Re: Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation?

[Guest guest]

Out of curiousity . . . does anyone know if SCD can " pull " metals that

have crossed the blood/brain barrier? The chelator Elle is on, dmsa,

is unable to reach the metals in this area. I am hoping you will tell

me that SCD can do it because the one I know that can reach metals

there is ALA (which is a huge problem for yeast, and I would like to

avoid it).

By the way, to keep everyone posted. You can continue to celebrate

with us. Elle is passing bowels on her own with more frequency and

they are formed with good color and no undigested stool. We are

thrilled with her progress and are hoping this pattern continues.

Jeni Lynn

SCD 2 weeks

mom to Elle, 17 mo. (leaky gut, eczema, heavy metal toxicity)

SCD 3 months

[Guest guest]

Out of curiousity . . . does anyone know if SCD can " pull " metals that

have crossed the blood/brain barrier? The chelator Elle is on, dmsa,

is unable to reach the metals in this area. I am hoping you will tell

me that SCD can do it because the one I know that can reach metals

there is ALA (which is a huge problem for yeast, and I would like to

avoid it).

By the way, to keep everyone posted. You can continue to celebrate

with us. Elle is passing bowels on her own with more frequency and

they are formed with good color and no undigested stool. We are

thrilled with her progress and are hoping this pattern continues.

Jeni Lynn

SCD 2 weeks

mom to Elle, 17 mo. (leaky gut, eczema, heavy metal toxicity)

SCD 3 months

[Guest guest]

I personally would not depend on diet alone to provide the heavy metal

excretion that my child needs. Yes, it may be possible that SCD could

support excretion of current exposures, but I highly doubt that it would

chelate the stores of mercury, lead and other metals that are stored in

his tissue and brain.

We have been chelating for a year now. The transdermal(TD) creams seem

to be a nice slow and steady method of chelation, without the issue of

creating gut pathogens.

As far as cost, my son's health insurance actually covers my son's

compounded TD-DMPS, TD-ALA, TD-glutathione and methyl b12 shots. We have

to pay a $40 co-pay.

Becky

mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT)

SCD start day was today!

[Guest guest]

I personally would not depend on diet alone to provide the heavy metal

excretion that my child needs. Yes, it may be possible that SCD could

support excretion of current exposures, but I highly doubt that it would

chelate the stores of mercury, lead and other metals that are stored in

his tissue and brain.

We have been chelating for a year now. The transdermal(TD) creams seem

to be a nice slow and steady method of chelation, without the issue of

creating gut pathogens.

As far as cost, my son's health insurance actually covers my son's

compounded TD-DMPS, TD-ALA, TD-glutathione and methyl b12 shots. We have

to pay a $40 co-pay.

Becky

mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT)

SCD start day was today!

[Guest guest]

I personally would not depend on diet alone to provide the heavy metal

excretion that my child needs. Yes, it may be possible that SCD could

support excretion of current exposures, but I highly doubt that it would

chelate the stores of mercury, lead and other metals that are stored in

his tissue and brain.

We have been chelating for a year now. The transdermal(TD) creams seem

to be a nice slow and steady method of chelation, without the issue of

creating gut pathogens.

As far as cost, my son's health insurance actually covers my son's

compounded TD-DMPS, TD-ALA, TD-glutathione and methyl b12 shots. We have

to pay a $40 co-pay.

Becky

mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT)

SCD start day was today!

[Guest guest]

The chelator Elle is on, dmsa,

> is unable to reach the metals in this area. I am hoping you will tell

> me that SCD can do it because the one I know that can reach metals

> there is ALA (which is a huge problem for yeast, and I would like to

> avoid it).

I said in an earlier post that my son gets a transdermal ALA, so less

likely to cause yeast. I don't know if the TD solution works as well as

the oral, but it is an option.

Becky

mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT)

[Guest guest]

The chelator Elle is on, dmsa,

> is unable to reach the metals in this area. I am hoping you will tell

> me that SCD can do it because the one I know that can reach metals

> there is ALA (which is a huge problem for yeast, and I would like to

> avoid it).

I said in an earlier post that my son gets a transdermal ALA, so less

likely to cause yeast. I don't know if the TD solution works as well as

the oral, but it is an option.

Becky

mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT)

[Guest guest]

The chelator Elle is on, dmsa,

> is unable to reach the metals in this area. I am hoping you will tell

> me that SCD can do it because the one I know that can reach metals

> there is ALA (which is a huge problem for yeast, and I would like to

> avoid it).

I said in an earlier post that my son gets a transdermal ALA, so less

likely to cause yeast. I don't know if the TD solution works as well as

the oral, but it is an option.

Becky

mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT)

[Guest guest]

Of course.

Becky

mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT)

>

> Thanks for your quick response. If it is OK, I may contact you

off-list

> to inquire more about your experience.

>

> Jeni Lynn

> SCD 2 weeks

[Guest guest]

Of course.

Becky

mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT)

>

> Thanks for your quick response. If it is OK, I may contact you

off-list

> to inquire more about your experience.

>

> Jeni Lynn

> SCD 2 weeks

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your quick response. If it is OK, I may contact you off-list to

inquire more about your experience.

Jeni Lynn

SCD 2 weeks

RE: Re: Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation?

The chelator Elle is on, dmsa,

> is unable to reach the metals in this area. I am hoping you will tell

> me that SCD can do it because the one I know that can reach metals

> there is ALA (which is a huge problem for yeast, and I would like to

> avoid it).

I said in an earlier post that my son gets a transdermal ALA, so less

likely to cause yeast. I don't know if the TD solution works as well as

the oral, but it is an option.

Becky

mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT)

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

and

http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your quick response. If it is OK, I may contact you off-list to

inquire more about your experience.

Jeni Lynn

SCD 2 weeks

RE: Re: Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation?

The chelator Elle is on, dmsa,

> is unable to reach the metals in this area. I am hoping you will tell

> me that SCD can do it because the one I know that can reach metals

> there is ALA (which is a huge problem for yeast, and I would like to

> avoid it).

I said in an earlier post that my son gets a transdermal ALA, so less

likely to cause yeast. I don't know if the TD solution works as well as

the oral, but it is an option.

Becky

mom to Noah (6, HFA) and (3, NT)

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

and

http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

[Guest guest]

>

> Jen,

>

> My impressions from researching for years and a combination of personal

experience

of not only us, but of friends undergoing this therapy has brought me to these

conclusions.

>

snipped for brevity

This has to be one of the best posts I've read in many months, Gertrude. I wish

Elaine

could be here to see it.

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

>

> Jen,

>

> My impressions from researching for years and a combination of personal

experience

of not only us, but of friends undergoing this therapy has brought me to these

conclusions.

>

snipped for brevity

This has to be one of the best posts I've read in many months, Gertrude. I wish

Elaine

could be here to see it.

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

>

> Jen,

>

> My impressions from researching for years and a combination of personal

experience

of not only us, but of friends undergoing this therapy has brought me to these

conclusions.

>

snipped for brevity

This has to be one of the best posts I've read in many months, Gertrude. I wish

Elaine

could be here to see it.

Carol F.

SCD 6 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

Since we are on the topic of heavy metal toxicity, what is the MOST accurate way

to

determine if one IS toxic?

V.

[Guest guest]

Since we are on the topic of heavy metal toxicity, what is the MOST accurate way

to

determine if one IS toxic?

V.

[Guest guest]

Since we are on the topic of heavy metal toxicity, what is the MOST accurate way

to

determine if one IS toxic?

V.

[Guest guest]

Dear Summer,

I was very interested in what you wrote. In the pieces below, are you saying

that SCD will cross the blood/brain barrier to pull metals in this area. I just

wanted to make sure that I understand you correctly.

Thanks!

Jeni Lynn

SCD 2 weeks

mom to Elle, 17 mo. (leaky gut, heavy metal toxicity, eczema)

SCD 3 months

But meanwhile, much of the metal store in the bones, brain and rest of the

nervous system start moving a little, " mobilization " . This happens because, it

is the body's own detoxification mechanism at work. Only so much metal will be

released in the blood at once, so the body can attempt to detoxify it and

excrete it. Then the body lets out a little more, adding what is coming in

through diet and environment.

Meanwhile, doing SCD, and healing the gut, and increasing the manufacture of

glutathione made in the body, will ultimately help to clear the body of these

extra metals, at a pace it can handle, without unduely wearing out the kidneys

which is another associated problems with chelation and autism.

[Guest guest]

Dear Summer,

I was very interested in what you wrote. In the pieces below, are you saying

that SCD will cross the blood/brain barrier to pull metals in this area. I just

wanted to make sure that I understand you correctly.

Thanks!

Jeni Lynn

SCD 2 weeks

mom to Elle, 17 mo. (leaky gut, heavy metal toxicity, eczema)

SCD 3 months

But meanwhile, much of the metal store in the bones, brain and rest of the

nervous system start moving a little, " mobilization " . This happens because, it

is the body's own detoxification mechanism at work. Only so much metal will be

released in the blood at once, so the body can attempt to detoxify it and

excrete it. Then the body lets out a little more, adding what is coming in

through diet and environment.

Meanwhile, doing SCD, and healing the gut, and increasing the manufacture of

glutathione made in the body, will ultimately help to clear the body of these

extra metals, at a pace it can handle, without unduely wearing out the kidneys

which is another associated problems with chelation and autism.

[Guest guest]

Dear Summer,

I was very interested in what you wrote. In the pieces below, are you saying

that SCD will cross the blood/brain barrier to pull metals in this area. I just

wanted to make sure that I understand you correctly.

Thanks!

Jeni Lynn

SCD 2 weeks

mom to Elle, 17 mo. (leaky gut, heavy metal toxicity, eczema)

SCD 3 months

But meanwhile, much of the metal store in the bones, brain and rest of the

nervous system start moving a little, " mobilization " . This happens because, it

is the body's own detoxification mechanism at work. Only so much metal will be

released in the blood at once, so the body can attempt to detoxify it and

excrete it. Then the body lets out a little more, adding what is coming in

through diet and environment.

Meanwhile, doing SCD, and healing the gut, and increasing the manufacture of

glutathione made in the body, will ultimately help to clear the body of these

extra metals, at a pace it can handle, without unduely wearing out the kidneys

which is another associated problems with chelation and autism.

[Guest guest]

Hey ! My name is Jeni Lynn. We live in Staunton . . . not far from you.

Charlottesville, right?

I don't know what the most accurate way is to determine whether you are toxic or

not if you are not chelating with chelators.

Our DAN had us send out hair analysis on our kids. She also had us do a

" chelation challenge " with TD-DMSA and then tested the urine to see what was

excreted. This verifies the presence of toxins as well as helps gauge an

individual's response to the chelator. My daughter also had blood tests done by

our pediatrician which showed toxic levels of lead in her blood (however, blood

is not an accurate way to test if the individual's exposure was long ago).

If one is not chelating, then I am not sure how you would know if you are toxic.

I am terribly interested in finding out myself. I suspect that I am toxic, but

I don't know for sure. Since I don't have definitive plans for chelating myself

(other than SCD), I don't know how I would ever know.

Welcome to the group!

Jeni Lynn

SCD 2 weeks

mom to Margeaux, 5 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems)

, 3 yr. (gastrointestinal problems)

Elle, 17 mo. (leaky gut, heavy metal toxicity, eczema)

SCD 3 months

Re: Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation?

Since we are on the topic of heavy metal toxicity, what is the MOST accurate

way to

determine if one IS toxic?

V.

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

and

http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

[Guest guest]

Hey ! My name is Jeni Lynn. We live in Staunton . . . not far from you.

Charlottesville, right?

I don't know what the most accurate way is to determine whether you are toxic or

not if you are not chelating with chelators.

Our DAN had us send out hair analysis on our kids. She also had us do a

" chelation challenge " with TD-DMSA and then tested the urine to see what was

excreted. This verifies the presence of toxins as well as helps gauge an

individual's response to the chelator. My daughter also had blood tests done by

our pediatrician which showed toxic levels of lead in her blood (however, blood

is not an accurate way to test if the individual's exposure was long ago).

If one is not chelating, then I am not sure how you would know if you are toxic.

I am terribly interested in finding out myself. I suspect that I am toxic, but

I don't know for sure. Since I don't have definitive plans for chelating myself

(other than SCD), I don't know how I would ever know.

Welcome to the group!

Jeni Lynn

SCD 2 weeks

mom to Margeaux, 5 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems)

, 3 yr. (gastrointestinal problems)

Elle, 17 mo. (leaky gut, heavy metal toxicity, eczema)

SCD 3 months

Re: Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation?

Since we are on the topic of heavy metal toxicity, what is the MOST accurate

way to

determine if one IS toxic?

V.

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

and

http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

[Guest guest]

Hey ! My name is Jeni Lynn. We live in Staunton . . . not far from you.

Charlottesville, right?

I don't know what the most accurate way is to determine whether you are toxic or

not if you are not chelating with chelators.

Our DAN had us send out hair analysis on our kids. She also had us do a

" chelation challenge " with TD-DMSA and then tested the urine to see what was

excreted. This verifies the presence of toxins as well as helps gauge an

individual's response to the chelator. My daughter also had blood tests done by

our pediatrician which showed toxic levels of lead in her blood (however, blood

is not an accurate way to test if the individual's exposure was long ago).

If one is not chelating, then I am not sure how you would know if you are toxic.

I am terribly interested in finding out myself. I suspect that I am toxic, but

I don't know for sure. Since I don't have definitive plans for chelating myself

(other than SCD), I don't know how I would ever know.

Welcome to the group!

Jeni Lynn

SCD 2 weeks

mom to Margeaux, 5 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems)

, 3 yr. (gastrointestinal problems)

Elle, 17 mo. (leaky gut, heavy metal toxicity, eczema)

SCD 3 months

Re: Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation?

Since we are on the topic of heavy metal toxicity, what is the MOST accurate

way to

determine if one IS toxic?

V.

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

and

http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

[Guest guest]

Hi there, Jenni! We're practically neighbors!!! C'Ville is correct!

First off, what is a DAN???

I spoke with a Naturopath (sp?) today, and he said that blood testing is more

accurate than

hair, but we were talking about my 10 month old son... His level was below " 4 "

for

mercury, and that was all I tested for. We didn't do lead, because we live in a

newer home.

Perhaps we should?!

V.

>

> Hey ! My name is Jeni Lynn. We live in Staunton . . . not far from you.

Charlottesville, right?

>

> I don't know what the most accurate way is to determine whether you are toxic

or not if

you are not chelating with chelators.

>

> Our DAN had us send out hair analysis on our kids. She also had us do a

" chelation

challenge " with TD-DMSA and then tested the urine to see what was excreted.

This

verifies the presence of toxins as well as helps gauge an individual's response

to the

chelator. My daughter also had blood tests done by our pediatrician which

showed toxic

levels of lead in her blood (however, blood is not an accurate way to test if

the individual's

exposure was long ago).

>

> If one is not chelating, then I am not sure how you would know if you are

toxic. I am

terribly interested in finding out myself. I suspect that I am toxic, but I

don't know for

sure. Since I don't have definitive plans for chelating myself (other than

SCD), I don't know

how I would ever know.

>

> Welcome to the group!

>

> Jeni Lynn

> SCD 2 weeks

> mom to Margeaux, 5 yr. (heavy metal toxicity, gastrointestinal problems)

> , 3 yr. (gastrointestinal problems)

> Elle, 17 mo. (leaky gut, heavy metal toxicity, eczema)

> SCD 3 months

> Re: Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation?

>

>

> Since we are on the topic of heavy metal toxicity, what is the MOST accurate

way to

> determine if one IS toxic?

>

> V.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the

Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites:

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.infohttp://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/\

>

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.comhttp://www.pecanbread.com/>

>

>