Antibiotics

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I'm by no means an expert but I had thought the rule of thumb was probiotics at least 6 hrs after antibiotics.  If you give probiotics too close to the dose of antibiotics you're basically just eliminating them (with the bad bacteria--antibiotics work to eliminate both good and bad bacteria). 

 

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Tory Eastep <tory_eastep@...> wrote:

 

One of the side effects of Amoxicillan is hyperactivity.  I'm sure he's feeling a bit out of sorts.  I would give probiotics 2 hours after every dose of antibiotics.  Others may disagree.

 

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From: <linbec59@...>Subject: antibioticsVaccinations

Date: Monday, November 1, 2010, 1:32 PM

 

I have couple of questions I hope someone can help me with. My 3 1/2 year old grandson has had a respiratory infection, not really bad, but the dr. put him on ammoxicillin for 10 days. Not sure if it was necessary, since I think it was a virus. But I know that antibiotics can destroy the flora in the intestinesand I want to know if we should get some probiotics for him when he is finished with the med. Also his personality has seemed to alter from a wonderful, sweet child to an unbearable brat. Can antibiotics affect a persons behavior? Maybe I am reaching on that because I cannot bear to think that he is going to behave like this from now on.

B.

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I've only read 2 hours.

If you wait 6 hours and it's an Rx for 4 times a day, you won't ever get a chance to give them.

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From: <linbec59@...>Subject: antibioticsVaccinations Date: Monday, November 1, 2010, 1:32 PM

I have couple of questions I hope someone can help me with. My 3 1/2 year old grandson has had a respiratory infection, not really bad, but the dr. put him on ammoxicillin for 10 days. Not sure if it was necessary, since I think it was a virus. But I know that antibiotics can destroy the flora in the intestinesand I want to know if we should get some probiotics for him when he is finished with the med. Also his personality has seemed to alter from a wonderful, sweet child to an unbearable brat. Can antibiotics affect a persons behavior? Maybe I am reaching on that because I cannot bear to think that he is going to behave like this from now on. B.

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On the flip side, if you have the once a day kind that lasts for a long time, maybe that's where the six hours comes in (although I'd think the probiotics wouldn't have much of a chance until the course of antibiotics is done).

Winnie antibiotics> Vaccinations > Date: Monday, November 1, 2010, 1:32 PM > > > > > > I have couple of questions I hope someone can help me with. My 3 > 1/2 year old grandson has had a respiratory infection, not > really bad, but the dr. put him on ammoxicillin for 10 days. Not > sure if it was necessary, since I think it was a virus. But I > know that antibiotics can destroy the flora in the intestinesand > I want to know if we should get some probiotics for him when he > is finished with the med. Also his personality has seemed to > alter from a wonderful, sweet child to an unbearable brat. Can > antibiotics affect a persons behavior? Maybe I am reaching on > that because I cannot bear to think that he is going to behave > like this from now on.> B.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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I was just going by the one time I actually filled a prescription for antibiotics (penicillin) for my kids.  It was prescribed 2x/ day, so 6 hrs would be in-between the doses every 12 hrs.  I guess the point is to just avoid giving them near the time of the antibiotic dose.

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Tory Eastep <tory_eastep@...> wrote:

 

I've only read 2 hours.

If you wait 6 hours and it's an Rx for 4 times a day, you won't ever get a chance to give them.

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From: <linbec59@...>Subject: antibiotics

Vaccinations Date: Monday, November 1, 2010, 1:32 PM

 

I have couple of questions I hope someone can help me with. My 3 1/2 year old grandson has had a respiratory infection, not really bad, but the dr. put him on ammoxicillin for 10 days. Not sure if it was necessary, since I think it was a virus. But I know that antibiotics can destroy the flora in the intestinesand I want to know if we should get some probiotics for him when he is finished with the med. Also his personality has seemed to alter from a wonderful, sweet child to an unbearable brat. Can antibiotics affect a persons behavior? Maybe I am reaching on that because I cannot bear to think that he is going to behave like this from now on.

B.

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I've wondered about that as well. Perhaps the point is to reduce the damage done rather than completely negate it?> > > From: > Subject: antibiotics> Vaccinations > Date: Monday, November 1, 2010, 1:32 PM > > > > > > I have

couple of questions I hope someone can help me with. My 3 > 1/2 year old grandson has had a respiratory infection, not > really bad, but the dr. put him on ammoxicillin for 10 days. Not > sure if it was necessary, since I think it was a virus. But I > know that antibiotics can destroy the flora in the intestinesand > I want to know if we should get some probiotics for him when he > is finished with the med. Also his personality has seemed to > alter from a wonderful, sweet child to an unbearable brat. Can > antibiotics affect a persons behavior? Maybe I am reaching on > that because I cannot bear to think that he is going to behave > like this from now on.> B.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Oh, sure. I would definitely do it knowing it might not do all you wanted it to. At worst, it would be wasted but certainly worth a try.

Winnie antibiotics> > Vaccinations > > Date: Monday, November 1, 2010, 1:32 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > I have couple of questions I hope someone can help me with. My > 3 > > 1/2 year old grandson has had a respiratory infection, not > > really bad, but the dr. put him on ammoxicillin for 10 days. > Not > > sure if it was necessary, since I think it was a virus. But I > > know that antibiotics can destroy the flora in the > intestinesand > > I want to know if we should get some probiotics for him when > he > > is finished with the med. Also his personality has seemed to > > alter from a wonderful, sweet child to an unbearable brat. Can > > antibiotics affect a persons behavior? Maybe I am reaching on > > that because I cannot bear to think that he is going to behave > > like this from now on.> > B.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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TrudyPlease be overly careful getting around. Falling is quite common on tx. I thought for sure that I was simply going to lose my knees from all the falls I took. Do you remember when I was telling the group, sometime back about falling out of bed?? That became a habit on tx and has not happened once since tx has been over. However, wouldn't it be better to use an over the counter cream with a big bandage for the knee??Now, I'm trying to think. I hate antibiotics and it takes a lot for me to go see a Dr. about anything that I might need that to treat. Yet, I had 3 colds during the last tx and I'm not a person that is inclined to get colds. I think it was the 2nd one

that I did have to take antibiotics for.Gloria

My Doc said for me to go to Walk-in Clinic for urine test and be sure it's a UTI.( I know, Teri, " told ya so". But made a comment about not wanting to be on antibitics while on TX. Anybody know what that was about?? Do they negate the TX?? Never heard anybody mention this.

I also need antibiotics for my leg. I fell TWICE this morning. Maybe 10 mins apart. But I scraped up my leg pretty bad. Tired of being clumbsey.

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Trudy,I was on antibiotics several times during treatment... usually for skin infections from that silly rash that I'd scratch.  I was constantly getting things infected.  Once or twice for being just sick too...  Not sure why he wouldn't want you on antibiotics.. that UTI ain't gonna clear up on its own.

Hugs,TeriOn Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 8:01 PM, trudykinsey@... <trudykinsey@...> wrote:

 

My Doc said for me to go to Walk-in Clinic for urine test and be sure it's a UTI.( I know, Teri, " told ya so " . But made a comment about not wanting to be on antibitics while on TX. Anybody know what that was about?? Do they negate the TX?? Never heard anybody mention this.

I also need antibiotics for my leg. I fell TWICE this morning. Maybe 10 mins apart. But I scraped up my leg pretty bad. Tired of being clumbsey.

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I'm actually going to Clinic for Urinary Tract Infection. Like Teri said, iv played around with cranberry pills for two weeks. And I don't want to be any more miserable on Chritmas. We are driving 4 hrs to ft worth tx Christmas eve and seeing my daughter andd her boys. We have been estranged for 10 yrs. The only other time I saw her was 3 yrs ago and it was a disaster. Then more family on Saturday,.it's gonna be hard & exhausting, so I really need to clear up this infection.http://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877 " "A well- behaved woman never made history"...Mae Westhttp://oktravels.wordpress.com http://allrecipes.com/cook/TrudyK/profile.aspx On Dec 20, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Gloria <gadamscan@...> wrote:

TrudyPlease be overly careful getting around. Falling is quite common on tx. I thought for sure that I was simply going to lose my knees from all the falls I took. Do you remember when I was telling the group, sometime back about falling out of bed?? That became a habit on tx and has not happened once since tx has been over. However, wouldn't it be better to use an over the counter cream with a big bandage for the knee??Now, I'm trying to think. I hate antibiotics and it takes a lot for me to go see a Dr. about anything that I might need that to treat. Yet, I had 3 colds during the last tx and I'm not a person that is inclined to get colds. I think it was the 2nd one

that I did have to take antibiotics for.Gloria

My Doc said for me to go to Walk-in Clinic for urine test and be sure it's a UTI.( I know, Teri, " told ya so". But made a comment about not wanting to be on antibitics while on TX. Anybody know what that was about?? Do they negate the TX?? Never heard anybody mention this.

I also need antibiotics for my leg. I fell TWICE this morning. Maybe 10 mins apart. But I scraped up my leg pretty bad. Tired of being clumbsey.

http://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877 "

"A well- behaved woman never made history"...Mae West

http://oktravels.wordpress.com

http://allrecipes.com/cook/TrudyK/profile.aspx

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Both falls I was just walking across room; flat floor!http://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877 " "A well- behaved woman never made history"...Mae Westhttp://oktravels.wordpress.com http://allrecipes.com/cook/TrudyK/profile.aspx On Dec 20, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Gloria

<gadamscan@...> wrote:

TrudyPlease be overly careful getting around. Falling is quite common on tx. I thought for sure that I was simply going to lose my knees from all the falls I took. Do you remember when I was telling the group, sometime back about falling out of bed?? That became a habit on tx and has not happened once since tx has been over. However, wouldn't it be better to use an over the counter cream with a big bandage for the knee??Now, I'm trying to think. I hate antibiotics and it takes a lot for me to go see a Dr. about anything that I might need that to treat. Yet, I had 3 colds during the last tx and I'm not a person that is inclined to get colds. I think it was the 2nd one

that I did have to take antibiotics for.Gloria

My Doc said for me to go to Walk-in Clinic for urine test and be sure it's a UTI.( I know, Teri, " told ya so". But made a comment about not wanting to be on antibitics while on TX. Anybody know what that was about?? Do they negate the TX?? Never heard anybody mention this.

I also need antibiotics for my leg. I fell TWICE this morning. Maybe 10 mins apart. But I scraped up my leg pretty bad. Tired of being clumbsey.

http://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877 "

"A well- behaved woman never made history"...Mae West

http://oktravels.wordpress.com

http://allrecipes.com/cook/TrudyK/profile.aspx

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How well I remember!! There was absolutely no reason for any of my falls; but, there it was, my kneecaps scraped regularly. It was almost as though there was an instant or something, where my leg just didn't have any feeling whatsoever. Yet, it sure did feel the fall.

Both falls I was just walking across room; flat floor!http://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877 " "A well- behaved woman never made history"...Mae Westhttp://oktravels.wordpress.com http://allrecipes.com/cook/TrudyK/profile.aspx On Dec 20, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Gloria

<gadamscan@...> wrote:

TrudyPlease be overly careful getting around. Falling is quite common on tx. I thought for sure that I was simply going to lose my knees from all the falls I took. Do you remember when I was telling the group, sometime back about falling out of bed?? That became a habit on tx and has not happened once since tx has been over. However, wouldn't it be better to use an over the counter cream with a big bandage for the knee??Now, I'm trying to think. I hate antibiotics and it takes a lot for me to go see a Dr. about anything that I might need that to treat. Yet, I had 3 colds during the last tx and I'm not a person that is inclined to get colds. I think it was the 2nd one

that I did have to take antibiotics for.Gloria

My Doc said for me to go to Walk-in Clinic for urine test and be sure it's a UTI.( I know, Teri, " told ya so". But made a comment about not wanting to be on antibitics while on TX. Anybody know what that was about?? Do they negate the TX?? Never heard anybody mention this.

I also need antibiotics for my leg. I fell TWICE this morning. Maybe 10 mins apart. But I scraped up my leg pretty bad. Tired of being clumbsey.

http://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877 "

"A well- behaved woman never made history"...Mae West

http://oktravels.wordpress.com

http://allrecipes.com/cook/TrudyK/profile.aspx

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Went to walkin clinic. Doc ask me if I ran a fever, if I hurt, was I nauseated.

I told him, seriously, Doc, what part of chemo did you miss? But I was nice LoL.

He gave me Cipro antibiotics after a culure of urine sample. I feel like

especially bad crap right now. But I know I will feel better by tomorrow.

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I sure hope so Trudy!! After all, you feel like shit from the treatment and then you get a bladder infection because your body is fighting the dragon so hard. Sometimes the question is - what's next??Gloria

Went to walkin clinic. Doc ask me if I ran a fever, if I hurt, was I nauseated. I told him, seriously, Doc, what part of chemo did you miss? But I was nice LoL. He gave me Cipro antibiotics after a culure of urine sample. I feel like especially bad crap right now. But I know I will feel better by tomorrow.

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Oh No ! I dont ask Whats Next! I seem to be fated to have an endless supply of Whats Next! I will only use the placard where neccesary. Hubby was against it until he actually saw that the walk from the parking place required 10-15 min rest once inside.the past few days I am having real problems with my legs. I stand & they aren't there. I fall back into the chair. " What Next ? " LoLhttp://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877 " "A well- behaved woman never made history"...Mae Westhttp://oktravels.wordpress.com http://allrecipes.com/cook/TrudyK/profile.aspx On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:14 AM, Gloria <gadamscan@...> wrote:

I sure hope so Trudy!! After all, you feel like shit from the treatment and then you get a bladder infection because your body is fighting the dragon so hard. Sometimes the question is - what's next??Gloria

Went to walkin clinic. Doc ask me if I ran a fever, if I hurt, was I nauseated. I told him, seriously, Doc, what part of chemo did you miss? But I was nice LoL. He gave me Cipro antibiotics after a culure of urine sample. I feel like especially bad crap right now. But I know I will feel better by tomorrow.

http://facebook.com/people/andTrudy-Kinsey/1340460877 "

"A well- behaved woman never made history"...Mae West

http://oktravels.wordpress.com

http://allrecipes.com/cook/TrudyK/profile.aspx

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My personal opinion about antibiotics is that 1 day is too many and personally,

I would stop immediately even being in the middle of the prescription. If you

break the meaning down of the word down it answers the question...

Antibiotic...anti means against right? Biotic means life...So, antibiotic means

Anti-life. Pro means For...so, probiotic means for life.

With that said, I would recommend she make massive amounts of milk kefir, which

is better than water kefir. She should drink several glasses, maybe 3 a day and

make sure she is also eatin PRE-Biotics also...quinoa is one such prebiotic.

Another way to get the good guys back into the gut is to take Dr. Ohhira's

Probiotics. They are considered one of the best.

You can find tons and tons of real health information on www.naturalnews.com and

listen to the Bell show on the naturalnews radio or read his blog

at www.robertscottbell.com. Mercola is also another good site to get good info.

I hope this helps,

Al

antibiotics

Hi, my daughter is on antibiotics (and has been for weeks now). I gave her

some mk grains in milk to take home. We were wondering , should she wait one

more week till she is off the antibiotics, or should she drink the mk while on

the antibiotics. Thank you, Lydia

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<<We were wondering , should she wait one more week till she is off the

antibiotics, or should she drink the mk while on the antibiotics.>>

Lydia,

I was on long-term antibiotics for 5 years and always took any probiotic mid-way

between abx doses. You don't have to wait - in fact it will help restore the

good flora to start kefir immediately. Of course, now I'm trying to undo the

damage but that's another story...

Beth

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>

The reason for medication resistent bacteria and TB are the doctors

prescribing antibiotics for everything under the sun and for things that have

nothing to do with bacteria...cold, or other viruses or long term antibiotics

for acne...they do this just to make the patient feel better that they " did

something. "

.. . . That is definitely one reason for resistant bacteria. Another reason, and

probably the biggest reason, is the routine feeding of antibiotics to livestock.

Anyone eating CAFO beef, chicken, dairy, and/or pork, besides eating meat fed an

unnatural GMO grain, candy, (including the candy wrappers,) artificial hormone

(often, especially in the case dairy, GMO hormone,) stale cake and bread,

chicken poo, along with other nasties, is also consuming huge quantities of

antibiotics with their meat. According to FDA, in 2009, approx. 29 MILLION

POUNDS of antibiotics were fed to CAFO animals. These animals consume far more

antibiotics in their feed than are prescribed to humans, and everyone eating

CAFO meats is routinely consuming antibiotics. This is actually the far more

pervasive reason for superbugs than not finishing one's Rx antibiotics

prescribed by a doctor. The majority of the US population eats antibiotics

every time they eat meat, which is generally at least once every day.

We love our pasturing farmers! I could never go back to eating factory meat,

eggs, or dairy. I'd rather go vegetarian than eat that nasty, toxic stuff.

Cheers,