Chi machine

[Guest guest]

Dear Peggy,

Yes, you could say it is a form of oxygen therapy.

By the same token, taking a calcium supplement could also

be said to be a form of oxygen therapy, because ionic calcium is what brings

oxygen into the cell. That is why a lack of calcium is associated with 150

degenerative diseases, up to and including cancer.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH

chi machine

> Dear Saul,

>

> You recently advised me that a chi machine would be useful for cleansing

the lymphatic system (as I'm unable to use my rebounder). Now I read in

their literature that they call the machine an oxygenator and state that 5

minutes on the machine is equivalent to a 30 minute walk in oxygenation.

(They don't claim it has the other benefits of exercise, obviously). Would

you agree with any of this or is it just hype? If true it would mean that a

chi machine is a form of oxygen therapy, wouldn't it? And especially useful

for anyone who, because of physical limitations, is unable to exercise much.

>

> Thanks.

>

> Peggy

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Peggy,

The literature on the chi machine (foot shaker) is not hype. It actually

is aerobic exercise, even though you lie on the floor. The machine

rythmically moves your legs, which are a major portion of your anatomy.

The heart has to pump blood for all the motion taking place, and it is

therefor aerobic.

Further, it eliminates most back pains because it keeps the spine loose

& limber. Many ankle, knee & hip problems go away with regular movement

als. Movement, along with sunlight, sound & fresh air, must be thought

of as essential nutrients, because they are.

In short, the foot shaker machines are defintiely good for you, and the

chi high after you finish is a marvelous addition to stress-reducing

programs.

jim

Tim and/or Peggy Walters wrote:

>

> Dear Saul,

>

> You recently advised me that a chi machine would be useful for cleansing the

lymphatic system (as I'm unable to use my rebounder). Now I read in their

literature that they call the machine an oxygenator and state that 5 minutes on

the machine is equivalent to a 30 minute walk in oxygenation. (They don't claim

it has the other benefits of exercise, obviously). Would you agree with any of

this or is it just hype? If true it would mean that a chi machine is a form of

oxygen therapy, wouldn't it? And especially useful for anyone who, because of

physical limitations, is unable to exercise much.

>

> Thanks.

>

> Peggy

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[Guest guest]

Peggy,

The literature on the chi machine (foot shaker) is not hype. It actually

is aerobic exercise, even though you lie on the floor. The machine

rythmically moves your legs, which are a major portion of your anatomy.

The heart has to pump blood for all the motion taking place, and it is

therefor aerobic.

Further, it eliminates most back pains because it keeps the spine loose

& limber. Many ankle, knee & hip problems go away with regular movement

als. Movement, along with sunlight, sound & fresh air, must be thought

of as essential nutrients, because they are.

In short, the foot shaker machines are defintiely good for you, and the

chi high after you finish is a marvelous addition to stress-reducing

programs.

jim

Tim and/or Peggy Walters wrote:

>

> Dear Saul,

>

> You recently advised me that a chi machine would be useful for cleansing the

lymphatic system (as I'm unable to use my rebounder). Now I read in their

literature that they call the machine an oxygenator and state that 5 minutes on

the machine is equivalent to a 30 minute walk in oxygenation. (They don't claim

it has the other benefits of exercise, obviously). Would you agree with any of

this or is it just hype? If true it would mean that a chi machine is a form of

oxygen therapy, wouldn't it? And especially useful for anyone who, because of

physical limitations, is unable to exercise much.

>

> Thanks.

>

> Peggy

-----

The TRUTH in 11 words:

Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened!

-- anon

jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience

http://www.entrance.to/poetry

[Guest guest]

Thanks to both Saul & Jim for info on the chi machine. One more question (sorry

if it's a dumb one): if this is actually aerobic exercise, would it be

contraindicated for someone who is ill? I know it's passive, so I'm thinking it

would not only be okay but also be a good idea, increasing circulation and

oxygen. But I'm feeling particularly depleted today (used up too much energy

yesterday which was supposed to be going into cleansing). I wasn't sure if the

machine would help or simply be too much activity--yep, I felt so wiped out that

lying with my feet on a chi machine felt like it might be too much. Could that

possibly be correct?

Peggy

>>It actually is aerobic exercise, even though you lie on the floor. The

machine

rythmically moves your legs, which are a major portion of your anatomy.

The heart has to pump blood for all the motion taking place, and it is

therefor aerobic.>>

[Guest guest]

Thanks to both Saul & Jim for info on the chi machine. One more question (sorry

if it's a dumb one): if this is actually aerobic exercise, would it be

contraindicated for someone who is ill? I know it's passive, so I'm thinking it

would not only be okay but also be a good idea, increasing circulation and

oxygen. But I'm feeling particularly depleted today (used up too much energy

yesterday which was supposed to be going into cleansing). I wasn't sure if the

machine would help or simply be too much activity--yep, I felt so wiped out that

lying with my feet on a chi machine felt like it might be too much. Could that

possibly be correct?

Peggy

>>It actually is aerobic exercise, even though you lie on the floor. The

machine

rythmically moves your legs, which are a major portion of your anatomy.

The heart has to pump blood for all the motion taking place, and it is

therefor aerobic.>>

[Guest guest]

New to all this, so will someone please tell me what a chi machine is?

Deanna

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I just bought one, We are all using it daily, I will let you know how it

does, or anything good or bad

Re: chi machine

New to all this, so will someone please tell me what a chi machine is?

Deanna

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[Guest guest]

Hi Peggy,

I have been using the Swing Machines for quite a while and can tell you that

when I am exhausted, I look forward to laying down, putting my ankles in the

machine and relaxing. I have very narrow ankles, so, I wrap mine in foam

(the egg carton stuff that goes on beds) so my ankles don't get beat up from

the back and forth motion. I started out with the cheapest version I could

find. I found it at http://www.firstauction.com It is called an OxyFlow

machine. It worked just fine for a while, until I wore it out. It only

cost me $50.00 I won the auction for it. They don't have them in stock all

the time, so you have to keep an eye out for the auctions if you want one of

these. You can also just buy them from HSN. I don't know their price. But

after using this machine I was able to see that it was a wonderful idea and

I wanted to get a better quality machine that wouldn't wear out so quickly.

I have an on-line health food store and carry these machines now that I know

how wonderful they are. I have five different models. You can read about

them here http://loaves-n-fishes.com/SwingMachines.shtml The one problem I

have with it occasionally is that it sometimes aggravates an old knee

injury. Not all the time, just sometimes. Then, I'm not able to stay on

the machine for the full 15 minutes, just 5 minutes or so.

~Karma

Re: chi machine

Thanks to both Saul & Jim for info on the chi machine. One more question

(sorry if it's a dumb one): if this is actually aerobic exercise, would it

be contraindicated for someone who is ill? I know it's passive, so I'm

thinking it would not only be okay but also be a good idea, increasing

circulation and oxygen. But I'm feeling particularly depleted today (used

up too much energy yesterday which was supposed to be going into cleansing).

I wasn't sure if the machine would help or simply be too much activity--yep,

I felt so wiped out that lying with my feet on a chi machine felt like it

might be too much. Could that possibly be correct?

Peggy

>>It actually is aerobic exercise, even though you lie on the floor. The

machine

rythmically moves your legs, which are a major portion of your anatomy.

The heart has to pump blood for all the motion taking place, and it is

therefor aerobic.>>

[Guest guest]

> New to all this, so will someone please tell me what a chi machine is?

> Deanna

Dear Deanna:

A chi machine is a device about the size of a bread box that sits on the

floor. It has recesses on top in which you rest your ankles as you lie on

your back on the floor. Press the start button and the machine swings your

ankles, and thus your legs and whole body, back and forth with dimishing

lateral movement as you approach the upper torso and head. This lateral,

back and forth motion sustained for 15 minutes or so appears to give all

your muscles a gentle massage, gets the blood flowing, and the chi (life

energy) flowing -- so that when you suddenly stop after fifteen minutes, you

often experience a nice rushing sensation of chi up through your body.

Hope this helps to explain things.

Cheers,

Colin Yardley

[Guest guest]

But, what is it? Can you describe it to me?

On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:46:53 -0700 " Rapid Recovery Hyperbarics "

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I just bought one, We are all using it daily, I will let you know how it

does, or anything good or bad

Re: chi machine

New to all this, so will someone please tell me what a chi machine is?

Deanna

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Hello List,

Anyone have information on the safety of the Chi Machine for people with

Osteoporosis?

Steve

> ** Original Subject: RE: chi machine

> ** Original Sender: " Karma Tucker " <karma@...>

> ** Original Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:56:44 +0000

> ** Original Message follows...

>

> Hi Peggy,

> I have been using the Swing Machines for quite a while and can tell you that

> when I am exhausted, I look forward to laying down, putting my ankles in the

> machine and relaxing. I have very narrow ankles, so, I wrap mine in foam

> (the egg carton stuff that goes on beds) so my ankles don't get beat up from

> the back and forth motion. I started out with the cheapest version I could

> find. I found it at http://www.firstauction.com It is called an OxyFlow

> machine. It worked just fine for a while, until I wore it out. It only

> cost me $50.00 I won the auction for it. They don't have them in stock all

> the time, so you have to keep an eye out for the auctions if you want one of

> these. You can also just buy them from HSN. I don't know their price. But

> after using this machine I was able to see that it was a wonderful idea and

> I wanted to get a better quality machine that wouldn't wear out so quickly.

> I have an on-line health food store and carry these machines now that I know

> how wonderful they are. I have five different models. You can read about

> them here http://loaves-n-fishes.com/SwingMachines.shtml The one problem I

> have with it occasionally is that it sometimes aggravates an old knee

> injury. Not all the time, just sometimes. Then, I'm not able to stay on

> the machine for the full 15 minutes, just 5 minutes or so.

>

> ~Karma

>

> Re: chi machine

>

>

> Thanks to both Saul & Jim for info on the chi machine. One more question

> (sorry if it's a dumb one): if this is actually aerobic exercise, would it

> be contraindicated for someone who is ill? I know it's passive, so I'm

> thinking it would not only be okay but also be a good idea, increasing

> circulation and oxygen. But I'm feeling particularly depleted today (used

> up too much energy yesterday which was supposed to be going into cleansing).

> I wasn't sure if the machine would help or simply be too much activity--yep,

> I felt so wiped out that lying with my feet on a chi machine felt like it

> might be too much. Could that possibly be correct?

>

> Peggy

> >>It actually is aerobic exercise, even though you lie on the floor. The

> machine

> rythmically moves your legs, which are a major portion of your anatomy.

> The heart has to pump blood for all the motion taking place, and it is

> therefor aerobic.>>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Peggy,

I own a foot shaker, chi machine. It has a variable speed control from very

slow to very fast. It also has a variable speed program which takes you through

the speeds during a fifteen minute cycle automatically. It's higher quality

than most of them. I don't use it much anymore. It's almost new. IF you or

anyone here is interested in purchasing it, email me privately.

P.

Peggy says:

Thanks to both Saul & Jim for info on the chi machine. One more question (sorry

if it's a dumb one): if this is actually aerobic exercise, would it be

contraindicated for someone who is ill? I know it's passive, so I'm thinking it

would not only be okay but also be a good idea, increasing circulation and

oxygen. But I'm feeling particularly depleted today (used up too much energy

yesterday which was supposed to be going into cleansing). I wasn't sure if the

machine would help or simply be too much activity--yep, I felt so wiped out that

lying with my feet on a chi machine felt like it might be too much. Could that

possibly be correct?

[Guest guest]

Peggy,

I own a foot shaker, chi machine. It has a variable speed control from very

slow to very fast. It also has a variable speed program which takes you through

the speeds during a fifteen minute cycle automatically. It's higher quality

than most of them. I don't use it much anymore. It's almost new. IF you or

anyone here is interested in purchasing it, email me privately.

P.

Peggy says:

Thanks to both Saul & Jim for info on the chi machine. One more question (sorry

if it's a dumb one): if this is actually aerobic exercise, would it be

contraindicated for someone who is ill? I know it's passive, so I'm thinking it

would not only be okay but also be a good idea, increasing circulation and

oxygen. But I'm feeling particularly depleted today (used up too much energy

yesterday which was supposed to be going into cleansing). I wasn't sure if the

machine would help or simply be too much activity--yep, I felt so wiped out that

lying with my feet on a chi machine felt like it might be too much. Could that

possibly be correct?

[Guest guest]

You might try this to see:

Lay on the floor or bed, then ask someone to pick up your legs by holding

onto you ankles keeping your feet elevated about 6 inches and about 6 inches

apart. Ask the person to swing your legs left and right with the swing

being about the same distance 6-7 inches. They should swing your legs as

quickly as they are able and as long as they are able. This simulates what

a Chi machine will do for you, since you will probably only be able to talk

this person into doing this for you once! It sounds easy, but it wears a

person out. I have done this for people who wanted to see if the machine

would help them when I didn't have one with me to show them what in the heck

it was.

Hope this helps,

~Karma

chi machine

My mother & I have Restless Leg Syndrome. Would a Chi

Machine be especially helpful to relieve this problem? Or any

other suggestions?

[Guest guest]

Hi , I have had this problem for years. The first time I remember

experiencing it I was 14 years old. It runs in my family. After many years of

suffering from lying in bed for hours trying to sleep while the legs did their

own thing, I discovered that if I get up and exercise my leg muscles until

they're fatigued, this seems to dissipate the excess energy. My legs get

totally relaxed and I can sleep with no problems. I know this flies in the face

of all the advice not to exercise before sleep, but it works for me. I haven't

even tried to go to bed for years without first doing leg exercises. Lying on

the side and doing leg raises on each leg is the main one. If I hold my leg up

in the air for a few seconds, it's harder work which makes it more effective for

tiring the leg and eliminating the excess energy. I've tried calcium and other

supplements--none of them have been at all effective for me. Only the exercise.

Sometimes I wake up in the night and the problem has arrived, so I have to get

up and do it again. It's a real pain, but at least it's a workable solution.

My mother says that lying in bed and tightening her leg muscles intensely for

awhile works for her. It doesn't work for me.

I've always thought it unbelievably ironic that I have long term chronic

fatigue, and yet I have to do something at night to eliminate excess energy from

my system. How nice it would be if I could harness it and use it where and when

I need it.

The chi machine has not helped with this. The sort of rush of vibrations it

produces is just the opposite of what I need to calm down my legs.

Peggy

>>My mother & I have Restless Leg Syndrome. Would a Chi

Machine be especially helpful to relieve this problem? Or any

other suggestions?

>>

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

500 mg of calcium + Vitamin D at bedtime.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH

chi machine

> My mother & I have Restless Leg Syndrome. Would a Chi

> Machine be especially helpful to relieve this problem? Or any

> other suggestions?

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

500 mg of calcium + Vitamin D at bedtime.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH

chi machine

> My mother & I have Restless Leg Syndrome. Would a Chi

> Machine be especially helpful to relieve this problem? Or any

> other suggestions?

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Peggy, I had the same thing for years. Seems to go along with cfs. I did

notice that wheat makes it worse and coral calcium seems to help. As I have

gotten weller (?smile) it has totally gone away. I did the same as you. I had

to exercise my legs. Sometimes I would just tighten the muscles and then relax

them and it would do the trick. Other times I would have to do deep knee bends

or something to really work the leg muscles.

Donna

[Guest guest]

Hi Peggy, I had the same thing for years. Seems to go along with cfs. I did

notice that wheat makes it worse and coral calcium seems to help. As I have

gotten weller (?smile) it has totally gone away. I did the same as you. I had

to exercise my legs. Sometimes I would just tighten the muscles and then relax

them and it would do the trick. Other times I would have to do deep knee bends

or something to really work the leg muscles.

Donna

[Guest guest]

<< http://www.firstauction.com >>

First auction is closed but I found 127 of them for sale on e-bay.

Anywhere from $99.00 to $ 475.00

Christel

[Guest guest]

<< http://www.firstauction.com >>

First auction is closed but I found 127 of them for sale on e-bay.

Anywhere from $99.00 to $ 475.00

Christel

[Guest guest]

Hi Sandy,

I use mine twice a day. 15 minutes each. The Oxycisor is the machine that

Home Shopping Network used to sell, then had to re-name it to the OxyFlow

machine. It is the one that can be picked up some times for under $100.00

from http://www.firstauction.com I watched everyday for a couple of months

and won a half hour auction for my first machine. I just couldn't bring

myself to spend several hundred dollars for one. Since then, I have tried

almost every swing machine on the market and sell most of them too. The

problem with the original Sun Harmony Chi Machine, is that it is MLM and

costs more because of it. It is a great machine though, very good quality

machine.

~Karma

chi machine

Hi everyone,

I've had an oxycisor in my bedroom for two years and haven't used

it. Thankfully, this list is motivating me to put it into action.

How many times a day should this be used for best results? I don't

remember.

Thanks

Sandy

[Guest guest]

Hi Sandy,

I use mine twice a day. 15 minutes each. The Oxycisor is the machine that

Home Shopping Network used to sell, then had to re-name it to the OxyFlow

machine. It is the one that can be picked up some times for under $100.00

from http://www.firstauction.com I watched everyday for a couple of months

and won a half hour auction for my first machine. I just couldn't bring

myself to spend several hundred dollars for one. Since then, I have tried

almost every swing machine on the market and sell most of them too. The

problem with the original Sun Harmony Chi Machine, is that it is MLM and

costs more because of it. It is a great machine though, very good quality

machine.

~Karma

chi machine

Hi everyone,

I've had an oxycisor in my bedroom for two years and haven't used

it. Thankfully, this list is motivating me to put it into action.

How many times a day should this be used for best results? I don't

remember.

Thanks

Sandy

[Guest guest]

Oh, my,

I'm sorry. I hadn't checked back for a while on firstauction. I didn't

realize they were closed. I sell my machines on e-bay too. I sell brand

new ones below cost when I need some space for other stuff. :-) I don't

have any up for auction right now though.

~Karma

Re: chi machine

<< http://www.firstauction.com >>

First auction is closed but I found 127 of them for sale on e-bay.

Anywhere from $99.00 to $ 475.00

Christel

[Guest guest]

Oh, my,

I'm sorry. I hadn't checked back for a while on firstauction. I didn't

realize they were closed. I sell my machines on e-bay too. I sell brand

new ones below cost when I need some space for other stuff. :-) I don't

have any up for auction right now though.

~Karma

Re: chi machine

<< http://www.firstauction.com >>

First auction is closed but I found 127 of them for sale on e-bay.

Anywhere from $99.00 to $ 475.00

Christel