cholesterol

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LMAO! That'll be the day...

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> Re: cholesterol

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> Posted by: " Chuck B " gumboyaya@...

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> gumbo482001 <gumbo482001>

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> Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:19 pm (PST)

>

> Nancie,

>

> You wrote:

> >

> >

> > oops- wrong group- got confused between thyroid groups, lol-

>

> Thank you. I was getting worried about what is left of my memory. I was

> about ready to get my hair analyzed.

>

> Chuck

[Guest guest]

She recommends liver cleanses.

Lori

>

> What does Dr say about high cholesterol?

>

> Joyce

>

[Guest guest]

Joyce,

The best articles on cholesterol are by Enig who is a big coconut oil

fanatic. High cholesterol is not what you have led to believe. It has very

little bearing to heart disease as you will read. Cholesterol surrounds the

blood cell to protect it from viruses, free radicals and other harmful sources

in the body. In essence, it is a protective coating. Saturated fats are a

necessity to the body. Why zapping and ridding your body of parasites is so

important is that parasites create viruses and other diseases which prompts the

body to produce cholesterol to protect the blood cells. Yes, you are unhealthy

when you have high cholesterol but as you will read in 's work, it has very

little to do with heart disease. In her work, extra virgin coconut oil is a

great source of healthy fat and possesses many ingredients which rids the body

of parasites and viruses. That is why the societies that live on this source of

healthy fat have hardly any instances of heart

disease.

Dr. 's work is so important because her methods rid the body of diseases

and viruses. When these are present in the body, the body fights it by

producing cholesterol to protect the cells. So what do we do when we have high

coholesterol ??? Go on a no fat diet !!! How stupid. We should be loading up

on fat like coconut oil and ridding our body of the viruses and diseases which

make the body need this cholesterol to protect our cells. Dr. s work is

right on for ridding your body of high cholesterol. Just not as you would

think. I think you will find your answers in Enig's work. She and DR.

would make a good pair.

Good luck,

snafflesnshelties <snaffles@...> wrote: What

does Dr say about high cholesterol?

Joyce

[Guest guest]

she also says 200 plus your age so if youre 45 that would be 245 -

only statement that she has EVER made that I question lol

Dr@...: howland@...: Sat, 17 May 2008 13:24:41

+0000Subject: Re: cholesterol

She recommends liver cleanses.Lori>> What does Dr say about high

cholesterol?> > Joyce>

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[Guest guest]

You should maybe be thinking about raising your HDL instead of lowering your

LDL. This is getting off topic, but do you take fish oil? That can help

raise HDL. Also, exercise and plenty of good fats.

BarbF

In a message dated 6/7/2008 10:14:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

mlawson66@... writes:

Looking at the

lab, I've got a red flag on the HDL. It is supposed to be > 40

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[Guest guest]

Hi Barb,

> You should maybe be thinking about raising your HDL instead of lowering your

> LDL.

Yeah, I quit taking the statin long ago. I have been supplementing

with flax, hemp, and pumpkin seed oil, but I Topper's site had some

good data that those oils are bad for thyroid. I picked up some cod

liver oil, and ordered a bunch of Krill oil. It just seems funny that

after all these lectures about avoiding fats, I need to supplement with

them.

> This is getting off topic, but do you take fish oil? That can help

> raise HDL. Also, exercise and plenty of good fats.

Got the exercise covered, will work on getting some healthy fats

back into my diet. Right now my diet consists of a blue berry

rice and hemp protein shake every morning, a plate full of peas

carrots and celery that I graze on all day, and a black bean and

rice non dairy low fat burrito for supper. Been doing this since the

new year trying to lose weight. I've lost more weight after 2 weeks or

so of Armour than I had for the previous several months. Maybe now

I can eat something once in a while, but wait. I've got no appetite now.

I'm sure that it will all balance out eventually.

Thanks for all the good input.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Read your post about lowering your HDL.

My HDL is 69 (40-59). I do take Fish Oil and the endo told me to cut my Vytorin

in half. I try to exercise so will this take care of the matter.

I was under the impression that it was good to keep this high.

Thank you - Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Hi Bonnie,

> Read your post about lowering your HDL.

>

> My HDL is 69 (40-59). I do take Fish Oil and the endo told me to cut my

Vytorin in half. I

try to exercise so will this take care of the matter.

Wow, I think I need to start glugging down lots of Fish Oil. Those are great

numbers.

Congratulations on being able to lower your dose of Vytorin.

> I was under the impression that it was good to keep this high.

You are absolutely right, they want the LDL as low as you can get it, HDL as

high as you can

get it, as long as the total cholesterol number is less than 200.

> Thank you - Bonnie

You bet, and thanks for helping me decide to try Fish Oil.

Best, -Mike

[Guest guest]

Amazing...we can do everything but wire our jaws shut and if the thyroid

isn't working we get fat. Good to hear the weight is coming off.

BarbF

In a message dated 6/7/2008 6:17:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

mlawson66@... writes:

I've lost more weight after 2 weeks or

so of Armour than I had for the previous several months

**************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch " Cooking with

Tyler Florence " on AOL Food.

(http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4? & NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

[Guest guest]

Hi Bonnie. You are right...It is good to keep HDL up...I thought that was

what my post said. But you never know with me...I can twist things around in

a heartbeat!

BarbF

In a message dated 6/7/2008 11:14:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

Retirement2004@... writes:

I was under the impression that it was good to keep this high.

**************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch " Cooking with

Tyler Florence " on AOL Food.

(http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4? & NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

[Guest guest]

nothing is off topic to me! and this is good advice.

Gracia

You should maybe be thinking about raising your HDL instead of lowering your

LDL. This is getting off topic, but do you take fish oil? That can help

raise HDL. Also, exercise and plenty of good fats.

BarbF

In a message dated 6/7/2008 10:14:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

mlawson66@... writes:

Looking at the

lab, I've got a red flag on the HDL. It is supposed to be > 40

**************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch " Cooking with

Tyler Florence " on AOL Food.

(http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4? & NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

[Guest guest]

you never want to lower your HDL- this is the good protective cholesterol. you

wart to lower the LDL, VLDL, but NOT the HDL

From: Retirement2004@...

Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 8:14 PM

hypothyroidism ; hypothyroidism

Cc: Bbircie@...

Subject: Re: Re: Cholesterol

Hi,

Read your post about lowering your HDL.

My HDL is 69 (40-59). I do take Fish Oil and the endo told me to cut my Vytorin

in half. I try to exercise so will this take care of the matter.

I was under the impression that it was good to keep this high.

Thank you - Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Hi

That is my concern as well ..... I've been taking cholesterol meds for several

years now and my family and friends are telling me the same that I'm going to

get in trouble (with higher cholesterol) on such a high fat and high protein

diet. There's heart disease in my family so I have to be extra careful about

those things.

I can't seem to find the cholesterol article either

I did hear that too .... liver and kidney functioned could be compromised by

the diet but I don't know if that is true or not ....

millersonbroad <rn.miller1@...> wrote:

Hi, could someone please give me a link to the article explaining the

cholesterol myth? I'm sorry, I can't find it, still new to the group.

My mother is worried that I am going to have high cholesterol and that

my kidney and liver function will be compromised due to this diet!

Have you heard this? Apparently some people think a high-protein diet

will cause these problems.

Thankyou

. M

Oz

[Guest guest]

Hi, I found the cholesterol articles, they were here in the files, I

was looking on Bee's website.

> Hi, could someone please give me a link to the article

explaining the

> cholesterol myth? I'm sorry, I can't find it, still new to the

group.

> My mother is worried that I am going to have high cholesterol and

that

> my kidney and liver function will be compromised due to this diet!

> Have you heard this? Apparently some people think a high-protein

diet

> will cause these problems.

>

> Thankyou

>

> . M

> Oz

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>Hi, could someone please give me a link to the article explaining the

cholesterol myth? I'm sorry, I can't find it, still new to the group.

>My mother is worried that I am going to have high cholesterol and that my

kidney and liver function will be compromised due to this diet!

>Have you heard this? Apparently some people think a high-protein diet will

cause these problems.

>Thankyou

>. M

>Oz

It's explained quite well in here

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php but you can also go

to Bee's site www.healingnaturallybybee.com

<http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/> and do a search on 'cholesterol' in

the top right corner. It will give you some more articles. Also, this is not

a high protein diet by any means.

a

[Guest guest]

Cholesterol has little to do with heart disease. In fact, low

cholesterol is dangerous. If you read the black box that Lipitor

comes in, it states that the statin does not reduce the risk of heart

attack. In other words, the drug is useless. The liver regulates

cholesterol production. Cholesterol in foods simply replaces

cholesterol manufactured in the liver so any attempt to reduce

cholesterol consumption (there is no reason to do so) will be

compensated for by increased production in the liver. All these

dangerous drugs is to lower the efficiency of the liver by inhibiting

the production of a substance that is required to remain healthy. The

higher the cholesterol the less there is a risk of cancer. There is

no such thing as 'bad' cholesterol. It is the lipoprotein (a) that

forms protective plaques over arteries weakened by poor collagen

production that would otherwise rupture and cause a hemorrhage.

Lowering of cholesterol levels is a stupid and dangerous thing to do.

The real risk for heart disease is the level of inflammation which is

measured by C-reactive protein produced often by a subacute infection

going on somewhere in the body. About 1/2 of those who suffer heart

attacks do not have excessive plaques in their arteries. Most heart

attacks are electrical in nature due to a build-up of acid in the

ventricles of the heart. Exercise produces lactic acids which, when

added to existing acids in the blood, will cause a loss of electrical

conductivity in the ventricular impulse nerves that produce a co-

ordinated rhythm in the left ventricular muscle producing an infarct.

Rigerous exercise is unnecessary and has killed many people who are

usually out of shape suddenly decide to go out for a run only to keel

over in the driveway from an acid over-load. Cayenne pepper placed

under the tongue works faster and better than does a defibrilator in

restoring normal heart pumping.

> Hi, could someone please give me a link to the article

explaining the

> cholesterol myth? I'm sorry, I can't find it, still new to the

group.

> My mother is worried that I am going to have high cholesterol and

that

> my kidney and liver function will be compromised due to this diet!

> Have you heard this? Apparently some people think a high-protein

diet

> will cause these problems.

>

> Thankyou

>

> . M

> Oz

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Also, this is not

> a high protein diet by any means.

>

> a

>

Yes, I was going to point that out too. This isn't a high-protein

program. It's actually a high-fat program which scares people even

more! I found the best way to handle it with my family is just not

tell them much. I haven't been able to make anyone else understand,

so I just quit trying. Thank goodness my husband is so open-minded

and we can share this journey together, but as for everyone else, I

just keep it to myself now. , if your mom is anything like

mine, it's probably best just to not tell her much about this program.

Good luck.

in Tennessee

[Guest guest]

It's funny you say that as I don't tell my friends any more either. They

think I'm crazy when I try to explain to them what is going on even my own

daughter thinks I'm NUTS and is starving myself just to be thin .... ya no

kidding, I sure wish I could gain a few pounds these days and feel better.

People say I look very pale and thin and ask if I'm ok and I just say yes now

and nothing more.....

Singhurst <sarahwalker168@...> wrote:

>

> Also, this is not

> a high protein diet by any means.

>

> a

>

Yes, I was going to point that out too. This isn't a high-protein

program. It's actually a high-fat program which scares people even

more! I found the best way to handle it with my family is just not

tell them much. I haven't been able to make anyone else understand,

so I just quit trying. Thank goodness my husband is so open-minded

and we can share this journey together, but as for everyone else, I

just keep it to myself now. , if your mom is anything like

mine, it's probably best just to not tell her much about this program.

Good luck.

in Tennessee

[Guest guest]

My mom has the same concerns,

>

> Hi, could someone please give me a link to the article explaining the

> cholesterol myth? I'm sorry, I can't find it, still new to the group.

> My mother is worried that I am going to have high cholesterol and that

> my kidney and liver function will be compromised due to this diet!

> Have you heard this? Apparently some people think a high-protein diet

> will cause these problems.

>

> Thankyou

>

> . M

> Oz

>

[Guest guest]

Check some of these out.

Irene

><http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/fats_phony.html>http://www.westonapri\

ce.org/knowyourfats/fats_phony.html

>http://www.ravnskov.nu/myth1.htm

><http://www.mercola.com/2005/feb/26/high_cholesterol.htm>http://www.mercola.com\

/2005/feb/26/high_cholesterol.htm

>http://www.mercola.com/2000/jan/23/thyroid_disease_high_cholesterol.htm

<http://www.thincs.org/>http://www.thincs.org/

http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/index.html

><<http://www.jpands.org/vol10no3/colpo.pdf>http://www.jpands.org/vol10no3/colpo\

..pdf>http://www.jpands.org/vol10no3/colpo.pdf

If you are interested in cholesterol these two are short:

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wcaHp4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8SSCNaaDcE & feature=related

And if you have a bit of time, this one is 9 minutes:

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VcXo1I

If you like the technical stuff this is the REALLY interesting one:

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHIA8usGxEM & feature=related>http://www.youtube.c\

om/watch?v=fHIA8usGxEM & feature=related

9 minutes of everything you never knew about statins:

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE_RIQY53ys & feature=related>http://www.youtube.c\

om/watch?v=jE_RIQY53ys & feature=related

At 04:51 AM 6/28/2008, you wrote:

>Hi

>

>That is my concern as well ..... I've been taking cholesterol meds for

>several years now and my family and friends are telling me the same that

>I'm going to get in trouble (with higher cholesterol) on such a high fat

>and high protein diet. There's heart disease in my family so I have to be

>extra careful about those things.

>

>I can't seem to find the cholesterol article either

>

>I did hear that too .... liver and kidney functioned could be compromised

>by the diet but I don't know if that is true or not ....

>

>

>

>millersonbroad <<mailto:rn.miller1%40bigpond.com>rn.miller1@...>

>wrote:

>Hi, could someone please give me a link to the article explaining the

>cholesterol myth? I'm sorry, I can't find it, still new to the group.

>My mother is worried that I am going to have high cholesterol and that

>my kidney and liver function will be compromised due to this diet!

>Have you heard this? Apparently some people think a high-protein diet

>will cause these problems.

>

>Thankyou

>

>. M

>Oz

>

>

[Guest guest]

Excellent description. I just found this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awA2fsa94MI & feature=related

which basically says what you just said.

Irene

At 05:54 AM 6/28/2008, you wrote:

>Cholesterol has little to do with heart disease. In fact, low

>cholesterol is dangerous. If you read the black box that Lipitor

>comes in, it states that the statin does not reduce the risk of heart

>attack. In other words, the drug is useless. The liver regulates

>cholesterol production. Cholesterol in foods simply replaces

>cholesterol manufactured in the liver so any attempt to reduce

>cholesterol consumption (there is no reason to do so) will be

>compensated for by increased production in the liver. All these

>dangerous drugs is to lower the efficiency of the liver by inhibiting

>the production of a substance that is required to remain healthy. The

>higher the cholesterol the less there is a risk of cancer. There is

>no such thing as 'bad' cholesterol. It is the lipoprotein (a) that

>forms protective plaques over arteries weakened by poor collagen

>production that would otherwise rupture and cause a hemorrhage.

>Lowering of cholesterol levels is a stupid and dangerous thing to do.

>

>The real risk for heart disease is the level of inflammation which is

>measured by C-reactive protein produced often by a subacute infection

>going on somewhere in the body. About 1/2 of those who suffer heart

>attacks do not have excessive plaques in their arteries. Most heart

>attacks are electrical in nature due to a build-up of acid in the

>ventricles of the heart. Exercise produces lactic acids which, when

>added to existing acids in the blood, will cause a loss of electrical

>conductivity in the ventricular impulse nerves that produce a co-

>ordinated rhythm in the left ventricular muscle producing an infarct.

>Rigerous exercise is unnecessary and has killed many people who are

>usually out of shape suddenly decide to go out for a run only to keel

>over in the driveway from an acid over-load. Cayenne pepper placed

>under the tongue works faster and better than does a defibrilator in

>restoring normal heart pumping.

>

>

> > Hi, could someone please give me a link to the article

>explaining the

> > cholesterol myth? I'm sorry, I can't find it, still new to the

>group.

> > My mother is worried that I am going to have high cholesterol and

>that

> > my kidney and liver function will be compromised due to this diet!

> > Have you heard this? Apparently some people think a high-protein

>diet

> > will cause these problems.

> >

> > Thankyou

> >

> > . M

> > Oz

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

, this diet is moderate protein, not high protein. However even

if it was high protein it wouldn't cause any health problems

whatsoever. If it did the Eskimos Dr. Price studied would have had

mega health problem because they only ate meats and fats. However they

were so healthy they didn't even have cavities. See the Myths & Truths

About Beef on my website to understand more about protein:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/meat2.php

Bee

>

> Hi, could someone please give me a link to the article explaining the

> cholesterol myth? I'm sorry, I can't find it, still new to the group.

> My mother is worried that I am going to have high cholesterol and

that

> my kidney and liver function will be compromised due to this diet!

> Have you heard this? Apparently some people think a high-protein diet

> will cause these problems.

>

> Thankyou

>

> . M

> Oz

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi

>

> That is my concern as well ..... I've been taking cholesterol

meds for several years now and my family and friends are telling me

the same that I'm going to get in trouble (with higher cholesterol)

on such a high fat and high protein diet. There's heart disease in my

family so I have to be extra careful about those things.

>

> I can't seem to find the cholesterol article either

>

> I did hear that too .... liver and kidney functioned could be

compromised by the diet but I don't know if that is true or not ....

==>If you type cholesterol in Search on my website you will get 3

good articles in the top 4 that come up. You can also search our

message archives, or search on www.westonaprice.org or

www.mercola.com for cholesterol information.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi, I found the cholesterol articles, they were here in the files, I

> was looking on Bee's website.

==>, when I typed cholesterol in the search on my website 3

articles came up of the first 4 listed.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Thankyou so much for all your input re; cholesterol, I have some

research to do! Sorry I didn't find the articles myself, still not

very techno-savvy.

. M

> >Hi, could someone please give me a link to the article explaining

the

> >cholesterol myth? I'm sorry, I can't find it, still new to the

group.

> >My mother is worried that I am going to have high cholesterol and

that

> >my kidney and liver function will be compromised due to this diet!

> >Have you heard this? Apparently some people think a high-protein

diet

> >will cause these problems.

> >

> >Thankyou

> >

> >. M

> >Oz

> >

> >