helps keep my ammonia levels down which

helps with the brain fog.

So yes it is VERY complicated and a good book with recipe's

for people with liver disease and a PhD nutrionist (not a regular

nutritionist) can help you sort it all out. Once you have the new

diet in place in time it will not be so complicated. Liver diets are

allot of veggies and cooking. I love spaghetti and make up a big

batch of salt free, preservative free sauce that I freeze. Finding a

spaghetti, linguine and shell pasta was difficult but eventually I

found some. I add shell fish or chicken and its very very good :) If

its in a bag, box, jar or can its most likely very bad for damaged

livers. I have found a few exceptions.

I ramble.... get the book and the PhD Nutritionist and it will make

living with the Dragon more bearable and learning how to eat healthy

a breeze. I know it has for me. I love to share recipes especially my

desert ones so if you ever need a good recipe just let me know I've

been eating like this for many many years and know allot about foods

that heal a sick body. NOT HERBS!!!! never ever take herbs with out

an experienced alternative Doctor on board!!!! Herbs are medicine and

I was told by my Shaman never to muck about with herbs as it can and

does cause bigger problems if used incorrectly. I am so far gone that

they cannot help me anymore.

>

> Hi. My name is and I have hep c for 20 years. I got it when

I

> was around 25. I am a little worried. after a 4 year lapse in blood

> testing, a current liver panel was pretty high and I feel very

weak.

> Can anyone give me some good info on diet? I was not paying

attention

> at all to my diet and I think I was really blowing it. I have a 8

day

> wait until I see the liver doctor and I want to eat right for that

> period to see if it affects any levels that they tested. Any good

> food/drink tips that they would sell in a regular grocery store?

> I have been looking on the net and it is a bit overwhelming. Is

> chicken o.k.?

>

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