Adrenal Fatigue

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And doctors have the cheek to tell us that we shouldn't believe what we read on

the internet/support forums... Pah!

in Kent

>

> Haha Bob,

>

> That link is hilarious. He fails to mention that 's is TOTAL adrenal

failure.

>

> I also like the bit where he says:

>

> " Unproven remedies for so-called " adrenal fatigue " may leave you feeling

sicker, while the real cause — such as depression or fibromyalgia — continues to

take its toll. "

>

> Because of course they know the 'real' causes of depression and fibromyalgia!

>

>

> > See what the Mayo Clinic Doctor Nippoldt says;-

> >

> > http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/adrenal-fatigue/AN01583

> >

> >

> > Bob

>

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I know, I tried, but you have to join before you can contact

anybody.

Luv - sheila

Hi Sheila,

there

is a 'contact me' button on her blog http://www.digitaljournal.com/user/360214

Subject: RE: Re: Adrenal fatigue

Does anybody

know how to get

Dearing's email address. We need to find out from her where she got the

information that WHO now accept adrenal fatigue as a diagnosis. She is

described as a 'Digital Journalist'

Luv - Sheila

I agree Sheila. I can't find it now, but I found another forum that had a

similar thread about WHO and adrenal fatigue. Turned out that nobody could find

the direct WHO link on that forum either.

P xo

>

> Doesn't appear to have filtered down to 'WHO' either, unless we can prove

> this wrong and produce a link so we can all accept this as fact.

>

> Luv - Sheila

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> > See what the Mayo Clinic Doctor Nippoldt says;-

> >

> > http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/adrenal-fatigue/AN01583

I personally hate the terminology non-specific symptoms, when I find fatigue and

body aches very specific, and have different forms of both fatigue and aches

exist in my experience. I also think non-specific implies a mild problem that's

not very crucial.

There are also sympotoms like dizzyness, feeling woozy bending down and energy

draining when standing in a queue which certainly is serious and none of this is

mentioned.

What are these unproven things that they refer to? Do they mean things like

nutri adrenal extra? I do agree that I would far rather go to the likes of Dr P

with this, than your traditional nutritionist though.

Fiona

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Yes,

that's why we should tell such doctors that we only ever read what has been

published in the medical journals and those papers that cite references to the

research that show the medical and scientific evidence.

What

a blooming Crackpot Doctor

Nippoldt is.

Luv

- Sheila

And doctors have the cheek to tell us that we

shouldn't believe what we read on the internet/support forums... Pah!

in Kent

>

> > See what the Mayo Clinic Doctor Nippoldt says;-

> >

> > http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/adrenal-fatigue/AN01583

> >

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And doesn't he look smug!

Hans

>

> Haha Bob,

>

> That link is hilarious. He fails to mention that 's is TOTAL adrenal

failure.

....

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…and so he should, after all, it's not everybody who dares

to make such bold statements without any evidence whatsoever and get away with

it. We should be writing to this guy and letting him know what we think -

but then….would it make any difference?

Luv - Sheila

And doesn't he look smug!

Hans

>

> Haha Bob,

>

> That link is hilarious. He fails to mention that 's is TOTAL

adrenal failure.

....

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Hi Bob - with your experience in research and knowing where to

go, do you think you could track down where these authors are getting their

information about WHO. I have typed in " 21st Century Disease " and

" Adrenal Fatigue 21st Century Disease' into their search engine on their

web site and cannot trace a thing. I would hate to think that one editor

allowed publication of such a statement without first finding the true facts

and then others just picking it up from there, when WHO never mentioned

anything. Go on Bob - you can do it, if anybody can *grin*.

I cannot even trace the email address of the journalist from the

Daily Mail publication. I have, however, today written to Marche asking

him to point me in the direction where I can source this information on the WHO

web site. Will let you know if he responds.

Luv - Sheila

This may be the source but don't expect a reference to it from the STAR in

Toronto.

[The World Health Organization has just this year recognized a new syndrome,

which they're calling " 21st century disease. " The technical name is

adrenal fatigue, the result of the adrenal glands being overworked from

producing excess quantities of cortisol during brief flashes of high stress]

<><>

In a way, I find it more disturbing that Royal Caribbean acted thoughtfully,

after careful consideration. The only answer to catastrophe is to keep going,

it seems. The only solution is to speed up through the turbulence, to try to

push through until we arrive at a place of calm fluid motion. Maybe we'll

survive the ride. Maybe not.

Marche is a novelist and the culture columnist at Esquire Magazine. Go

to marche.com.

http://www.thestar.com/news/insight/article/754756--earthquakes-cruise-liners-and-the-age-of-precariousness

WHO may have (in fact) begun to address these issues ~ as the MoD has recently

offered £2m for treating soldiers with PTSD and other mental ill- health

problems ( BBC News this evening 2nd April )

I would have thought the British military might have known something about this

problem from the 1st World War when our troope were shot for cowardice if they

got shell shock whilst the officers were just sent home on 'sick leave' for the

same condition.

Bob

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Hi Lou

I knew someone would see the funny side of it...:-)

....that's whatI thought too

best wishes

Bob

Add the Mayo Clinic to the list of candidates for a good lecture

>

> Haha Bob,

>

> That link is hilarious. He fails to mention that 's is TOTAL adrenal

failure.

>

> I also like the bit where he says:

>

> " Unproven remedies for so-called " adrenal fatigue " may leave you feeling

sicker, while the real cause — such as depression or fibromyalgia — continues to

take its toll. "

>

> Because of course they know the 'real' causes of depression and fibromyalgia!

>

>

> > See what the Mayo Clinic Doctor Nippoldt says;-

> >

> > http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/adrenal-fatigue/AN01583

> >

> >

> > Bob

>

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Hi Sheila, 'the pressure of facts on a closed mind is to shut it tighter' (misquote) thyroid treatment From: sheila@...Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 20:56:39 +0100Subject: RE: Re: Adrenal fatigue

…and so he should, after all, it's not everybody who dares

to make such bold statements without any evidence whatsoever and get away with

it. We should be writing to this guy and letting him know what we think -

but then….would it make any difference?

Luv - Sheila

And doesn't he look smug!

Hans

>

> Haha Bob,

>

> That link is hilarious. He fails to mention that 's is TOTAL

adrenal failure.

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Hi Sheila,

I writing this post in support of the wonderful things you do on behalf of all hypo sufferers.I understand the frustration you must feel at the amount of negativity you receive from all these idiots that feel its ok to watch people suffer and do nothing to help because they are selfish individuals.But individuals they are and we "hypo's" are an ever growing "group" of strong minded fighters that refuse to lay down and give up.Despite our poor health,we still keep going and fight the good fight,because of people like you!

Does writing to people to let them know how we feel make a difference? It sure does! It proves to them that we will not give up despite their negativity and are a force to be reckoned with! How irritating must it feel to think they spent years in education and you know more than they do! Poetic justice I think! Keep fighting the good fight,its working!

Best wishes Sharon

From: Sheila <sheila@...>Subject: RE: Re: Adrenal fatiguethyroid treatment Date: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 7:56 PM

…and so he should, after all, it's not everybody who dares to make such bold statements without any evidence whatsoever and get away with it. We should be writing to this guy and letting him know what we think - but then….would it make any difference?

Luv - Sheila

And doesn't he look smug!Hans>> Haha Bob,> > That link is hilarious. He fails to mention that 's is TOTAL adrenal failure....

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Hi,

I am from South Africa and have been diagnosed with secondary adrenal fatigue

and currently doing 20mg (10/5/5) corvocot(cortef equivalent) per day. I am also

taking T4/T3 for being hypothyroid. Only recently( 1month) after doing some

research I decided to take DHEA (started low and now at 25mg/d) for symptoms of

fatigue. The DHEA it seems has helped with the fatigue. My concern is my labs.

Morning, midday, afternoon serum cortisol results and thyroid results are,

Serum cortisol = 271/175/140 nmol/l still very low

TSH = 0.46 miu/l

FT4 = 14.5 pmol/l

FT3 = 4.3 pmol/l

DHEA-S prior to taking DHEA = 5.29 umol/l

I still have fatigue symptoms, low libido etc. I'm afraid my endo will want to

increase cortisol further, a path don't want to go down further suppressing ACTH

..After reading Chilln's info on pregnenolone or progesterone

supplementation(muscle chatroom website) I will try and convince my doc opt for

either of these.

Has anyone used either of these prohormones and come of cortisol successful and

what is the protocol? Also which is better? FYI, I was previously on TRT(test

cyp) and my lab results were great, but still had symptoms of just not feeling

well.

Thanks

Vicky

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ps have you tried 's method of taking t3 early in the morning to help your

adrenals?

Chris