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Thats Bullshit, Pat that kind of treatment I see it

firsthand with what is happeneing to me.

I am embarresed when people ask me if I had work for

the Government. I say yes but not with any of that.

I worked in Public Works Engineering Design. Guess I

should have saved some money. Well I didn't and here

I am......TA DAH Take care, Connie

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Thanks for grounding me Claudine! When I re-read your email, I did

then notice that it is very rare. I guess with so much info coming

basically within a few months...I tend to over-react. Actually, come

to think of it, I tend to overreact on EVERYthing ;-} So I am

thankful that you caught that and grounded me. I need that every so

often lol, so appreciate it when you catch me doing it. Then I can

sit back and say to myself " ahhhhhh you did it again " . LOL You are

now my official grounder, if that's ok with you.

Hugggggggs

Carol

claudine intexas wrote:

>

> --- Carol <csean@...> wrote:

> I had no idea that this is

> > another thing I will

> > have to look for if and when I start treatment.

>

> Just remember, things like this are very unusual! They

> DON'T happen to most people! You have to watch out or

> you start blaming every little thing on either the

> HCV, or treatment, if you are on it, and completely

> overlook more likely reasons for problems.

> Claudine

>

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Thanks for grounding me Claudine! When I re-read your email, I did

then notice that it is very rare. I guess with so much info coming

basically within a few months...I tend to over-react. Actually, come

to think of it, I tend to overreact on EVERYthing ;-} So I am

thankful that you caught that and grounded me. I need that every so

often lol, so appreciate it when you catch me doing it. Then I can

sit back and say to myself " ahhhhhh you did it again " . LOL You are

now my official grounder, if that's ok with you.

Hugggggggs

Carol

claudine intexas wrote:

>

> --- Carol <csean@...> wrote:

> I had no idea that this is

> > another thing I will

> > have to look for if and when I start treatment.

>

> Just remember, things like this are very unusual! They

> DON'T happen to most people! You have to watch out or

> you start blaming every little thing on either the

> HCV, or treatment, if you are on it, and completely

> overlook more likely reasons for problems.

> Claudine

>

> __________________________________________________

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Thanks for grounding me Claudine! When I re-read your email, I did

then notice that it is very rare. I guess with so much info coming

basically within a few months...I tend to over-react. Actually, come

to think of it, I tend to overreact on EVERYthing ;-} So I am

thankful that you caught that and grounded me. I need that every so

often lol, so appreciate it when you catch me doing it. Then I can

sit back and say to myself " ahhhhhh you did it again " . LOL You are

now my official grounder, if that's ok with you.

Hugggggggs

Carol

claudine intexas wrote:

>

> --- Carol <csean@...> wrote:

> I had no idea that this is

> > another thing I will

> > have to look for if and when I start treatment.

>

> Just remember, things like this are very unusual! They

> DON'T happen to most people! You have to watch out or

> you start blaming every little thing on either the

> HCV, or treatment, if you are on it, and completely

> overlook more likely reasons for problems.

> Claudine

>

> __________________________________________________

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Thanks for grounding me Claudine! When I re-read your email, I did

then notice that it is very rare. I guess with so much info coming

basically within a few months...I tend to over-react. Actually, come

to think of it, I tend to overreact on EVERYthing ;-} So I am

thankful that you caught that and grounded me. I need that every so

often lol, so appreciate it when you catch me doing it. Then I can

sit back and say to myself " ahhhhhh you did it again " . LOL You are

now my official grounder, if that's ok with you.

Hugggggggs

Carol

claudine intexas wrote:

>

> --- Carol <csean@...> wrote:

> I had no idea that this is

> > another thing I will

> > have to look for if and when I start treatment.

>

> Just remember, things like this are very unusual! They

> DON'T happen to most people! You have to watch out or

> you start blaming every little thing on either the

> HCV, or treatment, if you are on it, and completely

> overlook more likely reasons for problems.

> Claudine

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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If I'm a 'grounder' now, it's only because I used to

be 'flyer', or whatever the opposite would be! It's

just having had more time to learn and get used to all

this, experience. And yes, that is plenty of

experience overreacting myself! We all do it, I still

will do it too. We all need each other. (You know it's

MUCH easier to catch someone else overreacting than it

is to catch yourself!)

Claudine

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If I'm a 'grounder' now, it's only because I used to

be 'flyer', or whatever the opposite would be! It's

just having had more time to learn and get used to all

this, experience. And yes, that is plenty of

experience overreacting myself! We all do it, I still

will do it too. We all need each other. (You know it's

MUCH easier to catch someone else overreacting than it

is to catch yourself!)

Claudine

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If I'm a 'grounder' now, it's only because I used to

be 'flyer', or whatever the opposite would be! It's

just having had more time to learn and get used to all

this, experience. And yes, that is plenty of

experience overreacting myself! We all do it, I still

will do it too. We all need each other. (You know it's

MUCH easier to catch someone else overreacting than it

is to catch yourself!)

Claudine

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If I'm a 'grounder' now, it's only because I used to

be 'flyer', or whatever the opposite would be! It's

just having had more time to learn and get used to all

this, experience. And yes, that is plenty of

experience overreacting myself! We all do it, I still

will do it too. We all need each other. (You know it's

MUCH easier to catch someone else overreacting than it

is to catch yourself!)

Claudine

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Becki,

Just curious as we have only started the waiting for enbrel game. Has your rheumy said anything about switching to remicaide instead of continuing to wait? My husband called Immunex today and they would give no time estimates whatsoever. The rheumy's nurse said he issued a prescription in November that took 2 weeks, but Abbies is the only one since then.

I'm not very good at waiting. We will switch to remicaide if necessary.

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We are waiting for it also. We too are considering just going to Remicaide. Buzz's doctor wants to try Enbrel first only because it should also help with his asthma problems. I just don't know if the wait is worth it. Today his knee is swollen again, can barely do any school work, but he is also wheezing and coughing something horrible. We just don't know what is best.

Amy

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Becki,Just curious as we have only started the waiting for enbrel game. Has your rheumy said anything about switching to remicaide instead of continuing to wait? My husband called Immunex today and they would give no time estimates whatsoever. The rheumy's nurse said he issued a prescription in November that took 2 weeks, but Abbies is the only one since then. I'm not very good at waiting. We will switch to remicaide if necessary.Christy

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Hi everyone,

Why is there a waiting list for embrel? Do you have

to be approved by the manufacture or something? How

fustrating..... Take care everyone,

Kim and (2 yrs, Poly)

--- gazelle34@... wrote

> Becki,

>

> Just curious as we have only started the waiting for

> enbrel game. Has your

> rheumy said anything about switching to remicaide

> instead of continuing to

> wait? My husband called Immunex today and they would

> give no time estimates

> whatsoever. The rheumy's nurse said he issued a

> prescription in November that

> took 2 weeks, but Abbies is the only one since then.

>

>

> I'm not very good at waiting. We will switch to

> remicaide if necessary.

>

> Christy

>

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My daughter has been using Enbrel for quite some time now. We got it

rather quickly because the hospital participates in some program with

Immunex. We enrolled in that (tons of paperwork about ) and we

have to fill out paperwork every so often to update her progress.

However, the pharmacy was having problems getting the meds from Immunex.

They had us register with them and we now have a card with 's

number on it and that's what the pharmacy uses to fill her prescriptions

each time. (13, systemic) was getting Enbrel twice a week and

for a couple months now, she been getting it 3 times per week subQ, we

do the tummy shots. She actually has started doing the shots on her own

so that she has the freedom to go somewhere and not be tied to the house

because of a shot that I was giving her. Anyway, maybe contacting

Immunex once you have a prescription would be an idea.

Just my thoughts....Take Care

Dayna Drennan

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Hi everyone,

Why is there a waiting list for embrel? Do you have

to be approved by the manufacture or something? How

fustrating..... Take care everyone,

Kim and (2 yrs, Poly)

--- gazelle34@... wrote

> Becki,

>

> Just curious as we have only started the waiting for

> enbrel game. Has your

> rheumy said anything about switching to remicaide

> instead of continuing to

> wait? My husband called Immunex today and they would

> give no time estimates

> whatsoever. The rheumy's nurse said he issued a

> prescription in November that

> took 2 weeks, but Abbies is the only one since then.

>

>

> I'm not very good at waiting. We will switch to

> remicaide if necessary.

>

> Christy

>

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Well Good Luck Christy!! Seriously.

has

done well with her “cocktail”. We go in on the 14th

and I’m hoping that they will cut back the Enbrel to twice a week and the

cyclosporine down by a 1/3, but we shall see. She is doing well with the

labs. Although the flu has been a real pain. We were in the Emergency

room on Wednesday night. She had a horrible headache and had been vomiting

for two days. She got 2 bags of IV fluids and Toredol for her

headache. They also gave her 20mg of solumedrol. She hadn’t

been keeping her other meds down. Thank goodness she’s feeling

better again and back in school.

This sure can be a bumpy road!!

Dayna

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Been

there done that Dayna. I think got lucky because the hospital was

participating in a study. Like I said earlier today, I'm not good at waiting.

So we go back the first week of March. If we have nothing by then, I will talk

to the rheumy about switching to remicaide. He gave us the choice in the first

place, but recommended the enbrel saying that we wouldn't have to wait anymore.

lol He's usually more on target than that.

Christy

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Everyday when I go to the mailbox I hope that s Enbrel card has

arrived.His liver enzymes are normal on the 20mg MTX but hes got a rash all

around his mouth,eyelids and across the bridge of his nose,I know its not the

systemic rash,because the more his MTX is raised the more obvious it is.I have

a pretty good idea of what this means he wont go to 25mg and he may be droped

to 17.5mg.Sorry Imeant to meantion the rash thing seperately.Becki and

3systemic still waiting for Enbrel

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> I have a gripe about this world and technology..lol! Now how come when they

> do come out with medications to help people..why does it take so long for

> the patients to get it...it is crazy that jra patients have to wait for

> enbrel...just doesn't make sense to me..sorry had to vent

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When I called the company they were very confidintial they could not tell

me how many people were on the list ahead of but they did tell me

it was always changing,there is a minimum of 2 weeks but they have only

let 10 people have it and no more for 5 months.No our rheumy has not mentioned

Remicade yet we go back on the 20th. Becki and

3 systemic

gazelle34@... wrote:

Becki,

Just curious

as we have only started the waiting for enbrel game. Has your rheumy said

anything about switching to remicaide instead of continuing to wait? My

husband called Immunex today and they would give no time estimates whatsoever.

The rheumy's nurse said he issued a prescription in November that took

2 weeks, but Abbies is the only one since then.

I'm not very

good at waiting. We will switch to remicaide if necessary.

Christy

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You got it, there is not enough of it to go around ,your rheumy fills out an

application and you mail it in then you wait for your Enbrel card at which

time you can buy it.Yes it is very frustraiting to wait for a drug which may

improve your child dramatically.Becki and 3systemic waiting 2 months

the 21st.

Kim Engle wrote:

> Hi everyone,

>

> Why is there a waiting list for embrel? Do you have

> to be approved by the manufacture or something? How

> fustrating..... Take care everyone,

> Kim and (2 yrs, Poly)

> --- gazelle34@... wrote

> > Becki,

> >

> > Just curious as we have only started the waiting for

> > enbrel game. Has your

> > rheumy said anything about switching to remicaide

> > instead of continuing to

> > wait? My husband called Immunex today and they would

> > give no time estimates

> > whatsoever. The rheumy's nurse said he issued a

> > prescription in November that

> > took 2 weeks, but Abbies is the only one since then.

> >

> >

> > I'm not very good at waiting. We will switch to

> > remicaide if necessary.

> >

> > Christy

> >

>

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Hi Dayna,

That sure does sound like a nasty flu. I'm happy to hear that is feeling better : ) The same day you guys are seeing the rheumatologist, Josh will be seeing his eye doctor. Time for the color and field of vision (periphereal) exams. He sees his rheumatologist on Friday.

Aloha,

Georgina

Well Good Luck Christy!! Seriously. has done well with her “cocktail”. We go in on the 14th and I’m hoping that they will cut back the Enbrel to twice a week and the cyclosporine down by a 1/3, but we shall see. She is doing well with the labs. Although the flu has been a real pain. We were in the Emergency room on Wednesday night. She had a horrible headache and had been vomiting for two days. She got 2 bags of IV fluids and Toredol for her headache. They also gave her 20mg of solumedrol. She hadn’t been keeping her other meds down. Thank goodness she’s feeling better again and back in school.

This sure can be a bumpy road!!

Dayna Drennan

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I too am glad she is feeling better.

It is so hard when they get sick and there are so many things involved.

The disease is bad enough in itself!!

hopes to see the scale start dropping soon. She doesn’t

even want to know about her weight anymore unless she has lost.

Anyway, good luck at the eye doctor &

the rheumy…..

Take Care,

Dayna Drennan

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Hi Dayna,

That sure does sound like a

nasty flu. I'm happy to hear that is feeling better : ) The same day

you guys are seeing the rheumatologist, Josh will be seeing his eye doctor.

Time for the color and field of vision (periphereal) exams. He sees his

rheumatologist on Friday.

Aloha,

Georgina

Well

Good Luck Christy!! Seriously. has done well with her

“cocktail”. We go in on the 14th and I’m

hoping that they will cut back the Enbrel to twice a week and the cyclosporine

down by a 1/3, but we shall see. She is doing well with the labs.

Although the flu has been a real pain. We were in the Emergency room on

Wednesday night. She had a horrible headache and had been vomiting for

two days. She got 2 bags of IV fluids and Toredol for her headache.

They also gave her 20mg of solumedrol. She hadn’t been keeping her

other meds down. Thank goodness she’s feeling better again and back

in school.

This sure can be a bumpy

road!!

Dayna Drennan

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Hi Dayna,

That must be so hard for Dayna. Especially at this age. It catches me offguard now, when people comment about how much has slimmed down. Like the school nurse the other day, when she phoned me to pick up Josh ... as he wasn't doing too well and got fed up with limping from class to class in the rain (rainy day/barometric pressure-related, I think, if there IS such a thing?). I've gotten accustomed to his 'new' size but others who knew him during the long period while he was on higher dose steroids are amazed at the difference these days. I guess that's another of the ways he's been fortunate. Body image matters even when you're little, but more-so as you enter the teen years and beyond, when people tend to be more aware of the physical. In Hawaii though, a lot of people seem to think 'being chubby' is a positive thing. Cultural difference of many Hawaiians, Samoans, inos, and Tongans? He got so fed up with so many people approaching him to pinch his cheeks and tell him how cute he was. People we didn't even know!

Once the dose of prednisone got lower, so did his weight. Drastically. I hope the same thing happens for Dayna.

Aloha,

Georgina

I too am glad she is feeling better. It is so hard when they get sick and there are so many things involved. The disease is bad enough in itself!!

hopes to see the scale start dropping soon. She doesn’t even want to know about her weight anymore unless she has lost.

Anyway, good luck at the eye doctor & the rheumy…..

Take Care,

Dayna Drennan

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Georgina, Thank you for your thoughts regarding . Her appointment last

week went well. Her sed rate is down to 25 and although she’s anemic,

her labs looked pretty good. She tried to talk the doctor into letting her

stop the cyclosporine which is rather nauseating, but he didn’t give in. The

obvious evil with us right now is the steroids. Jess is down to 5mg a day

and we should start another taper soon. We are looking into moving from the

rainy side over to eastern WA, which is a dryer climate. Hopefully that will

help things going in a positive direction. She lost 3 pounds which may not

be much but let me tell you, every time we have gone in there since April of last year she has gained

weight. I guess that means the taper is working and her weight gain is finally

leveling off.

Back to work, hope all is well in Hawaii!!

Dayna

Drennan

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Hi Dayna,

That must be so hard for Dayna.

Especially at this age. It catches me offguard now, when people comment about

how much has slimmed down. Like the school nurse the other day, when she

phoned me to pick up Josh ... as he wasn't doing too well and got fed up with

limping from class to class in the rain (rainy day/barometric pressure-related,

I think, if there IS such a thing?). I've gotten accustomed to his

'new' size but others who knew him during the long period while he

was on higher dose steroids are amazed at the difference these days. I guess

that's another of the ways he's been fortunate. Body image matters

even when you're little, but more-so as you enter the teen years and

beyond, when people tend to be more aware of the physical. In Hawaii

though, a lot of people seem to think 'being chubby' is a positive thing.

Cultural difference of many Hawaiians, Samoans, inos, and Tongans?

He got so fed up with so many people approaching him to pinch his cheeks

and tell him how cute he was. People we didn't even know!

Once the dose of prednisone got

lower, so did his weight. Drastically. I hope the same thing happens for

Dayna.

Aloha,

Georgina

I too am glad she is

feeling better. It is so hard when they get sick and there are so many

things involved. The disease is bad enough in itself!!

hopes to see the

scale start dropping soon. She doesn’t even want to know about her

weight anymore unless she has lost.

Anyway, good luck at the

eye doctor & the rheumy…..

Take Care,

Dayna Drennan

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Connie....

You are worth the world to all of us...it's only those poor souls who

can think of nothing but money money money who forget that each of us

are humyns of great value.

Don't let them get you down. Can I do anything to help you. You mean

a lot to all of us here and you know you are more important than what

any money grabbing doctor/pharmacy/pharmaceutical company might

think..

Blessings dear friend...

Tatezi

> Well, I just found out my life is only worth $225.

> Have been calling Dr A's office so script could be

> called in to the new Pharmacy. Schering changed from

> Priority to Express Groups. Dr's office will not call

> it in unless I pay the balance, I have been paying $25

> once or twice a month, depending on if I can.

> Makes me feel real sad knowing I am only worth $225.

> Take Care, Connie

>

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Thank You Tat,

It is the Dr's office that I had so much trouble

with that is doing it. It is hard to believe they are

doing it. I never knew money meant that much to some

people. Thanks Tat

Take Care, Connie

--- tatezi1 <tatezi@...> wrote:

> Connie....

>

> You are worth the world to all of us...it's only

> those poor souls who

> can think of nothing but money money money who

> forget that each of us

> are humyns of great value.

>

> Don't let them get you down. Can I do anything to

> help you. You mean

> a lot to all of us here and you know you are more

> important than what

> any money grabbing doctor/pharmacy/pharmaceutical

> company might

> think..

>

> Blessings dear friend...

> Tatezi

>

>

> > Well, I just found out my life is only worth $225.

>

> > Have been calling Dr A's office so script could be

> > called in to the new Pharmacy. Schering changed

> from

> > Priority to Express Groups. Dr's office will not

> call

> > it in unless I pay the balance, I have been paying

> $25

> > once or twice a month, depending on if I can.

> > Makes me feel real sad knowing I am only worth

> $225.

> > Take Care, Connie

> >

> > __________________________________________________

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Connie,

Is that legal? Withholding medication for payment due? Which med is it?

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The Interferon and Ribavarin script from Scherings

Commitment to Care program.

--- <patriciajean@...> wrote:

> Connie,

>

> Is that legal? Withholding medication for payment

> due? Which med is it?

>

> alley

>

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