Re: Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation?

[Guest guest]

Sorry Jody,

I have no wish to be disruptive to this group and there will be no

further mention of chelation from me unless someone contacts me off-

list.

Gladioli

[Guest guest]

Sorry Jody,

I have no wish to be disruptive to this group and there will be no

further mention of chelation from me unless someone contacts me off-

list.

Gladioli

[Guest guest]

Sorry Jody,

I have no wish to be disruptive to this group and there will be no

further mention of chelation from me unless someone contacts me off-

list.

Gladioli

[Guest guest]

You have to remember one important research finding when considering

chelation for a child with autism.

With autism,there is a theory being researched in mouse studies with mice

that a genetic anomaly prevents the liver from making sufficient glutathione

to chelate. This is why 149 infants can get a dose of thimerasol and not

develop autism, but 1 in the 150 does develop autism. In fact, they find

mercury in the hair of infants who DO NOT develop autism, because those who

do do not excrete the mercury in their hair, it stays in their bodies.

http://www.greeneidlab.columbia.edu/press_releases/Strain-dep-thimerosal.pdf

Therefore a " normal " person might be expected to fully recover with an

incredibly supportive, healing diet such as SCD, but it's possible that a

person with the glutathione issue might need additional support. For

instance, we are finding that simply adding glutathione cream to our son's

regimen has been having good results. Whereas for instance in the past,

Motrin (which stresses the liver) would have this affect of making my son

high as a kite, now if we are forced to give him Motrin (fever over 105) we

give him glutathione too and acts works normally on him.

So there is some middleground between not doing chelation but giving extra

support to those who are less able to chelate.

In other words, I am not sure that a person with this genetic issue can

chelate with the support of the diet alone, though the fantastic results for

some seem to show that perhaps it is possible. Still, I am not willing to

subject my son to chelation drugs, because he is so close to being recovered

it is risking too much. SO there is a middle ground--supplements, SCD, and

things like glutathione supplementatoin that simulate and support what WOULD

happen if all systems worked as they should.

_____

From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On

Behalf Of carolfrilegh

Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 5:48 PM

To: pecanbread

Subject: Re: Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation?

>

> Jen,

>

> My impressions from researching for years and a combination of personal

experience

of not only us, but of friends undergoing this therapy has brought me to

these

conclusions.

>

snipped for brevity

This has to be one of the best posts I've read in many months, Gertrude. I

wish Elaine

could be here to see it.

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, celiac

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

You have to remember one important research finding when considering

chelation for a child with autism.

With autism,there is a theory being researched in mouse studies with mice

that a genetic anomaly prevents the liver from making sufficient glutathione

to chelate. This is why 149 infants can get a dose of thimerasol and not

develop autism, but 1 in the 150 does develop autism. In fact, they find

mercury in the hair of infants who DO NOT develop autism, because those who

do do not excrete the mercury in their hair, it stays in their bodies.

http://www.greeneidlab.columbia.edu/press_releases/Strain-dep-thimerosal.pdf

Therefore a " normal " person might be expected to fully recover with an

incredibly supportive, healing diet such as SCD, but it's possible that a

person with the glutathione issue might need additional support. For

instance, we are finding that simply adding glutathione cream to our son's

regimen has been having good results. Whereas for instance in the past,

Motrin (which stresses the liver) would have this affect of making my son

high as a kite, now if we are forced to give him Motrin (fever over 105) we

give him glutathione too and acts works normally on him.

So there is some middleground between not doing chelation but giving extra

support to those who are less able to chelate.

In other words, I am not sure that a person with this genetic issue can

chelate with the support of the diet alone, though the fantastic results for

some seem to show that perhaps it is possible. Still, I am not willing to

subject my son to chelation drugs, because he is so close to being recovered

it is risking too much. SO there is a middle ground--supplements, SCD, and

things like glutathione supplementatoin that simulate and support what WOULD

happen if all systems worked as they should.

_____

From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On

Behalf Of carolfrilegh

Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 5:48 PM

To: pecanbread

Subject: Re: Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation?

>

> Jen,

>

> My impressions from researching for years and a combination of personal

experience

of not only us, but of friends undergoing this therapy has brought me to

these

conclusions.

>

snipped for brevity

This has to be one of the best posts I've read in many months, Gertrude. I

wish Elaine

could be here to see it.

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, celiac

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

You have to remember one important research finding when considering

chelation for a child with autism.

With autism,there is a theory being researched in mouse studies with mice

that a genetic anomaly prevents the liver from making sufficient glutathione

to chelate. This is why 149 infants can get a dose of thimerasol and not

develop autism, but 1 in the 150 does develop autism. In fact, they find

mercury in the hair of infants who DO NOT develop autism, because those who

do do not excrete the mercury in their hair, it stays in their bodies.

http://www.greeneidlab.columbia.edu/press_releases/Strain-dep-thimerosal.pdf

Therefore a " normal " person might be expected to fully recover with an

incredibly supportive, healing diet such as SCD, but it's possible that a

person with the glutathione issue might need additional support. For

instance, we are finding that simply adding glutathione cream to our son's

regimen has been having good results. Whereas for instance in the past,

Motrin (which stresses the liver) would have this affect of making my son

high as a kite, now if we are forced to give him Motrin (fever over 105) we

give him glutathione too and acts works normally on him.

So there is some middleground between not doing chelation but giving extra

support to those who are less able to chelate.

In other words, I am not sure that a person with this genetic issue can

chelate with the support of the diet alone, though the fantastic results for

some seem to show that perhaps it is possible. Still, I am not willing to

subject my son to chelation drugs, because he is so close to being recovered

it is risking too much. SO there is a middle ground--supplements, SCD, and

things like glutathione supplementatoin that simulate and support what WOULD

happen if all systems worked as they should.

_____

From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On

Behalf Of carolfrilegh

Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 5:48 PM

To: pecanbread

Subject: Re: Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation?

>

> Jen,

>

> My impressions from researching for years and a combination of personal

experience

of not only us, but of friends undergoing this therapy has brought me to

these

conclusions.

>

snipped for brevity

This has to be one of the best posts I've read in many months, Gertrude. I

wish Elaine

could be here to see it.

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, celiac

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

Whoops--sorry! Wouldn't have posted this if I'd seen the request not to as

it's offtopic! Understandable! Good night & Good healing.

_____

From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On

Behalf Of Carolyn Weissberg

Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:53 PM

To: pecanbread

Subject: RE: Re: Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation?

You have to remember one important research finding when considering

chelation for a child with autism.

With autism,there is a theory being researched in mouse studies with mice

that a genetic anomaly prevents the liver from making sufficient glutathione

to chelate. This is why 149 infants can get a dose of thimerasol and not

develop autism, but 1 in the 150 does develop autism. In fact, they find

mercury in the hair of infants who DO NOT develop autism, because those who

do do not excrete the mercury in their hair, it stays in their bodies.

http://www.greeneidlab.columbia.edu/press_releases/Strain-dep-thimerosal.pdf

Therefore a " normal " person might be expected to fully recover with an

incredibly supportive, healing diet such as SCD, but it's possible that a

person with the glutathione issue might need additional support. For

instance, we are finding that simply adding glutathione cream to our son's

regimen has been having good results. Whereas for instance in the past,

Motrin (which stresses the liver) would have this affect of making my son

high as a kite, now if we are forced to give him Motrin (fever over 105) we

give him glutathione too and acts works normally on him.

So there is some middleground between not doing chelation but giving extra

support to those who are less able to chelate.

In other words, I am not sure that a person with this genetic issue can

chelate with the support of the diet alone, though the fantastic results for

some seem to show that perhaps it is possible. Still, I am not willing to

subject my son to chelation drugs, because he is so close to being recovered

it is risking too much. SO there is a middle ground--supplements, SCD, and

things like glutathione supplementatoin that simulate and support what WOULD

happen if all systems worked as they should.

_____

From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On

Behalf Of carolfrilegh

Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 5:48 PM

To: pecanbread

Subject: Re: Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation?

>

> Jen,

>

> My impressions from researching for years and a combination of personal

experience

of not only us, but of friends undergoing this therapy has brought me to

these

conclusions.

>

snipped for brevity

This has to be one of the best posts I've read in many months, Gertrude. I

wish Elaine

could be here to see it.

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, celiac

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

Whoops--sorry! Wouldn't have posted this if I'd seen the request not to as

it's offtopic! Understandable! Good night & Good healing.

_____

From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On

Behalf Of Carolyn Weissberg

Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:53 PM

To: pecanbread

Subject: RE: Re: Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation?

You have to remember one important research finding when considering

chelation for a child with autism.

With autism,there is a theory being researched in mouse studies with mice

that a genetic anomaly prevents the liver from making sufficient glutathione

to chelate. This is why 149 infants can get a dose of thimerasol and not

develop autism, but 1 in the 150 does develop autism. In fact, they find

mercury in the hair of infants who DO NOT develop autism, because those who

do do not excrete the mercury in their hair, it stays in their bodies.

http://www.greeneidlab.columbia.edu/press_releases/Strain-dep-thimerosal.pdf

Therefore a " normal " person might be expected to fully recover with an

incredibly supportive, healing diet such as SCD, but it's possible that a

person with the glutathione issue might need additional support. For

instance, we are finding that simply adding glutathione cream to our son's

regimen has been having good results. Whereas for instance in the past,

Motrin (which stresses the liver) would have this affect of making my son

high as a kite, now if we are forced to give him Motrin (fever over 105) we

give him glutathione too and acts works normally on him.

So there is some middleground between not doing chelation but giving extra

support to those who are less able to chelate.

In other words, I am not sure that a person with this genetic issue can

chelate with the support of the diet alone, though the fantastic results for

some seem to show that perhaps it is possible. Still, I am not willing to

subject my son to chelation drugs, because he is so close to being recovered

it is risking too much. SO there is a middle ground--supplements, SCD, and

things like glutathione supplementatoin that simulate and support what WOULD

happen if all systems worked as they should.

_____

From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On

Behalf Of carolfrilegh

Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 5:48 PM

To: pecanbread

Subject: Re: Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation?

>

> Jen,

>

> My impressions from researching for years and a combination of personal

experience

of not only us, but of friends undergoing this therapy has brought me to

these

conclusions.

>

snipped for brevity

This has to be one of the best posts I've read in many months, Gertrude. I

wish Elaine

could be here to see it.

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, celiac

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

>

> Whoops--sorry! Wouldn't have posted this if I'd seen the request not to as

> it's offtopic! Understandable! Good night & Good healing.

>

You sounded like R. Murrow there for a moment. No problem. It's just that

with all

the supplements, techniques, therapies and training avalable in the autism

world, we

would quickly obscure being clear about the diet if we tried to address them all

on this

list.

There are many lists where you can discuss the OT things. The moderators try to

be liberal

as they appreciate how difficult a task you have and people particularly wish to

share

positive reults or ask questions.

Please everyone, trim extraneous material from replies. Drag your cursor over it

and

delete.

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

>

> Whoops--sorry! Wouldn't have posted this if I'd seen the request not to as

> it's offtopic! Understandable! Good night & Good healing.

>

You sounded like R. Murrow there for a moment. No problem. It's just that

with all

the supplements, techniques, therapies and training avalable in the autism

world, we

would quickly obscure being clear about the diet if we tried to address them all

on this

list.

There are many lists where you can discuss the OT things. The moderators try to

be liberal

as they appreciate how difficult a task you have and people particularly wish to

share

positive reults or ask questions.

Please everyone, trim extraneous material from replies. Drag your cursor over it

and

delete.

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

>

> Whoops--sorry! Wouldn't have posted this if I'd seen the request not to as

> it's offtopic! Understandable! Good night & Good healing.

>

You sounded like R. Murrow there for a moment. No problem. It's just that

with all

the supplements, techniques, therapies and training avalable in the autism

world, we

would quickly obscure being clear about the diet if we tried to address them all

on this

list.

There are many lists where you can discuss the OT things. The moderators try to

be liberal

as they appreciate how difficult a task you have and people particularly wish to

share

positive reults or ask questions.

Please everyone, trim extraneous material from replies. Drag your cursor over it

and

delete.

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, celiac