Supplements

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+++How long ago did you start to have thyroid problems,

> and then I can advise you better.

> >

> > I have had thyroid problems for 14 years.

>

> <snip>

>

> +++Doris, it will take 14 months for your thyroid (and adrenals) to

> normalize. I recommend getting your thyroid tested again after

> you've been on this program for 6 months, and then test it every 2

> months twice (that will take you to 10 months of healing). After

> that test it every 6 weeks. During that time your thyroid tests may

> go up and down, but it should start normalizing about 1 year on this

> program, so your meds must be lowered accordingly, otherwise your

> thyroid will go into a tizzy from low to high suddenly.

>

> Bee

>

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> > >

> > THanks Bee,

> I just want to make sure you are saying I should not start lowering

my thyroid meds until 6 months if the blood tests suggest it?

+++Hi Doris. If blood tests indicate you should lower or raise it

within 6 months then you should do that.

Should I stop the lugals and not even take 1 drop a day?

+++Yes.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Yup! Thanks.

Can we assume, when a supplement just says " Niacin " on the nutritional

information label

that it must be B3? Or do we need to track down a supplement that says B3

specifically?

Thanks,

Marissa

> +++Marissa. Correction - the correct form is niacin (B3) and not

> niacinimide which is synthetic.

>

> Luv, Bee

>

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>

> Yup! Thanks.

> Can we assume, when a supplement just says " Niacin " on the

nutritional information label that it must be B3? Or do we need to

track down a supplement that says B3 specifically?

+++Hi Marissa. If the label says " Niacin " it is B3, so no it doesn't

have to have B3 on the label.

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

*** Hi Christie:

> I've been reading through a lot of Bee's articles on her website and I am so

> confused about the supplements.

***This list should clarify some of your

questions:http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/supp1.php

>A lot of them have soybean oil in them also. I

> thought that was a no no.

*** Look at NOW brand and Natural Factors, or type soy-free before whichever

supp you

are searching on IHerb.

The B complex has niacin but it's that niacide

> and I can't find any that have just the niacin without it being the

> niacinamide kind.

*** For B-complex, as the article states, you are looking for a balanced-50

formula. And

often, the source of their niacin is niacinimide, so you need to by a separate

true niacin (B-

3) supplement. Or you can use nutritional yeast flakes and buy a separate true

niacin.

The section on B-complex explains this.

Then for the E - I understood that I'm to get the

> non-synthetic kind but I'm confused about the little " d " . Is the little " d'

> one the kind I'm supposed to get?

*** Read the section on Vitamin E: the small " d " is the natural kind you want.

The " dl " kind

is synthetic and you don't want that. You want to search for a " dry-base " E r

clear-base

formula. They won't have soy. Natural Factors is a good brand.

I found the cod

> liver oil she recommended - the Garden of Life Old World Icelandic kind bit

> it has lemon and mint in it. Is that the right one???

*** Yes, the lemon or mint flavoring just masks the fishy taste.

Hope this helps,

Marissa

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>

> Hi,I'm Kim

> I've been following the diet since Jan 1 09. I'm so thankful I found

> this site.

> I have a couple of supplement questions. I've been confused about

the

> amount of calcium and mag to take and the trace elements and don't

> think I've been taking enough. I decided to order the Natural

Factors

> to eliminate the confusion, but when I pulled it up on Iherb.com it

said..

> Contains no artificial preservatives, color or sweeteners, no

> corn,dairy,soy,starch,wheat or yeast. then it said...

>

> Contains Soy

> This was the only Calcium Citrate by them I could find, is this the

> right one? Is there soy in it?

> Also it says it's 350mg in one tablet. I know 600 is the

> recommendation amount, so am I taking one tablet 2x daily = 700mg?

+++Hi Kim. I don't understand why the label would state it contains

no soy, yet the label also states it contains soy ? That's nuts. I

think that only Natural Factors company can sort this out - can you

contact them?

>

> The Kyolic organic garlic contains whey, is this ok?

+++They have changed Kyolic garlic over the years, so now it appears

their product contains whey - changing supplements by companies is so

difficult to deal with.

+++Can you list all of the ingredients, so we can see how much whey

is in it - if it is down the list it means it contains very little.

>

> Also, when I order the Blue Ice CLO I want to order the plain and

not the fermented, correct?

+++Yes, that is correct. I do not recommend the fermented Blue Ic.

>

> Lastly, The niacin is the only supplement I'm not taking. I don't

know if I can handle the flushing with the hot flashes, is it ok to

skip the niacin?

+++Niacin is very important for flushing toxins, radiation, etc. out

through the fatty tissues and skin, and it also opens up the blood

vessels, even the smallest capillaries, which is important for

candida. The reason is candida toxins make all of the body's cell

membranes rigid/stiff which means red blood cells are not as able to

fold over and get into the small capillaries like they are supposed

to. The more you open them up the better your circulation will be.

For more information see this article:

+++In order to minimize flushing start with small amounts, i.e. 1/4

of a tablet (50 mg divided by 4) by cutting up the tablets.

> Thank you so much, the site and group have been a great resource.

+++You are so welcome Kim!

The best in health, Bee

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Hi Christie,

A lot of people on this board use Natural Factors or NOW brand. They

tend to be pretty good as far as not having any unwanted 'extras' in

them. Bee doesn't have a list with the brands since there are people

from all around the world on this board. It's better that people buy

the kinds that don't have additives. Having said that, I order them

from iHerb here in Sweden since they have good prices and I can get

the right doses, etc.

If you haven't placed an order yet, you can order them online through

Bee's website at iHerb. Just go to the bottom of any page on her site

to find the iHerb icon.

If you go that route, she would appreciate that you use her code

EWI284 (that's ewi)so that she gets credit and you get $5 off your

first purchase.

On the iHerb page, you can do a search under 'N' for say NOW brand,

then search for say 'b-complex, 50'. It's quite easy to find all your

supplements that way.

Hope that helps!

>

> Good morning. I'm really confused over the supplements. I want to

get all

> mine ordered but I'm unsure if I'm ordering the right ones. When I look

> over the ingredients it says they have soy in them. I saw in

previous mails

> that soy is a no no. So if they contain soy - where do all of you

get your

> supplements???

>

[Guest guest]

Hi again,

Just rereading my post and realized the ambiguity of my statement.

iHerb is a company in the States, not Sweden, so shipping would be

'local' if you live in North America.

>

> Hi Christie,

>

<snip> Having said that, I order them from iHerb here in Sweden since

they have good prices and I can get the right doses, etc.

>

<snip>

>

>

[Guest guest]



,

Is a little soy in the supplements ok? Even with the Now brand I've seen

some have small amounts of soy.

Thanks.

Christie

[Guest guest]

> Is a little soy in the supplements ok? Even with the Now brand I've seen

> some have small amounts of soy.

>

> Thanks.

> Christie

>

*** Hi Christie:

I use several NOW brand products so I'll list mine for you.

For Vit C I use two products together:

" NOW C-1000 " (do not get the time-release version of this formula--which,

incidentally is

where you might be seeing the soy)

and

" Bioflavonoid caps "

For Vit A I use: " Shark Liver Oil 400mg "

For Magnesium Citrate: I use " Magnesium Citrate "

I use Natural Factors for other supps and Carlson for Niacin.

Hope this helps,

Marissa

[Guest guest]

Hi Christie,

While we try to avoid soy as much as we can, it is not always

possible. If the soy is listed as 'other ingredients' it's likely

just used to help the processing equipment to function, and isn't so

much of a worry.

>

>

> 

> ,

>

> Is a little soy in the supplements ok? Even with the Now brand I've

seen

> some have small amounts of soy.

>

> Thanks.

> Christie

>

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>

> HELP PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

+++Hi Christie. Did you know that typing in all capital letters

means you are shouting? lol!

> Thank you. I am noticing an improvement already just drinking the

electrolyte drink and the egg drink. I can only imagine how much

better I will begin to get once I get the supplements started.

+++Good for you!

>

> Also, my bloating has not begun to recede at all and I was

wondering how long it takes before you begin to notice a change in

the size of the bloating.

+++Candida produces carbon dioxide when it is killed off, which is

gas that causes the bloating. So bloating is a good sign.

The timing for bloating to subside is different for each person,

which depends upon so many factors, i.e. how well you stick to the

diet, how long you've had candida and/or bloating problems, etc.

+++Drink raw ginger tea to help with bloating.

>

> Thank you soooo much. You are all the most kind and giving people

and I think I would have given up on trying to find a cure for this

without you.

+++You are very welcome for the help and support. I'm so happy you

are on the program and can see the " light at the end of the tunnel. "

With your determination and patience you will succeed!

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Christie,

>

> While we try to avoid soy as much as we can, it is not always

> possible. If the soy is listed as 'other ingredients' it's likely

> just used to help the processing equipment to function, and isn't so

> much of a worry.

+++Hi . They do not use soy to help the processing equipment

function. They might coat tablets or capsules with magnesium stearate

or something else to keep them from sticking to the machinery however.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Oh, thanks for pointing that out. My mistake.

>

>

> +++Hi . They do not use soy to help the processing equipment

> function. They might coat tablets or capsules with magnesium

stearate or something else to keep them from sticking to the machinery

however.

>

> Bee

>

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>

> Hi Bee, I have to confess that I have not started to take the

> recommended supplements. I have been focusing more on the food and

I

> am on a budget. Is it impossible to heal without them?

+++Hi . Yes, it is important to take " all " supplements because

together with the diet that provides the correct balance of nutrients

the body needs in order to heal itself and maintain health.

+++Some supplements you can make, i.e. Eggshell calcium, or instead

of cal/mag you can make bone broths that are highly mineralized and

made according to my recipe for " Mineral Bone Broths. " You can take

Nutritional Yeast " Flakes " instead of vitamin B complex, or you can

eat 6 ounces of red meat liver twice a week or take raw liver pills,

and take niacin (B3) in addition.

> I mean if I can at some point I will purchase them, but for now

will I be alright without them? I am going to purchase the quantum

cod liver oil this week at take it regularly.

+++I can't say you'll progress much.

>

> Bee, one more thing. I saw that with the teaspoons that you

recommend of the quantum clo you also add 1000 mg of fish oil. All

the food that I eat eat is high in omega 3. The beef tallow is said

to be almost identical in omega 3's as fish oil and I eat tons of it.

Am I alright without it?

+++Hopefully your beef tallow is from grass-fed certified organic

beef, otherwise the omega-3 to omega-6 ratio will be imbalanced, with

much more omega-6. If not, you can eat 6-12 ounces of salmon (wild

caught, etc.) twice a week and not take the extra Omega-3.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi

I'll let Bee comment on your B complex and answer your question about

elemental amounts.

I'm living in Sweden and order all of my vitamins from the US through

iherb.com . They have pretty good prices and if the order is kept

small, I don't have to pay import duty.

Here is a site that sells the cod liver oil that Bee recommends:

http://www.red23.co.uk/

Just do a search for cod liver oil. They also sell raw, unpasteurized

butter, sauerkraut and Celtic sea salt.

If you want to buy coconut oil in bulk, try this link:

http://www.tropicaloilseurope.com/

They are in Ireland.

Hope that helps!

>

> Hi,

>

> I am finding it tricky to get the right supplements. I am starting

> out and live in the UK (England). If anyone from here can help

please let me know the.

>

<snip>

>

> Just hoping that someone over here is following the programme as

> well. I have already asked a contact that Bee knows over here and he

> could not really help.

>

> Chris

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Okay, I am very foggy brained, so I am wondering if someone can look over

> this list for me and make sure that these are all the supplements that I am

> supposed to be taking, thanks.

> Mia

>

> Vitamin E (1 per day)

+++Mia, how much vitamin E ??

>

> Vitamin C (1000) 1 3X day

+++That's okay.

>>

> Vitamin D3 (1 drop day)

+++I question that kind of supplement; please email me the details about it.

>

> Magnesium Citrate (1 1/2 - 2Xday)

+++You do not say how many mgs are in it.

>

> Vitamin A (1 per day)

+++You should be taking Cod Liver Oil instead of separate vitamins A and D

supplements.

>

>

> Calcium Citrate (2 2X day)

+++How much?

>

>

> 1 Tsp COD LIVER OIL (1 2X day)

+++I think I evaluated that Cod Liver Oil and suggested you not take it.

+++You are missing Vitamin B Complex (and Niacin if it doesn't contain true

Niacin).

See these supplement articles:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/supp1.php

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/supp7.php

Bee

[Guest guest]

Also, except for the Vit C, you haven't stated what strengths each of

these are. For example, if the Calcium is on !00 mg then 2 2X day

isn't enough.

On 14-Mar-09, at 8:27 AM, Bee wrote:

>

> >

> > Okay, I am very foggy brained, so I am wondering if someone can

> look over

> > this list for me and make sure that these are all the supplements

> that I am

> > supposed to be taking, thanks.

> > Mia

> >

> > Vitamin E (1 per day)

> +++Mia, how much vitamin E ??

> >

> > Vitamin C (1000) 1 3X day

> +++That's okay.

> >>

> > Vitamin D3 (1 drop day)

> +++I question that kind of supplement; please email me the details

> about it.

> >

> > Magnesium Citrate (1 1/2 - 2Xday)

> +++You do not say how many mgs are in it.

> >

> > Vitamin A (1 per day)

> +++You should be taking Cod Liver Oil instead of separate vitamins A

> and D supplements.

> >

> >

> > Calcium Citrate (2 2X day)

> +++How much?

> >

> >

> > 1 Tsp COD LIVER OIL (1 2X day)

> +++I think I evaluated that Cod Liver Oil and suggested you not take

> it.

>

> +++You are missing Vitamin B Complex (and Niacin if it doesn't

> contain true Niacin).

>

> See these supplement articles:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/supp1.php

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/supp7.php

>

> Bee

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Our food is so denatured by processing, genetic modification,

pesticides, farmer's fields that are never replenished, that it is

highly unlikely that all our nutritional needs, particularly in

quantities needed for healing, are met by food alone.

On 14-Mar-09, at 1:32 PM, diaikelys_gonzalez wrote:

> Hi Bee, I don't understand how it is that our bodies are unable to

> heal without supplements. Why can't we heal on whole nutritious

> foods? It doesn't make sense to me.

>

> Thank you

> kelly

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Since I'm on a budget many things recommened for this diet will not be

possible for me.

>

> If I can only afford four supplements/antifungals, which do you think are the

most important to have?

+++Hi . All of the supplements are very important since they are: 1)

minimal, and 2) all of the supplements and diet work together to provide your

body " proper nutrients " it requires so it can heal itself.

You can make your own Calcium Citrate from Eggshells, and take " Nutritional

Yeast Flakes " instead of vitamin B complex. You also save by making your own

foods from scratch. If you make good mineral-rich bone broths you can drink 2

mugs every day and not have to take calcium or magnesium supplements.

You will be saving a lot of money by not buying any processed foods, snacks and

drinks, and also have lower doctor bills and not spend money on perscriptions,

over-the-counter medicines, expensive toothpaste (use baking soda, salt or

hydrogen peroxide combinations instead), etc.

These supplements are an investment in your future, so they should be a priority

before other things we often spend money on, i.e. movies, eating out, new

clothes, new furniture, etc.

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee, I need to know if we have to take all the supplements on the list, the

reason being that both my husband and I are doing the candida diet. It is really

expensive for 2 people to take all of them when our income has dropped to about

half.

>

> Right now we are taking the calcium, magnesium, cod liver oil, digestive

enzymes and I take HCL because of my poor digestion.

+++Hi Angie. Yes it is important to take all of the supplements recommended.

Remember that taking them is an investment in your health and your life, and you

will save money in other areas because of this diet.

+++You do not need digestive enzymes, so only take HCl. That is because

digestive enzymes are neutralized by HCl in the stomach since they only work on

alkalized foods. If there isn't enough water and HCl in foods emptying out of

the stomach into the first part of the small intestines the pancreas is not

sufficiently triggered to produce baking soda to first neutralize HCl, and then

produce digestive enzymes.

> I use to take Dr. Ohihra's 12 plus probiotics (took for 2 years)but they got

to expensive. They really helped me,but I thought I was healed of the candida

because I really didn't understand the whole thing and of course I started

eating like everyone else.

+++Probiotics aren't very important on my program since your own body will

create good bacteria when it is strong enough.

>

> The worst symtoms I had before I started the diet this time around was neck

and shoulder pain, of course poor digestion, and a horrible coldness in my hands

and lower legs and feet. I thought for sure I had diabetes because I was so

cold. Thank God I have warmed up since I started on this diet, it's the only

one the I have come across that really explains so much and helps me stay

consistent.

+++That's wonderful you've warmed up and are making gains.

> You mention on one of your responses to someone that it takes 1 month for each

year of sickness, that you can be sick before you were born. That help me so

much and I've gone over in my mind all the memories from the time I was about

8yrs how much I loved the taste of wheat bread with butter. When I was expecting

I would eat lots of cereal. When I was about 28 I started making my tortillas of

1/2 wheat and 1/2 unbleached flour, thinking I was really eating healthy. It

wasn't until I hit the late forties that I started really getting sick and then

age 52 I was getting yeast infections nearly every month, UTIs, bronchitis, and

it progressed to sinus infections. I fasted that did help some, but I always

came back until I stopped the dairy. Ahh finally I was on to something.

+++I'm glad you are thinking and understanding more about foods you thought were

healthy, which wern't. Remember that your body will also " retrace " every past

illness, symptom, disease, injury, etc. during the healing process, which is

according to Hering's Law of Cure (on my website).

> Anyway this website has been a real blessing to me. I am getting some relief.

Thank you for your dedication to helping others in turn I will help others too.

+++You are so very welcome Angie. Onward & upward!

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Amy,

There is no chart for brands and shops about where to buy supplements because

there are people on this forum from all around the world and Bee couldn't

possibly know of all brands and stores.

If you are in North America, many members use Natural Factors and NOW brand for

their supplements and buy them through iHerb.com. If you do use them for

supplements, use Bee's code: EWI284 and get $5 off your first purchase at

iHerb.com.

>

> Is there a chart on file of suggested BRANDS of the recommended supplements

and WHERE they should be purchased (based upon price/quality, etc.)?

<snip>

> Thanks,

> Amy

>

[Guest guest]

>

> i have a problem with supplements when taken makes my head symptoms worse,

also there seems to be loads you have to take and at the moment i can afford all

of them is there any other option, and can anyone tell me why i feel worse when

taking any kind of medicines

+++Hi Anne. Actually, compared to supplements recommended by nutrionist,

naturopaths, and other alternative health practitioners I recommend very few.

What kind of supplements makes your head symptoms worse?

Most people also find they don't spend as much on this program, since they no

longer spend so much on prepackaged and processed foods, snacks and drinks. You

also save money on doctor bills and drugs, over-the-counter medicines.

You can save money by making calcium using eggshells - recipe on my website.

This is an investment in your future and your health, and all of the supplements

are important. Look for ways you can cut back on costs in areas that are not as

important as your health.

What kind of medicines make you feel worse?

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Amy,

I think that when you added the supplements your body became strong enough to

start to get rid of some toxins, so it created diarrhea. I don't think it was

the result of one specific thing, but the combination of supplements since they

help to strengthen the immune system. This is quite a common reaction and yes,

it is die-off. But it is a good thing since it means your body is getting rid

of stuff you don't want in there.

>

<snip>

> Just curious--is the diarrhea die-off related or healing reaction? Or just

shock to the Cod Liver Oil maybe? I am sure it will pass and am not at all

worried, maybe more fascinated if anything.

> Thanks,

> Amy

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Since I have added in Vitamin B, Cod Liver Oil, Calcium and Magnesium my

constipation has converted to diarrhea. I also switched brands of coconut oil,

but doubtful the brand would make that much of a difference.

> Just curious--is the diarrhea die-off related or healing reaction? Or just

shock to the Cod Liver Oil maybe? I am sure it will pass and am not at all

worried, maybe more fascinated if anything.

+++Hi Amy. Die-off, detoxifying and healing reactions are all the same thing,

which come under the heading of Herxheimer Reactions - see this article:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal2.php

Bee