help

[Guest guest]

I recently had to reduce my LDN to 1.5mg. I started at 3.0 in Feb this year, but over the last 2 or 3 months have become extremely stiff, had spasms in my back at night, and lost the improved mood LDN seemed to have given me. I'm doing better on 1.5. The stiffness is much reduced, and my mood is better. Perhaps you need to try 1.5 for a while, then go back to 3.0? I know that 1.5 is not recommended for the long haul, but maybe for a "break in" period?

JT

----- Original Message -----

From: A T

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 4:31 PM

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] help

i need a little help down here. please i am talking about the effects of LDN on me. i am feeling "chronically negative", even malaise. __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

What if you alternate ...one night 3 mg and another 1.5....

Zora

> I recently had to reduce my LDN to 1.5mg. I started at 3.0 in Feb

this year, but over the last 2 or 3 months have become extremely

stiff, had spasms in my back at night, and lost the improved mood

LDN seemed to have given me. I'm doing better on 1.5. The

stiffness is much reduced, and my mood is better. Perhaps you need

to try 1.5 for a while, then go back to 3.0? I know that 1.5 is not

recommended for the long haul, but maybe for a " break in " period?

>

> JT

>

[Guest guest]

I'll try that after I've been comfortable long enough to start enjoying things again... Good idea, thank you.

----- Original Message -----

From: Zora

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 5:41 PM

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: help

What if you alternate ...one night 3 mg and another 1.5....Zora> I recently had to reduce my LDN to 1.5mg. I started at 3.0 in Feb this year, but over the last 2 or 3 months have become extremely stiff, had spasms in my back at night, and lost the improved mood LDN seemed to have given me. I'm doing better on 1.5. The stiffness is much reduced, and my mood is better. Perhaps you need to try 1.5 for a while, then go back to 3.0? I know that 1.5 is not recommended for the long haul, but maybe for a "break in" period?> > JT>

[Guest guest]

,

After my first three shots, I had several days of feeling horrible. I had

flu-like symptoms, severe headaches, fatigue (couldn't get out of bed), terrible

body aches. I desperately wanted to stick it out and didn't know if I could,

because the symptoms were so debilitating and lasted several days each time.

I talked to a nurse from Novafactor, one of the Xolair distributors, who

handled most of the patient calls for that company. She told me that in the few

people that had difficult side effects, they usually found that they decreased

significantly over time, to the point where they either totally diminished or

became tolerable.

I found that to be true in my case. Actually, I stopped having any of those

side effects after the third or fourth shot. I've had eight series of shots now

(I'm on the highest dose, every two weeks) and the last several sets have

been fine.

Only you can decide if it's worth a try to continue a bit longer. Maybe you

can set a number in your mind about how many times you'll try it. I had decided

to really try to stick it out for at least eight or 10 shots to see if it

changed, but luckily it got better well before that point.

Best of luck with whatever you decide.

Meryl

Hi

Yesterday was Xolair day. I got sick yesterday from it and am not

feeling so good right now. I have a slight fever and chills. I also

lost lunch and dinner. I am starting to think that this isnt worth

it. I have read a few horror stories about the XOlair on another sight

and I am so confused. I honestly am not sure what to do. I so

desperately want it to work. And thus far it has made me ill all 4

times. I am so confused and I just dont know. I laid in bed and just

cried lastnight. Did the same this morning. I just dont know.

My father thinks that I never should of gone on it and that it was my

decision. My mother thinks I should just stick it out. They said

they'll support me. And I know it my descision but I am just so confused.

Just at a loss for what to do. any thoughts or comments would be

appreciated!

Thank you

[Guest guest]

> Hi

>

> Yesterday was Xolair day. I got sick yesterday from it and am not

> feeling so good right now. I have a slight fever and chills. I also

> lost lunch and dinner. I am starting to think that this isnt worth

> it. I have read a few horror stories about the XOlair on another

sight

> and I am so confused. I honestly am not sure what to do. I so

> desperately want it to work. And thus far it has made me ill all 4

> times. I am so confused and I just dont know. I laid in bed and just

> cried lastnight. Did the same this morning. I just dont know.

>

> My father thinks that I never should of gone on it and that it was

my

> decision. My mother thinks I should just stick it out. They said

> they'll support me. And I know it my descision but I am just so

confused.

>

> Just at a loss for what to do. any thoughts or comments would be

> appreciated!

>

> Thank you

>

>

,

I have been on Xolair since 2003. Most people do not have any

problems at all. I highly suggest you call your doctor.

Doug

Group founder

[Guest guest]

Hi Ed,

I had some difficult side effects for the first several shots and most of

them eventually passed. Can you say what kind of side effects your wife had?

Mine were mainly very severe flu-like symptoms that lasted several days each

time.

Thanks,

Meryl

Hi:

I'm new to the group. My wife was put on Xolair for her out of

control asthma, but after four injections, she decided to stop the

shots, as she developed some pretty nasty symptoms. We are trying to

decide if they developed as a result of Xolair or if the timing was

just coincidence. Hopefully, we can learn from those of you who have

more experience with the drug. Thanks.

Ed

> Hi

>

> Yesterday was Xolair day. I got sick yesterday from it and am not

> feeling so good right now. I have a slight fever and chills. I also

> lost lunch and dinner. I am starting to think that this isnt worth

> it. I have read a few horror stories about the XOlair on another

sight

> and I am so confused.

[Guest guest]

Hi:

I'm new to the group. My wife was put on Xolair for her out of

control asthma, but after four injections, she decided to stop the

shots, as she developed some pretty nasty symptoms. We are trying to

decide if they developed as a result of Xolair or if the timing was

just coincidence. Hopefully, we can learn from those of you who have

more experience with the drug. Thanks.

Ed

> Hi

>

> Yesterday was Xolair day. I got sick yesterday from it and am not

> feeling so good right now. I have a slight fever and chills. I also

> lost lunch and dinner. I am starting to think that this isnt worth

> it. I have read a few horror stories about the XOlair on another

sight

> and I am so confused.

[Guest guest]

Ed,

Welcome to the group.

We have had some users report side effects when starting, most of

which have seemed to pass after a month or two. We did have one

user with a fairly low IgE score and only mild asthma who tried

Xolair and did have considerable difficulty with it and decided to

stop.

I did not experience any side effects that I associate to Xolair,

but I did experience some considerable side effects from pred

withdrawal, despite being careful about tapering down, etc. Also,

now that I no longer need pred, I've noticed that I am starting to

have early onset arthritis (it runs in my family) - I'm sure the

aching and swelling in my right and foot would have shown up earlier

except that I was taking all that pred.

Addy

> Hi:

> I'm new to the group. My wife was put on Xolair for her out of

> control asthma, but after four injections, she decided to stop the

> shots, as she developed some pretty nasty symptoms. We are trying

to

> decide if they developed as a result of Xolair or if the timing

was

> just coincidence. Hopefully, we can learn from those of you who

have

> more experience with the drug. Thanks.

> Ed

> --- In , " rissaaaa " <rissaaaa@y...>

wrote:

> > Hi

> >

> > Yesterday was Xolair day. I got sick yesterday from it and am not

> > feeling so good right now. I have a slight fever and chills. I

also

> > lost lunch and dinner. I am starting to think that this isnt

worth

> > it. I have read a few horror stories about the XOlair on another

> sight

> > and I am so confused.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for getting back to us. My wife developed flu like symptoms as well, but

she also had pretty severe muscle weakness and pain that made it hard for her to

get around. Her allergist said that she had about 22 patients on the injections,

and hadn't seen that side effect with any others, but advised my wife to stop

the shots anyway, at least until more was known about Xolair. Kind of like

offering to wave a magic wand and then finding out that the wand is broken!

Ed

[Guest guest]

Addy:

Do u know why the user decided to go on Xolair if the IgE's were low

to begin with? Thanks,....

XAVIER

> > > Hi

> > >

> > > Yesterday was Xolair day. I got sick yesterday from it and am

not

> > > feeling so good right now. I have a slight fever and chills. I

> also

> > > lost lunch and dinner. I am starting to think that this isnt

> worth

> > > it. I have read a few horror stories about the XOlair on

another

> > sight

> > > and I am so confused.

[Guest guest]

Hello :

Sometime asthma has an acid reflux component that can irritate the

bronchials. Perhaps you may want to consult with a

Gastroenterologist. Also, you might consider posting what you have

and the symptoms you felt before you decided to take Xolair. Some

members of the group may beable then to provide other ideas to help

you. Hang in there,....

XAVIER

> Hi

>

> Yesterday was Xolair day. I got sick yesterday from it and am not

> feeling so good right now. I have a slight fever and chills. I also

> lost lunch and dinner. I am starting to think that this isnt worth

> it. I have read a few horror stories about the XOlair on another

sight

> and I am so confused. I honestly am not sure what to do. I so

> desperately want it to work. And thus far it has made me ill all 4

> times. I am so confused and I just dont know. I laid in bed and just

> cried lastnight. Did the same this morning. I just dont know.

>

> My father thinks that I never should of gone on it and that it was

my

> decision. My mother thinks I should just stick it out. They said

> they'll support me. And I know it my descision but I am just so

confused.

>

> Just at a loss for what to do. any thoughts or comments would be

> appreciated!

>

> Thank you

>

>

[Guest guest]

As I recall her doctor thought it would be worth a try. Seems like

bad medicine to me, as Xolair has been recommended for moderate to

severe allergic asthma that hasn't responded to the more traditional

(and cheaper) therapies. Perhaps neither the doctor or the patient

had received sufficient education about Xolair to make a wise

choice, I don't know. Everyone has to do his/her own cost/benefit

analysis in consulation with his/her physician. Both my pulmo and

my family doc thought Xolair could be a miracle med for me. So far

it has been!

Addy

> > > > Hi

> > > >

> > > > Yesterday was Xolair day. I got sick yesterday from it and

am

> not

> > > > feeling so good right now. I have a slight fever and chills.

I

> > also

> > > > lost lunch and dinner. I am starting to think that this

isnt

> > worth

> > > > it. I have read a few horror stories about the XOlair on

> another

> > > sight

> > > > and I am so confused.

[Guest guest]

I know someone who (had) hep c- he called the Pegassist people, and was able to

get meds for free- he has injected once a week and taken pills daily. The

injections are full of benzene, so I have talked him into doing flushes (he

plans on doing). As far as the hep goes, his viral count is less than 50 now,

when it was in the millions. The hep c meds are very rough and made him feel

ill, but he hung in there, quit drinking, pills, etc- but I still stress on the

parasite cleansing and liver flushing after. I am glad they have assisstant

programs, cause the hep meds cost over 4000$.

There is never one stone. It is hundreds piled up together, and docs can't

detect them.

As far as wanting to take the gallbladder, read all the info online, there is

alot and go with instinct. There are a lot of people who say they dont have

their gallbladder, but still had stones when they did a flush.

Check out www.kitchendoctor.com

There is good info on gall.

bioenergy2010@... wrote:

Hi everyone,

My brother is in hospital with intense abdominal

pain [deep,knifelike, in the area around the navel.}

He has a large gallstone, but the tests they have done

show the gallbladder is functioning well, the stone is

not in a duct and there does'nt seem to be any

infection. They have done a cat scan, an MRI,blood

work, and all the standard lab tests and can't find

anything. He has also had some vomiting, and diarrhea

and belching. He is on pain IV meds every 2hrs,

antibiotics,and pepcid. He also has hep c. But they

say his Liver enzymes and function look good.Now they

are saying they want to take his gallbladder even

though the pain area does'nt make sense for that. They

are also running a stool check tonight. Awhile back

someone wrote about a similar attack and it seems

there was a nerve involved in the intestines. Anyone

have any info???? Thanks . Carmen

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Greetings all

I am sorry to hear about your brother.

Please search the archives for that message. I am

sorry I can not off hand remember the month.

Success, we will pray for the answer to be reveled in

time.

nieema

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I hope this message finds you and yours in the

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Have a look, see some of the new information.

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[Guest guest]

sounds like you need a liver cleanse.kidney cleanse and parasite cleanse first

though.like dr.clark recommends.

L L <xairai18@...> wrote:I know someone who (had) hep c- he called the

Pegassist people, and was able to get meds for free- he has injected once a week

and taken pills daily. The injections are full of benzene, so I have talked him

into doing flushes (he plans on doing). As far as the hep goes, his viral count

is less than 50 now, when it was in the millions. The hep c meds are very rough

and made him feel ill, but he hung in there, quit drinking, pills, etc- but I

still stress on the parasite cleansing and liver flushing after. I am glad they

have assisstant programs, cause the hep meds cost over 4000$.

There is never one stone. It is hundreds piled up together, and docs can't

detect them.

As far as wanting to take the gallbladder, read all the info online, there is

alot and go with instinct. There are a lot of people who say they dont have

their gallbladder, but still had stones when they did a flush.

Check out www.kitchendoctor.com

There is good info on gall.

bioenergy2010@... wrote:

Hi everyone,

My brother is in hospital with intense abdominal

pain [deep,knifelike, in the area around the navel.}

He has a large gallstone, but the tests they have done

show the gallbladder is functioning well, the stone is

not in a duct and there does'nt seem to be any

infection. They have done a cat scan, an MRI,blood

work, and all the standard lab tests and can't find

anything. He has also had some vomiting, and diarrhea

and belching. He is on pain IV meds every 2hrs,

antibiotics,and pepcid. He also has hep c. But they

say his Liver enzymes and function look good.Now they

are saying they want to take his gallbladder even

though the pain area does'nt make sense for that. They

are also running a stool check tonight. Awhile back

someone wrote about a similar attack and it seems

there was a nerve involved in the intestines. Anyone

have any info???? Thanks . Carmen

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--- tyee1943 <donnad222@...> wrote:

> My nebulizer just died, and with so many out there

> ????

>

> Can anyone recommend one??? {Utrasonic and portable}

>

> Thanks a bunch

> Donna (WA.)

>

>

>

Donna,

I have been using a neb machine for over 15 years. The

most durable brand I have ever used is Devilbiss.

I also have an Omron portable that I can use on the

road. It as been very reliable too. There is a picture

of it in the picture area of this group.

Doug

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I have had a Pulmo-Aide nebulizer for 20 years and even travelled with it, until

I needed a portable one I could carry when I flew anywhere. My portable one is

Sunrise--a very good brand, but if I had it to do over again, I would go ahead

and get one that was also battery powered, even though the batteries cost more

than the machine itself. One night recently, we had a severe thunderstorm and

the power was off in the middle of the night for about an hour--no fan, no a/c,

but fortunately we could open a couple of windows without the rain blowing in

and our bedroom stayed cool enough. But that was a scary time for me, and I

realized that a battery powered neb would have been nice. Oh well--maybe after

the xolair I won't need the nebulizer at all. I only use it periodically

anyway. By the way, my insurance would pay for the machine, but not for the

batteries or the replacements. My other suggestion is to find one that has a

rechargeable battery and is also a " plug-in. "

Adah

Doug Beasley <uca79iii@...> wrote:

--- tyee1943 <donnad222@...> wrote:

> My nebulizer just died, and with so many out there

> ????

>

> Can anyone recommend one??? {Utrasonic and portable}

>

> Thanks a bunch

> Donna (WA.)

>

>

>

Donna,

I have been using a neb machine for over 15 years. The

most durable brand I have ever used is Devilbiss.

I also have an Omron portable that I can use on the

road. It as been very reliable too. There is a picture

of it in the picture area of this group.

Doug

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Thanks Doug, and Adah!!!

Guess it's time to go shopping.

Donna

[Guest guest]

I have an Aeroneb Go and LOVE it!!! I had a mystique (?? - I think that's

the name of my old one) and hated having to recharge the battery pack. This

one takes AA batteries so I never worry about it going dead and not being

near a charger.

http://www.aerogen.com/products/aeronebgo.htm

(in very hot bama)

[Guest guest]

That is great. Guess I didn't do my homework very well, though I haven't minded

the little plug in one I got. It is easy to pack and I carry it with me just in

case! I still may look at the Aeroneb since it is what I was trying to find to

begin with, but none of the medical equipment comp. here mentioned it, nor did I

find it listed anywhere. Guess I just didn't look hard enough or ask enough

questions.

Adah

Grimes <rrgrimes_u3@...> wrote:

I have an Aeroneb Go and LOVE it!!! I had a mystique (?? - I think

that's

the name of my old one) and hated having to recharge the battery pack. This

one takes AA batteries so I never worry about it going dead and not being

near a charger.

http://www.aerogen.com/products/aeronebgo.htm

(in very hot bama)

[Guest guest]

I know this site is about the xolair, but the information shared on other

related issues such as neb machines is so helpful.

Adah

Volz <busnun@...> wrote:

Hi,

I have been using a Sigma Neb Compact ultrasonic Nebulizer. It is very easy to

use and it was less expensive that the full sized one I have in Chicago. It is

very quiet and comes with a battery, car connection and regular electricity. I

went to a medical equipement place.

Check it out on line at WWW.SIGMARX.com. I like mine and it has a minimal drug

loss and takes less time. I like that and being very economical...

Sr. Volz, C.R.

tyee1943 <donnad222@...> wrote:

My nebulizer just died, and with so many out there ????

Can anyone recommend one??? {Utrasonic and portable}

Thanks a bunch

Donna (WA.)

---------------------------------

Do you ?

Get on board. You're invited to try the new Beta.

[Guest guest]

>

> I know this site is about the xolair, but the information shared on

other related issues such as neb machines is so helpful.

>

> Adah

>

>

Adah,

Your post is about asthma and something your doctor prescribed. Not a

problem

[Guest guest]

I have found no matter what you do you still have those stones so

you have to keep flushing---and taking a good digestive enzyme when

you eat a big meal.

I too have been biking, eating less meat, much more fruit/veggies

and I had a tiny pain in the right side--typical of GB. Just a few

weeks ago.

Best thing to do when you get one of these in my opinion is to get

some epsom salts in you right away.

Take a good two tablespoons in some kind of juice so you can get it

down.

It will release debris in the duct if you have stones stuck in there.

But this doesn't get you off--still have to do another flush.

Once you do one you should be ok until you mess up again.

Losing weight or gaining will also cause another attack.

The key is to totally clean out the GB and to change your diet --you

still need some fats/protein just make sure when you eat them always

take that digestive enzyme!!!

the body still needs them just not in large amounts--you need to use

the GB but it's very hard for it to work when it's filled with

stones--thus the attack.

tina

>

> OK I haven't been on here in a while. I had been successful at

keeping my

> gb attacks away with diet. Then I had been eating not so well for

a few

> months, I gained back some weight but now I'm on the right track

again.

> However, for the last 2 days I've had gb attacks. These are

different from

> what I had before though..over a year ago when my first 3 came on

they were

> BAD - major pain all the way around, really bad in the center of

the chest

> under the ribs.I could hardly talk or breathe it hurt so bad.

They lasted

> from 1-3 hours...only one was 3 hours, the others were 1 hour and

30 minutes

> These 2 the last 2 days have been pretty painful, however pain is

mostly in

> the gallbladder region.right side. Really painful deep in there.I

can feel

> it in the back mostly but in the front too. It's also very tender

to the

> touch in the center of the chest down under the rib cage. These

are also

> lasting longer, several hours. So although I can talk they are

lasting so

> long they are really hard to deal with. My questions - before

when I had

> them it was all associated with what I ate. This time I am eating

really

> good, so I'm wondering if these things could cause attacks. 1) I am

> exercising a lot - walking with a video, I did 4 miles yesterday

and 5 miles

> today...both attacks came on after exercise, not immediately but

still

> afterwards not before. Can exercise provoke an attack??????? 2)

It is also

> happening (both days) between lunch and dinner... I am going over

3 hours

> without eating, maybe 4 or 5? Could that be it? Do you think I

could be

> building up pressure from not eating that long and doing so much

exercise

> burning off calories? Do you think either of these things could

cause an

> attack and why? I am of course willing to do whatever it takes to

prevent

> attacks, they are terrible and these attacks are just enough to

make me

> realize I REALLY don't want a bad one so I need to fix whatever I

can now.

> Please please please any insight, advice, and help would be greatly

> appreciated!!!!!!!

>

> Traci

>

>

>

>

>

> Proverbs 3: 5-6

>

> Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine

own

> understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall

direct thy

> paths.

>

>

>

> Happy moments, PRAISE GOD.

> Difficult moments, SEEK GOD.

> Quiet moments, WORSHIP GOD

> Painful moments, TRUST GOD.

> Every moment, THANK GOD.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What kind of digestive enzyme should I take? I am not currently taking one

at all. Please let me know what works for you.

I tried the Epsom salts last night, only 1 tablespoon though....and this one

lasted 17 hours. Yikes! I cannot believe it lasted so long.

Another problem I am having is I am not able to flush right now. I have

been having some pretty bad hypoglycemic reactions when I go any length

without food. So, I've been really nervous to try the cleanse. I can't

fast right now - I mean I don't think it will work without fasting right?

Or do you think there are some foods I could eat lightly just to have food

in me? Or if I could drink orange juice that would help a great deal. Do

you think I could drink orange juice during the fasting period after 2PM?

Thanks!!!!!!!

Traci

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From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ] On

Behalf Of tina83862

Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 1:47 PM

gallstones

Subject: Re: help

I have found no matter what you do you still have those stones so

you have to keep flushing---and taking a good digestive enzyme when

you eat a big meal.

I too have been biking, eating less meat, much more fruit/veggies

and I had a tiny pain in the right side--typical of GB. Just a few

weeks ago.

Best thing to do when you get one of these in my opinion is to get

some epsom salts in you right away.

Take a good two tablespoons in some kind of juice so you can get it

down.

It will release debris in the duct if you have stones stuck in there.

But this doesn't get you off--still have to do another flush.

Once you do one you should be ok until you mess up again.

Losing weight or gaining will also cause another attack.

The key is to totally clean out the GB and to change your diet --you

still need some fats/protein just make sure when you eat them always

take that digestive enzyme!!!

the body still needs them just not in large amounts--you need to use

the GB but it's very hard for it to work when it's filled with

stones--thus the attack.

tina

[Guest guest]

What you are suppose to do is a week before you do a flush just add

more apple/pear juice to your diet--give up meat--more fruit and

veggies. Even do some juicing--but there is no need to fast.

Drink a lot more water--no dairy--think of cleaning out your body by

changing your diet to one of more fruits/veggies/juice.

a good Book-- " Juicing for life " good receipes.

Day of fast you are allowed oatmeal--it's a good thing to eat I have

found--or fruit till noon.

At 5 I start the epsom salts---and you have to do more than one

tablespoon. I add two big ones to cranberry juice or grapefruit (red

is easier)

Hold your nose and drink it down--you will need two of these to

really clean yourself out--take another one in a hour or so (they

say two hours)

Around 9 you should be cleaned out--

get the Extra Virgin olive oil--one half a cup or more if you can do

it---and add one half cup of red grapefruit--)(this is what I do)

and sit up in bed and drink it down--hold your nose again.

you will be hungry and this will help-

They say to lay down on your side--I have to sit up for awhile so I

can hold it all in me.

then I lay down and go to sleep--

when you wake up you have too drink epsom salts all over again---

2 tablespoons in juice and you should be going to the bathroom all

over again.

I hate at much as anyone--but I tell myself a hundred times it's

better than surgery for me--

I have not had a fever--nor have I had huge attacks--and I have had

cat scans done--so I know my stones--

It's been a year and I still have to watch diet--do flushes.

takes a while but it's worth it--cleaner liver--happier GB!!!!

and vital organ SAVED!!!!

-- In gallstones , " Traci " <tracic@...> wrote:

>

> What kind of digestive enzyme should I take? I am not currently

taking one

> at all. Please let me know what works for you.

> I tried the Epsom salts last night, only 1 tablespoon

though....and this one

> lasted 17 hours. Yikes! I cannot believe it lasted so long.

> Another problem I am having is I am not able to flush right now.

I have

> been having some pretty bad hypoglycemic reactions when I go any

length

> without food. So, I've been really nervous to try the cleanse. I

can't

> fast right now - I mean I don't think it will work without fasting

right?

> Or do you think there are some foods I could eat lightly just to

have food

> in me? Or if I could drink orange juice that would help a great

deal. Do

> you think I could drink orange juice during the fasting period

after 2PM?

> Thanks!!!!!!!

> Traci

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gallstones

[mailto:gallstones ] On

> Behalf Of tina83862

> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 1:47 PM

> gallstones

> Subject: Re: help

>

>

> I have found no matter what you do you still have those stones so

> you have to keep flushing---and taking a good digestive enzyme

when

> you eat a big meal.

>

> I too have been biking, eating less meat, much more fruit/veggies

> and I had a tiny pain in the right side--typical of GB. Just a few

> weeks ago.

>

> Best thing to do when you get one of these in my opinion is to get

> some epsom salts in you right away.

>

> Take a good two tablespoons in some kind of juice so you can get

it

> down.

>

> It will release debris in the duct if you have stones stuck in

there.

>

> But this doesn't get you off--still have to do another flush.

>

> Once you do one you should be ok until you mess up again.

>

> Losing weight or gaining will also cause another attack.

>

> The key is to totally clean out the GB and to change your diet --

you

> still need some fats/protein just make sure when you eat them

always

> take that digestive enzyme!!!

>

> the body still needs them just not in large amounts--you need to

use

> the GB but it's very hard for it to work when it's filled with

> stones--thus the attack.

>

> tina

>