cholesterol

[Guest guest]

Amino acids have to be taken as a group first....amino acid capsule containing all the amino acids...at the same time add lysonal,and arginine....yes it will clean up plaque in the arteries and build the liver. Test it if you want by checking the pulse on the inside ankle on each foot...(should find it in the soft spot) then check again each week and you will feel the pulse getting stronger.

cholesterol

I want to thank everyone for their help with my previous inquires. I now have another.

I had that blood work done that I had put off for a week because of die off. Can any one think of why my cholesterol would be up? Could it be attributed to the cleanses? Should I now do a liver cleanse or kidney cleanse next? I haven't changed my diet... maybe just eating a little less. I have been doing both the bowel and parasite cleanses.

Thanks,

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[Guest guest]

The best source of amino acids is from the fresh green grass juices - kamut/barley/wheat-grass juice. It is always best to get nutrients from whole food sources whenever possible.

cholesterol

I want to thank everyone for their help with my previous inquires. I now have another.

I had that blood work done that I had put off for a week because of die off. Can any one think of why my cholesterol would be up? Could it be attributed to the cleanses? Should I now do a liver cleanse or kidney cleanse next? I haven't changed my diet... maybe just eating a little less. I have been doing both the bowel and parasite cleanses.

Thanks,

KimSubscription email: bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups

[Guest guest]

Kris, what is a " chubby " ? Thanks, Kathy

In a message dated 8/24/00 5:26:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

atlantic1@... writes:

> Thought I would share this with you all since I have been talking a lot

> about Kombucha tea:

> " Hi Everyone,

> I have some new chubbys, ready for adoption. They are adorable and healthy,

> and need a good home, actually... I love them so much I wish I could keep

> all of them, but, I would be run out of the home with a multitude of jars

in

> a few months;)

[Guest guest]

Thought I would share this with you all since I have been talking a lot

about Kombucha tea:

" Hi Everyone,

I have some new chubbys, ready for adoption. They are adorable and healthy,

and need a good home, actually... I love them so much I wish I could keep

all of them, but, I would be run out of the home with a multitude of jars in

a few months;)

Just send me your address and I will mail them out to you, let me know how

many you will need.

Just mail me the postage after you receive them.

Elaine

Elaine121@...

I wanted to share this special story with you,

I received a phone call from one of the ladies that I sent one of the babies

to, her cancer is not only in remission they could not find any cancer cells

at all!!!

She said she started with small amounts since it gave her so much energy and

this past six months she has been drinking 3 eight ounces a day, as an added

bonus she no longer takes her cholesterol medication at all and those tests

came out great!

Elaine "

Best wishes,

Kris

Kombucha gives long life and a merry heart!

Smart is believing only half of what you hear,

brilliant is knowing which half to believe.

Atlantic1@...

[Guest guest]

I believe the woman was referring to her kombucha colonies as being chubby

because sometimes in the fermenting process one ends up with thin babies

instead of the opposite. I think it is cute. Anyway, I loved her

testimonial at the end.

Cheers!

Kris

Smart is believing only half of what you hear,

brilliant is knowing which half to believe.

Atlantic1@...

[Guest guest]

With all that healthy eating and exercise, is your HDL high (which it

should be!)? My total was 218 last time, but my HDL was 60 which more than

makes up for it. How about if you take your Triglycerides and divide them

by your HDL? The ratio should be less than 2 ideally and that is one of

the best indicators there is. My Tri/HDL was 69/60 = 1.15. Before diet

modifications (mostly low-carb with lots of exercise) that ratio was more

like 126/34 = 3.7...much worse.

At 12:26 PM 3/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:

>I have the same problem. 5' 10'', weight 150, I surf, hike, backpack,

kayak, walk 2 to 4 miles a day and still have high cholestrol, over 240. I

stay away from fatty foods, no fast food, nothing fried, little dairy,

mostly chicken breast (skinless), fish,

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have hypothyroid...been taking armour since february

and now i have a cholesterol problem....went to doc

yesterday and he put me on lipitor.....10 mg.....my

cholesterol is 243.....I never had this problem

before.....does anyone else have this also...and what

do you do other then meds?

susan

--- jimchristianhall <jimchristianhall@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> I have Type 2 diabetes. Does anyone else in this

> group have diabetes and

> how do you believe it affects your thyroid?

>

> Jim

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

My sister has high cholesterol and is also hypo. My question for you is -

have you had your triglycerides or HDL levels done? Her's were very high

and along with the high cholesterol was diagnosed with something called

dysmetabolic syndrome (AKA syndrome X). It's pretty scary b/c it puts her

at high risk for stroke and/or heart attack and she's only 32.

I have hypothyroid...been taking armour since february

and now i have a cholesterol problem....went to doc

yesterday and he put me on lipitor.....10 mg.....my

cholesterol is 243.....I never had this problem

before.....does anyone else have this also...and what

do you do other then meds?

susan

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[Guest guest]

Change your diet see Thyroid Diet - cholesterol is high carbs. and sugar and

not fats http://www.thyroidsupportgroup.co.uk you may be toxic to Armour as

many people are - perhaps bovine thyroid would be better = check out clean

virus free files

Re: Cholesterol

I have hypothyroid...been taking armour since february

and now i have a cholesterol problem....went to doc

yesterday and he put me on lipitor.....10 mg.....my

cholesterol is 243.....I never had this problem

before.....does anyone else have this also...and what

do you do other then meds?

susan

--- jimchristianhall <jimchristianhall@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> I have Type 2 diabetes. Does anyone else in this

> group have diabetes and

> how do you believe it affects your thyroid?

>

> Jim

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

what is the brand name for bovine thyroid?

Kathy

> Change your diet see Thyroid Diet -

cholesterol is high carbs. and sugar and

> not fats

http://www.thyroidsupportgroup.co.uk you may

be toxic to Armour as

> many people are - perhaps bovine thyroid

would be better = check out clean

> virus free files

[Guest guest]

I am with you on everything except that Armour has unnatural stuff in it,

and why are people " toxic " to Armour? You mean alllergic? Sometimes people

need other hormones that work with Armour. They think Armour is the

problem when it's not.

Gracia

> Change your diet see Thyroid Diet - cholesterol is high carbs. and sugar

and

> not fats http://www.thyroidsupportgroup.co.uk you may be toxic to Armour

as

> many people are - perhaps bovine thyroid would be better = check out clean

> virus free files

> Re: Cholesterol

>

>

> I have hypothyroid...been taking armour since february

> and now i have a cholesterol problem....went to doc

> yesterday and he put me on lipitor.....10 mg.....my

> cholesterol is 243.....I never had this problem

> before.....does anyone else have this also...and what

> do you do other then meds?

>

> susan

> --- jimchristianhall <jimchristianhall@...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I have Type 2 diabetes. Does anyone else in this

> > group have diabetes and

> > how do you believe it affects your thyroid?

> >

> > Jim

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hopefully she is on thyroid medicine for her cholesterol.

Gracia

> ,

> My sister has high cholesterol and is also hypo. My question for you is -

> have you had your triglycerides or HDL levels done? Her's were very high

> and along with the high cholesterol was diagnosed with something called

> dysmetabolic syndrome (AKA syndrome X). It's pretty scary b/c it puts her

> at high risk for stroke and/or heart attack and she's only 32.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> I have hypothyroid...been taking armour since february

> and now i have a cholesterol problem....went to doc

> yesterday and he put me on lipitor.....10 mg.....my

> cholesterol is 243.....I never had this problem

> before.....does anyone else have this also...and what

> do you do other then meds?

>

> susan

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

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>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You might need more Armour, DHEA which cycles into other hormones (and

estrogen seems to lower cholesterol) and/or EFAs like flax or cod liver oil.

But not lipitor.

Gracia

> I have hypothyroid...been taking armour since february

> and now i have a cholesterol problem....went to doc

> yesterday and he put me on lipitor.....10 mg.....my

> cholesterol is 243.....I never had this problem

> before.....does anyone else have this also...and what

> do you do other then meds?

>

> susan

> --- jimchristianhall <jimchristianhall@...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I have Type 2 diabetes. Does anyone else in this

> > group have diabetes and

> > how do you believe it affects your thyroid?

> >

> > Jim

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I tried the natural way...with niacin and flax seed

oil....but it did nothing

--- Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

>

> You might need more Armour, DHEA which cycles into

> other hormones (and

> estrogen seems to lower cholesterol) and/or EFAs

> like flax or cod liver oil.

> But not lipitor.

> Gracia

>

>

> > I have hypothyroid...been taking armour since

> february

> > and now i have a cholesterol problem....went to

> doc

> > yesterday and he put me on lipitor.....10

> mg.....my

> > cholesterol is 243.....I never had this problem

> > before.....does anyone else have this also...and

> what

> > do you do other then meds?

> >

> > susan

> > --- jimchristianhall <jimchristianhall@...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I have Type 2 diabetes. Does anyone else in

> this

> > > group have diabetes and

> > > how do you believe it affects your thyroid?

> > >

> > > Jim

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Gracia,

she's been on thyroid medicine for years now and it wasn't helping her

cholesterol, so now she is on lipitor.

----Original Message Follows----

From: " Gracia " <circe@...>

Reply-hypothyroidism

<hypothyroidism >

Subject: Re: Cholesterol

Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 23:32:29 -0400

Hopefully she is on thyroid medicine for her cholesterol.

Gracia

> ,

> My sister has high cholesterol and is also hypo. My question for you is

-

> have you had your triglycerides or HDL levels done? Her's were very high

> and along with the high cholesterol was diagnosed with something called

> dysmetabolic syndrome (AKA syndrome X). It's pretty scary b/c it puts

her

> at high risk for stroke and/or heart attack and she's only 32.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> I have hypothyroid...been taking armour since february

> and now i have a cholesterol problem....went to doc

> yesterday and he put me on lipitor.....10 mg.....my

> cholesterol is 243.....I never had this problem

> before.....does anyone else have this also...and what

> do you do other then meds?

>

> susan

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't see what being on thyroid medicine would have to do with

cholesterol. I've never had high cholesterol . . . not even before my

thyroid problem was diagnosed. Syndrome X is primarily a stress-

related disorder, though, so most important would be for 's

sister to do as much as possilbe to bring her stress level down.

Celeste

Gracia wrote:

>

> Hopefully she is on thyroid medicine for her cholesterol.

>

> > wrote:

> > My sister has high cholesterol and is also hypo. My question for

you is -

> > have you had your triglycerides or HDL levels done? Her's were

very high

> > and along with the high cholesterol was diagnosed with something

called

> > dysmetabolic syndrome (AKA syndrome X). It's pretty scary b/c it

puts her

> > at high risk for stroke and/or heart attack and she's only 32.

[Guest guest]

" An estimated 13 million Americans have a thyroid disorder. Nearly half of

them may be undiagnosed. Ninety percent of people with diagnosed

hypothyroidism have increased cholesterol or triglycerides increasing their

risk of heart disease. Studies have shown a direct correlation between the

treatment of thyroid disease and the lowering of cholesterol levels. " -

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/4614/37363

At 03:29 PM 6/27/2002, you wrote:

>I don't see what being on thyroid medicine would have to do with

>cholesterol. I've never had high cholesterol . . . not even before my

>thyroid problem was diagnosed. Syndrome X is primarily a stress-

>related disorder, though, so most important would be for 's

>sister to do as much as possilbe to bring her stress level down.

>

>Celeste

[Guest guest]

Hi U was recently informed by a Dr that Cholesterol, allergies, asthma, Diabetes

type 2 and arthritis we all linked and can be a part of Hypo.

This was a normal Dr not a complementary type one.

C

I don't see what being on thyroid medicine would have to do with

cholesterol. I've never had high cholesterol . . . not even before my

thyroid problem was diagnosed. Syndrome X is primarily a stress-

related disorder, though, so most important would be for 's

sister to do as much as possilbe to bring her stress level down.

Celeste

Gracia wrote:

>

> Hopefully she is on thyroid medicine for her cholesterol.

>

> > wrote:

> > My sister has high cholesterol and is also hypo. My question for

you is -

> > have you had your triglycerides or HDL levels done? Her's were

very high

> > and along with the high cholesterol was diagnosed with something

called

> > dysmetabolic syndrome (AKA syndrome X). It's pretty scary b/c it

puts her

> > at high risk for stroke and/or heart attack and she's only 32.

[Guest guest]

Kat,

That was an interesting article. I think it would have been even more

intersting if the links to the supporting articles weren't dead, as I

would have liked to read more. I guess this explains why my endo

always orders cholesterol tests for me at every follow up. So far,

though, my cholesterol levels have always been in the desirable range.

Celeste

Katrina wrote:

> " An estimated 13 million Americans have a thyroid disorder. Nearly

half of

> them may be undiagnosed. Ninety percent of people with diagnosed

> hypothyroidism have increased cholesterol or triglycerides

increasing their

> risk of heart disease. Studies have shown a direct correlation

between the

> treatment of thyroid disease and the lowering of cholesterol

levels. " -

> http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/4614/37363

>

[Guest guest]

Back in the old days Armour thyroid was THE treatment for high cholesterol,

but then high cholesterol was seen as a symptom that one needed thyroid.

There are many hypos with high cholesterol, and many women need to use

compounded estrogen and DHEA with thyroid med to lower it.

Gracia

> I don't see what being on thyroid medicine would have to do with

> cholesterol. I've never had high cholesterol . . . not even before my

> thyroid problem was diagnosed. Syndrome X is primarily a stress-

> related disorder, though, so most important would be for 's

> sister to do as much as possilbe to bring her stress level down.

>

> Celeste

>

>

> Gracia wrote:

> >

> > Hopefully she is on thyroid medicine for her cholesterol.

> >

> > > wrote:

> > > My sister has high cholesterol and is also hypo. My question for

> you is -

> > > have you had your triglycerides or HDL levels done? Her's were

> very high

> > > and along with the high cholesterol was diagnosed with something

> called

> > > dysmetabolic syndrome (AKA syndrome X). It's pretty scary b/c it

> puts her

> > > at high risk for stroke and/or heart attack and she's only 32.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Gracia,

Do you mean back when Armour thyroid was unstable and couldn't even

be depended on as an effective thyroid medication?

As for DHEA, it has also been shown to decrease levels of HDL

( " good " ) cholesterol in women, and could increase the risk of heart

disease, the leading killer of older women. It has also been shown to

increase body fat in women.

Celeste

Gracia wrote:

> Back in the old days Armour thyroid was THE treatment for high

cholesterol,

> but then high cholesterol was seen as a symptom that one needed

thyroid.

> There are many hypos with high cholesterol, and many women need to

use

> compounded estrogen and DHEA with thyroid med to lower it.

[Guest guest]

, hormones work with thyroid, especially T3. Does she get T3, EFAs,

progesterone or compounded estrogen? Lipitor won't address the problem just

the symptoms. Patient gets sicker.

Gracia

> Gracia,

> she's been on thyroid medicine for years now and it wasn't helping her

> cholesterol, so now she is on lipitor.

>

>

>

>

> ----Original Message Follows----

> From: " Gracia " <circe@...>

> Reply-hypothyroidism

> <hypothyroidism >

> Subject: Re: Cholesterol

> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 23:32:29 -0400

>

>

> Hopefully she is on thyroid medicine for her cholesterol.

> Gracia

>

> > ,

> > My sister has high cholesterol and is also hypo. My question for you

is

> -

> > have you had your triglycerides or HDL levels done? Her's were very

high

> > and along with the high cholesterol was diagnosed with something called

> > dysmetabolic syndrome (AKA syndrome X). It's pretty scary b/c it puts

> her

> > at high risk for stroke and/or heart attack and she's only 32.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I have hypothyroid...been taking armour since february

> > and now i have a cholesterol problem....went to doc

> > yesterday and he put me on lipitor.....10 mg.....my

> > cholesterol is 243.....I never had this problem

> > before.....does anyone else have this also...and what

> > do you do other then meds?

> >

> > susan

> >

> >

> > _________________________________________________________________

> > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Gracia,

I think the info you have on DHEA is probably only for men. It's

effects are quite different for men than for women. Only recently

have its effects on women been studied. It's that gender bias thing I

think.

Celeste

Gracia wrote:

> Sorry but your info on dhea is completely different from mine.

>

[Guest guest]

No it's not just men that benefit from dhea--just the dosages are different.

You are aware those with autoimmune diseases are low in dhea?

> Gracia,

>

> I think the info you have on DHEA is probably only for men. It's

> effects are quite different for men than for women. Only recently

> have its effects on women been studied. It's that gender bias thing I

> think.

>

> Celeste

>

> Gracia wrote:

> > Sorry but your info on dhea is completely different from mine.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Not necessarily. I have two autoimmune disorders (Hashimoto's

thyroiditis and adenomyosis), but my DHEA levels are not low. This is

something that my endocrinologist orders a test for at every follow

up.

There has been some research that indicates that DHEA could be

helpful for lupus, though.

Celeste

Gracia wrote:

> You are aware those with autoimmune diseases are low in dhea?

>