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> I try to do most of my grocery shopping online - as I really cannot

> deal with supermarkets - to me it is sensory overload.

You might relate to this article on " supermarket syndrome. "

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/gate/archive/2005/04/15/notes041505\

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Superb! What an observation! I haven't to my knowledge ever thought of the supermarket in as quite a descriptive fashion but, it certainly rings true. It's such a great thing to get the word out as well. I just got back from the Wild Oats down the road a couple hours ago. I asked one of the produce people what I could put in the salad to kill the boring taste and he mentioned raspberries, tangerines, etc.. etc.. and it was just so great to get such quality advice in a store. Most of the people there are much healthier looking than anyone at the supermarket and their faces radiate. They can't be so shiny looking without being internally healthy. All the organic stuff doesn't have to say 0 trans fat grams because it's healthy in the first place and needs no alteration. The people there really are happy to answer questions and have healthier smiles than regular supermarket clerks. It actually looks like they want to be there and like what they

do. Today was like 80 degrees and there were multitudes of people on the riverwalk outside. How's the weather in Washington? Sara McGrath <msaraann@...> wrote: > I try to do most of my grocery shopping online - as I really cannot> deal with supermarkets - to me it is sensory overload.You might relate to this article on "supermarket syndrome."http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/gate/archive/2005/04/15/notes041505.DTL & nl=fixsara--anticivilization longings http://motheranarchy.blogspot.com

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Quite an interesting read.

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> > I try to do most of my grocery shopping online - as I really cannot

> > deal with supermarkets - to me it is sensory overload.

>

> You might relate to this article on " supermarket syndrome. "

> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?

f=/gate/archive/2005/04/15/notes041505.DTL & nl=fix

>

> sara

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> " Does being out in public stress you guys out. "

Yes. Trying to make our way through the crowded Wal-Mart parking lot

was too much for me yesterday, aagh! Too many people and their loud

voices and quick movements stress me out, as does driving. I do find I

adjust a little after I get used to the shock of the intensity but it

does make me more tired afterwards. Also, having to be social--trying

to smile and be animated and responsive really tires me out. I'm always

having minor freak-outs and work and having a radio speaker over my

head doesn't help--I always sneak and turn the volume down! I have to

take one day a week to be alone all day to recover from a week of

stressors. I do think having to be in public a lot has helped me

overall to take it better--I think if I was alone a lot it would make

it harder for me when I did go in public.

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> " Karma is like the wheel of life what goes around comes back to

you. If you put good out into the universe you get good back, if you

put bad out you get bad back. "

There's a similar idea in Christianity, too-- " Practice giving and

people will give to you. They will pour into your laps a fine

measure, pressed down, shaken together and overflowing. For with the

measure you are measuring out, they will measure out to you in

return. " - Luke 6:38.

I notice when driving, how if I take an agressive stance and treat

everyone like an enemy, not letting them in, the selfishness and

negativity spreads out and effects several people, but if I drive

calmly, letting people in, the opposite happens. I like to spread the

goodness and positivity. Also, I really think that one bad thing can

cause a chain reaction and mess up someone's day or life. Kind of

like the 'boss yells at man, man yells at wife, wife yells at

children, child kicks dog'.

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> > " I try to do most of my grocery shopping online - as I really

cannot

> > deal with supermarkets - to me it is sensory overload. "

I do most of my shopping online too.

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> > " I try to do most of my grocery shopping online - as I really

cannot

> > deal with supermarkets - to me it is sensory overload. "

I do most of my shopping online too.

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I too find I need time off to recover.

Also;

" I do think having to be in public a lot has helped me overall to

take it better--I think if I was alone a lot it would make it harder

for me when I did go in public. "

I kind of find if I do not do much socialising, which I don't :-)

then I kind of get worse, like I've forgotten how. It is not a skill

that comes naturally to me and I think lack of practice makes me

worse :-( thing is I rarely enjoy doing such, so often don't make the

effort.

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> > " Does being out in public stress you guys out. "

>

> Yes. Trying to make our way through the crowded Wal-Mart parking

lot

> was too much for me yesterday, aagh! Too many people and their loud

> voices and quick movements stress me out, as does driving. I do

find I

> adjust a little after I get used to the shock of the intensity but

it

> does make me more tired afterwards. Also, having to be social--

trying

> to smile and be animated and responsive really tires me out. I'm

always

> having minor freak-outs and work and having a radio speaker over my

> head doesn't help--I always sneak and turn the volume down! I have

to

> take one day a week to be alone all day to recover from a week of

> stressors. I do think having to be in public a lot has helped me

> overall to take it better--I think if I was alone a lot it would

make

> it harder for me when I did go in public.

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I definitely agree with what you are saying here and know it to be

true.

It is funny that I often give away what I do not need or want, but

the thing is the more I give the more comes to me. I don't actually

give to get, I'm trying to make some space, but it seems whatever

laws are at work feel I have to recieve too :-)

It is funny really, but nice I guess. Even with what I recieve I try

to pass it on if others are more in need, or I think they would

appreciate it. I have more than I need in some respects, I actually

like giving if I can afford to, but draw the line if I cannot as I

have my son to support. Maybe I am selfish at drawing a line

sometims, I do not know? It is usually financial that I cannot give

as I need to be careful now in how I manage such.

> >

> > " Karma is like the wheel of life what goes around comes back to

> you. If you put good out into the universe you get good back, if

you

> put bad out you get bad back. "

>

> There's a similar idea in Christianity, too-- " Practice giving and

> people will give to you. They will pour into your laps a fine

> measure, pressed down, shaken together and overflowing. For with

the

> measure you are measuring out, they will measure out to you in

> return. " - Luke 6:38.

>

> I notice when driving, how if I take an agressive stance and treat

> everyone like an enemy, not letting them in, the selfishness and

> negativity spreads out and effects several people, but if I drive

> calmly, letting people in, the opposite happens. I like to spread

the

> goodness and positivity. Also, I really think that one bad thing

can

> cause a chain reaction and mess up someone's day or life. Kind of

> like the 'boss yells at man, man yells at wife, wife yells at

> children, child kicks dog'.

>

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> <snip> I just got back from the Wild Oats down the road a couple hours ago. I

asked one of the produce people what I could put in the salad to kill the boring

taste and he mentioned raspberries, tangerines, etc.. etc.. and it was just so

great to get such quality advice in a store. Most of the people there are much

healthier looking than anyone at the supermarket and their faces radiate. They

can't be so shiny looking without being internally healthy. All the organic

stuff doesn't have to say 0 trans fat grams because it's healthy in the first

place and needs no alteration. The people there really are happy to answer

questions and have healthier smiles than regular supermarket clerks. It actually

looks like they want to be there and like what they do. Today was like 80

degrees and there were multitudes of people on the riverwalk outside. How's the

weather in Washington?

Washington weather is wonderful. Bright and warm with light rain. I've

also get the impression that natural foods store clerks are happier in

their jobs than supermarket clerks. I wonder if, besides the chaotic

environment of a supermarket, the clerks also wear down psychicly on a

deeper level watching all the harmful junk food and chemicals cross

the counter.

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In a message dated 5/2/2006 1:36:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, drumthis2001@... writes:

just got back from the store and I had someone with me who didn't have a clue on how to use the self-checkout machines. Anyway, the store is no good and the checkout machines suck donkey balls and it really was a frustrating experience as compared to checking out at local markets or farmers co-op type places which are less expensive alot of the time anyway.

Forgot to mention: that one phrase is rather descriptive and pushing it. I would suggest something less vulgar in the future.

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In a message dated 5/2/2006 1:36:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, drumthis2001@... writes:

I just got back from the store and I had someone with me who didn't have a clue on how to use the self-checkout machines. Anyway, the store is no good and the checkout machines suck donkey balls and it really was a frustrating experience as compared to checking out at local markets or farmers co-op type places which are less expensive alot of the time anyway.

That wouldn't have been a Walmart would it? The Walmart here put in some self-check out machines about a year ago. They usually have a long line and seem to take longer than the regular lines. I'll only use them if the lines are short and I have one or two things. Otherwise, I'll find a slow department like electronics or seasonal and checkout there.

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In a message dated 5/2/2006 1:52:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, mikecarrie01@... writes:

I don't think the machines work well in any store. Once I got out of a long line to get into a self-checkout line that looked shorter. It turned out to be very much longer because each customer in front of me had problems. I couldn't wait a second longer or I'd scream so I left my stuff and walked out.

One of the big problems with the self-checkout is that any problem you have, the one human worker there has to come over to help you. Since there could be 6 or more people they are watching, they are usually overwhelmed. The machine also calls for them if you are trying to buy any "not for children" items like video games, pellet gun ammunition, movies, etc. that's really irritating.

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In a message dated 5/2/2006 5:05:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, julie.stevenson16@... writes:

I am sick of my local shop fouling up with my bank card (not credit card) and I am trying to be tolerant and patient, but it is getting beyond a joke now (not that it ever was funny).

You could carry cash. I usually carry between $50 and $100 to use for small purchases and at places I don't really trust to use the card.

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I just got back from the store and I had someone with me who didn't have a clue on how to use the self-checkout machines. Anyway, the store is no good and the checkout machines suck donkey balls and it really was a frustrating experience as compared to checking out at local markets or farmers co-op type places which are less expensive alot of the time anyway. Sara McGrath <msaraann@...> wrote: > <snip> I just got back from the Wild Oats down the road a couple hours ago. I asked one of the produce people what I could put in the salad to kill the boring taste and he mentioned raspberries, tangerines, etc.. etc.. and it was just so great to get such quality advice in a store. Most of the people there are much healthier looking than anyone at the supermarket and their faces radiate. They can't be so shiny looking without being

internally healthy. All the organic stuff doesn't have to say 0 trans fat grams because it's healthy in the first place and needs no alteration. The people there really are happy to answer questions and have healthier smiles than regular supermarket clerks. It actually looks like they want to be there and like what they do. Today was like 80 degrees and there were multitudes of people on the riverwalk outside. How's the weather in Washington?Washington weather is wonderful. Bright and warm with light rain. I'vealso get the impression that natural foods store clerks are happier intheir jobs than supermarket clerks. I wonder if, besides the chaoticenvironment of a supermarket, the clerks also wear down psychicly on adeeper level watching all the harmful junk food and chemicals crossthe counter.sara--anticivilization longings http://motheranarchy.blogspot.comFAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Check the Links section for more FAM forums.

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" Anyway, the store is no good and the checkout machines [bleep] "

Well, I bleeped your words out just because I didn't want to repeat

them again, drawing attention to them since they are crude, though I

have to admit this whole sentence made me laugh.

I don't think the machines work well in any store. Once I got out of a

long line to get into a self-checkout line that looked shorter. It

turned out to be very much longer because each customer in front of me

had problems. I couldn't wait a second longer or I'd scream so I left

my stuff and walked out.

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In a message dated 5/2/2006 6:24:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, julie.stevenson16@... writes:

It is just hassle trying to go and get cash now a days and brings me into contact with more people - way too many people :-( Sometimes I cannot handle going further than the local shop. I don't drive btw.

You don't have ATM's around? They are all over the place around here.

PS: I don't drive either.

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In a message dated 5/2/2006 7:34:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, julie.stevenson16@... writes:

The ATM's are in populated places and just recently I have had too much stress to venture that far, tomorrow I have to venture a bit further though :-(Wednesdays are my bussiest days.Really need to sleep soon, brain beginning to crash, probably end up reading for ages in bed as per usual though. My sleep patterns are all over the place recently, probably why I am rambling more - oh well I just hope I am making some coherent sense in all my mad ramblings :-)

ATMs are in populated places for convenience and security. I normally use the walkup one at the bank or the one in the grocery store. Only been hassled at one once, but a fast drawn knife convinced him to bugger off. Too bad the cops told me it was illegal to carry one that long (only 4 inches) and I had to get a new one (2 inches and lacks the "presence" of the other one).

My sleep schedule is off a bit too. Its a combination sinus allergies and an addicting new game.

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In a message dated 5/2/2006 7:34:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, julie.stevenson16@... writes:

The ATM's are in populated places and just recently I have had too much stress to venture that far, tomorrow I have to venture a bit further though :-(Wednesdays are my bussiest days.Really need to sleep soon, brain beginning to crash, probably end up reading for ages in bed as per usual though. My sleep patterns are all over the place recently, probably why I am rambling more - oh well I just hope I am making some coherent sense in all my mad ramblings :-)

ATMs are in populated places for convenience and security. I normally use the walkup one at the bank or the one in the grocery store. Only been hassled at one once, but a fast drawn knife convinced him to bugger off. Too bad the cops told me it was illegal to carry one that long (only 4 inches) and I had to get a new one (2 inches and lacks the "presence" of the other one).

My sleep schedule is off a bit too. Its a combination sinus allergies and an addicting new game.

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I am sick of my local shop fouling up with my bank card (not credit

card) and I am trying to be tolerant and patient, but it is getting

beyond a joke now (not that it ever was funny).

They have undercharged me (I pointed this out to them), overcharged

me (I think they got away with that because I wasn't sure, as I was

distracted) and most recently they did not even put my last

transaction through - so no charge, but they bumped it onto my bill

today after explaining this to me :-(

Oh I hope they get it right soon, such things are trying and

frustrating to me and if they continue will soon become stressful too.

> >

> " Anyway, the store is no good and the checkout machines [bleep] "

>

> Well, I bleeped your words out just because I didn't want to repeat

> them again, drawing attention to them since they are crude, though

I

> have to admit this whole sentence made me laugh.

>

> I don't think the machines work well in any store. Once I got out

of

a

> long line to get into a self-checkout line that looked shorter. It

> turned out to be very much longer because each customer in front of

me

> had problems. I couldn't wait a second longer or I'd scream so I

left

> my stuff and walked out.

>

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It is just hassle trying to go and get cash now a days and brings me

into contact with more people - way too many people :-( Sometimes I

cannot handle going further than the local shop. I don't drive btw.

>

>

> In a message dated 5/2/2006 5:05:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> julie.stevenson16@... writes:

>

> I am sick of my local shop fouling up with my bank card (not

credit

> card) and I am trying to be tolerant and patient, but it is

getting

> beyond a joke now (not that it ever was funny).

>

>

>

> You could carry cash. I usually carry between $50 and $100 to use

for small

> purchases and at places I don't really trust to use the card.

>

>

>

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Albertson's. The local WM super center is bad at stocking certain things but, all in all has been easier to deal with than Albertson's who is now selling grapples in 4 packs and I read the ingredients. Artificial Grape flavoring in the apples is all it is. VISIGOTH@... wrote: In a message dated 5/2/2006 1:36:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, drumthis2001@... writes: I just got back from the store and I had someone with me who didn't have a clue on how to use the self-checkout machines. Anyway, the store is no good and the checkout machines suck donkey

balls and it really was a frustrating experience as compared to checking out at local markets or farmers co-op type places which are less expensive alot of the time anyway. That wouldn't have been a Walmart would it? The Walmart here put in some self-check out machines about a year ago. They usually have a long line and seem to take longer than the regular lines. I'll only use them if the lines are short and I have one or two things. Otherwise, I'll find a slow department like electronics or seasonal and checkout there.

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> It is just hassle trying to go and get cash now a days and brings me

> into contact with more people - way too many people :-( Sometimes I

> cannot handle going further than the local shop. I don't drive btw.

I guess I've been lucky not to have had any trouble with the automated

checkouts or with my debit card. Usually you can also request cash

back right at the automated checkout when you use your debit card.

Getting cash that way has the advantage of not charging a fee for

withdrawal as with an ATM machine.

-sara

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> It is just hassle trying to go and get cash now a days and brings me

> into contact with more people - way too many people :-( Sometimes I

> cannot handle going further than the local shop. I don't drive btw.

I guess I've been lucky not to have had any trouble with the automated

checkouts or with my debit card. Usually you can also request cash

back right at the automated checkout when you use your debit card.

Getting cash that way has the advantage of not charging a fee for

withdrawal as with an ATM machine.

-sara

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>

The ATM's are in populated places and just recently I have had too

much stress to venture that far, tomorrow I have to venture a bit

further though :-(

Wednesdays are my bussiest days.

Really need to sleep soon, brain beginning to crash, probably end up

reading for ages in bed as per usual though. My sleep patterns are

all over the place recently, probably why I am rambling more - oh

well I just hope I am making some coherent sense in all my mad

ramblings :-)

> In a message dated 5/2/2006 6:24:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> julie.stevenson16@... writes:

>

> It is just hassle trying to go and get cash now a days and brings

me

> into contact with more people - way too many people :-( Sometimes

I

> cannot handle going further than the local shop. I don't drive

btw.

>

>

>

>

>

> You don't have ATM's around? They are all over the place around

here.

>

>

>

> PS: I don't drive either.

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