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In a message dated 3/19/01 5:12:09 PM, writes:

> I am grateful to calculators because if amanda never really learns math, she

>will definately know how to add and subtract with the help of a calcultor.

>I have stopped beating myself up about math; she does what she can and

>what she can't- oh well!!!!!

My feelings too , we added the calculator around 3rd grade.

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How did you approach the issue of the calculator? When I suggested it at the

first of the year, all of THEM (school people) thought it was not a good

idea. I think it is. This is one of the things I have put off. You know the

saying, Pick and choose your battles. LOL

Sherry (mom to Kendra 11ds, ALyssa 6, 5 autism)

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> In a message dated 3/19/01 5:12:09 PM, writes:

> > I am grateful to calculators because if amanda never really learns math,

she

> >will definately know how to add and subtract with the help of a

calcultor.

> >I have stopped beating myself up about math; she does what she can and

> >what she can't- oh well!!!!!

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> My feelings too , we added the calculator around 3rd grade.

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OK,

2 thoughts on this one:

1st of all, I'm a teacher and our math program encourages the use of

calculators from 1st grade on. It is part of yet another way they can do

math.

2nd of all about my daughter, 10 1/2 with DS, she has always used a

calculator. If " THEY " dont agree to let her use it, tell them you want it

added to the IEP as assistive technology. My daughter is supposed to use her

lap top computer at school- it's in her IEP. Using a calculator is just one

more maniulative that can be used. It's not meant to be a replacement for

doing math, just maybe an alternative. Or just to check. If " THEY' don't

teach her, then you do it and let her use it at home.

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I got my body fat measured a few months ago. It came out to 54% body fat-at

the time I weighed 285, I think. So, that means I have roughly 140lbs of

fat, and 140 lbs of other " stuff " . That would mean I only need to lose 70

lbs or so to reach a healthy BMI, which would put my goal weight at

210...Can that be right? I lift heavy weights 3 times a week, and I'm 5'7 "

and have a large frame (I actually AM big-boned!)...

I just can't see myself being slim at 210... I guess I'll see when I get

there, eh?

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Going with the assumption there is no folic acid in the vitamin

preparation to start with... you would need 180mg or 180 tabs to make

360ml of 0.5mg/ml solution. (360 x 0.5mg=180mg; or 180,1mg tabs)

Please review the tutorials located under the files section to the

left of your screen. There's a lot of info there that will help you

find the answers to your questions.

Sincerely,

Dora

> How many 1mg tablets of folic acid would be added to 360ml of

vitamin

> preparation to increase the folic acid content by 0.5mg/ml?

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Hi Robin-

Percent problems seem to be a challenge for many folks. I think once

a person gets a good understanding of what percent means and are

comfortable with the whole " percent " concept the problems get a lot

easier.

Remember that 'percent' means parts per 100. In this case you want to

know parts per 100ml. You know already know there are 25gm in 1000ml,

so now you just have to figure out how many grams are in 100ml. I

find it easiest to cross multiply...25gm/1000=X/100. X= 2.5gm, so the

answer would be 2.5%.

The second question is very similar to the first...only worded

differently.

You are told to dilute a 100ml of a 10% solution to 500ml. So now

you've got 10 gm (10%=10gm in 100ml)in a total of 500ml. So you still

set it up to solve for X. 10/500=X/100. X=2gm or a 2%solution.

Check out the tutorials under the files section for additonal info on

solving problems similar to this.

Sincerely,

Dora

> I am once again doing the practice test on the PTCB site and am

> stumped by 2 questions.

>

> 1. An IV solution contains 25grams of a medication in 1000ml of

stock

> solution. What is the final percentage?

>

>

> 2. The pharmacy tech has been given 100ml of a 10% acetic acid

> solution. The pharmacist ask the tech to dliute to solution to

500ml

> with sterile water. To label the solution what percentage should

> appear on the label?

>

> I must be brain pausing because I can not figure out how to

calculate

> these answers. Any help anyone can give me would be appreciated.

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Dear Pharmacygirl,

Below is a discussion of your math question. However I suggest taht

you check out the Discussion Tutorial #892 AND the Tutorial on IV

Flow Rate that I posted in the file section. The Tutorial is the

basic foundation for knowing and learning about IV Flow Rate problems

and the Discussion will help you and others who like to see the ratio

proportion problems set up with the values vertically set over each

other. Unfortunately the text on the postings does not allow such

type of text, they get distorted. So please go to the Tutorial

section in the Files. {see menu at left}.

Your specific math questions was:

" A patient is to receive one Liter of D5/0.45NS with 20 mEq of KCL/

IV solution over 24 hours. What is the flow rate? "

First of all one must know that flow rate is usually in terms of ml

per hour, but could be noted as gtts/hr or gtts per minute {drops/hr

or gtts/min}.

Since The IV Flow Rate is then : Volume `over' time or Volume per

time

1 Liter = 1000ml

and

the time is 24 hours

In this case:

1000ml / 24 hours = 41.67 ml/hr, this may also be reported as 41.7

ml/hr

To take this math question one step further:

To convert this to gtts / minute: One MUST know the flow rate

constant for the specific equipment used. Let us use a K(constant)

of 12gtts/ml as the equipment constant.

Then we would multiply the current IVFR by that constant and convert

the hour to minutes.

41.67 ml/hr X 1hr/60min X 12gtts/ml = {41.67x 1 x 12gtts/1 x 60 x 1

after one cancels like units} = 8.33 gtts / minute

I hope that this helps you and I hope that you and others trying to

study ratio/proportions will check out the Discussion #892 Tutorial

and Tutorial on IVFR.

Respectfully,

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Chemistry

Pharm Tech Educator

Founder/Owner of this site.

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Well done Dora! Keep up the great work. And Thank you for your help

on this site.

Here is some more help....

This and all sites distort true ratio/proportion 'vertical' set

up . Therefore I have placed this question on a " Discussion #886

Tutorial- Percentage Math " .

Please check it out. Seeing the math set up in a 'vertical' fashion

may help some of you.

Respectfully,

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Chemistry

Founder/Owner of this site

> > I am once again doing the practice test on the PTCB site and am

> > stumped by 2 questions.

> >

> > 1. An IV solution contains 25grams of a medication in 1000ml of

> stock

> > solution. What is the final percentage?

> >

> >

> > 2. The pharmacy tech has been given 100ml of a 10% acetic acid

> > solution. The pharmacist ask the tech to dliute to solution to

> 500ml

> > with sterile water. To label the solution what percentage should

> > appear on the label?

> >

> > I must be brain pausing because I can not figure out how to

> calculate

> > these answers. Any help anyone can give me would be appreciated.

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Dear Pharmacytechgirl,

IV FLOW Rates can be viewed and studied on my Tutorials.

the Volume/time is an IV Flow rate which can be reportedin

ml/hr or ml/min or ml/second or gtts/hr gtts/min, or gtts/second

Some IV Flow rates can be reported as drug per time or drug/time

such as gram/hr, mg/hr, mg/min, mEq/hr, mEq/min

In this case it is :

1000ml / 24hr = 41.67 ml/hr

which can be also

41.67ml/60 minutes or 0.69 gtts/minute or 0.7 gtts/min

See Tutorial regarding IV Flow Rates with Equipment Constants

Respectfully,

Jeanetta Mastron

> A patient is to receive 1L of D5/0.45 NS with 20 meq of KCL IV

> solution over 24 hours. What is the flow rate?

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Hi Judy-

Welcome to the site! You're not alone-- a lot of folks really get

spooked/distracted/overwhelmed by the whole 'percentage' thing. Just

remember all percent means is 'parts per 100'. The same question was

posted not too long ago. Use the " message # " box and type 887 to see

how to solve this particular problem. I also encourage you to review

the tutorials under the files section. Jeanetta is an awesome teacher

and has a number of examples showing how to solve problems like this--

-the files also allow the problems to be set up in a 'grid' or

formula structure that is easier to read/understand.

Sincerely,

Dora

Group Moderator

-- In @y..., " Judi Winters "

<tiggiesrxtech@y...> wrote:

> an IV solution contains 25g of a medication in 1000ml of stock

> solution. What is the final percentage concentration?

> I have worked this every way but standing on my head and I always

> come up with the same answer, which of course is wrong.Thanks for

any

> help in working the problem so that I can come up with the right

> answer

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Hi Judy-

Remember percentage means 'parts per 100' In this case 5% means there

are 5 grams(or 5000mg) of sodium hypochlorite per 100ml of solution.

What you need is 0.1gram (or 100mg) of sodium hypochlorite per 100ml

solution. So now how do you figure out how many mls of the 5% would

you need to make 1000ml of 0.1% solution???

Here's how I like to set up problems like this:

Tot.vol required/%of soln on hand= X(vol needed)/%desired

OR:

1000ml/5%= X/0.1%

from here just cross multiply and divide to solve for X.

0.1 * 1000= 100

100/5=20

X=20ml

So you would need 20ml of 5% solution and 980ml of sterile water to

get a 0.1% final concentration.

Please check out the tutorials located under the 'Files' section.

Jeanetta has a number of examples for solving percentages that are

sure to help you. If you need additonal assistance you are welcome to

email Jeanetta or me.

Sincerely,

Dora

Group Mod

> what volume of a 5% sodium hypochlorite is required to prepare 1L

of

> 0.1% disinfecting solution

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Dear Judy and others,

Dora has already addressed this problem on post. Study her answer

well.

This is a 'dilution' problem that can be solved by an Allegation I

Tutorial method or the Percent Method that Dora used is outlined in

my Percentage Tutorial.

I suggest that you check out the Tutorial Allegation Method I , it is

the easiest and fastest method. If you still have problems with these

type of calculations feel free to email me privately for private FREE

tutoring OR post on this site.

Respectfully,

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Chem

Founder/Owner of this sie.

> what volume of a 5% sodium hypochlorite is required to prepare 1L

of

> 0.1% disinfecting solution

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Hi there-

Welcome to the group. Please be sure to review the tutorials Jeanetta

included in your welcome email. There are also many other useful

tutorials located under the Files section at the left side of your

screen.

You could use the " Body Surface Area " formula which is as follows:

Childs dose= child's BSA/1.73 x adult dose. In this case it would

be : 0.52/1.73x 15mg= 4.5mg(rounded). With the info you provided you

could also use " 's Rule " : Weight of child in lbs/150 x adult

dose, but this formula is less accurate as it does not take the

childs height (which has an affect on the volume of distribution)

into consideration. Here's where the pharmacist earns their money--

making sure the patient is doses appropriately for the

wt/size/age/disease state.

Are you sure you copied the info on the second problem correctly? you

want a 50mg/ml final conc., but your stock solution is only 40mg/ml.

You can't get a higher concentration that what you started with---

Sincerely,

Dora

> we have been doing practice test for the certification, and I am

> still trying to go over a couple of questions I have and cannot

find

> the answer. When I see them, I want a formula to be able to answer

> the question. Could you help?

> Here is a couple of questions

> 1. A child that weight 26lb with a BSA of 0.52m2 is to receive a

> medication where the average adult dose is 15mg. What is a safe

dose

> for the child?

>

> 2 Prepare 10ml methicillin dilution with a concentration of

50mg/ml

> from a stok solution of 20mg/0.5ml. How much stock solution and

> diluent is necessary to prepare this dilutioon?

>

> I would appreciate your help thank ou a and hope to get a bit

> more help with math.

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Is there anyone that took the test in Nov that did NOT pass?? It seems like

everyone has passed!! :-)

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Hi there-

Welcome to the group. Please be sure to review the tutorials Jeanetta

included in your welcome email. There are also many other useful

tutorials located under the Files section at the left side of your

screen.

You could use the " Body Surface Area " formula which is as follows:

Childs dose= child's BSA/1.73 x adult dose. In this case it would

be : 0.52/1.73x 15mg= 4.5mg(rounded). With the info you provided you

could also use " 's Rule " : Weight of child in lbs/150 x adult

dose, but this formula is less accurate as it does not take the

childs height (which has an affect on the volume of distribution)

into consideration. Here's where the pharmacist earns their money--

making sure the patient is doses appropriately for the

wt/size/age/disease state.

Are you sure you copied the info on the second problem correctly? you

want a 50mg/ml final conc., but your stock solution is only 40mg/ml.

You can't get a higher concentration that what you started with---

Sincerely,

Dora

> we have been doing practice test for the certification, and I am

> still trying to go over a couple of questions I have and cannot

find

> the answer. When I see them, I want a formula to be able to answer

> the question. Could you help?

> Here is a couple of questions

> 1. A child that weight 26lb with a BSA of 0.52m2 is to receive a

> medication where the average adult dose is 15mg. What is a safe

dose

> for the child?

>

> 2 Prepare 10ml methicillin dilution with a concentration of

50mg/ml

> from a stok solution of 20mg/0.5ml. How much stock solution and

> diluent is necessary to prepare this dilutioon?

>

> I would appreciate your help thank ou a and hope to get a bit

> more help with math.

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Hi Jeanetta,

Jeanetta I wish you could add me to the PASS list, but I have yet to

receive my results still.

I've waited patiently this entire week hoping that I'd get my results,

but nothing yet.

Is there anybody else on here who is still waiting for their results?

Marcelo

Re: Re: math

Is there anyone that took the test in Nov that did NOT pass?? It seems

like everyone has passed!! :-)

Re: math

Hi there-

Welcome to the group. Please be sure to review the tutorials Jeanetta

included in your welcome email. There are also many other useful

tutorials located under the Files section at the left side of your

screen.

You could use the " Body Surface Area " formula which is as follows:

Childs dose= child's BSA/1.73 x adult dose. In this case it would

be : 0.52/1.73x 15mg= 4.5mg(rounded). With the info you provided you

could also use " 's Rule " : Weight of child in lbs/150 x adult

dose, but this formula is less accurate as it does not take the

childs height (which has an affect on the volume of distribution)

into consideration. Here's where the pharmacist earns their money--

making sure the patient is doses appropriately for the

wt/size/age/disease state.

Are you sure you copied the info on the second problem correctly? you

want a 50mg/ml final conc., but your stock solution is only 40mg/ml.

You can't get a higher concentration that what you started with---

Sincerely,

Dora

> we have been doing practice test for the certification, and I am

> still trying to go over a couple of questions I have and cannot

find

> the answer. When I see them, I want a formula to be able to answer

> the question. Could you help?

> Here is a couple of questions

> 1. A child that weight 26lb with a BSA of 0.52m2 is to receive a

> medication where the average adult dose is 15mg. What is a safe

dose

> for the child?

>

> 2 Prepare 10ml methicillin dilution with a concentration of

50mg/ml

> from a stok solution of 20mg/0.5ml. How much stock solution and

> diluent is necessary to prepare this dilutioon?

>

> I would appreciate your help thank ou a and hope to get a bit

> more help with math.

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Hi-

Ah, now that works ;)

This problem is pretty straight forward. You want 10ml of a 50mg/ml

concentration. That's a total of 500mg. Your stock solution is

250mg/0.5ml or 500mg/ml. So you would need 1ml of stock solution and

9ml of diluent for a final volume of 10ml at 50mg/ml.

I like to solve problems like this using the following formula

structure:

Total volume............X..........

_________________=__________________

Conc.of stock.........conc.desired

10ml/250mg=X/50mg

Now just cross multiply and solve for X

50mg*10ml/250=1ml of stock solution. Then QS to 10ml w/ diluent.

The formula structures don't always display properly on the message

board, so I encourage you to go to browse the tutorials located under

the 'Files' option.

Sincerely,

Dora

> Thanks for the help, and sorry about the second question. Here it

is

> again with a missing number added. I would like to be able to know

a

> formulaprepare a 10for when I see it. You guy's are great help

> thanks.

> Prepare a 10ml methicillin dilution with a concentration of 50mg/ml

> from a stock solution of 250/0.5ml. How much stock solution and

> diluent is necessary to prepare this dilution

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Thank you Dora for tackling this one! Usuallu I get to them pretty

quick but with my home computer crashing I couldn't even get to you

to ask you to cover for me. But I never have to worry you are always

there for me and for the site.

Thanks again. When I get a moment I shall add this to the Discussion

Tutorials. If you are up to it we could sure use an index of that

stuff.

Love ya

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT

Founder/Owner

> Hi-

> Ah, now that works ;)

> This problem is pretty straight forward. You want 10ml of a 50mg/ml

> concentration. That's a total of 500mg. Your stock solution is

> 250mg/0.5ml or 500mg/ml. So you would need 1ml of stock solution

and

> 9ml of diluent for a final volume of 10ml at 50mg/ml.

> I like to solve problems like this using the following formula

> structure:

> Total volume............X..........

> _________________=__________________

> Conc.of stock.........conc.desired

>

> 10ml/250mg=X/50mg

> Now just cross multiply and solve for X

> 50mg*10ml/250=1ml of stock solution. Then QS to 10ml w/ diluent.

>

> The formula structures don't always display properly on the message

> board, so I encourage you to go to browse the tutorials located

under

> the 'Files' option.

>

> Sincerely,

> Dora

>

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> Hi all

>

> Please help

>

> If 3.6g of Phenol is mixed with 16.4g of glycerin, what is the

> resulting percentage concentration of Phenol? >>

Calculate the total weight of mixture:

3.6 g + 16.4 g = 20 g

What part of this mixture is phenol?

3.6 g : 20 g = 0.18

What percentage of this mixture is phenol?

0.18 x 100% = 18%

NiKa.

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Dear All,

This answer is correct! Good Job Nika

I just want to show it in the ratio / proportion mehtod:

If 3.6 g plus 16.4 grams of drug are mixed together then the total

weight is 20 grams.

Part of that weight is the Phenol of 3.6 grams. What percentage of

the total mixed drug is Phenol?

........Parts of the Whole

X% = --------------------- X 100

........Total Parts (Whole)

.......3.6grams Phenol

X% = --------------------------------- x 100 = 18%

.......20 grams Total (Whole) Mixture

Just another way to skin a cat!

Respectfully,

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT

> > Hi all

> >

> > Please help

> >

> > If 3.6g of Phenol is mixed with 16.4g of glycerin, what is the

> > resulting percentage concentration of Phenol? >>

>

> Calculate the total weight of mixture:

> 3.6 g + 16.4 g = 20 g

>

> What part of this mixture is phenol?

> 3.6 g : 20 g = 0.18

>

> What percentage of this mixture is phenol?

> 0.18 x 100% = 18%

>

> NiKa.

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Dear PSilby,

Please check out my Math Tutorials folder inside the Tutorial - 1

Folder, you will find this:

Tutorial on VERY,VERY Basic Ratios and Proportions

Learn what a rato is and how to set up a ratio/proportion problem

using every day items.Copyrighted by Jeanetta Mastron July 2002

Hope it helps

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT

> Hi

>

Jeanetta

> I was wondering if you could send me some basic math. I'm having

> trouble understanding it. I would appreciate any

>

help.

> Thank

> you

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has done touch math since kindergarten. He is now in 7th grade and

no longer needs the " dots " and can do math fairly good, not grade level but he

can add, subtract and do money. The touch math company is here in Colorado

Springs so a lot of the teachers in this area are very familiar with it.

mom to 12 and Noah 4 both with Down syndrome

Colo.

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My daughter uses that program and has been very successful with it. If you'd

like to read more about it, the website is www.touchmath.com . Caty can add 3

digit numbers and subtract.

Math

Any one familiar with the touch math program? Brit's teacher thinks that she

will benifit from it. I would like more info.

Hugs

Beth

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Noah has used touchmath since Kindy...he's in 3rd grade now. He seems to

understand it much better than just dealing with the numerals.

Karla in Texas

Math

Any one familiar with the touch math program? Brit's teacher thinks that she

will benifit from it. I would like more info.

Hugs

Beth

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