Adrenal Fatigue

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In a message dated 06/11/2001 5:21:01 PM Central Daylight Time, henhao_us@... writes:

The only recommendations I could find on how to improve my adrenals was to go on a diet like the one I am already on and to drink licorice tea, which I was avoiding after a reaction to it and because I learned of its high sugar content. I did have some today and haven't noticed any reaction, so maybe it was something else that caused it.

My adrenals are weak and my recent hair analysis showed my potassium and sodium levels were low, a result of poor retention, due to one of a number of things, including adrenal insufficiency. It also says that zinc is needed for the retention of potassium and that reduced adrenal activity results in increased magneisum retention which can cause a variety of symptoms. The analysis suggested foods to avoid........those that affect metabolism (it didn't differentiate between which affected the thyroid and which affected the adrenals, though).

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Actually, I doubt that. Most people in our modern society do have some

degree of adrenal fatigue. Check out http://www.adrenalfatigue.org/ for

more info.

Cheers,

On Saturday, March 23, 2002, at 11:21 AM, SFerris769@... wrote:

> Oh good, I don't have it.  Thanks.

>

> Sharon (Ontario) Canada

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On Sunday, April 7, 2002, at 05:11 PM, vicki wrote:

> Finally got the book by on Adrenal

> Fatigue. It really is a terrific book! He does say not

> to take collodial minerals, but I have read everywhere

> else that the collodial ones are the one to take. I am

> a bit confused now.

>

> Vicki

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,

My naturalpath has suggested I have issues with my adrenal gland. I

have that go go go tendency and do a lot...work..volunteering...sports etc...

untill I reach a state of exhaustion which in the last few years happens more

frequently. When I go on a supplement containing adrenal bovine (from an

animal) it helps along with ginseng and lots of protein and vegs in my

lunch........ Here's the question..... how do I know if it is CFS.......

doctors refuse to diagnose this unless its " chronic " ... I have had blood test

more than onece and that seemed to rule out other factors... I also know yeast

is an issue with me and I have done a 6 week clense which helped ......

so how connected is Yeast issues with adrenal issues? and what comes first??

And....:-) what can I do know????? I've got another school year ahead and

don't need to be falling asleep in classes and have that brain fog.. weakness

and tiredness when i know i am capable.

Suggestions?

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,

My naturopath put me on bovine supplement as well...he said that my adrenals are

wasted. I think this happens (at least in my case) because of stress in my life

and then having so much yeast, allergy issues for my body to constantly have to

deal with. It's one of those...which came first - the chicken or the egg? I am

not sure, but like you, have a very busy life with lots of demands and am not

sure how to address this best. For now, I am trying to eliminate the yeast

problem and find any place in my life to cut back on stress.

Eileen

Rose <heather.rose@...> wrote:

,

My naturalpath has suggested I have issues with my adrenal gland. I

have that go go go tendency and do a lot...work..volunteering...sports etc...

untill I reach a state of exhaustion which in the last few years happens more

frequently. When I go on a supplement containing adrenal bovine (from an

animal) it helps along with ginseng and lots of protein and vegs in my

lunch........ Here's the question..... how do I know if it is CFS.......

doctors refuse to diagnose this unless its " chronic " ... I have had blood test

more than onece and that seemed to rule out other factors... I also know yeast

is an issue with me and I have done a 6 week clense which helped ......

so how connected is Yeast issues with adrenal issues? and what comes first??

And....:-) what can I do know????? I've got another school year ahead and

don't need to be falling asleep in classes and have that brain fog.. weakness

and tiredness when i know i am capable.

Suggestions?

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AShley - Thank you for your informative post. I have been battling Candida

for 15 years and yours is one of the best descriptions of it that I've

read. - Penny

Re: Re: adrenal fatigue

>

>

> I will go directly to answering the question about

> yeast and adrenal fatigue. Everyone has candida which

> can exist in two forms, a harmless yeast form and a

> destructive fungal form with rhizoids (roots).

[Guest guest]

Hi

It sound like you are over stressed, especially with

all the volunteering you are doing, please think of

yourself for once and get yourself better.

As far as the yeast and adrenalin connection, I would

like to point out that when adrenalin is released into

the system, in turn your sugar store is also released,

thus enabling Candida to have a bean feast. So stress

= adrenalin = sugar release = Candida, and this cycle

will go on and on until you bring about your stressful

conditions. This is why you have been suffering with

CFS. Eat little and often to help balance your blood

sugar and take plenty of rest. When my blood sugar

levels where all over the place I would have brown

rice cakes as a snack,topped with virgin coconut oil

and a little mashed banana. Brown rice is a slow

release carb so it helps balance your blood sugar.

Do the saliva test, go to my personal web site

www.katherinemckelvey.co.uk you will find it there.

If positive remove sugar from your diet, scrutinise

everything.

Take anti-fungals, I personally drink aloe Vera.

Introduce Probiotics to re=establish the gut flora.

Take Evening Primrose 3,000mg a day (1000

morning,1000 noon,and 1000 at night) this oil stops

this yeast morphing into a fungus. It's also wonderful

for balancing your hormones.

You really have to think of No 1, that is you and

until you are better then hold back on the

volunteering And maybe the sport. Hopes this advise

helps.

Take care

McKelvey

--- Rose <heather.rose@...> wrote:

---------------------------------

,

My naturalpath has suggested I have issues

with my adrenal gland.

so how connected is Yeast issues with adrenal

issues? and what comes first??

And....:-) what can I do know?????

[Guest guest]

I thought banana's are not recommended under the anti-candida diet

and doesn't also banana's shoot your blood sugar up to quickly?

> ---------------------------------

>

> ,

> My naturalpath has suggested I have issues

> with my adrenal gland.

> so how connected is Yeast issues with adrenal

> issues? and what comes first??

> And....:-) what can I do know?????

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> I thought banana's are not recommended under the anti-candida diet and

> doesn't also banana's shoot your blood sugar up to quickly?

Bananas are among the highest glycemic and largest carb sources per

ounce you can eat. In my view that more than offsets the 1/3 of a

gram of potassium you might get from one.

Duncan

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I know I suggested bananas but I only eat them when

they have turned ripe. Its when they are over ripe

they are full of sugar. Bananas are full of B vitamins

and potassium.

--- youngjaem <youngjaem@...> wrote:

---------------------------------

I thought banana's are not recommended under the

anti-candida diet

and doesn't also banana's shoot your blood sugar up to

quickly?

> ---------------------------------

>

> ,

> My naturalpath has suggested I have issues

> with my adrenal gland.

> so how connected is Yeast issues with adrenal

> issues? and what comes first??

> And....:-) what can I do know?????

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

>

>

>

>

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Hello Pearl,

I'm not sure if there's an adrenal forum out there but something that really

helps me is:

1.) Dry Skin Brushing (yes, it sounded weird to me when I first started but

now my day wouldn't be complete without a good, vigorous skin brush.)

2.) Rebounding on a mini trampoline (buy you one from WallyWorld (aka

Wal-Mart) and bounce your way to health. It's great for your adrenal and

lymphatic

system and it only takes a few minutes a day. As with any new exercise it's

good to slowly build your way up. I now rebound 3 times a day because it makes

me feel SO good! but I had to start slow.)

I hope that helps.

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> Hello Pearl,

>

> I'm not sure if there's an adrenal forum out there but something

that really

> helps me is:

>

> 1.) Dry Skin Brushing (yes, it sounded weird to me when I first

started but

> now my day wouldn't be complete without a good, vigorous skin

brush.)

>

> 2.) Rebounding on a mini trampoline (buy you one from WallyWorld

(aka

> Wal-Mart) and bounce your way to health. It's great for your

adrenal and lymphatic

> system and it only takes a few minutes a day. As with any new

exercise it's

> good to slowly build your way up. I now rebound 3 times a day

because it makes

> me feel SO good! but I had to start slow.)

>

> I hope that helps.

>

>

>

>

>

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I totally agree with the mini tramp. I looked at different equipment that I

couldn't see spending $1200 on. So thought what do I have to loose if I try the

mini tramp for $20 at discount store. It was when I was spending time with my

grandson and he says " Come on grandma come jump with me " (he was on a full sized

tramp). It was so much fun and I could not believe the workout I got from it.

What a blast! I do it 3 times a day also. My work is sitting at a computer for

hours and this had helped me tremendously. I added some weights to the workout

just to work my arms.

Betty

Re: [ ] Adrenal Fatigue

Hello Pearl,

I'm not sure if there's an adrenal forum out there but something that really

helps me is:

1.) Dry Skin Brushing (yes, it sounded weird to me when I first started but

now my day wouldn't be complete without a good, vigorous skin brush.)

2.) Rebounding on a mini trampoline (buy you one from WallyWorld (aka

Wal-Mart) and bounce your way to health. It's great for your adrenal and

lymphatic

system and it only takes a few minutes a day. As with any new exercise it's

good to slowly build your way up. I now rebound 3 times a day because it

makes

me feel SO good! but I had to start slow.)

I hope that helps.

[Guest guest]

Pearl,

I was confined to my bed too. I can remember forcing myself to walk to

kitchen and by the time I got there I had to sit down. My body felt like I was

dying.

But believe me Pearl, if you follow Bee's protocol you will feel good again.

Your food is your medicine. If fact it's the ONLY thing that will allow your

body to heal itself. Have faith in the process. Go to the " Files " section

and print them out.... organize them in a $2 folder... and commit them to

memory.

WTS, the Sun can help as well. Let it slowly build your strength each day.

Then start going for walks; especially after eating. Early morning air is

good. Nature is good. Then start rebounding on a mini trampoline.

You can do it and remember, we are here to help.

I hope this information finds you well,

[Guest guest]

Hi Pearl,

- I agree wholeheartedly with messages posted in response to your

posting... candida diet, no stimulants like cafeine-containing

drinks, rebounding, etc. To me, they are front-line/basic treatments.

- As well, an environmental doctor told me to be in bed by 10:00

p.m. and up at 6:00 a.m. (easier said than done, I know), to

avoid/help adrenal fatigue (the adrenals are getting ready to rest

and replenish around that time), otherwise, I was keeping my adrenals

in a state of permanent fatigue.

The following website was posted on another discussion group:

www.adrenalfatigue.org

I checked it, and it has tons of information as well as programs for

recovery, etc., etc. Perhaps you could send an e-mail to that

website, and ask for info on any on-line adrenal support groups they

might know of?

Here is what a member of the other discussion group had to say on

adrenal fatigue (I clipped the message down as much as I could):

- " The adrenal fatigue products my enviro doc has me on are Dr.

's adrenal fatigue program. I am taking all of his products...

I found the Dr. 's adrenal rebuilder helped immediatly but it

can take years to fix the problem... Started the Adrenal Support...

a big increase in energy. It was dramatic for me and others on it

from the enviro clinic. "

- " Also panathanic acid (spelling error sorry) is excellent for

adrenal fatigue but you have to be able to tolerate b vitamins. (I

don't).

- " DHEA does wonders for depression, ADRENAL EXHAUSTION, fatigue

etc. "

(For more info on DHEA, see message no. 10829.)

(Note: In Canada, the only compounding pharmacy authorized to make

DHEA in its pure form (void of void of additives, fillers, etc.) is:

Kripps Compounding Pharmacy... See message no. 10829 for co-

ordinates.)

Hope some of this helps.

Fran

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Catarina you must take cortef 5mg 4X a day---you cannot take it once a day.

Dr. Shames is just plain wrong, too bad, embarrassing for him. I don't

know if taking cortef is short or long term, I see it just as important as

thyroid meds, I don't want to give it up. Hertoghe is certainly the expert

but I have NEVER heard of anyone gaining weight on cortef.

Gracia

I have some questions on adrenal fatigue.

First of all, is it a permanent condition/disorder; it is NOT, if I have

understood it correctly, about the adrenal glands ceasing to function all

together like when you have 's disease?

and Kathy Shames write in their latest book that if you use

adrenal support of some kind (they recommend Isocort), you should only use

it for a very short period a tame (a few weeks), in order to allow your

adrenal glands to rest for a while. I assume that means that they will then

be able to function like they should WITHOUT support?

Two years ago, Dr Hertoghe diagnosed me with adrenal fatigue (my lab

values for free cortisol was 6.6 at 8 am (blood and 24-hour urine analysis);

anything below 10 is indicative of cortisol deficiency according to " my "

lab). He put me on Medrol (2 mg a day and told me to increase to 4 mg in

case of serious infection or prolonged stress). He also prescribed DHEA

along with it.

At first, the drug worked wonders and I stopped craving for salt and sugar

but, after a couple of months, the effect began to wear off. So, I slowly

took myself off it. I had read a lot of warnings and articles on the side

effects of synthetic cortison and I was afraid to stay on it for too long if

I did not need it.

Then I read some articles on natural hydrocortisone and discussed it with

Hertoghe. He told me that he did not want to prescribe it to me because it

can promote weight gain and I gained a lot of weight (that I am still

battling to lose) while hypothyroid.

Therefore, I ordered Cortef on the Internet and started using it nearly

two weeks ago (like I wrote in an earlier mail, I am currently on 10 mg a

day and I have been taking it once a day). I can't say that I have noticed

any difference or improvement.

Today, I went to the pharmacy to get some more T4 meds. Euthyrox, the most

commonly described drug here, was out of stock so they gave me a another

drug called L-Thyroxine. When I read the patient information sheet, it

listed a lot of drugs known to decrease the efficiency of thyroid hormone.

Hydrocortisone was one of the drugs mentioned in the list.

This is the first time that I have ever heard that hydrocortisone can

actually make thyroid hormone less effective (not even Hertoghe has

mentioned it).

What I am beginning to wonder is if the months I was on Medrol allowed my

adrenal glands to rest and then function better, or is adrenal fatigue a

chronic condition requiring life-long treatment? I have not found any answer

to this question; like I said, Dr. Shames and his wife claim that it only

requires short-term treatment while Dr. Hertoghe treats it on a permanent

basis (he writes in his book that he has been taking it himself for many

years, along with Armour and HGH).

I would be grateful for any information you might give me; you all seem so

interested and knowledgeable when it comes to hormonal disorders, so I hope

that you will be able to shed some light on this.

Catarina

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HI Catarina,

I thought that cortef increased thyroid efficiency - are you sure you

read that label correctly? I sometimes think that they write anything

on those labels that could even remotely be possible just to cover

themselves legally.

I remember my doc telling me that I might have increased thyroid

activity after taking Cortef. As it turned out I didn't but I didn't get

a decrease either.

Kerry

adrenal fatigue

I have some questions on adrenal fatigue.

First of all, is it a permanent condition/disorder; it is NOT, if I

have understood it correctly, about the adrenal glands ceasing to

function all together like when you have 's disease?

and Kathy Shames write in their latest book that if you use

adrenal support of some kind (they recommend Isocort), you should only

use it for a very short period a tame (a few weeks), in order to allow

your adrenal glands to rest for a while. I assume that means that they

will then be able to function like they should WITHOUT support?

Two years ago, Dr Hertoghe diagnosed me with adrenal fatigue (my lab

values for free cortisol was 6.6 at 8 am (blood and 24-hour urine

analysis); anything below 10 is indicative of cortisol deficiency

according to " my " lab). He put me on Medrol (2 mg a day and told me to

increase to 4 mg in case of serious infection or prolonged stress). He

also prescribed DHEA along with it.

At first, the drug worked wonders and I stopped craving for salt and

sugar but, after a couple of months, the effect began to wear off. So, I

slowly took myself off it. I had read a lot of warnings and articles on

the side effects of synthetic cortison and I was afraid to stay on it

for too long if I did not need it.

Then I read some articles on natural hydrocortisone and discussed it

with Hertoghe. He told me that he did not want to prescribe it to me

because it can promote weight gain and I gained a lot of weight (that I

am still battling to lose) while hypothyroid.

Therefore, I ordered Cortef on the Internet and started using it

nearly two weeks ago (like I wrote in an earlier mail, I am currently on

10 mg a day and I have been taking it once a day). I can't say that I

have noticed any difference or improvement.

Today, I went to the pharmacy to get some more T4 meds. Euthyrox, the

most commonly described drug here, was out of stock so they gave me a

another drug called L-Thyroxine. When I read the patient information

sheet, it listed a lot of drugs known to decrease the efficiency of

thyroid hormone. Hydrocortisone was one of the drugs mentioned in the

list.

This is the first time that I have ever heard that hydrocortisone can

actually make thyroid hormone less effective (not even Hertoghe has

mentioned it).

What I am beginning to wonder is if the months I was on Medrol allowed

my adrenal glands to rest and then function better, or is adrenal

fatigue a chronic condition requiring life-long treatment? I have not

found any answer to this question; like I said, Dr. Shames and his wife

claim that it only requires short-term treatment while Dr. Hertoghe

treats it on a permanent basis (he writes in his book that he has been

taking it himself for many years, along with Armour and HGH).

I would be grateful for any information you might give me; you all

seem so interested and knowledgeable when it comes to hormonal

disorders, so I hope that you will be able to shed some light on this.

Catarina

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Hi ,

My doctor does this on me at every visit - I do believe it is

accurate. My only question is the how long the pupil should hold

assuming good health. 30 seconds seems like a long time (I've never

been above 5) but I am not an expert. I think it is good to know

your baseline too since I do the test at home sometimes when I start

new supplements - if my pupils show less resilience I think

carefully about continuing.

Sharon

>

> I stumbled accross this self test for adrenal fatigue and was

> wondering if anyone on the group had see it or used it?

>

> I tested mine and it came up that I do have it according to this

> test. Is there anyone on the list that has been diagnosed with

Adrenal

> fatigue? If so would you mind doing the test to see if it is

accurate?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Pupil Dilation Test

> Another way to test for adrenal dysfunction is the pupil dilation

> exam. To perform this on yourself, you'll need a flashlight and a

> mirror. Face the mirror, and shine the light in one eye. If after

30

> seconds the pupil (black center) starts to dilate (enlarge),

adrenal

> deficiency should be suspected.

> Why does this happen? During adrenal insufficiency, there is a

> deficiency of sodium and an abundance of potassium, and this

imbalance

> causes an inhibition of the sphincter muscles of the eye. These

> muscles normally initiate pupil constriction in the presence of

bright

> light. However, in adrenal fatigue, the pupils actually dilate when

> exposed to light.

>

> Rogoff's Sign

> Rogoff's sign is a definite tenderness in the lower thoracic

> (mid-back) spine where the ribs attach.

>

> http://www.treatingandbeating.com/adrenalfatigue.html

>

[Guest guest]

I just tried it. My pupil didn't do anything for a minute, then started pulsing, and then got smaller. What does that mean???

I take adrenal supplements: 10 mg HC, 4 Isocort, 25 mg DHEA, 20 mg Pregnenolone. And I eat a lot of unrefined sea salt and Vitamin C.

Zoe

Hi ,My doctor does this on me at every visit - I do believe it is accurate. My only question is the how long the pupil should hold assuming good health. 30 seconds seems like a long time (I've never been above 5) but I am not an expert. I think it is good to know your baseline too since I do the test at home sometimes when I start new supplements - if my pupils show less resilience I think carefully about continuing. Sharon> > I tested mine and it came up that I do have it according to this> test. Is there anyone on the list that has been diagnosed with Adrenal> fatigue? If so would you mind doing the test to see if it is accurate?> > Thanks,> > > > Pupil Dilation Test> Another way to test for adrenal dysfunction is the pupil dilation> exam. To perform this on yourself, you'll need a flashlight and a> mirror. Face the mirror, and shine the light in one eye. If after 30> seconds the pupil (black center) starts to dilate (enlarge), adrenal> deficiency should be suspected.> Why does this happen? During adrenal insufficiency, there is a> deficiency of sodium and an abundance of potassium, and this imbalance> causes an inhibition of the sphincter muscles of the eye. These> muscles normally initiate pupil constriction in the presence of bright> light. However, in adrenal fatigue, the pupils actually dilate when> exposed to light.

[Guest guest]

I found this test to be very accurate. What I saw was that my pupil would constrict, but could only hold it for about 10 seconds. After that, it would dilate briefly and then try to constrict again, but never completely do so, and then it would just start getting bigger and smaller seemingly at random. After 6 months or so of adrenal support, it was more like 30 seconds. I haven't tried it lately. This test is described in "Adrenal Fatigue" by . He stresses that you shine the flashlight *across* the eye, not into it. He says the pupil should be able to hold for at least a minute, as I recall. HTH! -- prr <osiris20672002@...> wrote: I stumbled accross this self test

for adrenal fatigue and was wondering if anyone on the group had see it or used it? I tested mine and it came up that I do have it according to this test. Is there anyone on the list that has been diagnosed with Adrenal fatigue? If so would you mind doing the test to see if it is accurate? Thanks, Pupil Dilation Test Another way to test for adrenal dysfunction is the pupil dilation exam. To perform this on yourself, you'll need a flashlight and a mirror. Face the mirror, and shine the light in one eye. If after 30 seconds the pupil (black center) starts to dilate (enlarge), adrenal deficiency should be suspected. Why does this happen? During adrenal insufficiency, there is a deficiency of sodium and an abundance of potassium, and this imbalance causes an inhibition of the sphincter muscles of the eye. These muscles normally

initiate pupil constriction in the presence of bright light. However, in adrenal fatigue, the pupils actually dilate when exposed to light. Rogoff's Sign Rogoff's sign is a definite tenderness in the lower thoracic (mid-back) spine where the ribs attach. http://www.treatingandbeating.com/adrenalfatigue.html

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Well, you want to start in a dark room, leaving enough time so your eye adjusts to the dark and the pupil opens up (mine only takes a few seconds). Then, looking into a mirror you shine the light across one pupil while watching it in the mirror. The test is, how long it can stay small until it starts getting bigger and smaller. I take off my watch so I can push the stopwatch button with my non-flashlight hand.When you hit it with the light, the pupil should immediately get smaller. When you say yours didn't do anything, you don't mean it didn't react to the light at all, do you? Or maybe you were in a lighted room so it was already small? I've never heard anyone say they didn't react to it at all. Are you sure you weren't accidentally shining it on your chin? (kidding!)So if it went for a minute, that's a pretty good time. Sounds like

your adrenal support is working ok. Does that seem to fit with how you're feeling?-- prrZoe & <ZOEA@...> wrote: I just tried it. My pupil didn't do anything for a minute, then started pulsing, and then got smaller. What does that mean??? I take adrenal supplements: 10 mg HC, 4 Isocort, 25 mg DHEA, 20 mg Pregnenolone. And I eat a lot of unrefined sea salt and Vitamin C. Zoe Hi ,My doctor does this on me at every visit - I do believe it is accurate. My only question is the how long the pupil should hold assuming good health. 30 seconds seems like a long time (I've never been above 5) but I am not an expert. I think it is good to know your baseline too since I do the test at home sometimes when I start new supplements - if my pupils show less resilience I think carefully about continuing. Sharon> > I tested mine and it came up that I do have it according to this> test. Is there anyone on the list that has been diagnosed with Adrenal> fatigue? If so would you mind doing the test to see if it is accurate?> > Thanks,> > > > Pupil Dilation Test> Another way to test for adrenal dysfunction is the pupil dilation> exam. To perform this on yourself, you'll need a flashlight and a> mirror. Face the mirror, and shine the light in one eye. If after 30> seconds the pupil (black center) starts to dilate (enlarge), adrenal> deficiency should be suspected.> Why does this happen? During adrenal insufficiency, there is a> deficiency of sodium and an abundance of potassium, and this imbalance> causes an inhibition of the sphincter muscles of the eye. These> muscles normally initiate pupil constriction in the presence of bright> light. However, in adrenal fatigue, the pupils actually dilate when> exposed to light.

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[Guest guest]

>

> Hello.

>

> I just joined and am so impressed and thankful for the info I am

> finding in this group. I read where you had an article on adrenal

> fatigue posted in the files section. I cannot find it. Can you

help

> me ? Thanks.

To find things in the files go to edit on your browser and find on

this page. If you cant find it there try searching the messages. I

searched the message and found this.

24061 Re: die off and detox

.... nervous are healing/die off symptoms too, and also because

organs in the body are malfunctioning when you have candida, i.e.

adrenals & thyroid in particular - see the article I posted on

Adrenals & Thyroid and the Healing Naturally Folder for tons of

details ...

Hope that helps

Pat B in Kalamazoo

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wrote:

> Hello.

==>Hello . Welcome to our group.

>

> I just joined and am so impressed and thankful for the info I am

> finding in this group. I read where you had an article on adrenal

> fatigue posted in the files section. I cannot find it. Can you help

> me ?

==>The article on Adrenals is located in the Treatment Folder - it's

the 1st one.

The best in health, Bee

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While sometimes " fatigue is a condition of 'deficiency'While sometimes

" fatigue is a condition of 'deficiency'<WBR>, " sometimes f That's where

colonics

comes in as one of the remedies. Note that I said ONE. There are many other

factors... and remedies that help in conjuction with colonics.

Love, Light, and JOY!

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> I have a question about adrenal fatigue.

Iodine is the recommended way to rehabilitate the adrenals in most (but

not all) cases. This is admittedly one are where my knowledge is

lacking, so hopefully someone else with more knowledge will chime in...

The best form of iodine that I have found, thanks to 'ransley' (thank

you sir!) on another list, is something called magnascent. It is much

more potent and bio-available than Lugols, which is what I had been

using/recommending before...

http://www.magnascent.com

> I know that enemas/colonics are good for so many things,

I think they are over-rated - more like a 'band-aid' approach. They are

good for emergencies, and as an *occasional* adjunct to a cleansing

program - but if you 'need' them regularly, then you are treating the

symptom, not the problem.

> but I wonder....since fatigue is a condition of 'deficiency', are

> regular colonics good for a 'deficient' condition?

This may come as a surprise to you, but 'regular' colonics are not

recommended in general, and if engaged in, can in fact cause far more

problems than they will cure.

A series of colonics, used in conjunction with a cleansing regimen, can

sometimes speed up the process or help one through some serious

cleansing reactions, and used sparingly like this, are fine.

The problem with colonics is, they wash out all of the *good* bacteria

along with the bad.

My opionion - you are much better off using cleansing herbs and products

that cleanse the entire digestive tract (mouth to anus) - they don't

wash out all of the good bacteria (as long as you stay below the 'bowel

tolerance' of products that can potentially cause the 'diahhrea' effect,

like homozon and ascorbic acid) - and they also nourish and feed the

good bacteria, so you will achieve optimal health much faster.