Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

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are you disagreeing with the concept?

From: Roni Molin

Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:18 AM

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Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

Hahahaha! I bet there is a chocolate gene, since so many people love it. What's

more,

the chocolate gene is much more common in women than men.

Roni

nancie barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote:

alcohol abuse is what lead to the finding that gene. we started looking at the

genetic expression of alcholics and what they found was a genetic code that is

found in the majority of individuals and family members.

it is the same concept as in drug abuse.

From: Crystal

Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 4:52 PM

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Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

I agree that things like that can run in families, however I do not think

genetics is involved. I know there has been alcohol around for a long time,

but what if there was no alcohol? Would there still be a gene for alcohol

abuse?

Cw

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genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing

Gracia

it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that

your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in

families, where there is no thyroid disease.

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Of course not! I have that gene.

Roni

nancie barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote:

are you disagreeing with the concept?

From: Roni Molin

Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:18 AM

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Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

Hahahaha! I bet there is a chocolate gene, since so many people love it. What's

more,

the chocolate gene is much more common in women than men.

Roni

nancie barnett wrote:

alcohol abuse is what lead to the finding that gene. we started looking at the

genetic expression of alcholics and what they found was a genetic code that is

found in the majority of individuals and family members.

it is the same concept as in drug abuse.

From: Crystal

Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 4:52 PM

hypothyroidism

Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

I agree that things like that can run in families, however I do not think

genetics is involved. I know there has been alcohol around for a long time,

but what if there was no alcohol? Would there still be a gene for alcohol

abuse?

Cw

-- Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing

Gracia

it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that

your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in

families, where there is no thyroid disease.

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I guess I don't understand what is funny, then

From: Roni Molin

Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:29 AM

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Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

Of course not! I have that gene.

Roni

nancie barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote:

are you disagreeing with the concept?

From: Roni Molin

Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:18 AM

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Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

Hahahaha! I bet there is a chocolate gene, since so many people love it. What's

more,

the chocolate gene is much more common in women than men.

Roni

nancie barnett wrote:

alcohol abuse is what lead to the finding that gene. we started looking at the

genetic expression of alcholics and what they found was a genetic code that is

found in the majority of individuals and family members.

it is the same concept as in drug abuse.

From: Crystal

Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 4:52 PM

hypothyroidism

Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

I agree that things like that can run in families, however I do not think

genetics is involved. I know there has been alcohol around for a long time,

but what if there was no alcohol? Would there still be a gene for alcohol

abuse?

Cw

-- Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing

Gracia

it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that

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families, where there is no thyroid disease.

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well, I have to agree with the chocolate gene- my mom has one for dark

chocolate- bitter dark chocolate. but my dad has a serious addiction to

chocolate, too. that is why I am cursed! LOL

From: Roni Molin

Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:29 AM

hypothyroidism

Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

Of course not! I have that gene.

Roni

nancie barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote:

are you disagreeing with the concept?

From: Roni Molin

Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:18 AM

hypothyroidism

Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

Hahahaha! I bet there is a chocolate gene, since so many people love it. What's

more,

the chocolate gene is much more common in women than men.

Roni

nancie barnett wrote:

alcohol abuse is what lead to the finding that gene. we started looking at the

genetic expression of alcholics and what they found was a genetic code that is

found in the majority of individuals and family members.

it is the same concept as in drug abuse.

From: Crystal

Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 4:52 PM

hypothyroidism

Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

I agree that things like that can run in families, however I do not think

genetics is involved. I know there has been alcohol around for a long time,

but what if there was no alcohol? Would there still be a gene for alcohol

abuse?

Cw

-- Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing

Gracia

it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that

your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in

families, where there is no thyroid disease.

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My father had an alcohol addiction - but I'm addicted to sweets in general,

dark chocolate in particular.

Dusty

Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing

Gracia

it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that

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When I was discussing the best way to lose weight one day with my doctor, I

teased

that I'd follow anything he suggested, except I had to have my chocolate. His

answer

was, Oh, another one. He probably is not, because he is very skinny.

Roni

nancie barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote:

well, I have to agree with the chocolate gene- my mom has one for dark

chocolate- bitter dark chocolate. but my dad has a serious addiction to

chocolate, too. that is why I am cursed! LOL

From: Roni Molin

Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:29 AM

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Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

Of course not! I have that gene.

Roni

nancie barnett wrote:

are you disagreeing with the concept?

From: Roni Molin

Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:18 AM

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Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

Hahahaha! I bet there is a chocolate gene, since so many people love it. What's

more,

the chocolate gene is much more common in women than men.

Roni

nancie barnett wrote:

alcohol abuse is what lead to the finding that gene. we started looking at the

genetic expression of alcholics and what they found was a genetic code that is

found in the majority of individuals and family members.

it is the same concept as in drug abuse.

From: Crystal

Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 4:52 PM

hypothyroidism

Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

I agree that things like that can run in families, however I do not think

genetics is involved. I know there has been alcohol around for a long time,

but what if there was no alcohol? Would there still be a gene for alcohol

abuse?

Cw

-- Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing

Gracia

it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that

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Now with the atrial fibrillation I have, I can't eat very much chocolate at one

time, so I guess

it's better for my invisible waist.

Roni

Dusty <dusty@...> wrote:

My father had an alcohol addiction - but I'm addicted to sweets in general,

dark chocolate in particular.

Dusty

Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing

Gracia

it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that

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do you remember when only men got heart disease? do you remember when heart

disease was determined to be genetic, and only the males carried the gene?

how are epidemics genetic? this is belef masquerading as science.

gracia

well, since thyroid disease is from faulty genes aka genetic code, it is

relevant. regardless of the cause of the thyroid disease it all comes down to a

defective gene or genes. some whhere in the genetic genome something caused the

thyroid to go faulty whether it is from an auto-immune trigger or from cancer or

simply a defective code sequence from unknown causes or from family history- it

is the genes that actually cause the problem.

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this is just confusion. this is how we end up with poor medical treatment.

gracia

it is not that it is hard for gracia- it is that she refuses to accept basic

facts concerning how the body functions. she is so against allopathic medicine

that she refuses to accept basic physiology and human biology which the natural

medicine providers all study to become a provider. genetics are the very basic

foundation of how the body works. it is like she forgets that she is made up of

genes and instead is made up from batteries or machine parts that tell her body

how to function. it is ridiculous.

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LOL

From: Gracia

Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 6:09 AM

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Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

do you remember when only men got heart disease? do you remember when heart

disease was determined to be genetic, and only the males carried the gene? how

are epidemics genetic? this is belef masquerading as science.

gracia

well, since thyroid disease is from faulty genes aka genetic code, it is

relevant. regardless of the cause of the thyroid disease it all comes down to a

defective gene or genes. some whhere in the genetic genome something caused the

thyroid to go faulty whether it is from an auto-immune trigger or from cancer or

simply a defective code sequence from unknown causes or from family history- it

is the genes that actually cause the problem.

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my step sister julia was just 35 when diagnosed with afib. she had to give up

chocolate for 5 years . now she can have it in tiny amounts.

she switched her addiction from chocolate to mints. lol

myself, I am not that big of an addict- compared to my parents. my real

addiction is to licorice, which if eaten in excess can cause severe pedal edema

and third spacing. I know from personal experience, lol

nancie

From: Roni Molin

Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:13 PM

hypothyroidism

Subject: RE: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

Now with the atrial fibrillation I have, I can't eat very much chocolate at one

time, so I guess

it's better for my invisible waist.

Roni

Dusty <dusty@...> wrote:

My father had an alcohol addiction - but I'm addicted to sweets in general,

dark chocolate in particular.

Dusty

Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing

Gracia

it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that

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Agreeing with a foolish and uninformed statement does not make it any

more likely correct.

>

> Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

>

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> Posted by: " Crystal " sweetnwright@...

>

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> sweetenloe1 <sweetenloe1>

>

>

> Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:33 pm (PDT)

>

> I don't think there is an alcoholic gene sorry. They say there is, but I

> doubt it! Gracia was basically saying that if they don't know the cause

> they blame genetics. I agree.

> cw

>

> -- Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

>

> Do you understand- that it is your genes that control every cell in your

> body which includes your thyroid?? so, of course it is going to be

> controlled by genetics!

[Guest guest]

There have been a number of studies that suggested that genetics may be

a factor in alcoholism. If you have a credible source that states that

such a gene has been discovered I'd appreciate a link.

What I've seen suggests there are probably a number of factors in the

tendency toward alcoholism, and that genetics _may_ be one of them; but

no conclusive evidence that I've seen.

> Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

>

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>

>

> Posted by: " Crystal " sweetnwright@...

>

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sm>

> sweetenloe1 <sweetenloe1>

>

>

> Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:33 pm (PDT)

>

> I don't think there is an alcoholic gene sorry. They say there is, but I

> doubt it! Gracia was basically saying that if they don't know the cause

> they blame genetics. I agree.

> cw

>

> -- Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

>

> Haha. I think they blame genetics way too often!

> cw

[Guest guest]

I'm afraid it's quite a bit more complicated than that. First of all,

AFAIK there has NOT been a gene identified for alcoholism; and if there

were to be it probably had some other original purpose. If anyone can

point to a link to contradict that I would appreciate it; because what I

don't know about genetics fills many books. But I do know that there

are genetic traits that skip generations; so that a person whose parents

both have black hair may have a child truly theirs who has red hair.

But there are expressed and unexpressed genes; although that's probably

not the correct terminology. For example, chickens have unexpressed

genes for teeth from the prehistoric time when they evolved from

dinosaurs. Scientists have found those genes and turned them on in

chick embryos, and they start to develop teeth. However, they do not

survive long enough to hatch; so you're not likely to be seeing a

chicken with teeth any time soon!

Humans probably have unexpressed genes from the time that we had tails

and lived in trees.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur>

>

> Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

>

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>

>

>

> Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@...

>

<mailto:matchermaam@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Hypothermia%20and%20hypothyroid\

ism>

> matchermaam <matchermaam>

>

>

> Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:06 pm (PDT)

>

> Have you ever heard of a gene defect? That is when there is a gene

> with a defect, and if both parents have the same defective gene, then

> the child gets the defective gene too. If only one parent has it, it's

> possible for a child of theirs not to have it.

> It has nothing to do with heredity, it has to do with what genes the

> child is made from. Since all the genes the child gets are from two

> sources, the mother and the father, those are the only two places that

> they can get their genes.

> Two copies of a gene means that the child got those copies from both

> parents and cannot avoid having the problem, other than never to drink

> at all.

> Haven't you ever wondered why some people can drink and not become

> addicted and some people do become addicted.? That is the reason.

> Again, it has notthing to do with what you believe. It's a fact.

>

> Roni

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.. we have found regions on chromosomes 1, 2, 7 and 11 that point to a

probable genetic source. here are some info:

http://www.ama-assn.org/amednews/2001/02/05/hlsa0205.htm

http://www.news-medical.net/?id=31694

http://www.niaaa.nih.gov/ResearchInformation/ExtramuralResearch/SharedResources/\

projcoga.htm

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/12242/genetics_and_alcoholism.html

nancie

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Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 1:40 PM

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I'm afraid it's quite a bit more complicated than that. First of all,

AFAIK there has NOT been a gene identified for alcoholism; and if there

were to be it probably had some other original purpose. If anyone can

point to a link to contradict that I would appreciate it; because what I

don't know about genetics fills many books. But I do know that there

are genetic traits that skip generations; so that a person whose parents

both have black hair may have a child truly theirs who has red hair.

But there are expressed and unexpressed genes; although that's probably

not the correct terminology. For example, chickens have unexpressed

genes for teeth from the prehistoric time when they evolved from

dinosaurs. Scientists have found those genes and turned them on in

chick embryos, and they start to develop teeth. However, they do not

survive long enough to hatch; so you're not likely to be seeing a

chicken with teeth any time soon!

Humans probably have unexpressed genes from the time that we had tails

and lived in trees.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur>

>

> Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

>

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>

>

>

> Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@...

>

<mailto:matchermaam@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Hypothermia%20and%20hypothyroid\

ism>

> matchermaam <matchermaam>

>

>

> Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:06 pm (PDT)

>

> Have you ever heard of a gene defect? That is when there is a gene

> with a defect, and if both parents have the same defective gene, then

> the child gets the defective gene too. If only one parent has it, it's

> possible for a child of theirs not to have it.

> It has nothing to do with heredity, it has to do with what genes the

> child is made from. Since all the genes the child gets are from two

> sources, the mother and the father, those are the only two places that

> they can get their genes.

> Two copies of a gene means that the child got those copies from both

> parents and cannot avoid having the problem, other than never to drink

> at all.

> Haven't you ever wondered why some people can drink and not become

> addicted and some people do become addicted.? That is the reason.

> Again, it has notthing to do with what you believe. It's a fact.

>

> Roni

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Are you saying that a specific gene has been identified; or is it more

an indication of a possible/probably genetic link? If such a gene has

been positively identified I'd appreciate a url to check it out. I

haven't heard of such. But then I'm not in a medical field...

>

>

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>

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>

>

> Posted by: " nancie barnett " deifspirit@...

>

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>

> aspenfairy1 <aspenfairy1>

>

>

> Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:52 pm (PDT)

>

> alcohol abuse is what lead to the finding that gene. we started

> looking at the genetic expression of alcholics and what they found was

> a genetic code that is found in the majority of individuals and family

> members.

> it is the same concept as in drug abuse.

>

> From: Crystal

> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 4:52 PM

> hypothyroidism

> <mailto:hypothyroidism%40>

> Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

>

> I agree that things like that can run in families, however I do not think

> genetics is involved. I know there has been alcohol around for a long

> time,

> but what if there was no alcohol? Would there still be a gene for alcohol

> abuse?

> Cw

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I don't like licorice, so that has never been a problem. I did enjoy coffee, and

a hershey bar

here and there, but alas these things are verboten with the afib. I have found

a happy alternative to the coffee in green teas(decaf), and of course, I can

drink decaf coffee, but it

is not exactly the same. Unfortunately, the hershey bar seems to be the

biggest culprit, can

you believe it? The small one I'm talking about. I have also tried a better

quality of chocolate

in small amounts, and I seem to be okay with that, so all is not lost, but I

haven't had any at all in months.

Roni

nancie barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote:

my step sister julia was just 35 when diagnosed with afib. she had to give up

chocolate for 5 years . now she can have it in tiny amounts.

she switched her addiction from chocolate to mints. lol

myself, I am not that big of an addict- compared to my parents. my real

addiction is to licorice, which if eaten in excess can cause severe pedal edema

and third spacing. I know from personal experience, lol

nancie

From: Roni Molin

Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:13 PM

hypothyroidism

Subject: RE: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

Now with the atrial fibrillation I have, I can't eat very much chocolate at one

time, so I guess

it's better for my invisible waist.

Roni

Dusty wrote:

My father had an alcohol addiction - but I'm addicted to sweets in general,

dark chocolate in particular.

Dusty

Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing

Gracia

it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that

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Garden of Life has a chocolate energy bar that is good and good for you.

Expensive though. I say this after I just shared a bag of m & m's with my

two girls:)

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I am aware that dark chocolate is good for you, and I love chocolate. However,

with Afib,

the caffeine in chocolate triggers the Afib, and that is not good.

Roni

Crystal <sweetnwright@...> wrote:

Garden of Life has a chocolate energy bar that is good and good for you.

Expensive though. I say this after I just shared a bag of m & m's with my

two girls:)

cw

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Poor thang. Speaking of caffeine. I'm getting a headache. Blah!

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Gracia, that's an utter crock. Please give a reference that states that

heart disease is exclusively genetic or that it is exclusively male.

Not even the iodine docs are that big a group of quacks...

>

> Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

>

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> Posted by: " Gracia " circe@...

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<mailto:circe@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Hypothermia%20and%20hypothyroidism>

> graciabee <graciabee>

>

>

> Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:02 am (PDT)

>

>

> do you remember when only men got heart disease? do you remember when

> heart disease was determined to be genetic, and only the males carried

> the gene? how are epidemics genetic? this is belef masquerading as

> science.

> gracia

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when I know I am going to have a latte- I just take more magnesium and extra

adrenal support, lol I have tried to give up coffee but I just can't do it. I

have cut down on the amount though. I don't necessarily drink it on a daily

basis anymore. if I am on call, then of course I will drink more, especially if

I have to leave the house in the middle of the night or end up being awake for

more than 24 hours....then I live in either peets; starbucks or coffee bean and

tea leaf coffee shops. lol

nancie

From: Roni Molin

Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 2:34 PM

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Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

I don't like licorice, so that has never been a problem. I did enjoy coffee, and

a hershey bar

here and there, but alas these things are verboten with the afib. I have found a

happy alternative to the coffee in green teas(decaf), and of course, I can drink

decaf coffee, but it

is not exactly the same. Unfortunately, the hershey bar seems to be the biggest

culprit, can

you believe it? The small one I'm talking about. I have also tried a better

quality of chocolate

in small amounts, and I seem to be okay with that, so all is not lost, but I

haven't had any at all in months.

Roni

nancie barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote:

my step sister julia was just 35 when diagnosed with afib. she had to give up

chocolate for 5 years . now she can have it in tiny amounts.

she switched her addiction from chocolate to mints. lol

myself, I am not that big of an addict- compared to my parents. my real

addiction is to licorice, which if eaten in excess can cause severe pedal edema

and third spacing. I know from personal experience, lol

nancie

From: Roni Molin

Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:13 PM

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Subject: RE: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

Now with the atrial fibrillation I have, I can't eat very much chocolate at one

time, so I guess

it's better for my invisible waist.

Roni

Dusty wrote:

My father had an alcohol addiction - but I'm addicted to sweets in general,

dark chocolate in particular.

Dusty

Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing

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james,

did you see my more recent post with some links?

From:

Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 2:15 PM

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Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

Are you saying that a specific gene has been identified; or is it more

an indication of a possible/probably genetic link? If such a gene has

been positively identified I'd appreciate a url to check it out. I

haven't heard of such. But then I'm not in a medical field...

>

>

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>

> Posted by: " nancie barnett " deifspirit@...

>

<mailto:deifspirit@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Hypothermia%20and%20hypothyroidism\

>

> aspenfairy1 <aspenfairy1>

>

>

> Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:52 pm (PDT)

>

> alcohol abuse is what lead to the finding that gene. we started

> looking at the genetic expression of alcholics and what they found was

> a genetic code that is found in the majority of individuals and family

> members.

> it is the same concept as in drug abuse.

>

> From: Crystal

> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 4:52 PM

> hypothyroidism

> <mailto:hypothyroidism%40>

> Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

>

> I agree that things like that can run in families, however I do not think

> genetics is involved. I know there has been alcohol around for a long

> time,

> but what if there was no alcohol? Would there still be a gene for alcohol

> abuse?

> Cw

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Nancie

What's exactly the co relation between magnesium and Hypo T?.What's the ideal

daily recommended dosage that we can take,if we do consume large amounts of

coffee?Thanks.Roseanne.

nancie barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote: when I know I am going to

have a latte- I just take more magnesium and extra adrenal support, lol I have

tried to give up coffee but I just can't do it. I have cut down on the amount

though. I don't necessarily drink it on a daily basis anymore. if I am on call,

then of course I will drink more, especially if I have to leave the house in the

middle of the night or end up being awake for more than 24 hours....then I live

in either peets; starbucks or coffee bean and tea leaf coffee shops. lol

nancie

From: Roni Molin

Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 2:34 PM

hypothyroidism

Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

I don't like licorice, so that has never been a problem. I did enjoy coffee, and

a hershey bar

here and there, but alas these things are verboten with the afib. I have found a

happy alternative to the coffee in green teas(decaf), and of course, I can drink

decaf coffee, but it

is not exactly the same. Unfortunately, the hershey bar seems to be the biggest

culprit, can

you believe it? The small one I'm talking about. I have also tried a better

quality of chocolate

in small amounts, and I seem to be okay with that, so all is not lost, but I

haven't had any at all in months.

Roni

nancie barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote:

my step sister julia was just 35 when diagnosed with afib. she had to give up

chocolate for 5 years . now she can have it in tiny amounts.

she switched her addiction from chocolate to mints. lol

myself, I am not that big of an addict- compared to my parents. my real

addiction is to licorice, which if eaten in excess can cause severe pedal edema

and third spacing. I know from personal experience, lol

nancie

From: Roni Molin

Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:13 PM

hypothyroidism

Subject: RE: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

Now with the atrial fibrillation I have, I can't eat very much chocolate at one

time, so I guess

it's better for my invisible waist.

Roni

Dusty wrote:

My father had an alcohol addiction - but I'm addicted to sweets in general,

dark chocolate in particular.

Dusty

Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing

Gracia

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well, magnesium is a muscle relaxant and it helps calm or decrease the heart

rate. I started taking it because I was not tolerating the armour dose increases

very well and I was getting tachycardia/rapid heart rate. so, another member

here suggested taking magnesium because I can't take iodine because of a severe

allergy to it. he too takes 600 mg a day. I started with that and then I

started getting diarrhea, so I backed down my dose to 500 mg per day. although

sometimes I take only 450 mg per day.

then I noticed that if I drank a lot of caffeine or espresso, that the 500 mg

wouldn't hold me, so I tried 600 mg again for those times and it has worked to

keep the heart rate down.

magnesium is not necessarily a hypo T treatment- it is usually used to calm the

heart rate as you adjust to the T1-3 in the armour.

it is used with calcium because calcium is constipating and magnesium can act as

a laxative.

SO, to answer you question what dose you should take, you will have to

experiment and see which dose works for you. they usually come in 150 mg and 450

mg strength capsules. and if you take calcium supplements, it is usually bundled

in the pill, so you need to account for that dose too. otherwise you will end up

with some bad diarrhea.

I hope I have helped.

peace,

nancie

From: Roseanne ralph

Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 12:07 AM

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Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

Nancie

What's exactly the co relation between magnesium and Hypo T?.What's the ideal

daily recommended dosage that we can take,if we do consume large amounts of

coffee?Thanks.Roseanne.

nancie barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote: when I know I am going to have a

latte- I just take more magnesium and extra adrenal support, lol I have tried to

give up coffee but I just can't do it. I have cut down on the amount though. I

don't necessarily drink it on a daily basis anymore. if I am on call, then of

course I will drink more, especially if I have to leave the house in the middle

of the night or end up being awake for more than 24 hours....then I live in

either peets; starbucks or coffee bean and tea leaf coffee shops. lol

nancie

From: Roni Molin

Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 2:34 PM

hypothyroidism

Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

I don't like licorice, so that has never been a problem. I did enjoy coffee, and

a hershey bar

here and there, but alas these things are verboten with the afib. I have found a

happy alternative to the coffee in green teas(decaf), and of course, I can drink

decaf coffee, but it

is not exactly the same. Unfortunately, the hershey bar seems to be the biggest

culprit, can

you believe it? The small one I'm talking about. I have also tried a better

quality of chocolate

in small amounts, and I seem to be okay with that, so all is not lost, but I

haven't had any at all in months.

Roni

nancie barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote:

my step sister julia was just 35 when diagnosed with afib. she had to give up

chocolate for 5 years . now she can have it in tiny amounts.

she switched her addiction from chocolate to mints. lol

myself, I am not that big of an addict- compared to my parents. my real

addiction is to licorice, which if eaten in excess can cause severe pedal edema

and third spacing. I know from personal experience, lol

nancie

From: Roni Molin

Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:13 PM

hypothyroidism

Subject: RE: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

Now with the atrial fibrillation I have, I can't eat very much chocolate at one

time, so I guess

it's better for my invisible waist.

Roni

Dusty wrote:

My father had an alcohol addiction - but I'm addicted to sweets in general,

dark chocolate in particular.

Dusty

Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism

genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing

Gracia

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your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in

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