driving

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Ok Group

lolololol can say she drove the car lolol

sunday i took her over to the old mall a big parking lot where theres NO

body in there and i had her fix the seat and click the seat belt lolol and

i did the same

told her to fix the mirrors ok ready to go then she said mom which is the

brakes and which is the gas lololol OK now i was nervous lolol i told her

not to worry about the gas just remember the BRAKE left foot brake lolol so

i counted the gears as she went to drive 1 2 3 coool its in drive lolol i

looked at her eyes and she was smiling and excited i said ok let your foot

off the brake HERE we go

slow my style lolol

i sat where i could grab the steering in case

we went in a circle 2 times then she decided ok now lets check the gas

lolol glad i used the bathroom before we left the house lolol

she gave it alittle gas she was doing great until she wanted to get faster

i screamed for her to stop and she did lolol my head hit the mirror and

she said ooppss sorry but you said stop lololololol

i got mad and said girl 1 more time like that and you can forget this deal

lolol

ok she cooled it

we did the circle several more times then i said ok thats enough for today

lololol in a way it was so fun but nerve racking also

as i told her she is NOT allowed to try that unless I was with her

she was so excited she could not wait to get home and tell her friend and her

dad

and brother lololol

NO radio on either and i did explain to her about the situation on steering

and the strength it takes to drive a car

if the car ever went dead it would be HARD

i did notice she will only be able to drive power steering and power brakes

and automatic BUT she can drive lololol

this car has power seats which will send that seat forward for someone 4 ft

tall and will lift the person UP higher also

ok i am rambling on here i just wanted to let yall know she did it lolol

and next month she will be waiting in line for the learners

you are right a girl needs the drivers lic and a banking acct

i will be opening one up for her at 16 lololol

its so neat to enjoy this with her

now i have to get the nerves ready for when she wants to drive on the MAIN

roads

lololol

here the kids can get a learners at 15 but only can drive with 3 relatives

in the car thats the limit no night time driving no radio no cell phone

a parent has to be in the car and if the passengers are not related they

cant ride if the kid drives

AND the kid has to have good attendance

at 16 they can take the road test BUT the parent has to sign a paper the kid

has 40 hours of road driving or been to a driving school

lololol harder to get the freedom of driving

i think its a good idea and they learn that a car is like a loaded gun and

can kill

Robbin

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Hi,

I definitely agree. Driving helps so much to foster independence. My mother used to always say that two things a woman needs are: her own bank account and her drivers license. Around here, we don't have public transportation. No busses or subways, so you still need a car to get around. One of 's concerns was whether or not he'd ever grow tall enough to be able to drive safely when he was old enough. He's four foot two now. They've also recently made the age restrictions higher, so by the time he's ready his height may not be such a big concern anymore. He's already sat in the driver's side, adjusted the seat forward, and with a couple inches underneath him ... he can reach the pedals and see over the hood. Stretching : )

Aloha,

Georgina

When I was 16 driving never crossed my mind because I did not think I would be able to but much to my surprise by age 17 I had the itch to drive. I tried it, I could it! and I got my license immediately. As a 19 year veteran of driving you can take alot from me but geez dont take my car!!! LOL Just ask Tree.... In FACES we have 2 ladies whom also thought driving was not in the list of can-do's but since meeting FACES have gotten their licenses and they were each in their 30's! Both agree they should have tried much earlier. My recommendation is let Tabitha be the judge and maybe offer a bit of encouragement and when she is ready she will go for it!!!! Be well and be happy...... Donna Fox

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Rusty

good idea lololol

Robbin

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Robin, next time, CRASH HELMET!!

Rusty

On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 22:28:19 EST Robbin40@... writes:

Ok Grouplolololol can say she drove the car lololsunday i took her over to the old mall a big parking lot where theres NO body in there and i had her fix the seat and click the seat belt lolol and i did the same told her to fix the mirrors ok ready to go then she said mom which is the brakes and which is the gas lololol OK now i was nervous lolol i told her not to worry about the gas just remember the BRAKE left foot brake lolol so i counted the gears as she went to drive 1 2 3 coool its in drive lolol i looked at her eyes and she was smiling and excited i said ok let your foot off the brake HERE we go slow my style lolol i sat where i could grab the steering in case we went in a circle 2 times then she decided ok now lets check the gas lolol glad i used the bathroom before we left the house lolol she gave it alittle gas she was doing great until she wanted to get faster i screamed for her to stop and she did lolol my head hit the mirror and she said ooppss sorry but you said stop lololololol i got mad and said girl 1 more time like that and you can forget this deal lolol ok she cooled it we did the circle several more times then i said ok thats enough for today lololol in a way it was so fun but nerve racking also as i told her she is NOT allowed to try that unless I was with her she was so excited she could not wait to get home and tell her friend and her dad and brother lololol NO radio on either and i did explain to her about the situation on steering and the strength it takes to drive a car if the car ever went dead it would be HARD i did notice she will only be able to drive power steering and power brakes and automatic BUT she can drive lololol this car has power seats which will send that seat forward for someone 4 ft tall and will lift the person UP higher also ok i am rambling on here i just wanted to let yall know she did it lolol and next month she will be waiting in line for the learners you are right a girl needs the drivers lic and a banking acct i will be opening one up for her at 16 lololol its so neat to enjoy this with her :)now i have to get the nerves ready for when she wants to drive on the MAIN roads lololol here the kids can get a learners at 15 but only can drive with 3 relatives in the car thats the limit no night time driving no radio no cell phone a parent has to be in the car and if the passengers are not related they cant ride if the kid drives AND the kid has to have good attendance at 16 they can take the road test BUT the parent has to sign a paper the kid has 40 hours of road driving or been to a driving school lololol harder to get the freedom of driving i think its a good idea and they learn that a car is like a loaded gun and can killRobbin

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That is terrific..you have more nerves than I..lol!

karen

From: Robbin40@...

Reply-

Subject: Re: Driving

Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 22:28:19 EST

Ok Group

lolololol can say she drove the car lolol

sunday i took her over to the old mall a big parking lot where theres NO

body in there and i had her fix the seat and click the seat belt lolol and

i did the same

told her to fix the mirrors ok ready to go then she said mom which is the

brakes and which is the gas lololol OK now i was nervous lolol i told her

not to worry about the gas just remember the BRAKE left foot brake lolol

so

i counted the gears as she went to drive 1 2 3 coool its in drive lolol i

looked at her eyes and she was smiling and excited i said ok let your foot

off the brake HERE we go

slow my style lolol

i sat where i could grab the steering in case

we went in a circle 2 times then she decided ok now lets check the gas

lolol glad i used the bathroom before we left the house lolol

she gave it alittle gas she was doing great until she wanted to get faster

i screamed for her to stop and she did lolol my head hit the mirror and

she said ooppss sorry but you said stop lololololol

i got mad and said girl 1 more time like that and you can forget this deal

lolol

ok she cooled it

we did the circle several more times then i said ok thats enough for today

lololol in a way it was so fun but nerve racking also

as i told her she is NOT allowed to try that unless I was with her

she was so excited she could not wait to get home and tell her friend and

her

dad

and brother lololol

NO radio on either and i did explain to her about the situation on steering

and the strength it takes to drive a car

if the car ever went dead it would be HARD

i did notice she will only be able to drive power steering and power brakes

and automatic BUT she can drive lololol

this car has power seats which will send that seat forward for someone 4 ft

tall and will lift the person UP higher also

ok i am rambling on here i just wanted to let yall know she did it lolol

and next month she will be waiting in line for the learners

you are right a girl needs the drivers lic and a banking acct

i will be opening one up for her at 16 lololol

its so neat to enjoy this with her

now i have to get the nerves ready for when she wants to drive on the MAIN

roads

lololol

here the kids can get a learners at 15 but only can drive with 3 relatives

in the car thats the limit no night time driving no radio no cell phone

a parent has to be in the car and if the passengers are not related they

cant ride if the kid drives

AND the kid has to have good attendance

at 16 they can take the road test BUT the parent has to sign a paper the

kid

has 40 hours of road driving or been to a driving school

lololol harder to get the freedom of driving

i think its a good idea and they learn that a car is like a loaded gun and

can kill

Robbin

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Hi Coleen,

Boy, do I know what you mean! With my memory problems, I was afraid to put the

car in neutral at a long light...afraid I would get " frazzled " and stall it out

when the light changed (if someone honked if I didn't react soon enough), etc.

And, keeping the clutch in was really taxing. Plus, it was a sporty Grand Am,

with low-slung seats, so it wasn't real comfortable. Keeping " all fours " up in

the air all the time wasn't too cool. We have a lot of traffic up here in the

Dallas/Ft. Worth area, so about all I could handle was a 15-minute drive at

low-traffic hours. Scheduled all appointments around the traffic flow.

Your description of your hills reminds me of my younger days in Los ANgeles. I

had a 36-horsepower VolksWagon beetle...and drove a car pool of 4 other girls to

work. Real steep hills in downtown L.A. Jam-packed traffic in rush hour, and

you're looking straight up. Cars would cram right up behind you at the lights. I

was SO afraid of rolling backwards and hitting the car behind me...had to be

REAL quick on the transition from brake to gas and let out the clutch REAL fast

and gun it to get all that weight up the steep hill!! Those were the days.

I drove a lot, too. Had a '50 Chevy convertible as my first car at 16. Drove to

Phoenix every weekend from Los Angeles to visit my older sister. What a

blast...crusing over the desert at night, watching the sunrise as I was driving!

We took all those capabilities for granted, didn't we? So simple to do...and now

they are beyond us! I really wish would trade in his truck...it's a stick

shift, and driving for him is getting more difficult. I traded cars with our

daughter, Amy Rose, bless her heart, or I would really be in a pickle now. Never

knew it could make such a difference.

How's your foot doing now? Better, I hope.

Love ya, Rose

From: Coleen <granscot@...>

Subject: Driving

Rose,

I, too, had to switch from standard and shifting to

automatic. It wasn't

the clutch for me but the brake instead. Where I live there

isn't high

traffic, in fact biggest problems driving here is hitting a

buzzard or a

deer but one of the little towns I go to is hilly in spots,

twice I was

waiting to get onto the highway, being parked on a downhill

and it took

both of my hands/arms plus the bad foot to hold the brake

or it would

have shot me out onto passing highway traffic. Scared me

enough after

the second time to trade a pickup for an automatic car with

electric

everything. I, too, could not believe how suddenly the

driving did not

absolutely kill me when I got to where I was going. I think

all the

moving to push in the clutch, although to me it was like

breathing as I

don't even remember doing it, moving to move the shifter,

power steering

wasn't as easy, all added together it was like working out

and left me

almost unable to get out and do anything once I got there.

I still do

not drive in high traffic, I am not stupid, I have no idea

how my brain

co-ordinating with the legs might or might not work when I

don't know

where I am going at a fast speed. I am someone who two

years ago made

yearly trips of 1050 miles, drove straight thru for 17 - 21

hrs

straight, stopping only for gas. Now should I stay in that

sitting

position for 20 min, its all I can do to be able to walk

but at least I

am not completely exhausted when I get there-just have to

unstiff the

body and get it moving. I even noticed when my foot was

broken and

couldn't drive that when I resumed driving I had lost a bit

so now make

sure I drive at least twice a week.

Coleen

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Hang in there dragonrider...you can do it! My prayers

are with you...I only hope I do as well.

Love in His Light

Sandy

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Hang in there dragonrider...you can do it! My prayers

are with you...I only hope I do as well.

Love in His Light

Sandy

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In a message dated 1/11/03 2:02:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, AriMm5@...

writes:

> I need to know what you did if the seat

> of the car you are learning in does not raise up high enough. We don't

> have

> a problem with it coming forward far enough, only with height.

>

>

Trudy,

How about if Caleb puts a pillow underneath him while driving to raise him up

more? I drive with my seat as far as it can reach the steering wheel and

have a pillow in back of me for support. I'm looking into getting my seat

repadded which helps in giving more support and height. The car that Caleb

would be driving is the seat pretty new or does it need to be repadded?

Helen

Helen

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Like Helen said...some pillows...

also there are a few other ideas....My father makes his seat out of

wood and puts some foam on the top and wraps it in cloth.

I use a boat seat I got at WalMart...this idea was from Casey

Hubbelbank. (pardon the spelling...I'm not awake)

I added a couple of couch pillows at first...then later on I tried

those pillows that people get for their kitchen chairs and tie them.

Which works great for me. Also I use one for when I go out to eat.

The key, is to try different things...drive around about a week

before you say you dont like it..and make adjustments...I've tried a

few different things...plus, remember to adjust the ENTIRE seat as

well...put the seat back or forward

I hope these help!

a

> I have a question for all those who have teenagers (with dwarfism)

who have

> learned to drive and for the adults as well. Any information is

appreciated.

>

> My son has achondroplasia. He will be learning to drive. We have

gotten the

> pedal extensions (thanks Marcia!). I need to know what you did if

the seat

> of the car you are learning in does not raise up high enough. We

don't have

> a problem with it coming forward far enough, only with height.

>

> Any ideas and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

>

> Trudy (mom to Caleb 15, achondroplasia)

>

>

>

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Trudy,

I use foam. It's a great option because you can cut it to fit the proper size

for the seats and it can be glued together if more heighth is needed. Plus,

it's cheap and it retains its shape, where as the stuffing in pillows has a

tendency to shift. My mom also made covers for the pieces we cut for my seats,

so they're easily washable.

Best of luck in finding something that works for Caleb .

~Hillary

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This depends on the doctor, the physical therapist, and your own individual recovery, I think. I have seen people saying that they could drive 3 weeks later and some that could not do it until 3 months later.

I had TKRs done on both knees simultaneously and was allowed to drive at about 5.5 weeks post-TKR.

BE SURE that you wait until the doc says it is okay and be sure that it is written into your medical record, because otherwise, you could be in deep trouble. if you were involved in a car accident and the other party wanted to show that it was mostly or totally all your fault, rather than his, he might be able to hit you with big liability if he could prove that you were driving against doctor's orders. So be sure to ask specifically that your doc put it into your record, as soon as you are at that point.

Hope this helps.

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At 07:53 PM 7/13/03 -0400, you wrote:

>This depends on the doctor, the physical therapist, and your own

>individual recovery, I think. I have seen people saying that they could

>drive 3 weeks later and some that could not do it until 3 months later.

> I had TKRs done on both knees simultaneously and was allowed to drive at

> about 5.5 weeks post-TKR.

> BE SURE that you wait until the doc says it is okay and be sure that it

> is written into your medical record, because otherwise, you could be in

> deep trouble. if you were involved in a car accident and the other party

> wanted to show that it was mostly or totally all your fault, rather than

> his, he might be able to hit you with big liability if he could prove

> that you were driving against doctor's orders. So be sure to ask

> specifically that your doc put it into your record, as soon as you are at

> that point.

I am going to push the issue then. My wife starts back to school

(teaching) three weeks after I have the surgery. We live in a semi rural

area a long ways from town so I have to be able to drive. Besides I run my

own custom woodworking business and every day I am down is a day of no income.

[Guest guest]

I drove five weeks after RTHR and that was one week sooner than the

OS specified. I didn't ask permission; I just did it.

After my LTHR, I drove at four weeks (I asked permission that time).

Key to driving is whether you are off any pain meds that might impair

your judgment. Also the style of vehicle you drive and whether you

can safely get in and out and the type of transmission. Obviously

with automatic, one can drive with a LTHR sooner than RTHR. It is

also wise to get your doctor's OK since if you were in an accident

and it was discovered that you had been advised not to drive, there

could be an insurance/liability issue. In other words, don't do what

I did with my RTHR and ignore what the Dr told me!

[Guest guest]

I had a THR April 14,2003. My doctor told me between 6-8 weeks

depending on me. At my 4 week check up he said to soon at least 6

weeks. So at 6 weeks I started driving a little. At 8 weeks he said

ok. Physcal Therapy told me to have the Dr. write it was ok to drive

in my file - which I did. They had some patients that their insurance

companies did not want to pay because they thought it was to soon to

drive. Just a thought.

Donna

> How soon after TKR are people driving? Mine is less than three

weeks away

> and it is a concern of mine.

[Guest guest]

Which leg? left or right? I had some occupational therapist tell me

there is a local automatic 3 month driving restriction for 3 months

with RTHR (I'm driving after 4 weeks)

> > How soon after TKR are people driving? Mine is less than three

> weeks away

> > and it is a concern of mine.

[Guest guest]

I drove at 3 weeks with the surgeon's approval with a right THR. He said it had to be in an SUV - no cars below they are too low.

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

Though I am a bit younger than many of you (56), I did not feel confortable driving for about 2 months after surgery. It was my right hip, so I was very cautious about having to step on brakes very quickly. My Dr. is very conservative and wants me on some precautions for 1 year. However I do not even mind now. It is 6 months and I can walk fine with no pain and go and do most of my normal activities. This is a very tough surgery on the body and everyone heals a little different, but you will not regret it in the end.

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-Katrini First of all I have never ever driven. But is all depends

on the state you live in. Like pa is if you had a license before it

is six months. If you never have driven it is a year. My sister and

a friend are going through that right now. I also have info on that

for each state. You will have to check with the transportation

department and your doctor has to agree.

Good luck

-- In , " katrini24 " <katrini24@y...>

wrote:

> Hi My name is Katrina!!! I was wondering for anyone who has not

been

> able to drive, because of there epilepsy, How long did you have to

> wait until you could drive? I have been seizure free for a year

know.

>

> katrini24@y...

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Margaret,

Maybe your scar is slightly shorter than mine, but I drove at four

weeks. So there!!

Staninfr

Save your old French francs. They have become more valuable than the

Euro!

> Yesterday (4 weeks and 1 day), I went out to check my car. Got in

and out of driving seat with no difficulty whatsoever. Tried my feet

on the pedals - no problem!

>

> Unfortunately couldn't start it as battery completely flat. (I

suspect it's an electrical circuit-problem somewhere - had the same

thing a few months ago - the air-conditioning was not switching off

and was draining the battery.)

> So now I have to call the service people to get it started, and

then take it down to the auto-electrics place to get the battery

charged and problem fixed.

>

> Can't wait to be mobile on wheels again!

>

> Margaret

> ----- Original Message -----

>

> Fortunately, I was able to drive after four weeks.

>

> Staninfr

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I would have driven at 4 weeks too - but my battery was flat!

Wonder which of us will be earliest on the mountain bike?

Margaret

Re: Driving

Margaret, Maybe your scar is slightly shorter than mine, but I drove at four weeks. So there!!StaninfrSave your old French francs. They have become more valuable than the Euro!

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Hi Margaret,

I would hate to see you or Stan on Mountain bike Just make sure that your Dr says its ok and you really feel like you can do that with out hurting yourself.

Well you have a great day .

SusieMargaret Hayon <margaret@...> wrote:

I would have driven at 4 weeks too - but my battery was flat!

Wonder which of us will be earliest on the mountain bike?

Margaret

Re: Driving

Margaret, Maybe your scar is slightly shorter than mine, but I drove at four weeks. So there!!StaninfrSave your old French francs. They have become more valuable than the Euro!

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In a message dated 8/20/2004 2:27:25 AM Central Standard Time, sagebush2020@... writes:

Maybe your scar is slightly shorter than mine, but I drove at four weeks. So there!!

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Bet she would too if she was close to the doctor who could do the approval. Margaret.....I forgot if its your right or left hip. When I asked about driving after surgery, the Rehab MD said there was no problem with it since it was my left knee. He already knew I didn't take pain meds during the day because they make me almost pass out.

By the way.....did I tell you I had experimentally tried a Tylox during the day and monitored vitals after it? Within an hour, my pulse rate had dropped to 44, and pressure to 67/50. No wonder I feel horrible and puke on the stuff.

y

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In a message dated 8/20/2004 5:59:24 AM Central Standard Time, sagebush2020@... writes:

Is Mount Siani (sp???) near you, or is that just a hospital in N.Y.?

____

Shoot....its also the hospital I worked at in Hartford, CT. We had T shirts that said "Ski Mount Sinai".

y

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Hi Susie,

You are right, I don't seriously see myself riding my bike any time soon. I was just joking with Stan!

My bike is still standing in my shed, covered with dust. I keep it there as a symbol of hope that some day I *might* ride it again.

Best wishes to you!

Margaret

Re: Driving

Margaret, Maybe your scar is slightly shorter than mine, but I drove at four weeks. So there!!StaninfrSave your old French francs. They have become more valuable than the Euro!