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I think detoxing other toxins and detoxing heavy metals are definitely much

different. It is much easier to detox the toxins, as they are not tightly

bound to the cells in the brain. Heavy metal toxicity greatly increases the

chances of having the yeast, bacteria, and a more acidic PH level in the

body and also causing the body to not be able to detox well. I don't know if

100% healing can occur with diet alone if you are really that ill,

especially when unnatural chemicals and toxins are present. Although, we

have only been here 9 months. Diet does help though considerably. About 65%

in my daughter's case in fact. I definitely have a new child from the one I

had 9 months ago. I believe we wouldn't be dealing with these bacterial,

viral, and yeast issues if we weren't so toxic. Our inner vital force would

be able to throw anything else off after we dump those " loads " . Imagine your

immune system has been working overtime now and then, after you get rid of

the bad stuff, it can now work as hard as it has to to improve your health.

I may come across like an extreme naturalist here but, SCD takes the body's

burden off of trying to digest all those complex carbs and sugars and then

also supplies the body's immune system with more energy to heal and grow. I

need to do more research on safer chelation for the heavy metals but, I

believe this is the way to go: The first insult, mercury toxicity, could be

transferred from mother to baby as well as many other things. SCD also looks

out for us in the respect of mercury in foods. I am so happy to know that

there was a place to come to start the process and get my child learning and

talking. If you have the finances, I would definitely get chelation done.

Some of us are not fortunate enough to have that option. Of course this is

only my personal opinion. Jenn & Kali 9 months SCD

Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation?

> My son is doing so well on the SCD. He has mad incredible gains which

> I mainly attribute to the diet. He does also take CLO, a

> multi-vitamin, and a probiotic which I think have helped as well.

> But, now our DAN! is suggesting we chelate. She believes it will take

> my son over the final hump. I believe I read somewhere that as the

> gut heals the body is able to detox on its own. What is the scoop on

> this? I would really rather not start chelation, but I don't want to

> lose valuable time if it is really something I should be doing.

>

>

> molly

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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I think detoxing other toxins and detoxing heavy metals are definitely much

different. It is much easier to detox the toxins, as they are not tightly

bound to the cells in the brain. Heavy metal toxicity greatly increases the

chances of having the yeast, bacteria, and a more acidic PH level in the

body and also causing the body to not be able to detox well. I don't know if

100% healing can occur with diet alone if you are really that ill,

especially when unnatural chemicals and toxins are present. Although, we

have only been here 9 months. Diet does help though considerably. About 65%

in my daughter's case in fact. I definitely have a new child from the one I

had 9 months ago. I believe we wouldn't be dealing with these bacterial,

viral, and yeast issues if we weren't so toxic. Our inner vital force would

be able to throw anything else off after we dump those " loads " . Imagine your

immune system has been working overtime now and then, after you get rid of

the bad stuff, it can now work as hard as it has to to improve your health.

I may come across like an extreme naturalist here but, SCD takes the body's

burden off of trying to digest all those complex carbs and sugars and then

also supplies the body's immune system with more energy to heal and grow. I

need to do more research on safer chelation for the heavy metals but, I

believe this is the way to go: The first insult, mercury toxicity, could be

transferred from mother to baby as well as many other things. SCD also looks

out for us in the respect of mercury in foods. I am so happy to know that

there was a place to come to start the process and get my child learning and

talking. If you have the finances, I would definitely get chelation done.

Some of us are not fortunate enough to have that option. Of course this is

only my personal opinion. Jenn & Kali 9 months SCD

Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation?

> My son is doing so well on the SCD. He has mad incredible gains which

> I mainly attribute to the diet. He does also take CLO, a

> multi-vitamin, and a probiotic which I think have helped as well.

> But, now our DAN! is suggesting we chelate. She believes it will take

> my son over the final hump. I believe I read somewhere that as the

> gut heals the body is able to detox on its own. What is the scoop on

> this? I would really rather not start chelation, but I don't want to

> lose valuable time if it is really something I should be doing.

>

>

> molly

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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I think detoxing other toxins and detoxing heavy metals are definitely much

different. It is much easier to detox the toxins, as they are not tightly

bound to the cells in the brain. Heavy metal toxicity greatly increases the

chances of having the yeast, bacteria, and a more acidic PH level in the

body and also causing the body to not be able to detox well. I don't know if

100% healing can occur with diet alone if you are really that ill,

especially when unnatural chemicals and toxins are present. Although, we

have only been here 9 months. Diet does help though considerably. About 65%

in my daughter's case in fact. I definitely have a new child from the one I

had 9 months ago. I believe we wouldn't be dealing with these bacterial,

viral, and yeast issues if we weren't so toxic. Our inner vital force would

be able to throw anything else off after we dump those " loads " . Imagine your

immune system has been working overtime now and then, after you get rid of

the bad stuff, it can now work as hard as it has to to improve your health.

I may come across like an extreme naturalist here but, SCD takes the body's

burden off of trying to digest all those complex carbs and sugars and then

also supplies the body's immune system with more energy to heal and grow. I

need to do more research on safer chelation for the heavy metals but, I

believe this is the way to go: The first insult, mercury toxicity, could be

transferred from mother to baby as well as many other things. SCD also looks

out for us in the respect of mercury in foods. I am so happy to know that

there was a place to come to start the process and get my child learning and

talking. If you have the finances, I would definitely get chelation done.

Some of us are not fortunate enough to have that option. Of course this is

only my personal opinion. Jenn & Kali 9 months SCD

Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation?

> My son is doing so well on the SCD. He has mad incredible gains which

> I mainly attribute to the diet. He does also take CLO, a

> multi-vitamin, and a probiotic which I think have helped as well.

> But, now our DAN! is suggesting we chelate. She believes it will take

> my son over the final hump. I believe I read somewhere that as the

> gut heals the body is able to detox on its own. What is the scoop on

> this? I would really rather not start chelation, but I don't want to

> lose valuable time if it is really something I should be doing.

>

>

> molly

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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> My son is doing so well on the SCD. He has mad incredible gains which

> I mainly attribute to the diet. He does also take CLO, a

> multi-vitamin, and a probiotic which I think have helped as well.

> But, now our DAN! is suggesting we chelate. She believes it will take

> my son over the final hump. I believe I read somewhere that as the

> gut heals the body is able to detox on its own. What is the scoop on

> this? I would really rather not start chelation, but I don't want to

> lose valuable time if it is really something I should be doing.

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/testimonies/heavy_metal_toxicity.htm

Carol F.

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> My son is doing so well on the SCD. He has mad incredible gains which

> I mainly attribute to the diet. He does also take CLO, a

> multi-vitamin, and a probiotic which I think have helped as well.

> But, now our DAN! is suggesting we chelate. She believes it will take

> my son over the final hump. I believe I read somewhere that as the

> gut heals the body is able to detox on its own. What is the scoop on

> this? I would really rather not start chelation, but I don't want to

> lose valuable time if it is really something I should be doing.

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/testimonies/heavy_metal_toxicity.htm

Carol F.

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> My son is doing so well on the SCD. He has mad incredible gains which

> I mainly attribute to the diet. He does also take CLO, a

> multi-vitamin, and a probiotic which I think have helped as well.

> But, now our DAN! is suggesting we chelate. She believes it will take

> my son over the final hump. I believe I read somewhere that as the

> gut heals the body is able to detox on its own. What is the scoop on

> this? I would really rather not start chelation, but I don't want to

> lose valuable time if it is really something I should be doing.

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/testimonies/heavy_metal_toxicity.htm

Carol F.

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Chelation therapy tends to increase metal excretion, and in the process, stirs

up lots of metals that mobilize and redistribute. My children and I have lived

on a superfund site, and have been able to slowly excrete metals over time,

safely, by using SCD, enzymes, other supplements, and helping the body to

passivate heavy metals, with its own mechanisms, by using specific

vitamin/mineral supplementation.

The focus of medicene should be more on strengthening the body's own systems

of excess metal passivation, instead of wrecking them further. I am not in favor

of chelation, I do not know of anyone who has been able to take this therapy and

not lose some important aspect of their thinking/memorization ability.

The important aspect for us is that we have been able to have the same success

using SCD, targeted supplementation, and taking all loads off the detoxification

pathways we can...ie reduced phenols, no nitrites, organic, free range pastured

animals and animal products, organic and biodynamically raised produce. These

things make a world of difference. You can't expect a chicken that has eaten

arsenic and cadmium laced feed to help a person's metals go down. The higher

metals someone has, the more broken the mechanisms of metal passivation within

the body...the body's own first step to chelating naturally. How the body gets

left out of the equation when reducing metal load, is beyond me.

Elaine's approach, by stopping what I dub the " Vicious Metal Cycle " by

reinfocing one of the first barriers to prevent additional metal contamination

from food, water and air, the digestive system, helps to break the cycle on many

levels, from preventing absorption of excess metals into the bloodstream, and by

refining the digestive process so that the state of malabsorption is slowly

corrected to one of proper absorption.

What does absorption have to do with it? Well, when heavy metals enter the

body, the body has defense, it binds the metals with trace minerals forming a

structure that is much safer for the body, and does not cause the same oxidative

stress. When a body is malabsorbing, not only is one accumulating heavy metals

directly through a malfunctionning digestive system, they do not have the

nutrients available to bind to these heavy metals effectively to prevent damage.

There have been some old posts on pecanbread where Elaine made some statements

on this subject, as well as at least one study which I know of confirming she

was correct.

There are a number of opinions on this subject, this opinion merely reflects

my own research, experience, and observations on the subject. Yes, it is

possible to reduce metal load, at a pace the body can handle, by strengthening

those mechanisms that are broken within the body.

Summer, SCD 18 months

ccka2001 sacred65@...> wrote:

My son is doing so well on the SCD. He has mad incredible gains which

I mainly attribute to the diet. He does also take CLO, a

multi-vitamin, and a probiotic which I think have helped as well.

But, now our DAN! is suggesting we chelate. She believes it will take

my son over the final hump. I believe I read somewhere that as the

gut heals the body is able to detox on its own. What is the scoop on

this? I would really rather not start chelation, but I don't want to

lose valuable time if it is really something I should be doing.

molly

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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Chelation therapy tends to increase metal excretion, and in the process, stirs

up lots of metals that mobilize and redistribute. My children and I have lived

on a superfund site, and have been able to slowly excrete metals over time,

safely, by using SCD, enzymes, other supplements, and helping the body to

passivate heavy metals, with its own mechanisms, by using specific

vitamin/mineral supplementation.

The focus of medicene should be more on strengthening the body's own systems

of excess metal passivation, instead of wrecking them further. I am not in favor

of chelation, I do not know of anyone who has been able to take this therapy and

not lose some important aspect of their thinking/memorization ability.

The important aspect for us is that we have been able to have the same success

using SCD, targeted supplementation, and taking all loads off the detoxification

pathways we can...ie reduced phenols, no nitrites, organic, free range pastured

animals and animal products, organic and biodynamically raised produce. These

things make a world of difference. You can't expect a chicken that has eaten

arsenic and cadmium laced feed to help a person's metals go down. The higher

metals someone has, the more broken the mechanisms of metal passivation within

the body...the body's own first step to chelating naturally. How the body gets

left out of the equation when reducing metal load, is beyond me.

Elaine's approach, by stopping what I dub the " Vicious Metal Cycle " by

reinfocing one of the first barriers to prevent additional metal contamination

from food, water and air, the digestive system, helps to break the cycle on many

levels, from preventing absorption of excess metals into the bloodstream, and by

refining the digestive process so that the state of malabsorption is slowly

corrected to one of proper absorption.

What does absorption have to do with it? Well, when heavy metals enter the

body, the body has defense, it binds the metals with trace minerals forming a

structure that is much safer for the body, and does not cause the same oxidative

stress. When a body is malabsorbing, not only is one accumulating heavy metals

directly through a malfunctionning digestive system, they do not have the

nutrients available to bind to these heavy metals effectively to prevent damage.

There have been some old posts on pecanbread where Elaine made some statements

on this subject, as well as at least one study which I know of confirming she

was correct.

There are a number of opinions on this subject, this opinion merely reflects

my own research, experience, and observations on the subject. Yes, it is

possible to reduce metal load, at a pace the body can handle, by strengthening

those mechanisms that are broken within the body.

Summer, SCD 18 months

ccka2001 sacred65@...> wrote:

My son is doing so well on the SCD. He has mad incredible gains which

I mainly attribute to the diet. He does also take CLO, a

multi-vitamin, and a probiotic which I think have helped as well.

But, now our DAN! is suggesting we chelate. She believes it will take

my son over the final hump. I believe I read somewhere that as the

gut heals the body is able to detox on its own. What is the scoop on

this? I would really rather not start chelation, but I don't want to

lose valuable time if it is really something I should be doing.

molly

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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Chelation therapy tends to increase metal excretion, and in the process, stirs

up lots of metals that mobilize and redistribute. My children and I have lived

on a superfund site, and have been able to slowly excrete metals over time,

safely, by using SCD, enzymes, other supplements, and helping the body to

passivate heavy metals, with its own mechanisms, by using specific

vitamin/mineral supplementation.

The focus of medicene should be more on strengthening the body's own systems

of excess metal passivation, instead of wrecking them further. I am not in favor

of chelation, I do not know of anyone who has been able to take this therapy and

not lose some important aspect of their thinking/memorization ability.

The important aspect for us is that we have been able to have the same success

using SCD, targeted supplementation, and taking all loads off the detoxification

pathways we can...ie reduced phenols, no nitrites, organic, free range pastured

animals and animal products, organic and biodynamically raised produce. These

things make a world of difference. You can't expect a chicken that has eaten

arsenic and cadmium laced feed to help a person's metals go down. The higher

metals someone has, the more broken the mechanisms of metal passivation within

the body...the body's own first step to chelating naturally. How the body gets

left out of the equation when reducing metal load, is beyond me.

Elaine's approach, by stopping what I dub the " Vicious Metal Cycle " by

reinfocing one of the first barriers to prevent additional metal contamination

from food, water and air, the digestive system, helps to break the cycle on many

levels, from preventing absorption of excess metals into the bloodstream, and by

refining the digestive process so that the state of malabsorption is slowly

corrected to one of proper absorption.

What does absorption have to do with it? Well, when heavy metals enter the

body, the body has defense, it binds the metals with trace minerals forming a

structure that is much safer for the body, and does not cause the same oxidative

stress. When a body is malabsorbing, not only is one accumulating heavy metals

directly through a malfunctionning digestive system, they do not have the

nutrients available to bind to these heavy metals effectively to prevent damage.

There have been some old posts on pecanbread where Elaine made some statements

on this subject, as well as at least one study which I know of confirming she

was correct.

There are a number of opinions on this subject, this opinion merely reflects

my own research, experience, and observations on the subject. Yes, it is

possible to reduce metal load, at a pace the body can handle, by strengthening

those mechanisms that are broken within the body.

Summer, SCD 18 months

ccka2001 sacred65@...> wrote:

My son is doing so well on the SCD. He has mad incredible gains which

I mainly attribute to the diet. He does also take CLO, a

multi-vitamin, and a probiotic which I think have helped as well.

But, now our DAN! is suggesting we chelate. She believes it will take

my son over the final hump. I believe I read somewhere that as the

gut heals the body is able to detox on its own. What is the scoop on

this? I would really rather not start chelation, but I don't want to

lose valuable time if it is really something I should be doing.

molly

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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Elaine:

" I have said again and again on this list, that levels of things like

mercury, etc. will go out of whack if a person or child is not absorbing

nutrients because of bowel problems. "

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" I have said again and again on this list, that levels of things like

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" I have said again and again on this list, that levels of things like

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> >

> > Elaine:

> >

> > " I have said again and again on this list, that levels of things like

> > mercury, etc. will go out of whack if a person or child is not absorbing

> > nutrients because of bowel problems. "

> >

> > :

> >

> > Let's say a person does not have excessive metals...they are fine...then

> > they incur poor gut health, colon problems, malabsorbtion. How do the

> > metals accummulate then? Are you saying that the bowel problems lead to

> > malnutrition so the body cannot detox properly and THAT creates the

> > metals build-up??? This is very interesting for sure.

> >

> > I take you feel that fixing the bowel problem and dysbiosis first will

> > restore proper nutrition and then the body would return to natural

> > functional detox and that will reduce the excessive metals in the body?

> > Sounds reasonable. Is this correct? Some people would certainly like an

> > alternative to straight chelation... believe, the entire issues of

> > 'chelation' if swimming in controversy, disagreement, hard feelings,

> > anxiety, and a bunch of unhappy campers.

> >

> >

> >

> > Elaine:

> >

> > Thanks so much for pursuing this. This explanation is not way out; it

> > is basic biochemistry and physiology. It is accepted by many clinicans

> > who understand the detoxification systems of the body, but as I have

> > said, they are not trained sufficiently in biochemistry to apply these

> > sytems to diet.

> >

> > A simple example of what I am talking about has to do with

detoxification

> > by the P-450 system of the liver. Many fat soluble compounds which are

> > injurious to the body (fats/lipids in drugs, pesticides and herbicides

> > which are fat soluble compounds, and heavy metals among which are

mercury

> > and lead, etc. etc. etc.) enter the body and were it not for the P-450

> > detox system, they would remain and accumulate. The P-450 system is

> > equipped to make them WATER SOLUBLE through the action of glutathione

> > (and I have not studied the biochemistry of this compound for a long

> > time) and when they are water-soluble, they enter the bloodstream and

are

> > eliminated via the urine.

> >

> > The action of enzymes which require the transfer of electrons is

> > facilitated by Vitamin C. In fact, these enzymes of the P450 system

> > cannot work without sufficient Vitamin C in the diet. Therefore, when we

> > have overgrowth of microbes (bacteria and yeast) in the gut, when we

have

> > increased permeability because of them, when we do not absorb even the

> > tiny amounts of nutrients in the high SAD (typical No. American diet and

> > also the GF/CF diet with rice, corn, gluten free wheat, etc.)) we do not

> > detoxify properly.

> >

> > Because SCD aids in returning the gut to health, we slowly should

> > correct all this.

> >

> > Elaine

> >

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> >

> > Elaine:

> >

> > " I have said again and again on this list, that levels of things like

> > mercury, etc. will go out of whack if a person or child is not absorbing

> > nutrients because of bowel problems. "

> >

> > :

> >

> > Let's say a person does not have excessive metals...they are fine...then

> > they incur poor gut health, colon problems, malabsorbtion. How do the

> > metals accummulate then? Are you saying that the bowel problems lead to

> > malnutrition so the body cannot detox properly and THAT creates the

> > metals build-up??? This is very interesting for sure.

> >

> > I take you feel that fixing the bowel problem and dysbiosis first will

> > restore proper nutrition and then the body would return to natural

> > functional detox and that will reduce the excessive metals in the body?

> > Sounds reasonable. Is this correct? Some people would certainly like an

> > alternative to straight chelation... believe, the entire issues of

> > 'chelation' if swimming in controversy, disagreement, hard feelings,

> > anxiety, and a bunch of unhappy campers.

> >

> >

> >

> > Elaine:

> >

> > Thanks so much for pursuing this. This explanation is not way out; it

> > is basic biochemistry and physiology. It is accepted by many clinicans

> > who understand the detoxification systems of the body, but as I have

> > said, they are not trained sufficiently in biochemistry to apply these

> > sytems to diet.

> >

> > A simple example of what I am talking about has to do with

detoxification

> > by the P-450 system of the liver. Many fat soluble compounds which are

> > injurious to the body (fats/lipids in drugs, pesticides and herbicides

> > which are fat soluble compounds, and heavy metals among which are

mercury

> > and lead, etc. etc. etc.) enter the body and were it not for the P-450

> > detox system, they would remain and accumulate. The P-450 system is

> > equipped to make them WATER SOLUBLE through the action of glutathione

> > (and I have not studied the biochemistry of this compound for a long

> > time) and when they are water-soluble, they enter the bloodstream and

are

> > eliminated via the urine.

> >

> > The action of enzymes which require the transfer of electrons is

> > facilitated by Vitamin C. In fact, these enzymes of the P450 system

> > cannot work without sufficient Vitamin C in the diet. Therefore, when we

> > have overgrowth of microbes (bacteria and yeast) in the gut, when we

have

> > increased permeability because of them, when we do not absorb even the

> > tiny amounts of nutrients in the high SAD (typical No. American diet and

> > also the GF/CF diet with rice, corn, gluten free wheat, etc.)) we do not

> > detoxify properly.

> >

> > Because SCD aids in returning the gut to health, we slowly should

> > correct all this.

> >

> > Elaine

> >

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> >

> > Elaine:

> >

> > " I have said again and again on this list, that levels of things like

> > mercury, etc. will go out of whack if a person or child is not absorbing

> > nutrients because of bowel problems. "

> >

> > :

> >

> > Let's say a person does not have excessive metals...they are fine...then

> > they incur poor gut health, colon problems, malabsorbtion. How do the

> > metals accummulate then? Are you saying that the bowel problems lead to

> > malnutrition so the body cannot detox properly and THAT creates the

> > metals build-up??? This is very interesting for sure.

> >

> > I take you feel that fixing the bowel problem and dysbiosis first will

> > restore proper nutrition and then the body would return to natural

> > functional detox and that will reduce the excessive metals in the body?

> > Sounds reasonable. Is this correct? Some people would certainly like an

> > alternative to straight chelation... believe, the entire issues of

> > 'chelation' if swimming in controversy, disagreement, hard feelings,

> > anxiety, and a bunch of unhappy campers.

> >

> >

> >

> > Elaine:

> >

> > Thanks so much for pursuing this. This explanation is not way out; it

> > is basic biochemistry and physiology. It is accepted by many clinicans

> > who understand the detoxification systems of the body, but as I have

> > said, they are not trained sufficiently in biochemistry to apply these

> > sytems to diet.

> >

> > A simple example of what I am talking about has to do with

detoxification

> > by the P-450 system of the liver. Many fat soluble compounds which are

> > injurious to the body (fats/lipids in drugs, pesticides and herbicides

> > which are fat soluble compounds, and heavy metals among which are

mercury

> > and lead, etc. etc. etc.) enter the body and were it not for the P-450

> > detox system, they would remain and accumulate. The P-450 system is

> > equipped to make them WATER SOLUBLE through the action of glutathione

> > (and I have not studied the biochemistry of this compound for a long

> > time) and when they are water-soluble, they enter the bloodstream and

are

> > eliminated via the urine.

> >

> > The action of enzymes which require the transfer of electrons is

> > facilitated by Vitamin C. In fact, these enzymes of the P450 system

> > cannot work without sufficient Vitamin C in the diet. Therefore, when we

> > have overgrowth of microbes (bacteria and yeast) in the gut, when we

have

> > increased permeability because of them, when we do not absorb even the

> > tiny amounts of nutrients in the high SAD (typical No. American diet and

> > also the GF/CF diet with rice, corn, gluten free wheat, etc.)) we do not

> > detoxify properly.

> >

> > Because SCD aids in returning the gut to health, we slowly should

> > correct all this.

> >

> > Elaine

> >

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Summer,

I love to read your research. You are so intelligent in this area. I

haven't talked to you in quite a while. I also believe what you are saying.

And, it is dificult to know what came first, the chicken or the egg? SCD

does help with chelation but, over time. What are the other ways of

chelating other than SCD? Jenn & K Re: Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation?

> Chelation therapy tends to increase metal excretion, and in the process,

stirs up lots of metals that mobilize and redistribute. My children and I

have lived on a superfund site, and have been able to slowly excrete metals

over time, safely, by using SCD, enzymes, other supplements, and helping the

body to passivate heavy metals, with its own mechanisms, by using specific

vitamin/mineral supplementation.

>

> The focus of medicene should be more on strengthening the body's own

systems of excess metal passivation, instead of wrecking them further. I am

not in favor of chelation, I do not know of anyone who has been able to take

this therapy and not lose some important aspect of their

thinking/memorization ability.

>

> The important aspect for us is that we have been able to have the same

success using SCD, targeted supplementation, and taking all loads off the

detoxification pathways we can...ie reduced phenols, no nitrites, organic,

free range pastured animals and animal products, organic and biodynamically

raised produce. These things make a world of difference. You can't expect a

chicken that has eaten arsenic and cadmium laced feed to help a person's

metals go down. The higher metals someone has, the more broken the

mechanisms of metal passivation within the body...the body's own first step

to chelating naturally. How the body gets left out of the equation when

reducing metal load, is beyond me.

>

> Elaine's approach, by stopping what I dub the " Vicious Metal Cycle " by

reinfocing one of the first barriers to prevent additional metal

contamination from food, water and air, the digestive system, helps to break

the cycle on many levels, from preventing absorption of excess metals into

the bloodstream, and by refining the digestive process so that the state of

malabsorption is slowly corrected to one of proper absorption.

>

> What does absorption have to do with it? Well, when heavy metals enter

the body, the body has defense, it binds the metals with trace minerals

forming a structure that is much safer for the body, and does not cause the

same oxidative stress. When a body is malabsorbing, not only is one

accumulating heavy metals directly through a malfunctionning digestive

system, they do not have the nutrients available to bind to these heavy

metals effectively to prevent damage.

>

> There have been some old posts on pecanbread where Elaine made some

statements on this subject, as well as at least one study which I know of

confirming she was correct.

>

> There are a number of opinions on this subject, this opinion merely

reflects my own research, experience, and observations on the subject. Yes,

it is possible to reduce metal load, at a pace the body can handle, by

strengthening those mechanisms that are broken within the body.

>

> Summer, SCD 18 months

>

> ccka2001 sacred65@...> wrote:

> My son is doing so well on the SCD. He has mad incredible gains which

> I mainly attribute to the diet. He does also take CLO, a

> multi-vitamin, and a probiotic which I think have helped as well.

> But, now our DAN! is suggesting we chelate. She believes it will take

> my son over the final hump. I believe I read somewhere that as the

> gut heals the body is able to detox on its own. What is the scoop on

> this? I would really rather not start chelation, but I don't want to

> lose valuable time if it is really something I should be doing.

>

>

> molly

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

>

>

>

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Summer,

I love to read your research. You are so intelligent in this area. I

haven't talked to you in quite a while. I also believe what you are saying.

And, it is dificult to know what came first, the chicken or the egg? SCD

does help with chelation but, over time. What are the other ways of

chelating other than SCD? Jenn & K Re: Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation?

> Chelation therapy tends to increase metal excretion, and in the process,

stirs up lots of metals that mobilize and redistribute. My children and I

have lived on a superfund site, and have been able to slowly excrete metals

over time, safely, by using SCD, enzymes, other supplements, and helping the

body to passivate heavy metals, with its own mechanisms, by using specific

vitamin/mineral supplementation.

>

> The focus of medicene should be more on strengthening the body's own

systems of excess metal passivation, instead of wrecking them further. I am

not in favor of chelation, I do not know of anyone who has been able to take

this therapy and not lose some important aspect of their

thinking/memorization ability.

>

> The important aspect for us is that we have been able to have the same

success using SCD, targeted supplementation, and taking all loads off the

detoxification pathways we can...ie reduced phenols, no nitrites, organic,

free range pastured animals and animal products, organic and biodynamically

raised produce. These things make a world of difference. You can't expect a

chicken that has eaten arsenic and cadmium laced feed to help a person's

metals go down. The higher metals someone has, the more broken the

mechanisms of metal passivation within the body...the body's own first step

to chelating naturally. How the body gets left out of the equation when

reducing metal load, is beyond me.

>

> Elaine's approach, by stopping what I dub the " Vicious Metal Cycle " by

reinfocing one of the first barriers to prevent additional metal

contamination from food, water and air, the digestive system, helps to break

the cycle on many levels, from preventing absorption of excess metals into

the bloodstream, and by refining the digestive process so that the state of

malabsorption is slowly corrected to one of proper absorption.

>

> What does absorption have to do with it? Well, when heavy metals enter

the body, the body has defense, it binds the metals with trace minerals

forming a structure that is much safer for the body, and does not cause the

same oxidative stress. When a body is malabsorbing, not only is one

accumulating heavy metals directly through a malfunctionning digestive

system, they do not have the nutrients available to bind to these heavy

metals effectively to prevent damage.

>

> There have been some old posts on pecanbread where Elaine made some

statements on this subject, as well as at least one study which I know of

confirming she was correct.

>

> There are a number of opinions on this subject, this opinion merely

reflects my own research, experience, and observations on the subject. Yes,

it is possible to reduce metal load, at a pace the body can handle, by

strengthening those mechanisms that are broken within the body.

>

> Summer, SCD 18 months

>

> ccka2001 sacred65@...> wrote:

> My son is doing so well on the SCD. He has mad incredible gains which

> I mainly attribute to the diet. He does also take CLO, a

> multi-vitamin, and a probiotic which I think have helped as well.

> But, now our DAN! is suggesting we chelate. She believes it will take

> my son over the final hump. I believe I read somewhere that as the

> gut heals the body is able to detox on its own. What is the scoop on

> this? I would really rather not start chelation, but I don't want to

> lose valuable time if it is really something I should be doing.

>

>

> molly

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

>

>

>

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Summer,

I love to read your research. You are so intelligent in this area. I

haven't talked to you in quite a while. I also believe what you are saying.

And, it is dificult to know what came first, the chicken or the egg? SCD

does help with chelation but, over time. What are the other ways of

chelating other than SCD? Jenn & K Re: Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation?

> Chelation therapy tends to increase metal excretion, and in the process,

stirs up lots of metals that mobilize and redistribute. My children and I

have lived on a superfund site, and have been able to slowly excrete metals

over time, safely, by using SCD, enzymes, other supplements, and helping the

body to passivate heavy metals, with its own mechanisms, by using specific

vitamin/mineral supplementation.

>

> The focus of medicene should be more on strengthening the body's own

systems of excess metal passivation, instead of wrecking them further. I am

not in favor of chelation, I do not know of anyone who has been able to take

this therapy and not lose some important aspect of their

thinking/memorization ability.

>

> The important aspect for us is that we have been able to have the same

success using SCD, targeted supplementation, and taking all loads off the

detoxification pathways we can...ie reduced phenols, no nitrites, organic,

free range pastured animals and animal products, organic and biodynamically

raised produce. These things make a world of difference. You can't expect a

chicken that has eaten arsenic and cadmium laced feed to help a person's

metals go down. The higher metals someone has, the more broken the

mechanisms of metal passivation within the body...the body's own first step

to chelating naturally. How the body gets left out of the equation when

reducing metal load, is beyond me.

>

> Elaine's approach, by stopping what I dub the " Vicious Metal Cycle " by

reinfocing one of the first barriers to prevent additional metal

contamination from food, water and air, the digestive system, helps to break

the cycle on many levels, from preventing absorption of excess metals into

the bloodstream, and by refining the digestive process so that the state of

malabsorption is slowly corrected to one of proper absorption.

>

> What does absorption have to do with it? Well, when heavy metals enter

the body, the body has defense, it binds the metals with trace minerals

forming a structure that is much safer for the body, and does not cause the

same oxidative stress. When a body is malabsorbing, not only is one

accumulating heavy metals directly through a malfunctionning digestive

system, they do not have the nutrients available to bind to these heavy

metals effectively to prevent damage.

>

> There have been some old posts on pecanbread where Elaine made some

statements on this subject, as well as at least one study which I know of

confirming she was correct.

>

> There are a number of opinions on this subject, this opinion merely

reflects my own research, experience, and observations on the subject. Yes,

it is possible to reduce metal load, at a pace the body can handle, by

strengthening those mechanisms that are broken within the body.

>

> Summer, SCD 18 months

>

> ccka2001 sacred65@...> wrote:

> My son is doing so well on the SCD. He has mad incredible gains which

> I mainly attribute to the diet. He does also take CLO, a

> multi-vitamin, and a probiotic which I think have helped as well.

> But, now our DAN! is suggesting we chelate. She believes it will take

> my son over the final hump. I believe I read somewhere that as the

> gut heals the body is able to detox on its own. What is the scoop on

> this? I would really rather not start chelation, but I don't want to

> lose valuable time if it is really something I should be doing.

>

>

> molly

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

>

>

>

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Grammy Bauer posted this in a past discussion on Pecanbread " Elaine discusses

detoxification " .

A searchable list where Elaine Gottschall participated

How to use the search engine:

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You may save the URL in your computer's favorites file

I guess from our own experience, where we had massive poisonning of lead,

cadmium, aluminum, tin, arsenic, etc. Massive in that the EPA and health

department had to monitor it, and adding to the mix some early vaccinations, we

have been able to detox over time with SCD safely. However, it is not a simple

answer. While healing, keeping as little toxins in the environment will speed

progress, and taking research into your own hands. Alkaline, purified spring

water and trace mineral supplementation cannot be overlooked. Quality foods,

pastured animals that have the correct ration of omega 3 to 6, and are healthy

receiving the exercise and sun and fresh air they need so their own livers work

at detoxifying their blood properly, is all part and parcel the mix of SCD for

us. Basically, SCD with the very best sources of food possible. Are you taking

enzymes? I would attempt enzymes before jumping to any other therapy.

Good luck to you!

Summer, SCD 18 months

ccka2001 sacred65@...> wrote:

My son is doing so well on the SCD. He has mad incredible gains which

I mainly attribute to the diet. He does also take CLO, a

multi-vitamin, and a probiotic which I think have helped as well.

But, now our DAN! is suggesting we chelate. She believes it will take

my son over the final hump. I believe I read somewhere that as the

gut heals the body is able to detox on its own. What is the scoop on

this? I would really rather not start chelation, but I don't want to

lose valuable time if it is really something I should be doing.

molly

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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Grammy Bauer posted this in a past discussion on Pecanbread " Elaine discusses

detoxification " .

A searchable list where Elaine Gottschall participated

How to use the search engine:

**http://lyris.dundee.net/read/search/advanced?forum=elaineschildren

TYPE IN SEARCH AND THEN CLICK ON ALL

You may save the URL in your computer's favorites file

I guess from our own experience, where we had massive poisonning of lead,

cadmium, aluminum, tin, arsenic, etc. Massive in that the EPA and health

department had to monitor it, and adding to the mix some early vaccinations, we

have been able to detox over time with SCD safely. However, it is not a simple

answer. While healing, keeping as little toxins in the environment will speed

progress, and taking research into your own hands. Alkaline, purified spring

water and trace mineral supplementation cannot be overlooked. Quality foods,

pastured animals that have the correct ration of omega 3 to 6, and are healthy

receiving the exercise and sun and fresh air they need so their own livers work

at detoxifying their blood properly, is all part and parcel the mix of SCD for

us. Basically, SCD with the very best sources of food possible. Are you taking

enzymes? I would attempt enzymes before jumping to any other therapy.

Good luck to you!

Summer, SCD 18 months

ccka2001 sacred65@...> wrote:

My son is doing so well on the SCD. He has mad incredible gains which

I mainly attribute to the diet. He does also take CLO, a

multi-vitamin, and a probiotic which I think have helped as well.

But, now our DAN! is suggesting we chelate. She believes it will take

my son over the final hump. I believe I read somewhere that as the

gut heals the body is able to detox on its own. What is the scoop on

this? I would really rather not start chelation, but I don't want to

lose valuable time if it is really something I should be doing.

molly

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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Grammy Bauer posted this in a past discussion on Pecanbread " Elaine discusses

detoxification " .

A searchable list where Elaine Gottschall participated

How to use the search engine:

**http://lyris.dundee.net/read/search/advanced?forum=elaineschildren

TYPE IN SEARCH AND THEN CLICK ON ALL

You may save the URL in your computer's favorites file

I guess from our own experience, where we had massive poisonning of lead,

cadmium, aluminum, tin, arsenic, etc. Massive in that the EPA and health

department had to monitor it, and adding to the mix some early vaccinations, we

have been able to detox over time with SCD safely. However, it is not a simple

answer. While healing, keeping as little toxins in the environment will speed

progress, and taking research into your own hands. Alkaline, purified spring

water and trace mineral supplementation cannot be overlooked. Quality foods,

pastured animals that have the correct ration of omega 3 to 6, and are healthy

receiving the exercise and sun and fresh air they need so their own livers work

at detoxifying their blood properly, is all part and parcel the mix of SCD for

us. Basically, SCD with the very best sources of food possible. Are you taking

enzymes? I would attempt enzymes before jumping to any other therapy.

Good luck to you!

Summer, SCD 18 months

ccka2001 sacred65@...> wrote:

My son is doing so well on the SCD. He has mad incredible gains which

I mainly attribute to the diet. He does also take CLO, a

multi-vitamin, and a probiotic which I think have helped as well.

But, now our DAN! is suggesting we chelate. She believes it will take

my son over the final hump. I believe I read somewhere that as the

gut heals the body is able to detox on its own. What is the scoop on

this? I would really rather not start chelation, but I don't want to

lose valuable time if it is really something I should be doing.

molly

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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Re: Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation?

> Elaine Gottschall Discusses Detoxification

> > >

> > > Elaine:

> > >

> > > " I have said again and again on this list, that levels of things like

> > > mercury, etc. will go out of whack if a person or child is not

absorbing

> > > nutrients because of bowel problems. "

> > >

> > > :

> > >

> > > Let's say a person does not have excessive metals...they are

fine...then

> > > they incur poor gut health, colon problems, malabsorbtion. How do the

> > > metals accummulate then? Are you saying that the bowel problems lead

to

> > > malnutrition so the body cannot detox properly and THAT creates the

> > > metals build-up??? This is very interesting for sure.

> > >

> > > I take you feel that fixing the bowel problem and dysbiosis first will

> > > restore proper nutrition and then the body would return to natural

> > > functional detox and that will reduce the excessive metals in the

body?

> > > Sounds reasonable. Is this correct? Some people would certainly like

an

> > > alternative to straight chelation... believe, the entire issues of

> > > 'chelation' if swimming in controversy, disagreement, hard feelings,

> > > anxiety, and a bunch of unhappy campers.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Elaine:

> > >

> > > Thanks so much for pursuing this. This explanation is not way out; it

> > > is basic biochemistry and physiology. It is accepted by many clinicans

> > > who understand the detoxification systems of the body, but as I have

> > > said, they are not trained sufficiently in biochemistry to apply these

> > > sytems to diet.

> > >

> > > A simple example of what I am talking about has to do with

> detoxification

> > > by the P-450 system of the liver. Many fat soluble compounds which are

> > > injurious to the body (fats/lipids in drugs, pesticides and herbicides

> > > which are fat soluble compounds, and heavy metals among which are

> mercury

> > > and lead, etc. etc. etc.) enter the body and were it not for the P-450

> > > detox system, they would remain and accumulate. The P-450 system is

> > > equipped to make them WATER SOLUBLE through the action of glutathione

> > > (and I have not studied the biochemistry of this compound for a long

> > > time) and when they are water-soluble, they enter the bloodstream and

> are

> > > eliminated via the urine.

> > >

> > > The action of enzymes which require the transfer of electrons is

> > > facilitated by Vitamin C. In fact, these enzymes of the P450 system

> > > cannot work without sufficient Vitamin C in the diet. Therefore, when

we

> > > have overgrowth of microbes (bacteria and yeast) in the gut, when we

> have

> > > increased permeability because of them, when we do not absorb even the

> > > tiny amounts of nutrients in the high SAD (typical No. American diet

and

> > > also the GF/CF diet with rice, corn, gluten free wheat, etc.)) we do

not

> > > detoxify properly.

> > >

> > > Because SCD aids in returning the gut to health, we slowly should

> > > correct all this.

> > >

> > > Elaine

> > >

>

>

>

>

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Re: Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation?

> Elaine Gottschall Discusses Detoxification

> > >

> > > Elaine:

> > >

> > > " I have said again and again on this list, that levels of things like

> > > mercury, etc. will go out of whack if a person or child is not

absorbing

> > > nutrients because of bowel problems. "

> > >

> > > :

> > >

> > > Let's say a person does not have excessive metals...they are

fine...then

> > > they incur poor gut health, colon problems, malabsorbtion. How do the

> > > metals accummulate then? Are you saying that the bowel problems lead

to

> > > malnutrition so the body cannot detox properly and THAT creates the

> > > metals build-up??? This is very interesting for sure.

> > >

> > > I take you feel that fixing the bowel problem and dysbiosis first will

> > > restore proper nutrition and then the body would return to natural

> > > functional detox and that will reduce the excessive metals in the

body?

> > > Sounds reasonable. Is this correct? Some people would certainly like

an

> > > alternative to straight chelation... believe, the entire issues of

> > > 'chelation' if swimming in controversy, disagreement, hard feelings,

> > > anxiety, and a bunch of unhappy campers.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Elaine:

> > >

> > > Thanks so much for pursuing this. This explanation is not way out; it

> > > is basic biochemistry and physiology. It is accepted by many clinicans

> > > who understand the detoxification systems of the body, but as I have

> > > said, they are not trained sufficiently in biochemistry to apply these

> > > sytems to diet.

> > >

> > > A simple example of what I am talking about has to do with

> detoxification

> > > by the P-450 system of the liver. Many fat soluble compounds which are

> > > injurious to the body (fats/lipids in drugs, pesticides and herbicides

> > > which are fat soluble compounds, and heavy metals among which are

> mercury

> > > and lead, etc. etc. etc.) enter the body and were it not for the P-450

> > > detox system, they would remain and accumulate. The P-450 system is

> > > equipped to make them WATER SOLUBLE through the action of glutathione

> > > (and I have not studied the biochemistry of this compound for a long

> > > time) and when they are water-soluble, they enter the bloodstream and

> are

> > > eliminated via the urine.

> > >

> > > The action of enzymes which require the transfer of electrons is

> > > facilitated by Vitamin C. In fact, these enzymes of the P450 system

> > > cannot work without sufficient Vitamin C in the diet. Therefore, when

we

> > > have overgrowth of microbes (bacteria and yeast) in the gut, when we

> have

> > > increased permeability because of them, when we do not absorb even the

> > > tiny amounts of nutrients in the high SAD (typical No. American diet

and

> > > also the GF/CF diet with rice, corn, gluten free wheat, etc.)) we do

not

> > > detoxify properly.

> > >

> > > Because SCD aids in returning the gut to health, we slowly should

> > > correct all this.

> > >

> > > Elaine

> > >

>

>

>

>

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Re: Detox w/diet only? Or add chelation?

> Elaine Gottschall Discusses Detoxification

> > >

> > > Elaine:

> > >

> > > " I have said again and again on this list, that levels of things like

> > > mercury, etc. will go out of whack if a person or child is not

absorbing

> > > nutrients because of bowel problems. "

> > >

> > > :

> > >

> > > Let's say a person does not have excessive metals...they are

fine...then

> > > they incur poor gut health, colon problems, malabsorbtion. How do the

> > > metals accummulate then? Are you saying that the bowel problems lead

to

> > > malnutrition so the body cannot detox properly and THAT creates the

> > > metals build-up??? This is very interesting for sure.

> > >

> > > I take you feel that fixing the bowel problem and dysbiosis first will

> > > restore proper nutrition and then the body would return to natural

> > > functional detox and that will reduce the excessive metals in the

body?

> > > Sounds reasonable. Is this correct? Some people would certainly like

an

> > > alternative to straight chelation... believe, the entire issues of

> > > 'chelation' if swimming in controversy, disagreement, hard feelings,

> > > anxiety, and a bunch of unhappy campers.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Elaine:

> > >

> > > Thanks so much for pursuing this. This explanation is not way out; it

> > > is basic biochemistry and physiology. It is accepted by many clinicans

> > > who understand the detoxification systems of the body, but as I have

> > > said, they are not trained sufficiently in biochemistry to apply these

> > > sytems to diet.

> > >

> > > A simple example of what I am talking about has to do with

> detoxification

> > > by the P-450 system of the liver. Many fat soluble compounds which are

> > > injurious to the body (fats/lipids in drugs, pesticides and herbicides

> > > which are fat soluble compounds, and heavy metals among which are

> mercury

> > > and lead, etc. etc. etc.) enter the body and were it not for the P-450

> > > detox system, they would remain and accumulate. The P-450 system is

> > > equipped to make them WATER SOLUBLE through the action of glutathione

> > > (and I have not studied the biochemistry of this compound for a long

> > > time) and when they are water-soluble, they enter the bloodstream and

> are

> > > eliminated via the urine.

> > >

> > > The action of enzymes which require the transfer of electrons is

> > > facilitated by Vitamin C. In fact, these enzymes of the P450 system

> > > cannot work without sufficient Vitamin C in the diet. Therefore, when

we

> > > have overgrowth of microbes (bacteria and yeast) in the gut, when we

> have

> > > increased permeability because of them, when we do not absorb even the

> > > tiny amounts of nutrients in the high SAD (typical No. American diet

and

> > > also the GF/CF diet with rice, corn, gluten free wheat, etc.)) we do

not

> > > detoxify properly.

> > >

> > > Because SCD aids in returning the gut to health, we slowly should

> > > correct all this.

> > >

> > > Elaine

> > >

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Out of curiousity . . . does anyone know if SCD can " pull " metals that

have crossed the blood/brain barrier? The chelator Elle is on, dmsa,

is unable to reach the metals in this area. I am hoping you will tell

me that SCD can do it because the one I know that can reach metals

there is ALA (which is a huge problem for yeast, and I would like to

avoid it).

By the way, to keep everyone posted. You can continue to celebrate

with us. Elle is passing bowels on her own with more frequency and

they are formed with good color and no undigested stool. We are

thrilled with her progress and are hoping this pattern continues.

Jeni Lynn

SCD 2 weeks

mom to Elle, 17 mo. (leaky gut, eczema, heavy metal toxicity)

SCD 3 months

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