Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Is Hypothermia necessarily a hypothyroidism indication ?Thanks.Roseanne. brian cooper <brianevans_99@...> wrote: Suzanne, You expressed concern that what you believe is low body temperature might affect your heart. Could you explain what kind of relationship or effect you're referring to, please. I'm aware that " low " body temperature has traditionally been considered one of many possible symptoms of hypo- thyroidism--although some supposed experts claim this had been largely discredited. In your case, if I understand correctly, you're being treated effectively (given your numbers) and feel well, I believe you said. I'm not sure what 36 degrees (Centigrade) translates to in Fahrenheit degrees (the scale we just can't seem to get away from here in the States). So even if it is also " low " as we would interpret that here--and that may be a relative term unless there is a scale of possible temperatures of living humans--I can't help wondering if healthy humans can't have a range of possible " normal " temperatures. I've heard of people with temperatures of 100 degrees not being ill, while others with that reading would have a " fever. " I'm just suggesting you may have a below-average normal temperature that needn't concern you unless your doctor or you know of why your particular temperature might gradually harm the heart... __________________________________________________________ --- hypothyroidism wrote: > There are 19 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1.1. Re: Kidney stones related to Armour __________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in families, where there is no thyroid disease. From: Roseanne ralph Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:05 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism Is Hypothermia necessarily a hypothyroidism indication ?Thanks.Roseanne. brian cooper <brianevans_99@...> wrote: Suzanne, You expressed concern that what you believe is low body temperature might affect your heart. Could you explain what kind of relationship or effect you're referring to, please. I'm aware that " low " body temperature has traditionally been considered one of many possible symptoms of hypo- thyroidism--although some supposed experts claim this had been largely discredited. In your case, if I understand correctly, you're being treated effectively (given your numbers) and feel well, I believe you said. I'm not sure what 36 degrees (Centigrade) translates to in Fahrenheit degrees (the scale we just can't seem to get away from here in the States). So even if it is also " low " as we would interpret that here--and that may be a relative term unless there is a scale of possible temperatures of living humans--I can't help wondering if healthy humans can't have a range of possible " normal " temperatures. I've heard of people with temperatures of 100 degrees not being ill, while others with that reading would have a " fever. " I'm just suggesting you may have a below-average normal temperature that needn't concern you unless your doctor or you know of why your particular temperature might gradually harm the heart... __________________________________________________________ --- hypothyroidism wrote: > There are 19 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1.1. Re: Kidney stones related to Armour __________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Yeah ,I sure have a slow metabolic rate Nancie.Any suggestions of how I may increase it safely please?.Thanks.Roseanne. nancie barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote: it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in families, where there is no thyroid disease. From: Roseanne ralph Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:05 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism Is Hypothermia necessarily a hypothyroidism indication ?Thanks.Roseanne. brian cooper <brianevans_99@...> wrote: Suzanne, You expressed concern that what you believe is low body temperature might affect your heart. Could you explain what kind of relationship or effect you're referring to, please. I'm aware that " low " body temperature has traditionally been considered one of many possible symptoms of hypo- thyroidism--although some supposed experts claim this had been largely discredited. In your case, if I understand correctly, you're being treated effectively (given your numbers) and feel well, I believe you said. I'm not sure what 36 degrees (Centigrade) translates to in Fahrenheit degrees (the scale we just can't seem to get away from here in the States). So even if it is also " low " as we would interpret that here--and that may be a relative term unless there is a scale of possible temperatures of living humans--I can't help wondering if healthy humans can't have a range of possible " normal " temperatures. I've heard of people with temperatures of 100 degrees not being ill, while others with that reading would have a " fever. " I'm just suggesting you may have a below-average normal temperature that needn't concern you unless your doctor or you know of why your particular temperature might gradually harm the heart... __________________________________________________________ --- hypothyroidism wrote: > There are 19 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1.1. Re: Kidney stones related to Armour __________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 treat your thyroid problem; plus lots of exercise with both weight training and aerobics; and a low fat /moderate protein diet. acupunture also works great with increasing your metabolism. behavioral modification can also help. plus the 4 rules to lose weight: .. eat when you are hungry; eat what you want; eat consciously; stop when you are full. if your adrenals are whacked out- treat your adrenals with either iodine or thru natural medicine via herbs and/or acupunture. I have a metabolism that is in a coma, LOL. so, I speak from experience. the above suggestions are the same ones as I tell my patients who have hypo T and/or slow metabolism peace, nancie From: Roseanne ralph Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 7:52 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism Yeah ,I sure have a slow metabolic rate Nancie.Any suggestions of how I may increase it safely please?.Thanks.Roseanne. nancie barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote: it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in families, where there is no thyroid disease. From: Roseanne ralph Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:05 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism Is Hypothermia necessarily a hypothyroidism indication ?Thanks.Roseanne. brian cooper <brianevans_99@...> wrote: Suzanne, You expressed concern that what you believe is low body temperature might affect your heart. Could you explain what kind of relationship or effect you're referring to, please. I'm aware that " low " body temperature has traditionally been considered one of many possible symptoms of hypo- thyroidism--although some supposed experts claim this had been largely discredited. In your case, if I understand correctly, you're being treated effectively (given your numbers) and feel well, I believe you said. I'm not sure what 36 degrees (Centigrade) translates to in Fahrenheit degrees (the scale we just can't seem to get away from here in the States). So even if it is also " low " as we would interpret that here--and that may be a relative term unless there is a scale of possible temperatures of living humans--I can't help wondering if healthy humans can't have a range of possible " normal " temperatures. I've heard of people with temperatures of 100 degrees not being ill, while others with that reading would have a " fever. " I'm just suggesting you may have a below-average normal temperature that needn't concern you unless your doctor or you know of why your particular temperature might gradually harm the heart... __________________________________________________________ --- hypothyroidism wrote: > There are 19 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1.1. Re: Kidney stones related to Armour __________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing Gracia it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in families, where there is no thyroid disease. Recent Activity a.. 11New Members Visit Your Group Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Health Achy Joint? Common arthritis myths debunked. Moderator Central An online resource for moderators of . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1391 - Release Date: 4/22/2008 8:15 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 Haha. I think they blame genetics way too often! cw -- Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing Gracia it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in families, where there is no thyroid disease. Recent Activity a.. 11New Members Visit Your Group Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Health Achy Joint? Common arthritis myths debunked. Moderator Central An online resource for moderators of . .. ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1391 - Release Date: 4/22/2008 8:15 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 I have traditionally run a low body temperature, but this winter has been the first time that my hands and especially me feet are freezing. The dermatologist says I have chilblains. I was dxd with Reynauds maybe 40 years ago, but it hasn't been a problem since then, till now, which the derm also says has to do with chilblains. I'm at amy wit's end with this. My feet are either so cold they turn red and blue and hurt like crazy, or if I put something on them they turn bright red like a lollipot and hurt, and itch and drive me crazy too. Roni Crystal <sweetnwright@...> wrote: Haha. I think they blame genetics way too often! cw -- Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing Gracia it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in families, where there is no thyroid disease. Recent Activity a.. 11New Members Visit Your Group Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Health Achy Joint? Common arthritis myths debunked. Moderator Central An online resource for moderators of . .. ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1391 - Release Date: 4/22/2008 8:15 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 do you understand- that it is your genes that control every cell in your body which includes your thyroid?? so, of course it is going to be controlled by genetics! From: Crystal Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:44 AM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism Haha. I think they blame genetics way too often! cw -- Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing Gracia it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in families, where there is no thyroid disease. Recent Activity a.. 11New Members Visit Your Group Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Health Achy Joint? Common arthritis myths debunked. Moderator Central An online resource for moderators of . .. ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1391 - Release Date: 4/22/2008 8:15 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 it is oblivious that you have no concept of how the human body functions; it is controlled by genes. every cell in the body is controlled by genes that tells it how to function cells make up tissues and tissue make up organs and organs make up organ systems. so the genes which control the cells are telling the thyroid organ how to work.. maybe you should take a class so that you can learn about the human body before you go spouting off with insane comments like that. From: Gracia Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 7:36 AM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing Gracia it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in families, where there is no thyroid disease. Recent Activity a.. 11New Members Visit Your Group Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Health Achy Joint? Common arthritis myths debunked. Moderator Central An online resource for moderators of . .. ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1391 - Release Date: 4/22/2008 8:15 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 roni- is that condition spelled correctly? nancie From: Roni Molin Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:43 AM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism I have traditionally run a low body temperature, but this winter has been the first time that my hands and especially me feet are freezing. The dermatologist says I have chilblains. I was dxd with Reynauds maybe 40 years ago, but it hasn't been a problem since then, till now, which the derm also says has to do with chilblains. I'm at amy wit's end with this. My feet are either so cold they turn red and blue and hurt like crazy, or if I put something on them they turn bright red like a lollipot and hurt, and itch and drive me crazy too. Roni Crystal <sweetnwright@...> wrote: Haha. I think they blame genetics way too often! cw -- Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing Gracia it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in families, where there is no thyroid disease. Recent Activity a.. 11New Members Visit Your Group Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Health Achy Joint? Common arthritis myths debunked. Moderator Central An online resource for moderators of . .. ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1391 - Release Date: 4/22/2008 8:15 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 Yes, it is Nancie. Roni nancie barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote: roni- is that condition spelled correctly? nancie From: Roni Molin Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:43 AM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism I have traditionally run a low body temperature, but this winter has been the first time that my hands and especially me feet are freezing. The dermatologist says I have chilblains. I was dxd with Reynauds maybe 40 years ago, but it hasn't been a problem since then, till now, which the derm also says has to do with chilblains. I'm at amy wit's end with this. My feet are either so cold they turn red and blue and hurt like crazy, or if I put something on them they turn bright red like a lollipot and hurt, and itch and drive me crazy too. Roni Crystal wrote: Haha. I think they blame genetics way too often! cw -- Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing Gracia it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in families, where there is no thyroid disease. Recent Activity a.. 11New Members Visit Your Group Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Health Achy Joint? Common arthritis myths debunked. Moderator Central An online resource for moderators of . .. ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1391 - Release Date: 4/22/2008 8:15 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 Nancie, There are some concepts that are harder for some to grasp than others. Control of the body by genes is one of them. Thank you for your always informative posts. Roni nancie barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote: it is oblivious that you have no concept of how the human body functions; it is controlled by genes. every cell in the body is controlled by genes that tells it how to function cells make up tissues and tissue make up organs and organs make up organ systems. so the genes which control the cells are telling the thyroid organ how to work.. maybe you should take a class so that you can learn about the human body before you go spouting off with insane comments like that. From: Gracia Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 7:36 AM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing Gracia it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in families, where there is no thyroid disease. Recent Activity a.. 11New Members Visit Your Group Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Health Achy Joint? Common arthritis myths debunked. Moderator Central An online resource for moderators of . .. ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1391 - Release Date: 4/22/2008 8:15 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 Nancie, Because you and I and others understand how the body works, a reference to " genetics " is a statement refering to certain cellular functioning, BUT in my experience, when many people hear the phrase " it's genetic " , they think that means it's something that they inherited from their parent's estate, and just have to live with. It's a perceptual misunderstanding. For example, a dermatologist will tell a patient that eczema is a " genetic " condition, and rx some cream, rather than exploring, for example, a possible (genetic) GI malfunction. And the patient leaves, thinking that they got a rash from their mom that can't be controlled because they are stuck being who they are. Marla > > it is oblivious that you have no concept of how the human body functions; it is controlled by genes. every cell in the body is controlled by genes that tells it how to function cells make up tissues and tissue make up organs and organs make up organ systems. so the genes which control the cells are telling the thyroid organ how to work.. maybe you should take a class so that you can learn about the human body before you go spouting off with insane comments like that. > > > From: Gracia > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 7:36 AM > hypothyroidism > Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism > > > > genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing > Gracia > > it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in families, where there is no thyroid disease. > > Recent Activity > a.. 11New Members > Visit Your Group > Meditation and > Lovingkindness > > A Group > > to share and learn. > > Health > Achy Joint? > > Common arthritis > > myths debunked. > > Moderator Central > An online resource > > for moderators > > of . > . > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1391 - Release Date: 4/22/2008 8:15 AM > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 I don't think there is an alcoholic gene sorry. They say there is, but I doubt it! Gracia was basically saying that if they don't know the cause they blame genetics. I agree. cw -- Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing Gracia it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in families, where there is no thyroid disease. Recent Activity a.. 11New Members Visit Your Group Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Health Achy Joint? Common arthritis myths debunked. Moderator Central An online resource for moderators of . ... ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1391 - Release Date: 4/22/2008 8:15 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 I know for a fact that you are wrong. Alcoholism generally runs in families, and I personally know families where the problem showed up in multiple generations. Belief has nothing to do with it. It's the same as not believing your children will have some of your characteristics. They will, that's all there is to it. Roni Crystal <sweetnwright@...> wrote: I don't think there is an alcoholic gene sorry. They say there is, but I doubt it! Gracia was basically saying that if they don't know the cause they blame genetics. I agree. cw -- Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing Gracia it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in families, where there is no thyroid disease. Recent Activity a.. 11New Members Visit Your Group Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Health Achy Joint? Common arthritis myths debunked. Moderator Central An online resource for moderators of . ... ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1391 - Release Date: 4/22/2008 8:15 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 Alcoholism is a rather environmental predisposition than a genetic disposition.The environment encourages rather then heredity ,in other words.Roseanne. Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: I know for a fact that you are wrong. Alcoholism generally runs in families, and I personally know families where the problem showed up in multiple generations. Belief has nothing to do with it. It's the same as not believing your children will have some of your characteristics. They will, that's all there is to it. Roni Crystal <sweetnwright@...> wrote: I don't think there is an alcoholic gene sorry. They say there is, but I doubt it! Gracia was basically saying that if they don't know the cause they blame genetics. I agree. cw -- Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing Gracia it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in families, where there is no thyroid disease. Recent Activity a.. 11New Members Visit Your Group Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Health Achy Joint? Common arthritis myths debunked. Moderator Central An online resource for moderators of . .... ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1391 - Release Date: 4/22/2008 8:15 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 I agree that things like that can run in families, however I do not think genetics is involved. I know there has been alcohol around for a long time, but what if there was no alcohol? Would there still be a gene for alcohol abuse? Cw -- Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing Gracia it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in families, where there is no thyroid disease. Recent Activity a.. 11New Members Visit Your Group Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Health Achy Joint? Common arthritis myths debunked. Moderator Central An online resource for moderators of . .... ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1391 - Release Date: 4/22/2008 8:15 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 Have you ever heard of a gene defect? That is when there is a gene with a defect, and if both parents have the same defective gene, then the child gets the defective gene too. If only one parent has it, it's possible for a child of theirs not to have it. It has nothing to do with heredity, it has to do with what genes the child is made from. Since all the genes the child gets are from two sources, the mother and the father, those are the only two places that they can get their genes. Two copies of a gene means that the child got those copies from both parents and cannot avoid having the problem, other than never to drink at all. Haven't you ever wondered why some people can drink and not become addicted and some people do become addicted.? That is the reason. Again, it has notthing to do with what you believe. It's a fact. Roni Crystal <sweetnwright@...> wrote: I agree that things like that can run in families, however I do not think genetics is involved. I know there has been alcohol around for a long time, but what if there was no alcohol? Would there still be a gene for alcohol abuse? Cw -- Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing Gracia it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in families, where there is no thyroid disease. Recent Activity a.. 11New Members Visit Your Group Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Health Achy Joint? Common arthritis myths debunked. Moderator Central An online resource for moderators of . .... ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1391 - Release Date: 4/22/2008 8:15 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 it is not that it is hard for gracia- it is that she refuses to accept basic facts concerning how the body functions. she is so against allopathic medicine that she refuses to accept basic physiology and human biology which the natural medicine providers all study to become a provider. genetics are the very basic foundation of how the body works. it is like she forgets that she is made up of genes and instead is made up from batteries or machine parts that tell her body how to function. it is ridiculous. From: Roni Molin Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 3:47 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism Nancie, There are some concepts that are harder for some to grasp than others. Control of the body by genes is one of them. Thank you for your always informative posts. Roni nancie barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote: it is oblivious that you have no concept of how the human body functions; it is controlled by genes. every cell in the body is controlled by genes that tells it how to function cells make up tissues and tissue make up organs and organs make up organ systems. so the genes which control the cells are telling the thyroid organ how to work.. maybe you should take a class so that you can learn about the human body before you go spouting off with insane comments like that. From: Gracia Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 7:36 AM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing Gracia it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in families, where there is no thyroid disease. Recent Activity a.. 11New Members Visit Your Group Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Health Achy Joint? Common arthritis myths debunked. Moderator Central An online resource for moderators of . .. ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1391 - Release Date: 4/22/2008 8:15 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 no, she says that about any time I write about genetics. she just refuses to believe in genetics which is odd, since genetics are what controls our organs including the thyroid- so if the genes are faulty then the thyroid doesn't work. there are so many different substances that can cause the genes to change; the environment; foods we eat; chemicals we ingest; radiation; chemo; appliances; high voltage power lines; pesticides; etc. btw, I wasn't talking about an alcoholic gene- where did that come from? I was speaking about the fact that low body temps can run in families; which means it is coded into their genes [ genetics] even without having a thyroid problem. I saw that during my endocrinology rotations in grad school. From: Crystal Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 4:33 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism I don't think there is an alcoholic gene sorry. They say there is, but I doubt it! Gracia was basically saying that if they don't know the cause they blame genetics. I agree. cw -- Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing Gracia it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in families, where there is no thyroid disease. Recent Activity a.. 11New Members Visit Your Group Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Health Achy Joint? Common arthritis myths debunked. Moderator Central An online resource for moderators of . ... ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1391 - Release Date: 4/22/2008 8:15 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 alcohol abuse is what lead to the finding that gene. we started looking at the genetic expression of alcholics and what they found was a genetic code that is found in the majority of individuals and family members. it is the same concept as in drug abuse. From: Crystal Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 4:52 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism I agree that things like that can run in families, however I do not think genetics is involved. I know there has been alcohol around for a long time, but what if there was no alcohol? Would there still be a gene for alcohol abuse? Cw -- Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing Gracia it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in families, where there is no thyroid disease. Recent Activity a.. 11New Members Visit Your Group Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Health Achy Joint? Common arthritis myths debunked. Moderator Central An online resource for moderators of . .... ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1391 - Release Date: 4/22/2008 8:15 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 ah aka trench foot. that name through me- I had forgotten that name. From: Roni Molin Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 2:45 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism Yes, it is Nancie. Roni nancie barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote: roni- is that condition spelled correctly? nancie From: Roni Molin Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:43 AM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism I have traditionally run a low body temperature, but this winter has been the first time that my hands and especially me feet are freezing. The dermatologist says I have chilblains. I was dxd with Reynauds maybe 40 years ago, but it hasn't been a problem since then, till now, which the derm also says has to do with chilblains. I'm at amy wit's end with this. My feet are either so cold they turn red and blue and hurt like crazy, or if I put something on them they turn bright red like a lollipot and hurt, and itch and drive me crazy too. Roni Crystal wrote: Haha. I think they blame genetics way too often! cw -- Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing Gracia it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in families, where there is no thyroid disease. Recent Activity a.. 11New Members Visit Your Group Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Health Achy Joint? Common arthritis myths debunked. Moderator Central An online resource for moderators of . .. ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1391 - Release Date: 4/22/2008 8:15 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 I was backing up what Gracia said. She said, " genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing. " Basically meaning when researchers are trying to understand a certain " thing, " and they don't understand it, they blame genes. Didn't know it would get this big discussion. cw -- Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing Gracia it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in families, where there is no thyroid disease. Recent Activity a.. 11New Members Visit Your Group Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Health Achy Joint? Common arthritis myths debunked. Moderator Central An online resource for moderators of . .... ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1391 - Release Date: 4/22/2008 8:15 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 well, since thyroid disease is from faulty genes aka genetic code, it is relevant. regardless of the cause of the thyroid disease it all comes down to a defective gene or genes. some whhere in the genetic genome something caused the thyroid to go faulty whether it is from an auto-immune trigger or from cancer or simply a defective code sequence from unknown causes or from family history- it is the genes that actually cause the problem. From: Crystal Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:52 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism I was backing up what Gracia said. She said, " genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing. " Basically meaning when researchers are trying to understand a certain " thing, " and they don't understand it, they blame genes. Didn't know it would get this big discussion. cw -- Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing Gracia it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in families, where there is no thyroid disease. Recent Activity a.. 11New Members Visit Your Group Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Health Achy Joint? Common arthritis myths debunked. Moderator Central An online resource for moderators of . .... ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1391 - Release Date: 4/22/2008 8:15 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Hahahaha! I bet there is a chocolate gene, since so many people love it. What's more, the chocolate gene is much more common in women than men. Roni nancie barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote: alcohol abuse is what lead to the finding that gene. we started looking at the genetic expression of alcholics and what they found was a genetic code that is found in the majority of individuals and family members. it is the same concept as in drug abuse. From: Crystal Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 4:52 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism I agree that things like that can run in families, however I do not think genetics is involved. I know there has been alcohol around for a long time, but what if there was no alcohol? Would there still be a gene for alcohol abuse? Cw -- Re: Hypothermia and hypothyroidism genetic must be a code word for we do not know WTF we are doing Gracia it is one of the symptoms of hypo T. having a low temp is also a sign that your metabolism is slow. but it also can be genetic- that is it can run in families, where there is no thyroid disease. Recent Activity a.. 11New Members Visit Your Group Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Health Achy Joint? Common arthritis myths debunked. Moderator Central An online resource for moderators of . .... ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1391 - Release Date: 4/22/2008 8:15 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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