ear infections

[Guest guest]

I know this is off topic so I'll keep it short. We have used ear candles on my

daughter (15 months) for excessive wax during teething and a chiropractor and

she has never had an ear infection (never vaccinated)

[Guest guest]

What are ear candles? This is very interesting, as I have three children and

have never heard of this before.

Thanks!

Tammy

aswassoc@... wrote:

> From: aswassoc@...

>

> I know this is off topic so I'll keep it short. We have used ear candles on my

daughter (15 months) for excessive wax during teething and a chiropractor and

she has never had an ear infection (never vaccinated)

>

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[Guest guest]

I have had a bit of experience with ear infections, my own and my

children's. I agree that dairy foods can cause problems, both directly and

through your breastmilk. You might want to look at your diet if you are

still nursing.

Garlic Ear Oils are available at Health food markets. Often they a mixtures

of many herbs. I recommend the ones with white willow bark added as they

tend to kill the pain and the infection. My daughter's only round of

antibiotics was due to an ear infection. After 10 miserable days of pouring

all that pink goo down her, the infection did indeed return. It was then

that I put a few drops of Garlic oil into the affected ear (it can help to

have someone else to administer the drops while you nurse her). She has

been infection-free for years now.

My 3 month old just had a bout with his ears. We hadn't taken him to a

doctor but " just knew " it was another ear infection. One application of the

oil with white willow bark and he fell right to sleep. I dosed him one or

two more times but he hasn't had another bout yet (6mo. now).

Best of luck with your children.

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Love and Blessings,

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experience "

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> One of the recent posts reminded me of something I wanted to ask.... my son

> (now 3 1/2) had a lot of ear infections early on and now my daughter has had

> two at the ripe old age of 6 months. Now I know that these might be at least

> in part due to the vaccinations they received. BUT... they are very painful

> and the antibiotics given to them cure them right away. If I stop

> vaccinations and therefore possibly limit my access to a " regular "

> pediatrician, how do I fight ear infections? Hopefully they will stop

> altogether eventually, but until then? Have any of your unvaccinated kids

> had ear infections? If so, how did you treat them?

>

> Thanks!!!!

> Dianna (learning so much!)

>

>

[Guest guest]

THANKS to everyone for the great tips on ear infections. I am going to

get this stuff, so that I am ready if my kids should come down with a

ear infection. I am thrilled that I wont have to resort to antibiotics!

[Guest guest]

One common cause for ear infections that I've heard of is cow's milk. Over

and over I've heard that if you eliminate cow's milk from a child's diet,

their ear infections will go away. Just an idea!

Bekki Bradshaw

http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/Garden/2957

ICQ# 14128223

Re: Ear infection question in relation to vaccines

> From: langevin <sclangevin@...>

>

> Barbara --

>

> Actually, although I would think that fewer vaccines lead to fewer ear

> infections, there is always an exception to the situation -- my son! LOL

> He has not had a single shot, but has had four ear infections in less than

> 10 months.

>

> I'd love to hear any information that someone might have, though,

regarding

> ear health and fewer, if any, vaccines!

>

> --Connie

[Guest guest]

I'll have to look for that book! But his cycle is worse... ear infection,

antibiotic, YEAST INFECTION, EI, AB, YI! YICK!!! Thanks, I'll look for

it... is it on Amazon?

Shalia

>From: Lovingjake@...

>Reply-Vaccinationsonelist

>Vaccinationsonelist

>Subject: Re: ear infections

>Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:00:19 EDT

>

>From: Lovingjake@...

>

>In a message dated 7/20/99 7:31:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

>rands68@... writes:

>

> > Not necessarily true, either... The only vaccine Tyler received was Hep

>B

>at

> > birth, he was exclusively BF'd for the first 5 months, and within that

>5

> > months had 4 ear infections!!!! I think it is genetic. My DH used to

>get

> > them constantly as a kid and needed tubes, and my sister did also. I'm

> > casting votes with genes here. (He's 14 months old now and has NEVER

>had

>an

> >

> > ear infection free month!)

> >

> > Shalia

> >

> >

>Dear Shalia and everyone else dealing with the never ending ear infection,

> May I suggest the book " healing childhood ear infections' by Dr.

>Schmidt.It could lend you some insight into getting off the cycle of ear

>infection-antibiotic-ear infection-etc.etc.

>

>Michele

>

>---------------------------

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/20/99 7:31:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

rands68@... writes:

> Not necessarily true, either... The only vaccine Tyler received was Hep B

at

> birth, he was exclusively BF'd for the first 5 months, and within that 5

> months had 4 ear infections!!!! I think it is genetic. My DH used to get

> them constantly as a kid and needed tubes, and my sister did also. I'm

> casting votes with genes here. (He's 14 months old now and has NEVER had

an

>

> ear infection free month!)

>

> Shalia

>

>

Dear Shalia and everyone else dealing with the never ending ear infection,

May I suggest the book " healing childhood ear infections' by Dr.

Schmidt.It could lend you some insight into getting off the cycle of ear

infection-antibiotic-ear infection-etc.etc.

Michele

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/21/99 12:39:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

rands68@... writes:

> 'll have to look for that book! But his cycle is worse... ear infection,

> antibiotic, YEAST INFECTION, EI, AB, YI! YICK!!! Thanks, I'll look for

> it... is it on Amazon?

>

> Shalia

>

Shalia,I originally looked for the book at Amazon but they said they would

have to search for it.So I ordered it from The Urban Homemaker instead.

www.urbanhomemaker.com Also, " No more Amoxicillin " by Ann Block might be

of interest to you .

Michele

[Guest guest]

Yeah, except amoxicilin really never works. They put him on Augmentin most

often. But thanks for the URL... now all I need is money to buy it!!!

Shalia

>From: Lovingjake@...

>Reply-Vaccinationsonelist

>Vaccinationsonelist

>Subject: Re: ear infections

>Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:50:10 EDT

>

>From: Lovingjake@...

>

>In a message dated 7/21/99 12:39:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

>rands68@... writes:

>

> > 'll have to look for that book! But his cycle is worse... ear

>infection,

> > antibiotic, YEAST INFECTION, EI, AB, YI! YICK!!! Thanks, I'll look

>for

> > it... is it on Amazon?

> >

> > Shalia

> >

>Shalia,I originally looked for the book at Amazon but they said they would

>have to search for it.So I ordered it from The Urban Homemaker instead.

>www.urbanhomemaker.com Also, " No more Amoxicillin " by Ann Block might

>be

>of interest to you .

>

>Michele

>

>---------------------------

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/21/99 10:18:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

deathinsurance@... writes:

> saw your post about augmentin. I buy all my antibiotics

> at the feed store for about $8 per bottle and no doctors

> visits. Try it!

>

The best course would be to not even use the antibiotics in the first

place.They often cause more problems than they solve.

In April,my 4 year old autistic son had an ear infection(actually both

ears).Against our gut feeling,we did the amoxicillin thing.He reacted with

hives and screaming.We switched antibiotics.He ended up with yeast

overgrowth.We ended up giving him an antifungal.That resulted in die-off and

a very miserable child.All this took place over 3 months!3 months of misery

for taking the antibiotic!We WILL use natural methods of treating it if it

happens again!

Michele

[Guest guest]

Shalia:

I saw your post about augmentin. I buy all my antibiotics

at the feed store for about $8 per bottle and no doctors

visits. Try it!

C Casey

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[Guest guest]

How do you figure out the right dose?

> I saw your post about augmentin. I buy all my antibiotics

> at the feed store for about $8 per bottle and no doctors

> visits. Try it!

>

> C Casey

Bekki Bradshaw

http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/Garden/2957

ICQ# 14128223

[Guest guest]

<<I saw your post about augmentin. I buy all my antibiotics at the feed

store for about $8 per bottle and no doctors visits. Try it!>>

I assume these antibiotics are being sold for animal use - is it the exact

same stuff as for humans? How do you know how much to give? I buy our dog

food at the feed store and never thought to look for antibiotics!!! I'll

have to check it out!

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[Guest guest]

Kim,

My daughter is 3 yrs old with pauci JRA. I have had trouble with

ear infections with both my son and daughter (my son does not have JRA) . The

only reason both kids had frequent ear infections is a hereditary factor. Ear

infections run in both my husbands and my families. My son had three sets of

tubes in his ears and only 1 set. has some developmental delays

I believe were caused by the frequent infections, and seems fine.

Teri

[Guest guest]

Kim,

I think you are probably just seeing ear infections at the same time as

JRA. The two are generally not related. Does your daughter have

allergies? When my now 13 year old son---who does not have JRA--- was

just shy of 3, we found that he was allergic to soy, beef,and bananas.

At the peds suggestion, we removed those items from his diet. Within a

few weeks he stopped getting ear infections. Might be worth exploring if

ear infections continue to be a problem.

Liz

> " Kim, or Breanna Wolfe " wrote:

>

> I have a question to ask anyone that can help me....

>

> My daughter, 2 1/2, has pau jra - was diagnosed in Feb 2000 - Since

> she has been diagnosed, she has has 3 ear infections. I think she has

> another one now - waiting till it has been a week to take her to her

> ped. dr.

>

>

> Has anyone else had a problem with ear infections? Is this something

> that could be caused by the jra? Or is it just happening at the same

> time?

>

> Thanks for the help ....Kim Wolfe

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[Guest guest]

Thank you for your information. I am going to be talking to both her ped & rheuny dr about this.

Re: Ear Infections

Kim, My daughter is 3 yrs old with pauci JRA. I have had trouble with ear infections with both my son and daughter (my son does not have JRA) . The only reason both kids had frequent ear infections is a hereditary factor. Ear infections run in both my husbands and my families. My son had three sets of tubes in his ears and only 1 set. has some developmental delays I believe were caused by the frequent infections, and seems fine. Teri For links to websites with JRA info visit: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Village/8414/Links.html

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the info. Breanna may have some allergies..All started when the jra did. I am going to be talking to her ped & rheumy dr.

Re: Ear Infections

Kim,I think you are probably just seeing ear infections at the same time asJRA. The two are generally not related. Does your daughter haveallergies? When my now 13 year old son---who does not have JRA--- wasjust shy of 3, we found that he was allergic to soy, beef,and bananas.At the peds suggestion, we removed those items from his diet. Within afew weeks he stopped getting ear infections. Might be worth exploring ifear infections continue to be a problem.Liz> "Kim, or Breanna Wolfe" wrote:> > I have a question to ask anyone that can help me....> > My daughter, 2 1/2, has pau jra - was diagnosed in Feb 2000 - Since> she has been diagnosed, she has has 3 ear infections. I think she has> another one now - waiting till it has been a week to take her to her> ped. dr.> > > Has anyone else had a problem with ear infections? Is this something> that could be caused by the jra? Or is it just happening at the same> time?> > Thanks for the help ....Kim Wolfe> ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> For links to websites with JRA info visit:> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Village/8414/Links.htmlFor links to websites with JRA info visit: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Village/8414/Links.html

[Guest guest]

I don't have anything bad to say about chiro's (I've personally never been to

one) but I doubt I'd ever take my kids to see one. The philosophy somewhat

conflicts with MFR therapy, which I have found to be

effective.

..02 more cents

S.

wrote:

> Im likely going to stir up a hornets nest, but here we go.......I have a

14month old, unvaccinated, breastfed baby. He has never been to a chiropractor

and likely wont ever go. He has never had an ear

> infection. I dont like chiro's.....a family member was injured by one. I

take all my business to a physiotherapist. There you go...my 2 cents.

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[Guest guest]

I too have had family members injured by a traditional chiropractor.

Luckily, I came across one that only does the Pierce method (no twisting of

the neck or popping of the back bones etc. and requires much more training

than normal) and I feel very comfortable with him, but I will never see a

traditional type again. I also have my 2 1/2 year old adjusted and I have

since he was hours old.

Diane

Re: ear infections

>I don't have anything bad to say about chiro's (I've personally never been

to one) but I doubt I'd ever take my kids to see one. The philosophy

somewhat conflicts with MFR therapy, which I have found to be

>effective.

>.02 more cents

>S.

>

> wrote:

>

>> Im likely going to stir up a hornets nest, but here we go.......I have a

14month old, unvaccinated, breastfed baby. He has never been to a

chiropractor and likely wont ever go. He has never had an ear

>> infection. I dont like chiro's.....a family member was injured by one.

I take all my business to a physiotherapist. There you go...my 2 cents.

>>

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What is MFR therapy?

Sindeawww.hurphotography.com

I don't have anything bad to say about chiro's (I've personally never been to one) but I doubt I'd ever take my kids to see one. The philosophy somewhat conflicts with MFR therapy, which I have found to beeffective..02 more centsS. wrote:> Im likely going to stir up a hornets nest, but here we go.......I have a 14month old, unvaccinated, breastfed baby. He has never been to a chiropractor and likely wont ever go. He has never had an ear> infection. I dont like chiro's.....a family member was injured by one. I take all my business to a physiotherapist. There you go...my 2 cents.>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------> Remember four years of good friends, bad clothes, explosive chemistry> experiments.> 1/5532/10/_/489317/_/963081289/> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Myofascial Release. It focuses on connective tissue (fascia) and muscles

- which keep the skeletal system in place.

S.

sindea wrote:

What

is MFR therapy?Sindea

www.hurphotography.com

I

don't have anything bad to say about chiro's (I've personally never been

to one) but I doubt I'd ever take my kids to see one. The philosophy somewhat

conflicts with MFR therapy, which I have found to be

effective.

..02 more cents

S.

wrote:

> Im likely going to stir up a hornets nest, but here we go.......I

have a 14month old, unvaccinated, breastfed baby. He has never been

to a chiropractor and likely wont ever go. He has never had

an ear

> infection. I dont like chiro's.....a family member was

injured by one. I take all my business to a physiotherapist.

There you go...my 2 cents.

>

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/22/00 5:13:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Vaccinationsegroups writes:

<< on the similar topic of how many kids with no vaccines are autistic?

i'd like to ask the same question about how many kids who are

breastfed and are not vaccinated actually get ear infections? my doc

says he doesn't see them. he sees breastfed vaccinated kids with ear

infections, and kids who are not breastfed and are vaccinated getting

ear infections, but not the kids on mother's milk and no shots.

>>

My youngest three kids have never had an ear infection. They were all

breastfed, but only the youngest was not vaccinated.

Kim Sherwood

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elaine

this had happened to alec twice. both times, what finally worked was a

trip to the ENT. the ENT drained out the fluid in his ear- with what seemed

to be almost like a little vaccuum. he then put alec on antibiotics and

floxin ear drops. we had to keep alec out of the pool at the beginning of

this summer because of this. good luck,

lori- mom to danielle (12) and alec (8DS)

[Guest guest]

At 03:20 PM 10/23/2000 -1000, & Elaine Bonorato wrote:

> has had a constant ear infection for a couple of months now. He has

>PE tubes and his left ear is draining this lovely green mucous. He has had

>4 doctor visits with his family practitioner and one with the ENT. We can't

>get rid of this. He has been on Sulfa (useless) and the med that usually

>works (Zithromax tabs). I have been very diligent about giving him the

>medication. He is missing a lot of school going to the doctor. This must

>be a really resisitant strain. He has not been swimming but once since all

>this began and in Hawaii that is difficult to achieve. Anyone have any

>ideas?? Poor kid has earaches too.

Ask your pedi about ear drops for middle ear infections that are draining.

Len

[Guest guest]

.. << He is missing a lot of school going to the doctor. This must

be a really resistant strain. He has not been swimming but once since

all

this began and in Hawaii that is difficult to achieve. Anyone have any

ideas?? Poor kid has earaches too.

Elaine>>

Poor Mom also Elaine,

I know I agonize over things way more than some things bother Ted.

I also get scared thinking about resistant strains of bacteria. In my

fathers

childhood they had no antibiotics. Both of his only siblings died from

this. I hope will be well soon. I bet he misses swimming. Ted

had

tubes put in last month but only for fluid. I don't have much advice

except

get a stronger antibiotic and our doctor always gives us ear drops when

Ted's ear is draining with tubes. Good luck.

Gail